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"Should he be sacked as Prime Minister? Thought I'd get in first "He should not be allowed to be PM until he has set out his programme for the future. "I'm Not Sir Kier Starmer" is not a programme. | |||
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"He should not be allowed to be PM until he has set out his programme for the future. "I'm Not Sir Kier Starmer" is not a programme." I agree it's not what we'd normally accept as a programme, but I think it's all that he's going to need. | |||
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"Let's just get AI to rule us all as soon as possible "I saw a documentary about that once. The AI tried to kill everyone and a robot was sent to the past to kill the creator of it. | |||
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"Well he could just say he will follow the Labour manifesto as that would be a hugh change from Keir Starmer, who seems to he trying to read from a mix of the Conservative and Reform ones." Most of what Starmer does are actually part of his manifesto. | |||
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"Andy Burnham "lay out a new path for Britain" Keir Starmer "will stand" in any leadership contest Streeting ‘I want the best candidates’ Should be a good spat coming. Labour will self destruct with defections and policy objectives. " No that is the Conservative party who ruined the economy and suffered many defections to another bunch of racist and anti everything party. You just seem to have muddled them up | |||
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"Personally.. I think all this Andy Burnham stuff is a load of shite! He's not the Messiah!. He's a very naughty boy ! On a serious note : why is he spoken about like he's the best thing since sliced bread?! I see him as another know it all just like starmer.. another disappointment in the future" A better communicator than Starmer imo. On the global stage - inadequate On policy - full of ideas - probably some good ones - all undeliverable We are £3trn in debt, 750k youth unemployed, economy flat, 1.3m on social housing waiting lists, 7 million on nhs waiting lists, 37% uk overweight, a generation owing £300bn student loans, reliant on imports and all Labour have is ‘oh we inherited’ | |||
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"Personally.. I think all this Andy Burnham stuff is a load of shite! He's not the Messiah!. He's a very naughty boy ! On a serious note : why is he spoken about like he's the best thing since sliced bread?! I see him as another know it all just like starmer.. another disappointment in the future" Talk of Sir Keir Starmer fighting is fading, his exit seems more likely as the weekend goes on. The prime minister is at his country retreat, Chequers, spending time with his wife. The man coming for his job, Andy Burnham, is spending the weekend with his family, away from home too. Champagne socialists. Out for themselves. Has Burnham ordered his new suit from Lord Alli | |||
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"Personally.. I think all this Andy Burnham stuff is a load of shite! He's not the Messiah!. He's a very naughty boy ! On a serious note : why is he spoken about like he's the best thing since sliced bread?! I see him as another know it all just like starmer.. another disappointment in the future Talk of Sir Keir Starmer fighting is fading, his exit seems more likely as the weekend goes on. The prime minister is at his country retreat, Chequers, spending time with his wife. The man coming for his job, Andy Burnham, is spending the weekend with his family, away from home too. Champagne socialists. Out for themselves. Has Burnham ordered his new suit from Lord Alli " Spending the weekend with your family is champagne socialism? No wonder so many right wing men want to spend time with each other shouting at foreigners. | |||
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"If anyone knows what Andy stands for would they put their hand up. He's self serving. I live in Manchester and he's done bugger all for my area. He was on the staff of Jeremy Corbyn in his early days. Wonder was he in the room when Jeremy announced he was going to Belfast to share a platform with Adams and McGuinness?. Andy is like that shite you can never flush away. My opinion. Others will be different. " It’s amazing how these shit mayors who ruin cities, and never do anything good, keep getting reelected. See also: Sadiq Khan. | |||
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"Andy was a Mayor. Has little experience and to the left. He would be UNELECTED. Your getting double the trouble with him. Not all Manchester folk think he's done a good job either." Can see him at the G7 chatting shit, nor Miliband as chancellor ffs carbon taxes on steroids. I blame the tories for all this, the only reason we got labour was because of them | |||
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"Does it really matter who's PM ? It's the party that make the decisions Starmer had some good plans but all shot down " Not sure that’s the case; all those u turns decided by the party? | |||
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"Andy was a Mayor. Has little experience and to the left. He would be UNELECTED. Your getting double the trouble with him. Not all Manchester folk think he's done a good job either." He's literally just been elected and if he becomes leader of Labour, it would be in an election. | |||
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"Country needs a total reset - F-ck career politicians .... not literally unless you fancy Heidi Alexander - no doubt some on here would ! Absolute joke - no respect for any of them . And in other news .... " So who would you choose? | |||
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"Now that is the question - like picking a new manager for your football team . I have my thoughts - and it does not include the usual suspects ." But in picking the new manager for your football team, the field is comprised entirely of footballers and football managers. | |||
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"Exactly We have no politicians of any status . All about the money and not serving the Country ." So, again I ask, who would you have? | |||
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"Let's just get AI to rule us all as soon as possible "Careful what you wish for! Has anyone seen what the scouse oracle has been vlogging about? Seriously eye opening and worrisome... | |||
