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"Taco or not Taco that is the question. Tehran has promised "devastating response" I guess we'll find out in 14 hours, hopefully no more innocent civilians anywhere will lose their lives " I think we can all agree on that.🙏 | |||
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"Taco or not Taco that is the question. Tehran has promised "devastating response" I guess we'll find out in 14 hours, hopefully no more innocent civilians anywhere will lose their lives I think we can all agree on that.🙏" Then let's pray your tangerine turd does yet another U turn 👍 | |||
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"Taco or not Taco that is the question. Tehran has promised "devastating response" I guess we'll find out in 14 hours, hopefully no more innocent civilians anywhere will lose their lives I think we can all agree on that.🙏 Then let's pray your tangerine turd does yet another U turn 👍" I hope Iran sees sense. | |||
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" I hope Iran sees sense." They won’t. They have been attacked twice whilst negotiations were going on. They won’t trust Trump for a third time. They are in this until the end & if they die in the process, they become martyrs. Win Win for the regime. If Trump starts bombing civilian infrastructure he becomes a war criminal & the ICC should stick a warrant on him for his arrest, even if it is only symbolic. | |||
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" I hope Iran sees sense. They won’t. They have been attacked twice whilst negotiations were going on. They won’t trust Trump for a third time. They are in this until the end & if they die in the process, they become martyrs. Win Win for the regime. If Trump starts bombing civilian infrastructure he becomes a war criminal & the ICC should stick a warrant on him for his arrest, even if it is only symbolic. " Does the ICC have any jurisdiction? | |||
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" I hope Iran sees sense. They won’t. They have been attacked twice whilst negotiations were going on. They won’t trust Trump for a third time. They are in this until the end & if they die in the process, they become martyrs. Win Win for the regime. If Trump starts bombing civilian infrastructure he becomes a war criminal & the ICC should stick a warrant on him for his arrest, even if it is only symbolic. Does the ICC have any jurisdiction?" No, the US don’t recognise it, hence me saying it would be symbolic. I don’t think the Israelis liked Netanyahu getting an arrest warrant, even though they too aren’t members. | |||
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" I hope Iran sees sense. They won’t. They have been attacked twice whilst negotiations were going on. They won’t trust Trump for a third time. They are in this until the end & if they die in the process, they become martyrs. Win Win for the regime. If Trump starts bombing civilian infrastructure he becomes a war criminal & the ICC should stick a warrant on him for his arrest, even if it is only symbolic. " Perhaps if the international community had arrested the regime leaders for killing 50,000 people this conflict could have been avoided? Very odd how those civilians have been so quickly forgotten. | |||
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" I hope Iran sees sense. They won’t. They have been attacked twice whilst negotiations were going on. They won’t trust Trump for a third time. They are in this until the end & if they die in the process, they become martyrs. Win Win for the regime. If Trump starts bombing civilian infrastructure he becomes a war criminal & the ICC should stick a warrant on him for his arrest, even if it is only symbolic. Perhaps if the international community had arrested the regime leaders for killing 50,000 people this conflict could have been avoided? Very odd how those civilians have been so quickly forgotten." Iran also aren’t members of the ICC. Also, going into Iran to arrest these people obviously isn’t easy. The current military operation has killed a lot of the Iranian top brass though anyway has it not? I don’t think anybody is defending the regime, their failings are common knowledge. Do we not expect superior standards from western leaders? | |||
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" I hope Iran sees sense. They won’t. They have been attacked twice whilst negotiations were going on. They won’t trust Trump for a third time. They are in this until the end & if they die in the process, they become martyrs. Win Win for the regime. If Trump starts bombing civilian infrastructure he becomes a war criminal & the ICC should stick a warrant on him for his arrest, even if it is only symbolic. Perhaps if the international community had arrested the regime leaders for killing 50,000 people this conflict could have been avoided? Very odd how those civilians have been so quickly forgotten." Very true. But in some people’s eyes those lives are meaningless. | |||
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" I hope Iran sees sense. They won’t. They have been attacked twice whilst negotiations were going on. They won’t trust Trump for a third time. They are in this until the end & if they die in the process, they become martyrs. Win Win for the regime. If Trump starts bombing civilian infrastructure he becomes a war criminal & the ICC should stick a warrant on him for his arrest, even if it is only symbolic. Perhaps if the international community had arrested the regime leaders for killing 50,000 people this conflict could have been avoided? " How? | |||
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" I hope Iran sees sense. They won’t. They have been attacked twice whilst negotiations were going on. They won’t trust Trump for a third time. They are in this until the end & if they die in the process, they become martyrs. Win Win for the regime. If Trump starts bombing civilian infrastructure he becomes a war criminal & the ICC should stick a warrant on him for his arrest, even if it is only symbolic. Perhaps if the international community had arrested the regime leaders for killing 50,000 people this conflict could have been avoided? How? " I'll leave that to the many experts on international law who are so quick to condem Israel and the US. After all, you can't have a legal system without enforcement can you ? | |||
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" I hope Iran sees sense. They won’t. They have been attacked twice whilst negotiations were going on. They won’t trust Trump for a third time. They are in this until the end & if they die in the process, they become martyrs. Win Win for the regime. If Trump starts bombing civilian infrastructure he becomes a war criminal & the ICC should stick a warrant on him for his arrest, even if it is only symbolic. Perhaps if the international community had arrested the regime leaders for killing 50,000 people this conflict could have been avoided? Very odd how those civilians have been so quickly forgotten. Very true. But in some people’s eyes those lives are meaningless. " No one on here has ever said that.. | |||
