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By *ingdomNightTimePleasures OP   Man
3 weeks ago

nearby

Last years social housing delivery, after right to buy and demolitions was negative

House building is at a 12 year low

Today research from Shelter finds that more than 1,300,000 households are on a waiting list for a social home, but only 12,198 were built by councils, housing associations or private developers across England last year.

This equates to an average of 110 households waiting for every new social home delivered, and it would take 119 years to clear the waiting lists if building continued at the same rate.

Whats the solution?

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By *iman2100Man
3 weeks ago

Glasgow

There is no solution, accept it.

Lack of housing, social and private, pushes up property sale and rent prices. Developers and land bank holders want to maximise their income so they limit production. Existing owners do not want their properties to lose value and neither do the mortgage companies and bond holders.

Politicians, both Central and Local Government are supported by the contributions of the rich. Thus the Political parties have no interest in upsetting their financial backers. So, whilst the unthinking people continue to vote for popularist candidates who promise the impossible (e.g. stop immigration). Politicians only give lipservice to housing production.

Developers are usually obligated to build affordable housing when granted planning permission. They do not make a loss or cut their profits when they do so. They add the social housing discount to the cost of the saleable private housing. This makes the private housing more expensive which in turn pushes more people onto the list for affordable houses. So the LAs require more social housing. What comes around goes around.

So just accept it; they will never build enough houses. Q.E.D.

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By *ondon GentMan
3 weeks ago

london

It is criminal what they are proposing at Crews Hill Enfield -

There are enough brownfield sites and parts of inner cities that need regenerating .

Country needs a reset and soon - but unfortunatly there are zero leaders who command or deserve any respect .

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By *e-OptimistMan
3 weeks ago

Stalybridge

All politicians are only in it for themselves and their cronies. They will tell the plebs what they want to hear while carrying on with their own agendas regardless. People are too stupid to realise this and carry on supporting the corrupt system.

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
3 weeks ago

Hastings


"Last years social housing delivery, after right to buy and demolitions was negative

House building is at a 12 year low

Today research from Shelter finds that more than 1,300,000 households are on a waiting list for a social home, but only 12,198 were built by councils, housing associations or private developers across England last year.

This equates to an average of 110 households waiting for every new social home delivered, and it would take 119 years to clear the waiting lists if building continued at the same rate.

Whats the solution?"

To be fair having worked in social housing there are lots on lists due to over crowding, there are also lots of older singles still in family homes, when this happened under local councils, they would pay incentives to the old to free up a 3 bed family home.

Where social housing associations are not alowd to give pay this kind of incentives.

So there where empty properties in blocks of flats.

Over crowding in 2 bed properties.

And singles in 3 bed properties.

This dose not help the situation.

So sum people are wating for some onevto pass away to get a bigger property.

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By *ingdomNightTimePleasures OP   Man
3 weeks ago

nearby


"Last years social housing delivery, after right to buy and demolitions was negative

House building is at a 12 year low

Today research from Shelter finds that more than 1,300,000 households are on a waiting list for a social home, but only 12,198 were built by councils, housing associations or private developers across England last year.

This equates to an average of 110 households waiting for every new social home delivered, and it would take 119 years to clear the waiting lists if building continued at the same rate.

Whats the solution?

To be fair having worked in social housing there are lots on lists due to over crowding, there are also lots of older singles still in family homes, when this happened under local councils, they would pay incentives to the old to free up a 3 bed family home.

"

29.5% of households (all tenures) are sole occupancy. Roughly 10 million homes under occupied.

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By *ondon GentMan
3 weeks ago

london

And ?

People may have done this thing called WORK and not been given a hand out.

Simple - if thdy dont like it get back on the boat .

Ask yourself how would you be treated in pakistan etc ?

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By *ormalfornorfolkMan
3 weeks ago

Norwich


"There is no solution, accept it.

Lack of housing, social and private, pushes up property sale and rent prices. Developers and land bank holders want to maximise their income so they limit production. Existing owners do not want their properties to lose value and neither do the mortgage companies and bond holders.

Politicians, both Central and Local Government are supported by the contributions of the rich. Thus the Political parties have no interest in upsetting their financial backers. So, whilst the unthinking people continue to vote for popularist candidates who promise the impossible (e.g. stop immigration). Politicians only give lipservice to housing production.

Developers are usually obligated to build affordable housing when granted planning permission. They do not make a loss or cut their profits when they do so. They add the social housing discount to the cost of the saleable private housing. This makes the private housing more expensive which in turn pushes more people onto the list for affordable houses. So the LAs require more social housing. What comes around goes around.

So just accept it; they will never build enough houses. Q.E.D. "

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By *ingdomNightTimePleasures OP   Man
3 weeks ago

nearby


"And ?

People may have done this thing called WORK and not been given a hand out.

