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By *ingdomNightTimePleasures OP   Man
1 week ago

nearby

Reported the UK population are spending fewer years in good health than a decade ago, prompting concern that the population’s health is “going backwards”.

A sharp decline in Britain’s healthy life expectancy, the amount of time someone spends free of illness or disability, is in sharp contrast to its recent rise in most other rich countries globally.

Two less healthy years for men, four less for women. Uk has highest obesity in Western Europe, which alone is forecast to cost the nhs more in years ahead.

Is this due to lifestyle choices, poor quality foods (possibly driven by poverty), or a rise in illnesses

Or is it fake news - The UK fitness industry is experiencing record growth, with over 12.2 million members (18% of the population) and a market value hitting £6.5 billion in 2026.

What policies can the state introduce to kerb the decline ?

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By *9alMan
1 week ago

Bridgend

its a complex situation, some of the easy gains have already been made but undoubtably access to HealthCare has become more difficult in recent years & access to fast food & alcohol has got easier

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By *arakiss12TV/TS
1 week ago

Bedfuck

Since I took early retirement to care for my mother and sister and after 24yrs working without illness bar a few colds

prior to retiring. I've had more ailments crop up effect me.

Already had bad back which I had the pain for 32yrs, hayfever, knee problem and thaelesemia. Now asthma, arthritis, diabetes, migraines, neuralgia, bladder infection and recent shoulder joint.

Still hanging in there though, slightly indestructible.

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By *arakiss12TV/TS
1 week ago

Bedfuck

And I'm not claiming any benefits.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
1 week ago

East Sussex

I suspect the likes of Just Eat etc have a lot to do with increasing obesity rates and poor health, poverty as you say, the fact that many people no longer walk anywhere, pollution and the nigh on impossibility of seeing a doctor quickly. I think I read somewhere that younger people are the first that might have shorter life expectancy than their parents.

I don't know what the state can do but I don't think amusing adverts about vegetables cut it, the sugar tax might I guess and isn't there a ban on advertising fast food until later in the evening?

I suppose education is the only way but when Jamie Oliver tried to change children's diets at school there were tales of angry parents handing burgers over the wall. 🤷‍♀️

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By *ellhungvweMan
1 week ago

Cheltenham

It is real. Our diet is poor and most people don’t exercise enough. People don’t want to hear that though.

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By *ostindreamsMan
1 week ago

London

I wonder how much of it is down to the impact of covid lockdown. Sitting at home and ordering fast food has become a norm for many since covid.

The problem with habits like this is that once you get into it, it's a downward spiral from there. You keep ordering unhealthy stuff just because it's convenient and your taste buds have gotten used to them. You need to consciously take steps to stop doing it and develop healthy habits and a vast majority don't manage to do that.

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By (user no longer on site)
1 week ago

One of the biggest problems today even with those who use gyms is counting calories and believing just because I look good means I’m healthy

People who can spend exuberant amounts of money in gym subscriptions that don’t deal with proper nutrition

Then you have those who can’t afford it and eat fast food or heavily processed food

Since the onset of large supermarket outlets and then fast food chains the UK populace has been fed overly processed crap.

It’s not the quantity of food you eat but the quality.

I personally eat fresh fruit and vegetables, I don’t eat red meat, however I do eat fish, chicken and eggs.

I also study Traditional Chinese Medicine as it takes a proper holistic view of our needs

When someone in the UK catches a common cold your GP will prescribe something that is universal. One cure fixes all.

However, we are all different, no two humans have the same constitutions. Therefore what fixes my cold doesn’t necessarily fix anyone else’s.

I stopped visiting my GP as I got fed up watching him grab his big medical journal or research Dr Google to find out what was actually wrong with me and this is something that is universal with everyone I talk to.

I have spent the last 20 years researching many other defects with the way the Western Healthcare “Professionals” work.

Anyway, diverging away here, as long as we blindly listen to our GP’s and other so called professionals and continue to stuff our faces with crap diets then the life expectancy number will continue to drop.

I am 65 and I am healthier, fitter and leaner now than I was 30 years ago.

I was into sports during my formative years, I played football at a high level, I competed in the Scottish National Championships in Athletics, Boxing, Cross Country, Road Running and Swimming. I have been practicing martial arts since aged 6.