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" I hope Iran sees sense. They won’t. They have been attacked twice whilst negotiations were going on. They won’t trust Trump for a third time. They are in this until the end & if they die in the process, they become martyrs. Win Win for the regime. If Trump starts bombing civilian infrastructure he becomes a war criminal & the ICC should stick a warrant on him for his arrest, even if it is only symbolic. Perhaps if the international community had arrested the regime leaders for killing 50,000 people this conflict could have been avoided? How? " I'm assuming that's a rhetorical question because you sure as hell won't get an answer lol | |||
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" I hope Iran sees sense. They won’t. They have been attacked twice whilst negotiations were going on. They won’t trust Trump for a third time. They are in this until the end & if they die in the process, they become martyrs. Win Win for the regime. If Trump starts bombing civilian infrastructure he becomes a war criminal & the ICC should stick a warrant on him for his arrest, even if it is only symbolic. Perhaps if the international community had arrested the regime leaders for killing 50,000 people this conflict could have been avoided? Very odd how those civilians have been so quickly forgotten. Very true. But in some people’s eyes those lives are meaningless. " In trumps eyes those deaths were meaningless because he's trying to cut a deal with the same regime isn't he 🤷♂️ | |||
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" I hope Iran sees sense. They won’t. They have been attacked twice whilst negotiations were going on. They won’t trust Trump for a third time. They are in this until the end & if they die in the process, they become martyrs. Win Win for the regime. If Trump starts bombing civilian infrastructure he becomes a war criminal & the ICC should stick a warrant on him for his arrest, even if it is only symbolic. Perhaps if the international community had arrested the regime leaders for killing 50,000 people this conflict could have been avoided? How? I'll leave that to the many experts on international law who are so quick to condem Israel and the US. After all, you can't have a legal system without enforcement can you ? " You really really can have such a system.. Perhaps if the USA led the way and signed up to international protocols like the ICC other's might follow..? Smaller nations need guidance and positive influences.. China, North Korea and Russia etc will always be on the outside but being in their club isnt something the world's policeman should aspire to, rise above such nations and set a higher standard.. | |||
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" I hope Iran sees sense. They won’t. They have been attacked twice whilst negotiations were going on. They won’t trust Trump for a third time. They are in this until the end & if they die in the process, they become martyrs. Win Win for the regime. If Trump starts bombing civilian infrastructure he becomes a war criminal & the ICC should stick a warrant on him for his arrest, even if it is only symbolic. Perhaps if the international community had arrested the regime leaders for killing 50,000 people this conflict could have been avoided? Very odd how those civilians have been so quickly forgotten. Very true. But in some people’s eyes those lives are meaningless. No one on here has ever said that.. " They haven't, but many have certainly condemned US/Israeli actions far more than they ever did those of the regime, if they even said anything at all on the massacres in January or February. We are all free to infer what we chose from that. | |||
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" I hope Iran sees sense. They won’t. They have been attacked twice whilst negotiations were going on. They won’t trust Trump for a third time. They are in this until the end & if they die in the process, they become martyrs. Win Win for the regime. If Trump starts bombing civilian infrastructure he becomes a war criminal & the ICC should stick a warrant on him for his arrest, even if it is only symbolic. Perhaps if the international community had arrested the regime leaders for killing 50,000 people this conflict could have been avoided? Very odd how those civilians have been so quickly forgotten. Very true. But in some people’s eyes those lives are meaningless. In trumps eyes those deaths were meaningless because he's trying to cut a deal with the same regime isn't he 🤷♂️" He takes out power plants then his actions will cause more harm to the very people he wants to rise up.. Maybe he's become like a deity and feels that they have to suffer in order to be worthy..? | |||
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" I hope Iran sees sense. They won’t. They have been attacked twice whilst negotiations were going on. They won’t trust Trump for a third time. They are in this until the end & if they die in the process, they become martyrs. Win Win for the regime. If Trump starts bombing civilian infrastructure he becomes a war criminal & the ICC should stick a warrant on him for his arrest, even if it is only symbolic. Perhaps if the international community had arrested the regime leaders for killing 50,000 people this conflict could have been avoided? How? I'll leave that to the many experts on international law who are so quick to condem Israel and the US. After all, you can't have a legal system without enforcement can you ? You really really can have such a system.. Perhaps if the USA led the way and signed up to international protocols like the ICC other's might follow..? Smaller nations need guidance and positive influences.. China, North Korea and Russia etc will always be on the outside but being in their club isnt something the world's policeman should aspire to, rise above such nations and set a higher standard.. " Exactly. Why aren’t Israel or the US members of the ICC like the UK is? Probably explains Starmer’s reluctance to back this US/Israeli military action doesn’t it? You’d have thought all the members of the ‘International Rules Based Order’ would be more than happy to set an example to follow. Or the ‘International Rules Based Order’ could in fact be a nebulous phrase rooted in bullshit. | |||
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" I hope Iran sees sense. They won’t. They have been attacked twice whilst negotiations were going on. They won’t trust Trump for a third time. They are in this until the end & if they die in the process, they become martyrs. Win Win for the regime. If Trump starts bombing civilian infrastructure he becomes a war criminal & the ICC should stick a warrant on him for his arrest, even if it is only symbolic. Does the ICC have any jurisdiction? No, the US don’t recognise it, hence me saying it would be symbolic. I don’t think the Israelis liked Netanyahu getting an arrest warrant, even though they too aren’t members." Iran doesn’t recognise it either, for some reason. | |||
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" I hope Iran sees sense. They won’t. They have been attacked twice whilst negotiations were going on. They won’t trust Trump for a third time. They are in this until the end & if they die in the process, they become martyrs. Win Win for the regime. If Trump starts bombing civilian infrastructure he becomes a war criminal & the ICC should stick a warrant on him for his arrest, even if it is only symbolic. Perhaps if the international community had arrested the regime leaders for killing 50,000 people this conflict could have been avoided? Very odd how those civilians have been so quickly forgotten. Very true. But in some people’s eyes those lives are meaningless. No one on here has ever said that.. They haven't, but many have certainly condemned US/Israeli actions far more than they ever did those of the regime, if they even said anything at all on the massacres in January or February. We are all free to infer what we chose from that." The actions of the regime were condemned at the time.. One doesn't follow the other even if you think you have a right to moderate how and what others post.. A poster might not see a thread or be off site .. Thanks for confirming that no one has..  | |||