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"If anyone knows what Andy stands for would they put their hand up. He's self serving. I live in Manchester and he's done bugger all for my area. He was on the staff of Jeremy Corbyn in his early days. Wonder was he in the room when Jeremy announced he was going to Belfast to share a platform with Adams and McGuinness?. Andy is like that shite you can never flush away. My opinion. Others will be different. " Tbh I am concerned! I don't think people are thinking properly and being carried along with a kind of euphoria about him. I'm not happy at all and I think he'll finish off this country. His policies are vague to me. Perhaps when there's a contest then he'll be more clearer but I've s very bad feeling about all of this | |||
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"Should he be sacked as Prime Minister? Thought I'd get in first "An-dy Burn-ham’s a wan-ker…  | |||
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" His policies are vague to me. Perhaps when there's a contest then he'll be more clearer but I've s very bad feeling about all of this " It’s a race to the bottom New Labour and Tories have got us £3trn in debt the interest costing more than half the nhs budget. We only got this Labour govt as the tories were so bad, and Labours 14 years in preparation has now fully ended in tatters. But we can all hope Burnham will save himself first, then Labour, then the country, with more taxes on working people to pay the ever increasing benefits bill. Pensioners will be ok, young people shafted with university debt, the economy has been globalised for low wages, and housing costs are iro nine times average pay. No unpicking this in a hurry. | |||
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" His policies are vague to me. Perhaps when there's a contest then he'll be more clearer but I've s very bad feeling about all of this It’s a race to the bottom New Labour and Tories have got us £3trn in debt the interest costing more than half the nhs budget. We only got this Labour govt as the tories were so bad, and Labours 14 years in preparation has now fully ended in tatters. But we can all hope Burnham will save himself first, then Labour, then the country, with more taxes on working people to pay the ever increasing benefits bill. Pensioners will be ok, young people shafted with university debt, the economy has been globalised for low wages, and housing costs are iro nine times average pay. No unpicking this in a hurry. " Is it time to talk about pensions, are they affordable in this economic climate? Money for pensioners accounts for over 50% of the welfare bill. Can we afford to keep giving them rises that outstrip wage increases? | |||
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" His policies are vague to me. Perhaps when there's a contest then he'll be more clearer but I've s very bad feeling about all of this It’s a race to the bottom New Labour and Tories have got us £3trn in debt the interest costing more than half the nhs budget. We only got this Labour govt as the tories were so bad, and Labours 14 years in preparation has now fully ended in tatters. But we can all hope Burnham will save himself first, then Labour, then the country, with more taxes on working people to pay the ever increasing benefits bill. Pensioners will be ok, young people shafted with university debt, the economy has been globalised for low wages, and housing costs are iro nine times average pay. No unpicking this in a hurry. Is it time to talk about pensions, are they affordable in this economic climate? Money for pensioners accounts for over 50% of the welfare bill. Can we afford to keep giving them rises that outstrip wage increases?" 70% are homeowners, they are not skint. Country has sold off half social housing stock so now there’s a £25bn annual housing benefit cost. No one to blame for this but Tory and new Labour who didn’t stop it As for the nhs a quarter of the budget is spent on obesity, smoking, drug and alcoholism treatments, we really can’t help ourselves. Young people have been failed, crumbling schools, budget cuts, university fee increases and loan interest rates. Student housing is now its own asset class, landlords range rovers paid by student interest bearing loans. Job prospects not great, the 770,000 youth unemployed are not all shirkers? | |||
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"Andy was a Mayor. Has little experience and to the left. He would be UNELECTED. Your getting double the trouble with him. Not all Manchester folk think he's done a good job either." He's been the Chief Secretary to the Treasury (basically deputy Chancellor), Culture Secretary, Health Secretary, Shadow Education Secretary and Shadow Home Secretary as well as Mayor of Greater Manchester. He's got about as much experience as anyone who has ever become Prime Minister. | |||
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"Should he be sacked as Prime Minister? Thought I'd get in first "2 years is my estimate. That's just based on the last 7 in 10 years! | |||
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" His policies are vague to me. Perhaps when there's a contest then he'll be more clearer but I've s very bad feeling about all of this It’s a race to the bottom New Labour and Tories have got us £3trn in debt the interest costing more than half the nhs budget. We only got this Labour govt as the tories were so bad, and Labours 14 years in preparation has now fully ended in tatters. But we can all hope Burnham will save himself first, then Labour, then the country, with more taxes on working people to pay the ever increasing benefits bill. Pensioners will be ok, young people shafted with university debt, the economy has been globalised for low wages, and housing costs are iro nine times average pay. No unpicking this in a hurry. Is it time to talk about pensions, are they affordable in this economic climate? Money for pensioners accounts for over 50% of the welfare bill. Can we afford to keep giving them rises that outstrip wage increases?" No, it's about time we spoke about those with a career sponging on the dole who retire on a full pension. Scum need reigning in along with those scamming the disability benefits. | |||
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"Should he be sacked as Prime Minister? Thought I'd get in first
2 years is my estimate. That's just based on the last 7 in 10 years!"With their reported council tax grab on people’s homes, he won’t just be out of a job, he will hand Reform the keys to number 10, Downing Street. They are also going to lose a lot of investors when they implement their isa tax grab, although that is being implemented by his predecessors but I doubt that he’ll repeal it. So when all the taxpayers and investors move abroad, who’s going to pay labours welfare bill? | |||
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"Should he be sacked as Prime Minister? Thought I'd get in first
2 years is my estimate. That's just based on the last 7 in 10 years!
