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"Surely the question as an outsider is do you feel the flag is valued and not tainted by far right fascists who have abused it. Because for me it's a symbol of hate the way the confederate flag is. But that's as someone not English. If comfortable, then fly a little flag and enjoy the day. Don't push the rules and get up to whatever traditions you do on the day. And don't forget to moan it's not a bank holiday lol. Alot of rules I feel are built on the intimidation flags can give off. " That’s how I feel about Wales. I used to go regularly a few times a year but nowadays it just feels like a hostile environment for English people, so I don’t go, and spend my money elsewhere. | |||
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"Surely the question as an outsider is do you feel the flag is valued and not tainted by far right fascists who have abused it. Because for me it's a symbol of hate the way the confederate flag is. But that's as someone not English. If comfortable, then fly a little flag and enjoy the day. Don't push the rules and get up to whatever traditions you do on the day. And don't forget to moan it's not a bank holiday lol. Alot of rules I feel are built on the intimidation flags can give off. " a bit like the scottish flag for the nationalists or is it only the english who cant be nationalists | |||
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""Symbol of hate" - some bloody funny people on here ." Guessing you're fine with it cable tied half way up a lamp post then. I feel no need to aggressively assert my patriotism by putting a flag up anywhere, I'm secure in my nationality. | |||
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""Symbol of hate" - some bloody funny people on here . Guessing you're fine with it cable tied half way up a lamp post then. I feel no need to aggressively assert my patriotism by putting a flag up anywhere, I'm secure in my nationality." Why would people be insecure about their nationality? | |||
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""Symbol of hate" - some bloody funny people on here . Guessing you're fine with it cable tied half way up a lamp post then. I feel no need to aggressively assert my patriotism by putting a flag up anywhere, I'm secure in my nationality. Why would people be insecure about their nationality?" No idea, but they seem to be. | |||
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"Surely the question as an outsider is do you feel the flag is valued and not tainted by far right fascists who have abused it. Because for me it's a symbol of hate the way the confederate flag is. But that's as someone not English. If comfortable, then fly a little flag and enjoy the day. Don't push the rules and get up to whatever traditions you do on the day. And don't forget to moan it's not a bank holiday lol. Alot of rules I feel are built on the intimidation flags can give off. " To me if there is a sense that the flag is tainted by far right or other groups then the more non far right people that fly it the better to reclaim it. I wonder if it's just an English thing that are frightened of upsetting non English people. | |||
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"Surely the question as an outsider is do you feel the flag is valued and not tainted by far right fascists who have abused it. Because for me it's a symbol of hate the way the confederate flag is. But that's as someone not English. If comfortable, then fly a little flag and enjoy the day. Don't push the rules and get up to whatever traditions you do on the day. And don't forget to moan it's not a bank holiday lol. Alot of rules I feel are built on the intimidation flags can give off. " Should we do the same for Palestine flags? | |||
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"The St George flag has been contaminated. I see it associated with racism, far right nationalism and football thuggery far more than I see it flown for patriotism. " And I have seen the Palestine flag attached with Anti-semitism 🤷♂️ | |||
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"The St George flag has been contaminated. I see it associated with racism, far right nationalism and football thuggery far more than I see it flown for patriotism. And I have seen the Palestine flag attached with Anti-semitism 🤷♂️" Anti semism or anti Zionism? | |||
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"The St George flag has been contaminated. I see it associated with racism, far right nationalism and football thuggery far more than I see it flown for patriotism. And I have seen the Palestine flag attached with Anti-semitism 🤷♂️ Anti semism or anti Zionism? " Both. It's well known that the Pro-palestine crowd has an anti semitism problem and are intimidating towards the Jews, like these lovely bunch of humans: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/05/16/anti-semitism-has-no-place-britain-says-pm-convoy-cars-chanted/ | |||
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"attached with Anti-semitism 🤷♂️" The Palestine flag is antisemitic and anti-Christian by design – tolerance of Jews and Christians as dhimmi, but not with any power. The colours are those of Pan-Arabism, the ideology of a continuous Arabic Caliphate to extend across the entire Levant. The colours represent the major caliphates and the Hashemites: Black: Represents the Abbasid Caliphate or the Rashidun Caliphs. White: Symbolises the Umayyad Caliphate. Green: Represents the Fatimid Caliphate or the Prophet Muhammad's family. Red Triangle: Represents the Hashemite dynasty. The design as it currently stands was popularised by the PLO, who's initial aim was to destroy the state of Israel. It represents a drive for a single Arab-ruled region, with no room for the self-determination of any other ethnicity or religious belief. The perception of it not being antisemitic that is incorrect. | |||