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" I hope Iran sees sense. They won’t. They have been attacked twice whilst negotiations were going on. They won’t trust Trump for a third time. They are in this until the end & if they die in the process, they become martyrs. Win Win for the regime. If Trump starts bombing civilian infrastructure he becomes a war criminal & the ICC should stick a warrant on him for his arrest, even if it is only symbolic. Does the ICC have any jurisdiction? No, the US don’t recognise it, hence me saying it would be symbolic. I don’t think the Israelis liked Netanyahu getting an arrest warrant, even though they too aren’t members. Iran doesn’t recognise it either, for some reason." But at the oppression Olympics Iran are victims and the US/Israeli are the Great Satan. Hence the very different reactions to Iran's slaughter of its own people and the US/Israeli attempt to take out those responsible. | |||
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" I hope Iran sees sense. They won’t. They have been attacked twice whilst negotiations were going on. They won’t trust Trump for a third time. They are in this until the end & if they die in the process, they become martyrs. Win Win for the regime. If Trump starts bombing civilian infrastructure he becomes a war criminal & the ICC should stick a warrant on him for his arrest, even if it is only symbolic. Does the ICC have any jurisdiction? No, the US don’t recognise it, hence me saying it would be symbolic. I don’t think the Israelis liked Netanyahu getting an arrest warrant, even though they too aren’t members. Iran doesn’t recognise it either, for some reason. But at the oppression Olympics Iran are victims and the US/Israeli are the Great Satan. Hence the very different reactions to Iran's slaughter of its own people and the US/Israeli attempt to take out those responsible. " Why add to Iran’s suffering by bombing civilian infrastructure? Especially when it is illegal to do so? I personally expect better from western leaders. Do you? | |||
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" I hope Iran sees sense. They won’t. They have been attacked twice whilst negotiations were going on. They won’t trust Trump for a third time. They are in this until the end & if they die in the process, they become martyrs. Win Win for the regime. If Trump starts bombing civilian infrastructure he becomes a war criminal & the ICC should stick a warrant on him for his arrest, even if it is only symbolic. Perhaps if the international community had arrested the regime leaders for killing 50,000 people this conflict could have been avoided? Very odd how those civilians have been so quickly forgotten. Very true. But in some people’s eyes those lives are meaningless. No one on here has ever said that.. They haven't, but many have certainly condemned US/Israeli actions far more than they ever did those of the regime, if they even said anything at all on the massacres in January or February. We are all free to infer what we chose from that. The actions of the regime were condemned at the time.. One doesn't follow the other even if you think you have a right to moderate how and what others post.. A poster might not see a thread or be off site .. Thanks for confirming that no one has.. "No, the actions of the regime were not condemned or even mentioned by many posters who now condemn the US relentlessly. I understand why some posters are sensitive on this issue but the archive doesn't lie. | |||
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"Tehran has promised "devastating response"" Don’t they always? But this could well be the activation of some of the tens of thousands of terrorist cells they have in place all over the western world. I wonder what Trump would do if there was another 9/11? | |||
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" I hope Iran sees sense. They won’t. They have been attacked twice whilst negotiations were going on. They won’t trust Trump for a third time. They are in this until the end & if they die in the process, they become martyrs. Win Win for the regime. If Trump starts bombing civilian infrastructure he becomes a war criminal & the ICC should stick a warrant on him for his arrest, even if it is only symbolic. Perhaps if the international community had arrested the regime leaders for killing 50,000 people this conflict could have been avoided? Very odd how those civilians have been so quickly forgotten. Very true. But in some people’s eyes those lives are meaningless. No one on here has ever said that.. They haven't, but many have certainly condemned US/Israeli actions far more than they ever did those of the regime, if they even said anything at all on the massacres in January or February. We are all free to infer what we chose from that. The actions of the regime were condemned at the time.. One doesn't follow the other even if you think you have a right to moderate how and what others post.. A poster might not see a thread or be off site .. Thanks for confirming that no one has..
No, the actions of the regime were not condemned or even mentioned by many posters who now condemn the US relentlessly. I understand why some posters are sensitive on this issue but the archive doesn't lie."Spreadsheet or pencil and note pad? 
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"Tehran has promised "devastating response" Don’t they always? But this could well be the activation of some of the tens of thousands of terrorist cells they have in place all over the western world. I wonder what Trump would do if there was another 9/11? " Ask NATO for help again ? | |||
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" I hope Iran sees sense. They won’t. They have been attacked twice whilst negotiations were going on. They won’t trust Trump for a third time. They are in this until the end & if they die in the process, they become martyrs. Win Win for the regime. If Trump starts bombing civilian infrastructure he becomes a war criminal & the ICC should stick a warrant on him for his arrest, even if it is only symbolic. Perhaps if the international community had arrested the regime leaders for killing 50,000 people this conflict could have been avoided? Very odd how those civilians have been so quickly forgotten. Very true. But in some people’s eyes those lives are meaningless. No one on here has ever said that.. They haven't, but many have certainly condemned US/Israeli actions far more than they ever did those of the regime, if they even said anything at all on the massacres in January or February. We are all free to infer what we chose from that. The actions of the regime were condemned at the time.. One doesn't follow the other even if you think you have a right to moderate how and what others post.. A poster might not see a thread or be off site .. Thanks for confirming that no one has..