With their reported council tax grab on people’s homes, he won’t just be out of a job, he will hand Reform the keys to number 10, Downing Street.
They are also going to lose a lot of investors when they implement their isa tax grab, although that is being implemented by his predecessors but I doubt that he’ll repeal it.
So when all the taxpayers and investors move abroad, who’s going to pay labours welfare bill?
"When the tax takers* outnumber the tax payers things are going to get very difficult. This government with its appetite for high tax/borrow/spend will very soon see a perfect demonstration of the "Laffer Curve". *Tax takers are not only people on benefits pensions Etc. Everyone who works in the public sector is a tax taker. They are paid from taxation and while they can say they also pay tax, it isn't quite true. It's just mathematical gymnastics. We'll give you this but you have to give us that back. While many public sector jobs are essential the whole sector is is overgrown and bloated. Why on earth does the cabinet office need 11,000 civil servants for example? British governments have for decades spent more than the country can afford and those buffers are looking very close and awfully big. Time to buckle up folks. | |||
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"Should he be sacked as Prime Minister? Thought I'd get in first
2 years is my estimate. That's just based on the last 7 in 10 years!
With their reported council tax grab on people’s homes, he won’t just be out of a job, he will hand Reform the keys to number 10, Downing Street.
They are also going to lose a lot of investors when they implement their isa tax grab, although that is being implemented by his predecessors but I doubt that he’ll repeal it.
So when all the taxpayers and investors move abroad, who’s going to pay labours welfare bill?
When the tax takers* outnumber the tax payers things are going to get very difficult. This government with its appetite for high tax/borrow/spend will very soon see a perfect demonstration of the "Laffer Curve".
*Tax takers are not only people on benefits pensions Etc. Everyone who works in the public sector is a tax taker.
They are paid from taxation and while they can say they also pay tax, it isn't quite true. It's just mathematical gymnastics. We'll give you this but you have to give us that back.
While many public sector jobs are essential the whole sector is is overgrown and bloated. Why on earth does the cabinet office need 11,000 civil servants for example?
British governments have for decades spent more than the country can afford and those buffers are looking very close and awfully big. Time to buckle up folks."I think it rather depends on what they do. ‘The Cabinet Office’ sounds like they are all working on processes directly relating to activities around cabinet ministers, I suspect this is not the case. | |||
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" While many public sector jobs are essential the whole sector is is overgrown and bloated. Why on earth does the cabinet office need 11,000 civil servants for example? " And yet everyone will complain that we don't have enough resources. Just a symptom of how much unnecessary bureaucracy has been added over the years. We do have resources. They are all working on the wrong things. | |||
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"The man’s a joke even before he’s started. People often accuse MPs in the south of being to London centric, probably with just cause. He’s being given the job as PM because he’s from the north and that somehow makes him qualified. Stop the chaos. The adults are back in the room. "King in the North! | |||
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"The man’s a joke even before he’s started. People often accuse MPs in the south of being to London centric, probably with just cause. He’s being given the job as PM because he’s from the north and that somehow makes him qualified. Stop the chaos. The adults are back in the room. "Depends on your definition of the "north". A geordie would probably class him as a southern softy while anyone north of Golders Green is a northerner to others. | |||
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"No10 North... I guess he doesn't want to travel.. " Key takeaways University aspiration not working - focus on apprenticeships Overpriced private rented housing - rent controls coming No info on immigration or tax rises - expect more of both | |||
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"Now I have listened to his plans, this whole affair is starting to resemble a political coup by left wing populists. No other challenger, a sitting MP gives up a safe seat, the PM crushed ready to walk without a challenge and ideas of creating a northern No 10 to coordinate efforts. I'm really not liking the shape of this at all. " Surely you mean left wing racists ?  | |||
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"University aspiration not working - focus on apprenticeships" I like that bit. Blair's insistence that vast numbers should go to university has been crippling this country with the huge cost of it all. Focusing on apprenticeships is the right decision for many young people, and it will save the country billions. | |||
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"University aspiration not working - focus on apprenticeships I like that bit. Blair's insistence that vast numbers should go to university has been crippling this country with the huge cost of it all. Focusing on apprenticeships is the right decision for many young people, and it will save the country billions." I liked that bit too. And for the same reasons What tho will be these apprenticeships, there are 770,000 neets already that have not taken one on. | |||
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"University aspiration not working - focus on apprenticeships" "I like that bit. Blair's insistence that vast numbers should go to university has been crippling this country with the huge cost of it all. Focusing on apprenticeships is the right decision for many young people, and it will save the country billions." "I liked that bit too. And for the same reasons What tho will be these apprenticeships, there are 770,000 neets already that have not taken one on." Right now there aren't many apprenticeships because there's not much demand. Young people are all told that they have to go to university to get a high paying job, so an apprenticeship looks like a loser's choice. If the government starts pushing apprenticeships, a lot more companies will start offering them, and the stigma will disappear. | |||
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