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"They say that what is allowed is only one flag on vertical flag pole attached to the roof of a building and if the flagpole is attached to the side of the building, the flag must not be larger than 2 square meter in size, not just that, but those living in a controlled area concent may also be needed." These will be local rules for one specific council, not generally applicable across England. And the council can't stop you from flying a flag for one day. You can do pretty much anything you like as long as it isn't a permanent or regular thing, and as long as it doesn't cause harm to others. | |||
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"The St George flag has been contaminated. I see it associated with racism, far right nationalism and football thuggery far more than I see it flown for patriotism. And I have seen the Palestine flag attached with Anti-semitism 🤷♂️ Anti semism or anti Zionism? Both. It's well known that the Pro-palestine crowd has an anti semitism problem and are intimidating towards the Jews, like these lovely bunch of humans: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/05/16/anti-semitism-has-no-place-britain-says-pm-convoy-cars-chanted/" I always chuckle at the "it's well known..." excuse - which generally translates as "I have no evidence apart from fuzzy feels". Usual pile of crap from the Torygraph. | |||
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"attached with Anti-semitism 🤷♂️ The Palestine flag is antisemitic and anti-Christian by design – tolerance of Jews and Christians as dhimmi, but not with any power. The colours are those of Pan-Arabism, the ideology of a continuous Arabic Caliphate to extend across the entire Levant. The colours represent the major caliphates and the Hashemites: Black: Represents the Abbasid Caliphate or the Rashidun Caliphs. White: Symbolises the Umayyad Caliphate. Green: Represents the Fatimid Caliphate or the Prophet Muhammad's family. Red Triangle: Represents the Hashemite dynasty. The design as it currently stands was popularised by the PLO, who's initial aim was to destroy the state of Israel. It represents a drive for a single Arab-ruled region, with no room for the self-determination of any other ethnicity or religious belief. The perception of it not being antisemitic that is incorrect." Tell us about the veganism | |||
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"The St George flag has been contaminated. I see it associated with racism, far right nationalism and football thuggery far more than I see it flown for patriotism. And I have seen the Palestine flag attached with Anti-semitism 🤷♂️ Anti semism or anti Zionism? Both. It's well known that the Pro-palestine crowd has an anti semitism problem and are intimidating towards the Jews, like these lovely bunch of humans: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/05/16/anti-semitism-has-no-place-britain-says-pm-convoy-cars-chanted/ I always chuckle at the "it's well known..." excuse - which generally translates as "I have no evidence apart from fuzzy feels". Usual pile of crap from the Torygraph." There are videos of those scumbags in a convoy chanting those vile things on loudspeaker. That's evidence. But it's not like you care about evidence anyway. | |||
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"The St George flag has been contaminated. I see it associated with racism, far right nationalism and football thuggery far more than I see it flown for patriotism. And I have seen the Palestine flag attached with Anti-semitism 🤷♂️ Anti semism or anti Zionism? Both. It's well known that the Pro-palestine crowd has an anti semitism problem and are intimidating towards the Jews, like these lovely bunch of humans: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/05/16/anti-semitism-has-no-place-britain-says-pm-convoy-cars-chanted/ I always chuckle at the "it's well known..." excuse - which generally translates as "I have no evidence apart from fuzzy feels". Usual pile of crap from the Torygraph. There are videos of those scumbags in a convoy chanting those vile things on loudspeaker. That's evidence. But it's not like you care about evidence anyway." You sure love the hasty generalisation fallacy. There's videos of scumbags wearing St George cross flags shouting Sieg Heil and throwing Nazi salutes. So by your logic, everyone who wears it is a Nazi. | |||
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"The St George flag has been contaminated. I see it associated with racism, far right nationalism and football thuggery far more than I see it flown for patriotism. And I have seen the Palestine flag attached with Anti-semitism 🤷♂️ Anti semism or anti Zionism? Both. It's well known that the Pro-palestine crowd has an anti semitism problem and are intimidating towards the Jews, like these lovely bunch of humans: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/05/16/anti-semitism-has-no-place-britain-says-pm-convoy-cars-chanted/ I always chuckle at the "it's well known..." excuse - which generally translates as "I have no evidence apart from fuzzy feels". Usual pile of crap from the Torygraph. There are videos of those scumbags in a convoy chanting those vile things on loudspeaker. That's evidence. But it's not like you care about evidence anyway. You sure love the hasty generalisation fallacy. There's videos of scumbags wearing St George cross flags shouting Sieg Heil and throwing Nazi salutes. So by your logic, everyone who wears it is a Nazi. " That was exactly my point! If a few people misusing the George Cross flags is enough for you to say, "St George flag has been contaminated. I see it associated with racism", a few people misusing Palestine flags and saying those horrible things should be good enough for say that "Palestine flag has been contaminated. I see it associated with Anti-semitism." Either both flags or contaminated or neither is. If you think one is contaminated but not the other, you are just a hypocrite. | |||
