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"‘The UK government has loosened strict sanctions on Russian oil refined into diesel and jet fuel in third countries as prices rise’ I wish they’d make their minds up. Principles, what principles? " Sort of….. you can call it a 3rd party decision They are not allowing direct sales as such, but they are allowing products processed using Russian oil So far example some Russian oil is refined in India so the Indians can sell jet fuel .. this would have been banned, but is now allowed.. so hopefully it will bring down that price, so airline fares and holidays shouldn’t rise as much, and there isn’t a reduction in supply Same thing for diesel….. | |||
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"I saw a post a few days ago showing new Mercedes in Moscow. " A lot of cars are sold via China and imported to Russia | |||
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"‘The UK government has loosened strict sanctions on Russian oil refined into diesel and jet fuel in third countries as prices rise’ I wish they’d make their minds up. Principles, what principles? Sort of….. you can call it a 3rd party decision They are not allowing direct sales as such, but they are allowing products processed using Russian oil So far example some Russian oil is refined in India so the Indians can sell jet fuel .. this would have been banned, but is now allowed.. so hopefully it will bring down that price, so airline fares and holidays shouldn’t rise as much, and there isn’t a reduction in supply Same thing for diesel….." So the Russians will now get to sell more oil to the third party countries who then punt it on for a profit as a reward for trading with Russia. I guess ultimately what it boils down to is this: when push comes to shove the interests of Israel trump those of Ukraine when it comes to western foreign policy. | |||
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"I saw a post a few days ago showing new Mercedes in Moscow. A lot of cars are sold via China and imported to Russia " Or st0len to order from Eastern Europe. | |||
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"‘The UK government has loosened strict sanctions on Russian oil refined into diesel and jet fuel in third countries as prices rise’ I wish they’d make their minds up. Principles, what principles? "  yep it's all a load of shite! I hope Russia refuses to sell it | |||
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"‘The UK government has loosened strict sanctions on Russian oil refined into diesel and jet fuel in third countries as prices rise’ I wish they’d make their minds up. Principles, what principles? " lol do you honestly believe anyone in parliment has principles,it was obvious when they first put sanctions in place as soon as it started affecting us they would be rolled back | |||
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"Starmer says we should drive around on Russian oil while Ukrainians bombed in their homes Where does this leave the 100 year partnership agreement he signed with Ukraine " 100 year partership ukraine will be lucky to exist as it is at the moment in another 5 years, | |||
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"So we need diesel and jet fuel but refuse to open up new fields in the North Sea in the name of "net zero". Then we buy diesel and jet fuel from India that has been refined from Russian oil. Does Russian/Indian diesel and jet fuel burn cleaner than from the North Sea? Or is it an admission that all this renewable bullshit is exactly that. Bullshit. And the fact that not drilling our own oil is driven by political dogma rather than the country's needs." The oil from new north sea drilling is unlikely to help with the Iranian war restrictions, due to timeframe and volumes. | |||
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"Ukrainian refugees in Uk will be delighted to see UK indirectly funding the bombing of their country " they can always go back and fight if it upsets them us buying russian oil | |||
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"Ukrainian refugees in Uk will be delighted to see UK indirectly funding the bombing of their country they can always go back and fight if it upsets them us buying russian oil" What the elderly and the kids. | |||
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"‘The UK government has loosened strict sanctions on Russian oil refined into diesel and jet fuel in third countries as prices rise’ I wish they’d make their minds up. Principles, what principles? " Sometimes you gotta deal with the devil. | |||
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"Just open up north sea oil production again and we wouldn't have to worry about all this bollocks. " North Sea oil and gas production is running, it's only new fields that are blocked and even if we find new oil and gas, it won't be available for another few years. | |||
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"Just open up north sea oil production again and we wouldn't have to worry about all this bollocks. " Most of the north sea oil was/is exported anyway | |||
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"Just open up north sea oil production again and we wouldn't have to worry about all this bollocks. North Sea oil and gas production is running, it's only new fields that are blocked and even if we find new oil and gas, it won't be available for another few years. " The same argument was made a few years ago and now we import from Norway who extract from the same area | |||
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"Just open up north sea oil production again and we wouldn't have to worry about all this bollocks. " If only life and oil was that simple.  | |||
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"So we need diesel and jet fuel but refuse to open up new fields in the North Sea in the name of "net zero". Then we buy diesel and jet fuel from India that has been refined from Russian oil. Does Russian/Indian diesel and jet fuel burn cleaner than from the North Sea? Or is it an admission that all this renewable bullshit is exactly that. Bullshit. And the fact that not drilling our own oil is driven by political dogma rather than the country's needs." A) you don’t just “open up” the taps… new fields would take years to come online… B) we don’t have to specialist facilities to refine it into jet fuel anyway! For example.. most of Europes jet fuel came/comes from Qatar, most of the us jet fuel actually comes from Korea… There are smaller facilities dotted but nothing that can replace what the big companies can supply… | |||