Simple - if thdy dont like it get back on the boat .

Ask yourself how would you be treated in pakistan etc ?

"

What has this got to do with migrants. They are largely housed in hotels and HMOs via profitable Clearsprings/ Serco contracts paid by the taxpayer.

Successive governments have sold off 2.1 million council homes at a discount, and now there are 1.3 million wanting one to get out of expensive private rentals. For those that can buy, prices average 8.5/9 times income on a 35/40 year mortgage with an average 50k deposit. Half of first time buyers enabled by bank of mum

and dad

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By *hrill CollinsMan
3 weeks ago

The Outer Rim


"Last years social housing delivery, after right to buy and demolitions was negative

House building is at a 12 year low

Today research from Shelter finds that more than 1,300,000 households are on a waiting list for a social home, but only 12,198 were built by councils, housing associations or private developers across England last year.

This equates to an average of 110 households waiting for every new social home delivered, and it would take 119 years to clear the waiting lists if building continued at the same rate.

Whats the solution?"

perhaps you tell us instead of posting garbage in/garbage out AI slop

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By *ondon GentMan
3 weeks ago

london

They should not be housed at all simple .

We need to get our own house in order .

Pity it is unlikely to happen - to hell in a handcart and all that .

Welcome to Britain - no longer Great .

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By *rHotNottsMan
3 weeks ago

Dubai & Nottingham

Shelter would say that. Organisations like them are constantly changing the definition of homeless as well , it now includes people who don't like where they live.

There's a simple solution, make it more expensive to live alone, other countries don't do it it's normal to have 2-3 generations per plot of land. We all demand our own home with loads of rooms

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By *ookingFor.....Man
3 weeks ago

Horsham/Crawley

More expensive to live alone?

How much more expensive?

Does the bedroom tax still exist?

Rachel Thieves made a lot of noise about scrapping it when in opposition.

Did she keep that promise?

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By *andomDickMan
3 weeks ago

Northern England


"Shelter would say that. Organisations like them are constantly changing the definition of homeless as well , it now includes people who don't like where they live.

There's a simple solution, make it more expensive to live alone, other countries don't do it it's normal to have 2-3 generations per plot of land. We all demand our own home with loads of rooms

"

"make it more expensive to live alone"

There is enough land out there to build houses or houses for sale, why should a person living alone have to accommodate anyone else, If I want to live in a 3-4 or even 10 bedroom house on my own I will, its my hard earned money I'll do what

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By *ornucopiaMan
3 weeks ago

Bexley

They wouldn't be needing to build so many council houses

If they hadn't sold so many off in the past.

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
3 weeks ago

ashford

Maggie shd never have introduced the right to buy! Thats why I never went for it when I could have got it really cheap back in the 80s at least when I pop my clogs mine will go back to housing stock!

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By *exyornotMan
3 weeks ago

halifax

silly woman then

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By *ornucopiaMan
3 weeks ago

Bexley


"silly woman then"

I've heard her (Maggie) called worse!

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By *lan157Man
2 weeks ago

a village near Haywards Heath in East Sussex


"They wouldn't be needing to build so many council houses

If they hadn't sold so many off in the past."

Where would the people who bought their council houses be living then ? I assume that they could not have done so had the discount not made it worthwhile.

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By *ornucopiaMan
2 weeks ago

Bexley


"They wouldn't be needing to build so many council houses

If they hadn't sold so many off in the past.

Where would the people who bought their council houses be living then ? I assume that they could not have done so had the discount not made it worthwhile. "

In their council houses or dead. In the latter case, the houses would have been freed up for reallocation, as many times as needed..

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By *TheBadBishopMan
2 weeks ago

Hertford

If we stopped letting in homeless people

An giving them homes

This problem wouldn't exist.

An property would be affordable for more ppl

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By *ornucopiaMan
2 weeks ago

Bexley


"If we stopped letting in homeless people

An giving them homes

This problem wouldn't exist.

An property would be affordable for more ppl"

Never mind the comparatively greater job the home grown community is doing to produce a social housing market!

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By *ornucopiaMan
2 weeks ago

Bexley

And should I add, has always done!

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By *TheBadBishopMan
2 weeks ago

Hertford

Most of social housing is gifted anyway.

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By *ingdomNightTimePleasures OP   Man
2 weeks ago

nearby


"If we stopped letting in homeless people

An giving them homes

This problem wouldn't exist.

An property would be affordable for more ppl"

They have contributed to but not caused the problem. Uk population was 56M in 1979 when right to buy was introduced. Since then over 2 million council houses have been sold and there are 15 million more people

The council house waiting list was 1.6M in 2010. The then Tory government used the localism

act to remove 137,000 and prevent some people being added. I don’t remember a migrant problem in the years building up to 2010.