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"The St George flag has been contaminated. I see it associated with racism, far right nationalism and football thuggery far more than I see it flown for patriotism. And I have seen the Palestine flag attached with Anti-semitism 🤷♂️ Anti semism or anti Zionism? Both. It's well known that the Pro-palestine crowd has an anti semitism problem and are intimidating towards the Jews, like these lovely bunch of humans: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/05/16/anti-semitism-has-no-place-britain-says-pm-convoy-cars-chanted/ I always chuckle at the "it's well known..." excuse - which generally translates as "I have no evidence apart from fuzzy feels". Usual pile of crap from the Torygraph. There are videos of those scumbags in a convoy chanting those vile things on loudspeaker. That's evidence. But it's not like you care about evidence anyway. You sure love the hasty generalisation fallacy. There's videos of scumbags wearing St George cross flags shouting Sieg Heil and throwing Nazi salutes. So by your logic, everyone who wears it is a Nazi. That was exactly my point! If a few people misusing the George Cross flags is enough for you to say, "St George flag has been contaminated. I see it associated with racism", a few people misusing Palestine flags and saying those horrible things should be good enough for say that "Palestine flag has been contaminated. I see it associated with Anti-semitism." Either both flags or contaminated or neither is. If you think one is contaminated but not the other, you are just a hypocrite." Yes. Bigots pretending a flag belongs to them and only them is always the same branch of brain-dead nationalism. | |||
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"The St George flag has been contaminated. I see it associated with racism, far right nationalism and football thuggery far more than I see it flown for patriotism. And I have seen the Palestine flag attached with Anti-semitism 🤷♂️ Anti semism or anti Zionism? Both. It's well known that the Pro-palestine crowd has an anti semitism problem and are intimidating towards the Jews, like these lovely bunch of humans: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/05/16/anti-semitism-has-no-place-britain-says-pm-convoy-cars-chanted/ I always chuckle at the "it's well known..." excuse - which generally translates as "I have no evidence apart from fuzzy feels". Usual pile of crap from the Torygraph. There are videos of those scumbags in a convoy chanting those vile things on loudspeaker. That's evidence. But it's not like you care about evidence anyway. You sure love the hasty generalisation fallacy. There's videos of scumbags wearing St George cross flags shouting Sieg Heil and throwing Nazi salutes. So by your logic, everyone who wears it is a Nazi. That was exactly my point! If a few people misusing the George Cross flags is enough for you to say, "St George flag has been contaminated. I see it associated with racism", a few people misusing Palestine flags and saying those horrible things should be good enough for say that "Palestine flag has been contaminated. I see it associated with Anti-semitism." Either both flags or contaminated or neither is. If you think one is contaminated but not the other, you are just a hypocrite. Yes. Bigots pretending a flag belongs to them and only them is always the same branch of brain-dead nationalism." And bigots pretending that holding Palestine flag gives them the right to shout "Fuck the jews. R*pe their daughters" is always the same branch of religious fascism. | |||
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"The St George flag has been contaminated. I see it associated with racism, far right nationalism and football thuggery far more than I see it flown for patriotism. And I have seen the Palestine flag attached with Anti-semitism 🤷♂️ Anti semism or anti Zionism? Both. It's well known that the Pro-palestine crowd has an anti semitism problem and are intimidating towards the Jews, like these lovely bunch of humans: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/05/16/anti-semitism-has-no-place-britain-says-pm-convoy-cars-chanted/ I always chuckle at the "it's well known..." excuse - which generally translates as "I have no evidence apart from fuzzy feels". Usual pile of crap from the Torygraph. There are videos of those scumbags in a convoy chanting those vile things on loudspeaker. That's evidence. But it's not like you care about evidence anyway. You sure love the hasty generalisation fallacy. There's videos of scumbags wearing St George cross flags shouting Sieg Heil and throwing Nazi salutes. So by your logic, everyone who wears it is a Nazi. That was exactly my point! If a few people misusing the George Cross flags is enough for you to say, "St George flag has been contaminated. I see it associated with racism", a few people misusing Palestine flags and saying those horrible things should be good enough for say that "Palestine flag has been contaminated. I see it associated with Anti-semitism." Either both flags or contaminated or neither is. If you think one is contaminated but not the other, you are just a hypocrite. Yes. Bigots pretending a flag belongs to them and only them is always the same branch of brain-dead nationalism. And bigots pretending that holding Palestine flag gives them the right to shout "Fuck the jews. R*pe their daughters" is always the same branch of religious fascism." Has anyone defended that, then? | |||