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"Russian oil is still pumped through Ukraine. Crude oil continues to flow into Central Europe via the Ukrainian section of the Druzhba pipeline, primarily supplying refineries in Slovakia and Hungary." Of course it is, why shouldn't it. It petrodollars in everyone's pot. Can let a little thing like war get in the way of profit, especially when everyone is getting a slice of the pie. | |||
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"So we need diesel and jet fuel but refuse to open up new fields in the North Sea in the name of "net zero". Then we buy diesel and jet fuel from India that has been refined from Russian oil. Does Russian/Indian diesel and jet fuel burn cleaner than from the North Sea? Or is it an admission that all this renewable bullshit is exactly that. Bullshit. And the fact that not drilling our own oil is driven by political dogma rather than the country's needs. A) you don’t just “open up” the taps… new fields would take years to come online… B) we don’t have to specialist facilities to refine it into jet fuel anyway! For example.. most of Europes jet fuel came/comes from Qatar, most of the us jet fuel actually comes from Korea… There are smaller facilities dotted but nothing that can replace what the big companies can supply… " Regardless of where the oil from the north sea is used, it is a benefit to the UK and should be realised just like Norway are doing. Ignoring the lead time or using it as an excuse not to start won't make that lead time go away | |||
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"So we need diesel and jet fuel but refuse to open up new fields in the North Sea in the name of "net zero". Then we buy diesel and jet fuel from India that has been refined from Russian oil. Does Russian/Indian diesel and jet fuel burn cleaner than from the North Sea? Or is it an admission that all this renewable bullshit is exactly that. Bullshit. And the fact that not drilling our own oil is driven by political dogma rather than the country's needs. A) you don’t just “open up” the taps… new fields would take years to come online… B) we don’t have to specialist facilities to refine it into jet fuel anyway! For example.. most of Europes jet fuel came/comes from Qatar, most of the us jet fuel actually comes from Korea… There are smaller facilities dotted but nothing that can replace what the big companies can supply… " Just sounds like more British Left “no can do” ism. Oddly Britain is the only country in the world that seemingly can’t take advantage of its natural resources to benefit its population. Miliband, Labour, and their supporters think this is a sign of them “leading the world”. Everyone else just think it’s a sign of abject idiocy. | |||
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"‘The UK government has loosened strict sanctions on Russian oil refined into diesel and jet fuel in third countries as prices rise’ I wish they’d make their minds up. Principles, what principles? " Your claim that sanctions have been loosened is factually incorrect. The opposite is actually the case. The UK government has brought in NEW sanctions banning the import of oil derived products sourced from Russian oil. Previously there were NO such sanctions and diesel, jet fuel and other products have been legally imported into the UK from India, Turkey and other refining countries under the country of origin rules. Basically these state that by refining Russian oil in, for example, India the Country of Origin changes to India and hence it's import is legal. Last week this was changed and all imports of Russian sourced oil is to be banned. The controversy is that Labour has enabled a transition period for the rest of this year allowing the continuing imports of diesel and jet fuel, whilst the EU implemented their ban in January 26. Labour makes the point that with the US/Israeli/Iran war, cutting off these diesel and jet fuel supplies now could cause significant disruption to UK travellers. I concur. I'm not surprised you didn't understand the facts, Badenoch doesn't as well and made a complete fool of herself the other day. | |||
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"Just open up north sea oil production again and we wouldn't have to worry about all this bollocks. North Sea oil and gas production is running, it's only new fields that are blocked and even if we find new oil and gas, it won't be available for another few years. " Nonsense, Rosebank, Cambo and Jackdaw are ready to produce right now. Ed Miliband and the greens have Starmer wrapped round their fingers. | |||
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"So we need diesel and jet fuel but refuse to open up new fields in the North Sea in the name of "net zero". Then we buy diesel and jet fuel from India that has been refined from Russian oil. Does Russian/Indian diesel and jet fuel burn cleaner than from the North Sea? Or is it an admission that all this renewable bullshit is exactly that. Bullshit. And the fact that not drilling our own oil is driven by political dogma rather than the country's needs. A) you don’t just “open up” the taps… new fields would take years to come online… B) we don’t have to specialist facilities to refine it into jet fuel anyway! For example.. most of Europes jet fuel came/comes from Qatar, most of the us jet fuel actually comes from Korea… There are smaller facilities dotted but nothing that can replace what the big companies can supply… " UTTER NONSENSE. A; ROSEBANK, CAMBO AND JACKDAW are ready to flow right now. . B;Key UK Jet Fuel Producing Refineries Pembroke Refinery (Wales): Produces gasoline, diesel, and jet fuel. Stanlow Manufacturing Complex (Cheshire): Produces a significant amount of jet fuel, supplying major airports like Manchester and Birmingham. Fawley Refinery (Hampshire): One of the UK's largest refineries, supplying fuel to major airports such as Heathrow, Gatwick, and Stansted. Humber Refinery (Lincolnshire): A key producer of refined products, including jet fuel. | |||
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