No, the actions of the regime were not condemned or even mentioned by many posters who now condemn the US relentlessly. I understand why some posters are sensitive on this issue but the archive doesn't lie."The archive might not lie but some posters just make stuff up 🤷♂️ I think quite a few people have asked you for "evidence" | |||
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"Tehran has promised "devastating response" Don’t they always? But this could well be the activation of some of the tens of thousands of terrorist cells they have in place all over the western world. I wonder what Trump would do if there was another 9/11? " Look for a country weakened by ten plus years of sanctions rather than the country most of the terrorists came from? The latter of course buys lots of weapons .. | |||
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" I hope Iran sees sense. They won’t. They have been attacked twice whilst negotiations were going on. They won’t trust Trump for a third time. They are in this until the end & if they die in the process, they become martyrs. Win Win for the regime. If Trump starts bombing civilian infrastructure he becomes a war criminal & the ICC should stick a warrant on him for his arrest, even if it is only symbolic. Does the ICC have any jurisdiction? No, the US don’t recognise it, hence me saying it would be symbolic. I don’t think the Israelis liked Netanyahu getting an arrest warrant, even though they too aren’t members. Iran doesn’t recognise it either, for some reason. But at the oppression Olympics Iran are victims and the US/Israeli are the Great Satan. Hence the very different reactions to Iran's slaughter of its own people and the US/Israeli attempt to take out those responsible. Why add to Iran’s suffering by bombing civilian infrastructure? Especially when it is illegal to do so? I personally expect better from western leaders. Do you?" Who is going to enforce this alleged law breaking by Israel, the US and Iran? Will Starmer finally be spurred into action? Maybe another Zoom call with the EU? | |||
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" I hope Iran sees sense. They won’t. They have been attacked twice whilst negotiations were going on. They won’t trust Trump for a third time. They are in this until the end & if they die in the process, they become martyrs. Win Win for the regime. If Trump starts bombing civilian infrastructure he becomes a war criminal & the ICC should stick a warrant on him for his arrest, even if it is only symbolic. Perhaps if the international community had arrested the regime leaders for killing 50,000 people this conflict could have been avoided? Very odd how those civilians have been so quickly forgotten. Very true. But in some people’s eyes those lives are meaningless. No one on here has ever said that.. They haven't, but many have certainly condemned US/Israeli actions far more than they ever did those of the regime, if they even said anything at all on the massacres in January or February. We are all free to infer what we chose from that. The actions of the regime were condemned at the time.. One doesn't follow the other even if you think you have a right to moderate how and what others post.. A poster might not see a thread or be off site .. Thanks for confirming that no one has..
No, the actions of the regime were not condemned or even mentioned by many posters who now condemn the US relentlessly. I understand why some posters are sensitive on this issue but the archive doesn't lie.
The archive might not lie but some posters just make stuff up 🤷♂️
I think quite a few people have asked you for "evidence""This.. The 'riots and looting' in Croydon last week didnt even get in the Croydon guardian.. 
Almost like someone for a change embellished a short story.. | |||
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"Tehran has promised "devastating response" Don’t they always? But this could well be the activation of some of the tens of thousands of terrorist cells they have in place all over the western world. I wonder what Trump would do if there was another 9/11? Look for a country weakened by ten plus years of sanctions rather than the country most of the terrorists came from? The latter of course buys lots of weapons .." Are you saying most Islamist terrorists are Jews? | |||
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" I hope Iran sees sense. They won’t. They have been attacked twice whilst negotiations were going on. They won’t trust Trump for a third time. They are in this until the end & if they die in the process, they become martyrs. Win Win for the regime. If Trump starts bombing civilian infrastructure he becomes a war criminal & the ICC should stick a warrant on him for his arrest, even if it is only symbolic. Does the ICC have any jurisdiction? No, the US don’t recognise it, hence me saying it would be symbolic. I don’t think the Israelis liked Netanyahu getting an arrest warrant, even though they too aren’t members. Iran doesn’t recognise it either, for some reason. But at the oppression Olympics Iran are victims and the US/Israeli are the Great Satan. Hence the very different reactions to Iran's slaughter of its own people and the US/Israeli attempt to take out those responsible. Why add to Iran’s suffering by bombing civilian infrastructure? Especially when it is illegal to do so? I personally expect better from western leaders. Do you? Who is going to enforce this alleged law breaking by Israel, the US and Iran? Will Starmer finally be spurred into action? Maybe another Zoom call with the EU? " Iran / Russia / North Korea are easy. They get subject to sanctions. The U.S. & Israel…. | |||
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" I hope Iran sees sense. They won’t. They have been attacked twice whilst negotiations were going on. They won’t trust Trump for a third time. They are in this until the end & if they die in the process, they become martyrs. Win Win for the regime. If Trump starts bombing civilian infrastructure he becomes a war criminal & the ICC should stick a warrant on him for his arrest, even if it is only symbolic. Does the ICC have any jurisdiction? No, the US don’t recognise it, hence me saying it would be symbolic. I don’t think the Israelis liked Netanyahu getting an arrest warrant, even though they too aren’t members. Iran doesn’t recognise it either, for some reason. But at the oppression Olympics Iran are victims and the US/Israeli are the Great Satan. Hence the very different reactions to Iran's slaughter of its own people and the US/Israeli attempt to take out those responsible. Why add to Iran’s suffering by bombing civilian infrastructure? Especially when it is illegal to do so? I personally expect better from western leaders. Do you? Who is going to enforce this alleged law breaking by Israel, the US and Iran? Will Starmer finally be spurred into action? Maybe another Zoom call with the EU? Iran / Russia / North Korea are easy. They get subject to sanctions. The U.S. & Israel…." Yes I’m sure that in the Left’s listing of enemies Israel and the US are at the top with Iran, Cuba, and Venezuela somewhere down the bottom. | |||