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"The St George flag has been contaminated. I see it associated with racism, far right nationalism and football thuggery far more than I see it flown for patriotism. And I have seen the Palestine flag attached with Anti-semitism 🤷♂️ Anti semism or anti Zionism? Both. It's well known that the Pro-palestine crowd has an anti semitism problem and are intimidating towards the Jews, like these lovely bunch of humans: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/05/16/anti-semitism-has-no-place-britain-says-pm-convoy-cars-chanted/ I always chuckle at the "it's well known..." excuse - which generally translates as "I have no evidence apart from fuzzy feels". Usual pile of crap from the Torygraph. There are videos of those scumbags in a convoy chanting those vile things on loudspeaker. That's evidence. But it's not like you care about evidence anyway. You sure love the hasty generalisation fallacy. There's videos of scumbags wearing St George cross flags shouting Sieg Heil and throwing Nazi salutes. So by your logic, everyone who wears it is a Nazi. That was exactly my point! If a few people misusing the George Cross flags is enough for you to say, "St George flag has been contaminated. I see it associated with racism", a few people misusing Palestine flags and saying those horrible things should be good enough for say that "Palestine flag has been contaminated. I see it associated with Anti-semitism." Either both flags or contaminated or neither is. If you think one is contaminated but not the other, you are just a hypocrite. Yes. Bigots pretending a flag belongs to them and only them is always the same branch of brain-dead nationalism. And bigots pretending that holding Palestine flag gives them the right to shout "Fuck the jews. R*pe their daughters" is always the same branch of religious fascism. Has anyone defended that, then? " The thread is about flags. My point has been explained in the previous post. If one flag is contaminated, so is the other. | |||
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" Tell us about the veganism" I've been vegan for almost 13 years. Why is that relevant to this topic, or are you still trolling me? 🙃 | |||
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"The St George flag has been contaminated. I see it associated with racism, far right nationalism and football thuggery far more than I see it flown for patriotism. And I have seen the Palestine flag attached with Anti-semitism 🤷♂️ Anti semism or anti Zionism? Both. It's well known that the Pro-palestine crowd has an anti semitism problem and are intimidating towards the Jews, like these lovely bunch of humans: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/05/16/anti-semitism-has-no-place-britain-says-pm-convoy-cars-chanted/ I always chuckle at the "it's well known..." excuse - which generally translates as "I have no evidence apart from fuzzy feels". Usual pile of crap from the Torygraph. There are videos of those scumbags in a convoy chanting those vile things on loudspeaker. That's evidence. But it's not like you care about evidence anyway. You sure love the hasty generalisation fallacy. There's videos of scumbags wearing St George cross flags shouting Sieg Heil and throwing Nazi salutes. So by your logic, everyone who wears it is a Nazi. That was exactly my point! If a few people misusing the George Cross flags is enough for you to say, "St George flag has been contaminated. I see it associated with racism", a few people misusing Palestine flags and saying those horrible things should be good enough for say that "Palestine flag has been contaminated. I see it associated with Anti-semitism." Either both flags or contaminated or neither is. If you think one is contaminated but not the other, you are just a hypocrite. Yes. Bigots pretending a flag belongs to them and only them is always the same branch of brain-dead nationalism. And bigots pretending that holding Palestine flag gives them the right to shout "Fuck the jews. R*pe their daughters" is always the same branch of religious fascism. Has anyone defended that, then? The thread is about flags. My point has been explained in the previous post. If one flag is contaminated, so is the other." So this comment:- “And bigots pretending that holding Palestine flag gives them the right to shout "Fuck the jews. R*pe their daughters" is always the same branch of religious fascism” - was superfluous, then? Since nobody in the conversation has defended words like that? I wonder why you felt the need to add it? | |||
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"The St George flag has been contaminated. I see it associated with racism, far right nationalism and football thuggery far more than I see it flown for patriotism. And I have seen the Palestine flag attached with Anti-semitism 🤷♂️ Anti semism or anti Zionism? Both. It's well known that the Pro-palestine crowd has an anti semitism problem and are intimidating towards the Jews, like these lovely bunch of humans: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/05/16/anti-semitism-has-no-place-britain-says-pm-convoy-cars-chanted/ I always chuckle at the "it's well known..." excuse - which generally translates as "I have no evidence apart from fuzzy feels". Usual pile of crap from the Torygraph. There are videos of those scumbags in a convoy chanting those vile things on loudspeaker. That's evidence. But it's not like you care about evidence anyway. You sure love the hasty generalisation fallacy. There's videos of scumbags wearing St George cross flags shouting Sieg Heil and throwing Nazi salutes. So by your logic, everyone who wears it is a Nazi. That was exactly my point! If a few people misusing the George Cross flags is enough for you to say, "St George flag has been contaminated. I see it associated with racism", a few people misusing Palestine flags and saying those horrible things should be good enough for say that "Palestine flag has been contaminated. I see it associated with Anti-semitism." Either both flags or contaminated or neither is. If you think one is contaminated but not the other, you are just a hypocrite. Yes. Bigots pretending a flag belongs to them and only them is always the same branch of brain-dead nationalism. And bigots pretending that holding Palestine flag gives them the right to shout "Fuck the jews. R*pe their daughters" is always the same branch of religious fascism. Has anyone defended that, then? The thread is about flags. My point has been explained in the previous post. If one flag is contaminated, so is the other. So this comment:- “And bigots pretending that holding Palestine flag gives them the right to shout "Fuck the jews. R*pe their daughters" is always the same branch of religious fascism” - was superfluous, then? Since nobody in the conversation has defended words like that? I wonder why you felt the need to add it?" We are discussing flags and I gave a perspective on how many flags have been misused by horrible people. Not superfluous in my opinion. If you think it is, you can always move on 🤷♂️ | |||