I retired from active sports when I tore my ACL at 32 and my weight and fitness spiralled. Now, at 65 I’m healthier than I was before.

Simply by cutting out processed food, red meat, sugary drinks, cakes, etc. I have never smoked and I don’t touch alcohol.

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By *eandRaCouple
1 week ago

Pontypridd

One of the biggest drivers is literally the car. People will drive distances like a mile, which is pathetic. They don't carry shopping home from the shops, even the shops have automated doors. Lots of other factors obviously. But our grandparents didn't have great diets, they did move more and in better ways than we all do.

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By *e-OptimistMan
1 week ago

Stalybridge

Apparently Britons had a more healthy diet during WW2. Time to reintroduce rationing (rickets optional)?

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By *exy_HornyCouple
1 week ago

Leigh


"One of the biggest drivers is literally the car. People will drive distances like a mile, which is pathetic. They don't carry shopping home from the shops, even the shops have automated doors. Lots of other factors obviously. But our grandparents didn't have great diets, they did move more and in better ways than we all do. "

This is exactly correct. There was a program called something like the 70s diet on tv a while ago.

The conclusion was that the diet wasn’t much better , but that people moved a lot more. Daily life required more physical effort.

Remembering back to when we grew up, everyone was more physically active. Few people were fat. Even things like driving were more physical as cars didn’t have power steering etc.

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By (user no longer on site)
1 week ago

We didn’t have American fast food chains

We didn’t have microwaves

We didn’t have pre-packed processed dinners

We didn’t have large supermarket chains

There wasn’t as many cars on the roads

There wasn’t as many TV channels serving up so much crap

Kids didn’t have electronic games machines to fry their brains

We spent more times outdoors breathing in fresh air and exercise

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By *ecadentDeviantsCouple
1 week ago

North West

Ironically, longevity/increasing life expectancy, frequently touted as being as sign of human progress, has created its own problems.

There’s a large elderly population out there that’s getting larger with not enough young guns to support them.

Looking at things objectively & dispassionately, it could have been more beneficial for the country when people died younger than they do now…

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By *winga2Man
1 week ago

Stranraer

Damn I opened the thread thinking Trump was on his last breath ..

Ah well

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By *ornucopiaMan
1 week ago

Bexley

One,of the unhealthiest places to live is central Obi city..

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By *ornucopiaMan
1 week ago

Bexley


"One of the biggest drivers is literally the car. People will drive distances like a mile, which is pathetic. They don't carry shopping home from the shops, even the shops have automated doors. Lots of other factors obviously. But our grandparents didn't have great diets, they did move more and in better ways than we all do. "

Nothing pathetic about driving a mile when it is pissing down with rain. It can rain quite a few times a year in this god forsaken climate.

Just be thankful for the convenience of a car and don't speed.

It's a lot easier than walking (where you have to repeatedly have to move one foot in front of the other and don't get free rides downhill).

Oh,and forget bikes. They are grim in the rain and wind. All right for pedalling indoors for some exercise.

Mine charges a leisure battery instead of wasting it all on brake friction.

If I had any kids I was aware of, the telly etc. would only be powered from that bike and battery and they would learn that results come from effort!

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
Forum Mod
1 week ago

Central

It's a complex situation, probably without a single cause. The USA and the UK have both been highlighted as deteriorating this way and I assume that there are some connections.

Income disparities between those at the top and general populations in both countries have dramatically expanded and I sense that such measures signal some of the degradation in quality of life that contributes.

When foundational qualities degrade, it should be no surprise that there are major impacts.

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By *ostindreamsMan
1 week ago

London


"It's a complex situation, probably without a single cause. The USA and the UK have both been highlighted as deteriorating this way and I assume that there are some connections.

Income disparities between those at the top and general populations in both countries have dramatically expanded and I sense that such measures signal some of the degradation in quality of life that contributes.

When foundational qualities degrade, it should be no surprise that there are major impacts. "

If we are going by Gini coefficient, the US has much higher income disparities compared to the UK. UK's Gini coefficients are almost the same as Germany, Switzerland and France. Sweden and Canada are only slightly worse off.

It's just that lifestyles in these countries are different.

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