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" I hope Iran sees sense. They won’t. They have been attacked twice whilst negotiations were going on. They won’t trust Trump for a third time. They are in this until the end & if they die in the process, they become martyrs. Win Win for the regime. If Trump starts bombing civilian infrastructure he becomes a war criminal & the ICC should stick a warrant on him for his arrest, even if it is only symbolic. Does the ICC have any jurisdiction? No, the US don’t recognise it, hence me saying it would be symbolic. I don’t think the Israelis liked Netanyahu getting an arrest warrant, even though they too aren’t members. Iran doesn’t recognise it either, for some reason. But at the oppression Olympics Iran are victims and the US/Israeli are the Great Satan. Hence the very different reactions to Iran's slaughter of its own people and the US/Israeli attempt to take out those responsible. Why add to Iran’s suffering by bombing civilian infrastructure? Especially when it is illegal to do so? I personally expect better from western leaders. Do you? Who is going to enforce this alleged law breaking by Israel, the US and Iran? Will Starmer finally be spurred into action? Maybe another Zoom call with the EU? Iran / Russia / North Korea are easy. They get subject to sanctions. The U.S. & Israel…. Yes I’m sure that in the Left’s listing of enemies Israel and the US are at the top with Iran, Cuba, and Venezuela somewhere down the bottom. " Be as flippant as you like. If you portray yourselves as liberal democracies, higher standards are expected than would be expected from authoritarian regimes. | |||
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" I hope Iran sees sense. They won’t. They have been attacked twice whilst negotiations were going on. They won’t trust Trump for a third time. They are in this until the end & if they die in the process, they become martyrs. Win Win for the regime. If Trump starts bombing civilian infrastructure he becomes a war criminal & the ICC should stick a warrant on him for his arrest, even if it is only symbolic. Perhaps if the international community had arrested the regime leaders for killing 50,000 people this conflict could have been avoided? Very odd how those civilians have been so quickly forgotten. Very true. But in some people’s eyes those lives are meaningless. No one on here has ever said that.. They haven't, but many have certainly condemned US/Israeli actions far more than they ever did those of the regime, if they even said anything at all on the massacres in January or February. We are all free to infer what we chose from that. The actions of the regime were condemned at the time.. One doesn't follow the other even if you think you have a right to moderate how and what others post.. A poster might not see a thread or be off site .. Thanks for confirming that no one has..
No, the actions of the regime were not condemned or even mentioned by many posters who now condemn the US relentlessly. I understand why some posters are sensitive on this issue but the archive doesn't lie.
The archive might not lie but some posters just make stuff up 🤷♂️
I think quite a few people have asked you for "evidence"
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The 'riots and looting' in Croydon last week didnt even get in the Croydon guardian..
Almost like someone for a change embellished a short story.."Drum roll .. deflection incoming 🤣😂 | |||
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"Tehran has promised "devastating response" Don’t they always? But this could well be the activation of some of the tens of thousands of terrorist cells they have in place all over the western world. I wonder what Trump would do if there was another 9/11? Look for a country weakened by ten plus years of sanctions rather than the country most of the terrorists came from? The latter of course buys lots of weapons .. Are you saying most Islamist terrorists are Jews? " Your not making sense? Possibly expand on how you brought Jewish people into it? | |||
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" I hope Iran sees sense. They won’t. They have been attacked twice whilst negotiations were going on. They won’t trust Trump for a third time. They are in this until the end & if they die in the process, they become martyrs. Win Win for the regime. If Trump starts bombing civilian infrastructure he becomes a war criminal & the ICC should stick a warrant on him for his arrest, even if it is only symbolic. Perhaps if the international community had arrested the regime leaders for killing 50,000 people this conflict could have been avoided? Very odd how those civilians have been so quickly forgotten. Very true. But in some people’s eyes those lives are meaningless. No one on here has ever said that.. They haven't, but many have certainly condemned US/Israeli actions far more than they ever did those of the regime, if they even said anything at all on the massacres in January or February. We are all free to infer what we chose from that. The actions of the regime were condemned at the time.. One doesn't follow the other even if you think you have a right to moderate how and what others post.. A poster might not see a thread or be off site .. Thanks for confirming that no one has..
No, the actions of the regime were not condemned or even mentioned by many posters who now condemn the US relentlessly. I understand why some posters are sensitive on this issue but the archive doesn't lie.
The archive might not lie but some posters just make stuff up 🤷♂️
I think quite a few people have asked you for "evidence"
This..
The 'riots and looting' in Croydon last week didnt even get in the Croydon guardian..
Almost like someone for a change embellished a short story..