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"The St George flag has been contaminated. I see it associated with racism, far right nationalism and football thuggery far more than I see it flown for patriotism. And I have seen the Palestine flag attached with Anti-semitism 🤷♂️ Anti semism or anti Zionism? Both. It's well known that the Pro-palestine crowd has an anti semitism problem and are intimidating towards the Jews, like these lovely bunch of humans: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/05/16/anti-semitism-has-no-place-britain-says-pm-convoy-cars-chanted/ I always chuckle at the "it's well known..." excuse - which generally translates as "I have no evidence apart from fuzzy feels". Usual pile of crap from the Torygraph. There are videos of those scumbags in a convoy chanting those vile things on loudspeaker. That's evidence. But it's not like you care about evidence anyway. You sure love the hasty generalisation fallacy. There's videos of scumbags wearing St George cross flags shouting Sieg Heil and throwing Nazi salutes. So by your logic, everyone who wears it is a Nazi. That was exactly my point! If a few people misusing the George Cross flags is enough for you to say, "St George flag has been contaminated. I see it associated with racism", a few people misusing Palestine flags and saying those horrible things should be good enough for say that "Palestine flag has been contaminated. I see it associated with Anti-semitism." Either both flags or contaminated or neither is. If you think one is contaminated but not the other, you are just a hypocrite. Yes. Bigots pretending a flag belongs to them and only them is always the same branch of brain-dead nationalism. And bigots pretending that holding Palestine flag gives them the right to shout "Fuck the jews. R*pe their daughters" is always the same branch of religious fascism. Has anyone defended that, then? The thread is about flags. My point has been explained in the previous post. If one flag is contaminated, so is the other. So this comment:- “And bigots pretending that holding Palestine flag gives them the right to shout "Fuck the jews. R*pe their daughters" is always the same branch of religious fascism” - was superfluous, then? Since nobody in the conversation has defended words like that? I wonder why you felt the need to add it? We are discussing flags and I gave a perspective on how many flags have been misused by horrible people. Not superfluous in my opinion. If you think it is, you can always move on 🤷♂️" Indeed. No need to continue further, your response was telling. | |||
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"Are you also following the latest about it, if you are allowed or not to fly the flag on st georges day? Apparently you could get a fine up to £2500 for flying flags outside your home on that day, there seem to be some flag rules about it, like displaying it incorrectly. So what is the correct way? They say that what is allowed is only one flag on vertical flag pole attached to the roof of a building and if the flagpole is attached to the side of the building, the flag must not be larger than 2 square meter in size, not just that, but those living in a controlled area concent may also be needed. What is your view about it and the rules about how to fly a flag? Whilst it is good to have some rules. I think that during celebrations like this, they could change it, so people could fly it wherever, within reason of course too
"You've been reading too much propaganda bullshit You can fly the English flag on you're own property without permission, the flag pole can be up to 4.6m and the flag up to 2m² I doubt anyone will be round with a tape measure and if they do be sure to ask for your day in court | |||
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"Are you also following the latest about it, if you are allowed or not to fly the flag on st georges day? Apparently you could get a fine up to £2500 for flying flags outside your home on that day, there seem to be some flag rules about it, like displaying it incorrectly. So what is the correct way? They say that what is allowed is only one flag on vertical flag pole attached to the roof of a building and if the flagpole is attached to the side of the building, the flag must not be larger than 2 square meter in size, not just that, but those living in a controlled area concent may also be needed. What is your view about it and the rules about how to fly a flag? Whilst it is good to have some rules. I think that during celebrations like this, they could change it, so people could fly it wherever, within reason of course too
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You can fly the English flag on you're own property without permission, the flag pole can be up to 4.6m and the flag up to 2m²
I doubt anyone will be round with a tape measure and if they do be sure to ask for your day in court"But my mates brothers cousin heard a guy in the local pub got fined lol | |||
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" But my mates brothers cousin heard a guy in the local pub got fined lol" 🤣🤣🤣. House in the next street has a St George flag which literally covers the entire house. All the windows and the top half of the front door covered. It goes up on various key days and stays up for a couple of weeks after. He has been doing this for years. Council don't really care (nor should they). | |||