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By *eroy1000Man
2 weeks ago

milton keynes


"They wouldn't be needing to build so many council houses

If they hadn't sold so many off in the past.

Where would the people who bought their council houses be living then ? I assume that they could not have done so had the discount not made it worthwhile.

In their council houses or dead. In the latter case, the houses would have been freed up for reallocation, as many times as needed.."

A privately owned ex council house doesn't disappear when the purchaser dies. I would imagine they are left to there family to provide housing to them. This then means the inheritors don't need to take up council houses or add to the waiting list. The ex council house is still doing its job of housing people

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By *ingdomNightTimePleasures OP   Man
2 weeks ago

nearby


"They wouldn't be needing to build so many council houses

If they hadn't sold so many off in the past.

Where would the people who bought their council houses be living then ? I assume that they could not have done so had the discount not made it worthwhile.

In their council houses or dead. In the latter case, the houses would have been freed up for reallocation, as many times as needed..

A privately owned ex council house doesn't disappear when the purchaser dies. I would imagine they are left to there family to provide housing to them. This then means the inheritors don't need to take up council houses or add to the waiting list. The ex council house is still doing its job of housing people "

I’d agree but there are significant issues at play. Being ignored by government while the chest beat the renter rights act

House building is at a 12 year low

Social housing delivery is negative ( after RTB and demolitions )

30% uk homes are sole occupancy households

An ageing population

Nimbyism, land, construction costs, biodiversity net gain contributions are pushing up house prices

Home ownership has reduced in last 20 odd years

There are now 3 million more rented households than 20 years ago

Anti private landlord tax policies are reducing available rental stock

Growing number of empty homes(ons 300k)

Because of rising house prices, more people are taking on more mortgage debt

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By *TheBadBishopMan
2 weeks ago

Hertford


"If we stopped letting in homeless people

An giving them homes

This problem wouldn't exist.

An property would be affordable for more ppl

They have contributed to but not caused the problem. Uk population was 56M in 1979 when right to buy was introduced. Since then over 2 million council houses have been sold and there are 15 million more people

The council house waiting list was 1.6M in 2010. The then Tory government used the localism

act to remove 137,000 and prevent some people being added. I don’t remember a migrant problem in the years building up to 2010. "

Ok one more maybe if we didn't have to pay for 1 million hotels for criminals

Before we gift them stuff

Maybe councils an govt would have more money.

But rarely its yhe council building.

An renting?

If its my house

Like any other business I should be able to do what I want with it.

Not have to be railroaded with new laws because of thier inaction.

Also

Mate

I grew up in London

People been steadily coming from all over as long as I remember.

An a lot really needed help.

An we provided help.

But so many are playing the system.

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By *eroy1000Man
2 weeks ago

milton keynes


"They wouldn't be needing to build so many council houses

If they hadn't sold so many off in the past.

Where would the people who bought their council houses be living then ? I assume that they could not have done so had the discount not made it worthwhile.

In their council houses or dead. In the latter case, the houses would have been freed up for reallocation, as many times as needed..

A privately owned ex council house doesn't disappear when the purchaser dies. I would imagine they are left to there family to provide housing to them. This then means the inheritors don't need to take up council houses or add to the waiting list. The ex council house is still doing its job of housing people

I’d agree but there are significant issues at play. Being ignored by government while the chest beat the renter rights act

House building is at a 12 year low

Social housing delivery is negative ( after RTB and demolitions )

30% uk homes are sole occupancy households

An ageing population

Nimbyism, land, construction costs, biodiversity net gain contributions are pushing up house prices

Home ownership has reduced in last 20 odd years

There are now 3 million more rented households than 20 years ago

Anti private landlord tax policies are reducing available rental stock

Growing number of empty homes(ons 300k)

Because of rising house prices, more people are taking on more mortgage debt "

My post is more about the house itself. Even if it's now owned by a person it doesn't disappear when the owner passes away. The person or persons that inherit it now don't need to add to the waiting list and take a council house. The main change is now the council don't get to dictate who lives in that house

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By *iman2100Man
2 weeks ago

Glasgow


"They should not be housed at all simple .

We need to get our own house in order .

Pity it is unlikely to happen - to hell in a handcart and all that .

Welcome to Britain - no longer Great . "

This is not about immigrants. Are you a Bot?

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By *iseekingbiCouple
2 weeks ago

N ireland and West Midlands


"They should not be housed at all simple .

We need to get our own house in order .

Pity it is unlikely to happen - to hell in a handcart and all that .

Welcome to Britain - no longer Great .

This is not about immigrants. Are you a Bot? "

A bot and blocked. Racist crap.

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By *ondon GentMan
2 weeks ago

london

Bothered ?

Two Tier will save you ...not .

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By *ondon GentMan
2 weeks ago

london

And how dare you call me rascist

I shall now report you .

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