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"Tehran has promised "devastating response" Don’t they always? But this could well be the activation of some of the tens of thousands of terrorist cells they have in place all over the western world. I wonder what Trump would do if there was another 9/11? Look for a country weakened by ten plus years of sanctions rather than the country most of the terrorists came from? The latter of course buys lots of weapons .. Are you saying most Islamist terrorists are Jews? Your not making sense? Possibly expand on how you brought Jewish people into it?" Perhaps if you named the country you were eluding to, it would be easier to discuss your point, rather than you hiding it in a veil of plausible deniability. | |||
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" I hope Iran sees sense. They won’t. They have been attacked twice whilst negotiations were going on. They won’t trust Trump for a third time. They are in this until the end & if they die in the process, they become martyrs. Win Win for the regime. If Trump starts bombing civilian infrastructure he becomes a war criminal & the ICC should stick a warrant on him for his arrest, even if it is only symbolic. Perhaps if the international community had arrested the regime leaders for killing 50,000 people this conflict could have been avoided? How? I'll leave that to the many experts on international law who are so quick to condem Israel and the US. After all, you can't have a legal system without enforcement can you ? You really really can have such a system.. Perhaps if the USA led the way and signed up to international protocols like the ICC other's might follow..? Smaller nations need guidance and positive influences.. China, North Korea and Russia etc will always be on the outside but being in their club isnt something the world's policeman should aspire to, rise above such nations and set a higher standard.. Exactly. Why aren’t Israel or the US members of the ICC like the UK is? Probably explains Starmer’s reluctance to back this US/Israeli military action doesn’t it? You’d have thought all the members of the ‘International Rules Based Order’ would be more than happy to set an example to follow. Or the ‘International Rules Based Order’ could in fact be a nebulous phrase rooted in bullshit." I am guessing Starmer, being a former ex lawyer in a big position, asked the attorney general, who is the government top lawyer, if the “preemptive defensive first strike” was in way legal or justifiable under international law …. And after the attorney general stopped laughing he said “nah”! | |||
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"Tehran has promised "devastating response" Don’t they always? But this could well be the activation of some of the tens of thousands of terrorist cells they have in place all over the western world. I wonder what Trump would do if there was another 9/11? Look for a country weakened by ten plus years of sanctions rather than the country most of the terrorists came from? The latter of course buys lots of weapons .. Are you saying most Islamist terrorists are Jews? " Psst… I think he is saying the 9/11 terrorists all came from Saudi Arabia | |||
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"Tehran has promised "devastating response" Don’t they always? But this could well be the activation of some of the tens of thousands of terrorist cells they have in place all over the western world. I wonder what Trump would do if there was another 9/11? Look for a country weakened by ten plus years of sanctions rather than the country most of the terrorists came from? The latter of course buys lots of weapons .. Are you saying most Islamist terrorists are Jews? Your not making sense? Possibly expand on how you brought Jewish people into it? Perhaps if you named the country you were eluding to, it would be easier to discuss your point, rather than you hiding it in a veil of plausible deniability. " 9/11.. Nothing to do with Israel nor were any of the hijackers Jewish.. The vast majority were from Saudi, not Iraq.. Clearer for you.. | |||
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"Tehran has promised "devastating response" Don’t they always? But this could well be the activation of some of the tens of thousands of terrorist cells they have in place all over the western world. I wonder what Trump would do if there was another 9/11? Look for a country weakened by ten plus years of sanctions rather than the country most of the terrorists came from? The latter of course buys lots of weapons .. Are you saying most Islamist terrorists are Jews? Psst… I think he is saying the 9/11 terrorists all came from Saudi Arabia " | |||
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"Israel are in first Petrochemical plant attacked today. " Yep just seen this in the news and immediately it made me think Israel are getting in first to provoke the reaction from Iran so Trump can't back out of his previous threats. That said Iran have been attacking the infrastructure of its neighbours since day one. Presumably that's illegal too | |||
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"Israel are in first Petrochemical plant attacked today. Yep just seen this in the news and immediately it made me think Israel are getting in first to provoke the reaction from Iran so Trump can't back out of his previous threats" I think that’s exactly it. Especially after they couldn’t keep their dick in their pants earlier in the war (South Pars gas field attack) | |||
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"The obese orangeutan is now claiming the "new" leadership of Iran is "much" less radicalised than the old ones lol Climb down begins" So much more less radicalised that they're launching missiles unchecked at other Gulf states.. Proper hippy peaceniks lol | |||
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" That said Iran have been attacking the infrastructure of its neighbours since day one. Presumably that's illegal too" We don't talk about that.🙊 | |||
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" That said Iran have been attacking the infrastructure of its neighbours since day one. Presumably that's illegal too We don't talk about that.🙊" We can talk about why they did but you will probably just deflect away ..  | |||
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" That said Iran have been attacking the infrastructure of its neighbours since day one. Presumably that's illegal too We don't talk about that.🙊 We can talk about why they did but you will probably just deflect away .. "Like talking about Croydon in a thread on Iran | |||
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" I hope Iran sees sense. They won’t. They have been attacked twice whilst negotiations were going on. They won’t trust Trump for a third time. They are in this until the end & if they die in the process, they become martyrs. Win Win for the regime. If Trump starts bombing civilian infrastructure he becomes a war criminal & the ICC should stick a warrant on him for his arrest, even if it is only symbolic. Perhaps if the international community had arrested the regime leaders for killing 50,000 people this conflict could have been avoided? Very odd how those civilians have been so quickly forgotten. Iran also aren’t members of the ICC. Also, going into Iran to arrest these people obviously isn’t easy. The current military operation has killed a lot of the Iranian top brass though anyway has it not? I don’t think anybody is defending the regime, their failings are common knowledge. Do we not expect superior standards from western leaders?" lol havent you been paying attention since the 2nd world war, our leaders in the west dont stick to laws or standards when it comes to dropping bombs thats just the 3rd world and russia those laws and rules apply to, we can do what ever we want, bush and blair aee still walking around and richer than they have ever been, it is s funny you think we have to stick to the rules | |||
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" That said Iran have been attacking the infrastructure of its neighbours since day one. Presumably that's illegal too We don't talk about that.🙊 We can talk about why they did but you will probably just deflect away ..
Like talking about Croydon in a thread on Iran"No that was directly linked to someone else's recognition of your record in making things up.. Of which you have previous.. | |||
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" I hope Iran sees sense. They won’t. They have been attacked twice whilst negotiations were going on. They won’t trust Trump for a third time. They are in this until the end & if they die in the process, they become martyrs. Win Win for the regime. If Trump starts bombing civilian infrastructure he becomes a war criminal & the ICC should stick a warrant on him for his arrest, even if it is only symbolic. Perhaps if the international community had arrested the regime leaders for killing 50,000 people this conflict could have been avoided? Very odd how those civilians have been so quickly forgotten. Very true. But in some people’s eyes those lives are meaningless. No one on here has ever said that.. They haven't, but many have certainly condemned US/Israeli actions far more than they ever did those of the regime, if they even said anything at all on the massacres in January or February. We are all free to infer what we chose from that. The actions of the regime were condemned at the time.. One doesn't follow the other even if you think you have a right to moderate how and what others post.. A poster might not see a thread or be off site .. Thanks for confirming that no one has..