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"I've flown the Sg George flag outside my home for 20yrs now. As long as it's not damaged or faded there should be no issues. It would need to be a good argument for me to take it down." I am not clear as to whether you have flown the flag on every St Georges day for 20 years, or continously for 20 years. There could be a subtle difference in how people see your show of patriotism! | |||
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"Context - st George flag on st George day = fine St George flag to threaten immigrants in burning hotels = not fine " I’ve been to plenty of foreign countries and have never felt threatened by them flying their national flag. It’s nice to see. I don’t take it as a sign that I should leave their country. Good for them for being proud of it. Given that these people have (allegedly) fled for their lives from war zones I wouldn’t have thought a bit of flag waving would concern them, compared to the horrors they have been through. I doubt whether they even have the first clue what the flag is. | |||
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"Context - st George flag on st George day = fine St George flag to threaten immigrants in burning hotels = not fine I’ve been to plenty of foreign countries and have never felt threatened by them flying their national flag. It’s nice to see. I don’t take it as a sign that I should leave their country. Good for them for being proud of it. Given that these people have (allegedly) fled for their lives from war zones I wouldn’t have thought a bit of flag waving would concern them, compared to the horrors they have been through. I doubt whether they even have the first clue what the flag is. " Pretty sure they would. Despite your depiction of them they are educated. Having pogroms and people burnt in buildings during the Farage riots and a hoard of gammons carrying the flag at you will tarnish it's value. | |||
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"Context - st George flag on st George day = fine St George flag to threaten immigrants in burning hotels = not fine I’ve been to plenty of foreign countries and have never felt threatened by them flying their national flag. It’s nice to see. I don’t take it as a sign that I should leave their country. Good for them for being proud of it. Given that these people have (allegedly) fled for their lives from war zones I wouldn’t have thought a bit of flag waving would concern them, compared to the horrors they have been through. I doubt whether they even have the first clue what the flag is. Pretty sure they would. Despite your depiction of them they are educated. Having pogroms and people burnt in buildings during the Farage riots and a hoard of gammons carrying the flag at you will tarnish it's value." Doctors and engineers all! | |||
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"Context - st George flag on st George day = fine St George flag to threaten immigrants in burning hotels = not fine I’ve been to plenty of foreign countries and have never felt threatened by them flying their national flag. It’s nice to see. I don’t take it as a sign that I should leave their country. Good for them for being proud of it. Given that these people have (allegedly) fled for their lives from war zones I wouldn’t have thought a bit of flag waving would concern them, compared to the horrors they have been through. I doubt whether they even have the first clue what the flag is. Pretty sure they would. Despite your depiction of them they are educated. Having pogroms and people burnt in buildings during the Farage riots and a hoard of gammons carrying the flag at you will tarnish it's value. Doctors and engineers all! " No one is saying that, but they do have schools, and maps and learn about flags and money and capitals the same as anywhere. And every human has potential if you nurture it. | |||
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"Context - st George flag on st George day = fine St George flag to threaten immigrants in burning hotels = not fine I’ve been to plenty of foreign countries and have never felt threatened by them flying their national flag. It’s nice to see. I don’t take it as a sign that I should leave their country. Good for them for being proud of it. Given that these people have (allegedly) fled for their lives from war zones I wouldn’t have thought a bit of flag waving would concern them, compared to the horrors they have been through. I doubt whether they even have the first clue what the flag is. Pretty sure they would. Despite your depiction of them they are educated. Having pogroms and people burnt in buildings during the Farage riots and a hoard of gammons carrying the flag at you will tarnish it's value. Doctors and engineers all! No one is saying that, but they do have schools, and maps and learn about flags and money and capitals the same as anywhere. And every human has potential if you nurture it. " Sounds like the countries they fled from were pretty good, with all this education they received. | |||
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"Context - st George flag on st George day = fine St George flag to threaten immigrants in burning hotels = not fine I’ve been to plenty of foreign countries and have never felt threatened by them flying their national flag. It’s nice to see. I don’t take it as a sign that I should leave their country. Good for them for being proud of it. Given that these people have (allegedly) fled for their lives from war zones I wouldn’t have thought a bit of flag waving would concern them, compared to the horrors they have been through. I doubt whether they even have the first clue what the flag is. Pretty sure they would. Despite your depiction of them they are educated. Having pogroms and people burnt in buildings during the Farage riots and a hoard of gammons carrying the flag at you will tarnish it's value. Doctors and engineers all! No one is saying that, but they do have schools, and maps and learn about flags and money and capitals the same as anywhere. And every human has potential if you nurture it. Sounds like the countries they fled from were pretty good, with all this education they received." Lol. I see, so if a country can educate they are a 'safe' country? Women in Afghanistan? Homosexuals in Iran? People fleeing war torn Mali, Congo or Sudan? | |||