No, the actions of the regime were not condemned or even mentioned by many posters who now condemn the US relentlessly. I understand why some posters are sensitive on this issue but the archive doesn't lie.
The archive might not lie but some posters just make stuff up 🤷♂️
I think quite a few people have asked you for "evidence""Strangely still no response | |||
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"Israel are in first Petrochemical plant attacked today. Yep just seen this in the news and immediately it made me think Israel are getting in first to provoke the reaction from Iran so Trump can't back out of his previous threats I think that’s exactly it. Especially after they couldn’t keep their dick in their pants earlier in the war (South Pars gas field attack)" I think the South Pars area is the same that Israel have just attacked again. Looks like no participant if this war is bothered about international law | |||
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" I hope Iran sees sense. They won’t. They have been attacked twice whilst negotiations were going on. They won’t trust Trump for a third time. They are in this until the end & if they die in the process, they become martyrs. Win Win for the regime. If Trump starts bombing civilian infrastructure he becomes a war criminal & the ICC should stick a warrant on him for his arrest, even if it is only symbolic. Perhaps if the international community had arrested the regime leaders for killing 50,000 people this conflict could have been avoided? Very odd how those civilians have been so quickly forgotten. Iran also aren’t members of the ICC. Also, going into Iran to arrest these people obviously isn’t easy. The current military operation has killed a lot of the Iranian top brass though anyway has it not? I don’t think anybody is defending the regime, their failings are common knowledge. Do we not expect superior standards from western leaders?lol havent you been paying attention since the 2nd world war, our leaders in the west dont stick to laws or standards when it comes to dropping bombs thats just the 3rd world and russia those laws and rules apply to, we can do what ever we want, bush and blair aee still walking around and richer than they have ever been, it is s funny you think we have to stick to the rules" I know we don’t mate & I’ve frequently pointed out western hypocrisy when people have been bleating on and on about Putin for instance. Still, it’s what we should be aspiring to. | |||
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"Israel are in first Petrochemical plant attacked today. Yep just seen this in the news and immediately it made me think Israel are getting in first to provoke the reaction from Iran so Trump can't back out of his previous threats. That said Iran have been attacking the infrastructure of its neighbours since day one. Presumably that's illegal too" Remember Israel has previous for doing this a couple of times recently Remember the negotiations between the US and Hamas for a ceasefire in Gaza, and Israel chose that moment to launch an airstrike on Doha to assassinate the negotiators… Also even at the beginning of this, when Oman said that the US and Iran were very close to a deal…. The very next day was the day Israel launched the initial “preemptive defensive” strike on Iran It’s not in Israeli interest to see a ceasefire… remember Bibi has said he has been wanting this for 40 years! | |||
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"Israel are in first Petrochemical plant attacked today. Yep just seen this in the news and immediately it made me think Israel are getting in first to provoke the reaction from Iran so Trump can't back out of his previous threats. That said Iran have been attacking the infrastructure of its neighbours since day one. Presumably that's illegal too Remember Israel has previous for doing this a couple of times recently Remember the negotiations between the US and Hamas for a ceasefire in Gaza, and Israel chose that moment to launch an airstrike on Doha to assassinate the negotiators… Also even at the beginning of this, when Oman said that the US and Iran were very close to a deal…. The very next day was the day Israel launched the initial “preemptive defensive” strike on Iran It’s not in Israeli interest to see a ceasefire… remember Bibi has said he has been wanting this for 40 years! " Even without any previous it looks to me like an attempt to escalate before the US has chance to back down. Not sure it's worked though this time, as haven't heard of Iran increasing their attacks on infrastructure of their neighbours yet. I think they want to make Trump blink first | |||
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" I hope Iran sees sense. They won’t. They have been attacked twice whilst negotiations were going on. They won’t trust Trump for a third time. They are in this until the end & if they die in the process, they become martyrs. Win Win for the regime. If Trump starts bombing civilian infrastructure he becomes a war criminal & the ICC should stick a warrant on him for his arrest, even if it is only symbolic. Perhaps if the international community had arrested the regime leaders for killing 50,000 people this conflict could have been avoided? Very odd how those civilians have been so quickly forgotten. Very true. But in some people’s eyes those lives are meaningless. No one on here has ever said that.. They haven't, but many have certainly condemned US/Israeli actions far more than they ever did those of the regime, if they even said anything at all on the massacres in January or February. We are all free to infer what we chose from that." You haven't said a word about the 74 mine workers killed in Sudan.. Can I assume that you're in support of these killings then ? | |||