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"Context - st George flag on st George day = fine St George flag to threaten immigrants in burning hotels = not fine " Bullshit | |||
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"Context - st George flag on st George day = fine St George flag to threaten immigrants in burning hotels = not fine Bullshit " Is it? Anyone been arrested in Trafalgar Square at George flag orgy with the Muslim Sadiq Kahn on st George day? | |||
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"St George’s flags were fine back when the most likely place you were to see one was on a country village church tower. However, we all know that now they have been adopted by all sorts of riff raff from football hooligans to nasty pieces of work on the political scene. That is where the current conflict over their usage lies. My stance is that if you fly it on St George's Day to celebrate the occasion as a nod to tradition, then well and good but if you use the flag or the celebration of the day to cause dissent, you deserve to have the law having a serious word with you." My goodness yes we can’t have the peasants “dissenting” about things. | |||
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"Context - st George flag on st George day = fine St George flag to threaten immigrants in burning hotels = not fine Bullshit Is it? Anyone been arrested in Trafalgar Square at George flag orgy with the Muslim Sadiq Kahn on st George day?" Did they pray though? | |||
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"St George’s flags were fine back when the most likely place you were to see one was on a country village church tower. However, we all know that now they have been adopted by all sorts of riff raff from football hooligans to nasty pieces of work on the political scene. That is where the current conflict over their usage lies. My stance is that if you fly it on St George's Day to celebrate the occasion as a nod to tradition, then well and good but if you use the flag or the celebration of the day to cause dissent, you deserve to have the law having a serious word with you. My goodness yes we can’t have the peasants “dissenting” about things." Peasants and poets, alike, can dissent as much as they wish, but without giving a national flag a bad name! | |||
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" Whilst it is good to have some rules. I think that during celebrations like this, they could change it, so people could fly it wherever, within reason of course too
"OP I think you just got to the nub of the problem. The rules are there otherwise who decides what "within reason" is. | |||
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"Flag shaggers day rejoice " Hopefully it won't be flags I will be shagging today! | |||
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"Whilst it is good to have some rules. I think that during celebrations like this, they could change it, so people could fly it wherever, within reason of course too" "OP I think you just got to the nub of the problem. The rules are there otherwise who decides what "within reason" is." The rules are all written down and tested in court. You can put up whatever you like as long as it isn't in position for more than 28 days in any one year, isn't over 50ft high, and doesn't extend beyond your own property boundaries. | |||
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"Flag shaggers day rejoice " you dont ever fly the welsh flag? | |||
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" ... The rules are all written down and tested in court. You can put up whatever you like as long as it isn't in position for more than 28 days in any one year, isn't over 50ft high, and doesn't extend beyond your own property boundaries." So that's all the lamp post flags dealt with. Shame the rule isn't that they all have to be over 50ft high... | |||
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"The rules are all written down and tested in court. You can put up whatever you like as long as it isn't in position for more than 28 days in any one year, isn't over 50ft high, and doesn't extend beyond your own property boundaries." "So that's all the lamp post flags dealt with. Shame the rule isn't that they all have to be over 50ft high..." I was only taking about displaying a flag on your own property. Obviously flags tied to lamp posts in the street are against the rules unless they are put there by the council. | |||
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"Flag shaggers day rejoice you dont ever fly the welsh flag? " I don't think I've ever shagged more than one Welsh woman! | |||
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"I've flown the Sg George flag outside my home for 20yrs now. As long as it's not damaged or faded there should be no issues. It would need to be a good argument for me to take it down." That is good you have flown the st george flag for 20 years, yes, as long it isnt that too  | |||
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"Flag shaggers day rejoice you dont ever fly the welsh flag? " Absolutely not! I have no affinity to a piece of clock or another 24 hours labelled at George's day or at David's day. These are merely concepts. To rally the troops into tribes and hate other humans who happen to be born inside a different border on another part of this rock, continent or world. | |||