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"Trump’s “victory timeline” claims. Mar 3: "We won the war." Mar 7: "We defeated Iran." Mar 9: "We must attack Iran." Mar 9: "The war is ending almost completely, and very beautifully." Mar 11: “You never like to say too early you won. We won. In ?the first hour it was over.” Mar 12: "We did win, but we haven't won completely yet." Mar 13: "We won the war." Mar 14: "Please help us." Mar 15: "If you don't help us, I will certainly remember it." Mar 16: "Actually, we don't need any help at all." Mar 16: "I was just testing to see who's listening to me." Mar 16: "If NATO doesn't help, they will suffer something very bad." Mar 17: "We neither need nor want NATO's help." Mar 17: "I don't need Congressional approval to withdraw from NATO." Mar 18: "Our allies must cooperate in reopening the Strait of Hormuz." Mar 19: "US allies need to get a grip - step up and help open the Strait of Hormuz." Mar 20: "NATO are cowards." Mar 21: "The Strait of Hormuz must be protected by the countries that use it. We don't use it, we don't need to open it." Mar 22: "This is the last time. I will give Iran 48 hours. Open the strait" Mar 22: "Iran is Dead" Mar 23: "We had very good and productive talks with Iran." Mar 24: "We’re making progress." Mar 25: “They gave us a present and the present arrived today. And it was a very big present worth a tremendous amount of money. I’m not going to tell you what that present is, but it was a very significant prize.” Mar 26: "Make a deal, or we’ll just keep blowing them away." Mar 27: "We don’t have to be there for NATO." Mar 28: No major quote Mar 29: Claimed talks were progressing Mar 30: "Open the Strait of Hormuz immediately, or face devastating consequences." Mar 31: Claimed a deal was "very close" and that Iran would "do the right thing" Apr 1: "We’ll see what happens very soon." Apr 2: Repeated that a deal was likely, while warning of continued strikes if not Apr 3: "Something big is going to happen." Apr 4: Said Iran must comply "immediately" or face further consequences. Apr 5: "Open the fuckin' Strait, you crazy bastards, or you'll be living in Hell - JUST WATCH! Praise be to Allah."" And yet he has still got his fans | |||
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"Trump’s “victory timeline” claims. Mar 3: "We won the war." Mar 7: "We defeated Iran." Mar 9: "We must attack Iran." Mar 9: "The war is ending almost completely, and very beautifully." Mar 11: “You never like to say too early you won. We won. In ?the first hour it was over.” Mar 12: "We did win, but we haven't won completely yet." Mar 13: "We won the war." Mar 14: "Please help us." Mar 15: "If you don't help us, I will certainly remember it." Mar 16: "Actually, we don't need any help at all." Mar 16: "I was just testing to see who's listening to me." Mar 16: "If NATO doesn't help, they will suffer something very bad." Mar 17: "We neither need nor want NATO's help." Mar 17: "I don't need Congressional approval to withdraw from NATO." Mar 18: "Our allies must cooperate in reopening the Strait of Hormuz." Mar 19: "US allies need to get a grip - step up and help open the Strait of Hormuz." Mar 20: "NATO are cowards." Mar 21: "The Strait of Hormuz must be protected by the countries that use it. We don't use it, we don't need to open it." Mar 22: "This is the last time. I will give Iran 48 hours. Open the strait" Mar 22: "Iran is Dead" Mar 23: "We had very good and productive talks with Iran." Mar 24: "We’re making progress." Mar 25: “They gave us a present and the present arrived today. And it was a very big present worth a tremendous amount of money. I’m not going to tell you what that present is, but it was a very significant prize.” Mar 26: "Make a deal, or we’ll just keep blowing them away." Mar 27: "We don’t have to be there for NATO." Mar 28: No major quote Mar 29: Claimed talks were progressing Mar 30: "Open the Strait of Hormuz immediately, or face devastating consequences." Mar 31: Claimed a deal was "very close" and that Iran would "do the right thing" Apr 1: "We’ll see what happens very soon." Apr 2: Repeated that a deal was likely, while warning of continued strikes if not Apr 3: "Something big is going to happen." Apr 4: Said Iran must comply "immediately" or face further consequences. Apr 5: "Open the fuckin' Strait, you crazy bastards, or you'll be living in Hell - JUST WATCH! Praise be to Allah."" Its almost like the great Stanley Kubrick penned this for part of Dr Strangelove.. Then thought, no surely not feasible that a president would say such things.. | |||
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"Trump’s “victory timeline” claims. Mar 3: "We won the war." Mar 7: "We defeated Iran." Mar 9: "We must attack Iran." Mar 9: "The war is ending almost completely, and very beautifully." Mar 11: “You never like to say too early you won. We won. In ?the first hour it was over.” Mar 12: "We did win, but we haven't won completely yet." Mar 13: "We won the war." Mar 14: "Please help us." Mar 15: "If you don't help us, I will certainly remember it." Mar 16: "Actually, we don't need any help at all." Mar 16: "I was just testing to see who's listening to me." Mar 16: "If NATO doesn't help, they will suffer something very bad." Mar 17: "We neither need nor want NATO's help." Mar 17: "I don't need Congressional approval to withdraw from NATO." Mar 18: "Our allies must cooperate in reopening the Strait of Hormuz." Mar 19: "US allies need to get a grip - step up and help open the Strait of Hormuz." Mar 20: "NATO are cowards." Mar 21: "The Strait of Hormuz must be protected by the countries that use it. We don't use it, we don't need to open it." Mar 22: "This is the last time. I will give Iran 48 hours. Open the strait" Mar 22: "Iran is Dead" Mar 23: "We had very good and productive talks with Iran." Mar 24: "We’re making progress." Mar 25: “They gave us a present and the present arrived today. And it was a very big present worth a tremendous amount of money. I’m not going to tell you what that present is, but it was a very significant prize.” Mar 26: "Make a deal, or we’ll just keep blowing them away." Mar 27: "We don’t have to be there for NATO." Mar 28: No major quote Mar 29: Claimed talks were progressing Mar 30: "Open the Strait of Hormuz immediately, or face devastating consequences." Mar 31: Claimed a deal was "very close" and that Iran would "do the right thing" Apr 1: "We’ll see what happens very soon." Apr 2: Repeated that a deal was likely, while warning of continued strikes if not Apr 3: "Something big is going to happen." Apr 4: Said Iran must comply "immediately" or face further consequences. Apr 5: "Open the fuckin' Strait, you crazy bastards, or you'll be living in Hell - JUST WATCH! Praise be to Allah." Its almost like the great Stanley Kubrick penned this for part of Dr Strangelove.. Then thought, no surely not feasible that a president would say such things.." He’s batshit. If you were going to script the countdown to a nuclear war, somebody like Trump would be your US president. | |||
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