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"Flag shaggers day rejoice you dont ever fly the welsh flag? Absolutely not! I have no affinity to a piece of clock or another 24 hours labelled at George's day or at David's day. These are merely concepts. To rally the troops into tribes and hate other humans who happen to be born inside a different border on another part of this rock, continent or world." *Cloth not clock | |||
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"Flag shaggers day rejoice you dont ever fly the welsh flag? Absolutely not! I have no affinity to a piece of clock or another 24 hours labelled at George's day or at David's day. These are merely concepts. To rally the troops into tribes and hate other humans who happen to be born inside a different border on another part of this rock, continent or world." Even the Palestine flag or Pride flag? | |||
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"Flag shaggers day rejoice you dont ever fly the welsh flag? Absolutely not! I have no affinity to a piece of clock or another 24 hours labelled at George's day or at David's day. These are merely concepts. To rally the troops into tribes and hate other humans who happen to be born inside a different border on another part of this rock, continent or world. Even the Palestine flag or Pride flag?" Personally I feel fuck all for them!! | |||
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"Flag shaggers day rejoice you dont ever fly the welsh flag? Absolutely not! I have no affinity to a piece of clock or another 24 hours labelled at George's day or at David's day. These are merely concepts. To rally the troops into tribes and hate other humans who happen to be born inside a different border on another part of this rock, continent or world. Even the Palestine flag or Pride flag? Personally I feel fuck all for them!!" At least you are consistent | |||
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"Context - st George flag on st George day = fine St George flag to threaten immigrants in burning hotels = not fine Bullshit Is it? Anyone been arrested in Trafalgar Square at George flag orgy with the Muslim Sadiq Kahn on st George day?" What about the annual Jewish Chanukah celebrations? Or the Christmas tree, for that matter? | |||
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"Context - st George flag on st George day = fine St George flag to threaten immigrants in burning hotels = not fine Bullshit Is it? Anyone been arrested in Trafalgar Square at George flag orgy with the Muslim Sadiq Kahn on st George day? What about the annual Jewish Chanukah celebrations? Or the Christmas tree, for that matter? " Nick Timothy tweeted??? Disgrace to see prayers for a Turkish/Palestinian called George??? | |||
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"I've flown the Sg George flag outside my home for 20yrs now. As long as it's not damaged or faded there should be no issues. It would need to be a good argument for me to take it down. I am not clear as to whether you have flown the flag on every St Georges day for 20 years, or continously for 20 years. There could be a subtle difference in how people see your show of patriotism!" My flag only come down on the key days as I can't make it go half mast. Every day otherwise. | |||
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"Shag flaggers happy? Did they get the sesh they wanted? Did anyone stop them praying in Trafalgar Square?" Anyone stop the muslims call to prayer blasting loudspeaker over entire towns? Do you prefer hearing that to seeing a white and red flag in England? | |||
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"Where does the term flag shaggers come from and does it apply to all groups that wave or fly a flag or to the English flag only?" Presumably a similar concept to arse lickers? | |||
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"Shag flaggers happy? Did they get the sesh they wanted? Did anyone stop them praying in Trafalgar Square? Anyone stop the muslims call to prayer blasting loudspeaker over entire towns? Do you prefer hearing that to seeing a white and red flag in England?" What if you're Muslim and English? Also, the call to prayer requires special permission from the locals and an application to the council. Hearing it across entire towns is unlikely. The nation needs to take pride in the England flag, unfortunately it's been hijacked by certain groups who are more anti-immigration than pro England. There's a difference between loving our country and hating other people who also live in our country. The real enemy are the rich and powerful. | |||
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"The real enemy are the rich and powerful." Why? | |||
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"Then surely that’s a good reason for people to fly the flag on St George’s day take the power away from those using it for racist reason If every proud British Muslim / Hindu / Sikh / Jewish person etc decided on St George’s Day to fly St George’s Flag the power would be taken away from those using it for unkind reasons " It also has the distinct advantage of being one of the easiest flags to apply using face paints.. ..turn St George’s Day into a fun event for all! | |||
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"Shag flaggers happy? Did they get the sesh they wanted? Did anyone stop them praying in Trafalgar Square? Anyone stop the muslims call to prayer blasting loudspeaker over entire towns? Do you prefer hearing that to seeing a white and red flag in England?" They’re cheeks of the same arse. | |||
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"The real enemy are the rich and powerful. Why?" Consistently bad decisions over decades (so it's not just one government or party) and money mismanagement to name two. There are more reasons but it's too long to go into. There is more that unites us than divides us. | |||
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