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"Croydon is "genteel"? 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Let me guess - Starmer did it." This was not Starmer’s fault. Correct processes were followed. Liz Truss. | |||
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"Croydon is "genteel"? 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Let me guess - Starmer did it. This was not Starmer’s fault. Correct processes were followed. Liz Truss." | |||
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"Shocking scenes from the genteel London suburbs of Clapham and Croydon where large gangs of children celebrated Easter early by looting and trashing multiple shops and forcing residents to lock themselves in. Was this just youthful high jinks got out of hand, or is London becoming an anarchic crime fest ?" And who's going to stop them? Kids can do whatever the fuck they like today and they know it , a system that is now preventing any form of civil obedience and policing because no-one NO ONE, is allowed to say "NO" to them parents, schools,police all have their hands tied. We ha e allowed it to become this way and trust me it's only going to get worse.... But bless them probably a result of (insert bullshit reason to excuse bad behaviour) | |||
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"Shocking scenes from the genteel London suburbs of Clapham and Croydon where large gangs of children celebrated Easter early by looting and trashing multiple shops and forcing residents to lock themselves in. Was this just youthful high jinks got out of hand, or is London becoming an anarchic crime fest ? And who's going to stop them? Kids can do whatever the fuck they like today and they know it , a system that is now preventing any form of civil obedience and policing because no-one NO ONE, is allowed to say "NO" to them parents, schools,police all have their hands tied. We ha e allowed it to become this way and trust me it's only going to get worse.... But bless them probably a result of (insert bullshit reason to excuse bad behaviour)" Yep, cannot discipline anymore, a good clip round the ear never hurt anyone but certainly put you in line | |||
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"Shocking scenes from the genteel London suburbs of Clapham and Croydon where large gangs of children celebrated Easter early by looting and trashing multiple shops and forcing residents to lock themselves in. Was this just youthful high jinks got out of hand, or is London becoming an anarchic crime fest ? And who's going to stop them? Kids can do whatever the fuck they like today and they know it , a system that is now preventing any form of civil obedience and policing because no-one NO ONE, is allowed to say "NO" to them parents, schools,police all have their hands tied. We ha e allowed it to become this way and trust me it's only going to get worse.... But bless them probably a result of (insert bullshit reason to excuse bad behaviour) Yep, cannot discipline anymore, a good clip round the ear never hurt anyone but certainly put you in line" It's not about that ,it's about consequences, there aren't any. Everything is excusable and blamed on anything but the people committing the crimes, it was the fault of: lockdown, the school, parents, adhd, poverty, my cat died, I was upset by something I saw on tik tok..... the excuses are endless and the punishment is zero. It's not about a clip round the earhole it's about knowing if you break the law and act antisocially there will be consequences. | |||
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"Nothing new. The 50s had Teddy boys smashing up dance halls. The 60s had Mods and Rockers smashing up seaside towns The 70s had Skinheads smashing up everything. There's always some new MENACE TO SOCIETY that the press wants you to believe is the end of days." This is an extremely out of touch attitude. | |||
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"Nothing new. The 50s had Teddy boys smashing up dance halls. The 60s had Mods and Rockers smashing up seaside towns The 70s had Skinheads smashing up everything. There's always some new MENACE TO SOCIETY that the press wants you to believe is the end of days. This is an extremely out of touch attitude." Someone will always make excuses unfortunately Brain. | |||
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"Shocking scenes from the genteel London suburbs of Clapham and Croydon where large gangs of children celebrated Easter early by looting and trashing multiple shops and forcing residents to lock themselves in. Was this just youthful high jinks got out of hand, or is London becoming an anarchic crime fest ? And who's going to stop them? Kids can do whatever the fuck they like today and they know it , a system that is now preventing any form of civil obedience and policing because no-one NO ONE, is allowed to say "NO" to them parents, schools,police all have their hands tied. We ha e allowed it to become this way and trust me it's only going to get worse.... But bless them probably a result of (insert bullshit reason to excuse bad behaviour)" I reckon you could find those very same words and sentiments in Roman or Greek history.. And possibly in that time responses along the lines of 'not all'.. | |||
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"Croydon is "genteel"? 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Let me guess - Starmer did it." croydon is a shithole | |||
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"Croydon is "genteel"? 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Let me guess - Starmer did it.croydon is a shithole " My sarcasm sadly went off the other poster's head 🤣 | |||
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"Were we being "sarcastic" about Clapham - which is certainly very genteel these days? Schroedinger's sarcasm maybe?" ✈️ | |||
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"Sheesh. I just can't keep up with this Ninja level of intellect... Although I recall a story about playing chess with a pigeon 🤣🤣🤣" One is beginning to suspect that anyone who refers to Croydon and Claarm as genteel isn't really from London .. | |||
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"Op, I cant find any reports or scenes of 'looting' in Croydon that you claimed..?" I can't believe the Guardian hasn't covered it ! | |||
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"Op, I cant find any reports or scenes of 'looting' in Croydon that you claimed..? I can't believe the Guardian hasn't covered it ! Too middle class .. No one did.. Especially the local mp, Mr gob on a stick philps.. | |||
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"What is the answer, tax 90% of their future benefits? " 🤣🤣 | |||
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"M&S boss blasts Khan and Starmer, says his staff don't believe stats about falling crime. Who'd have thought those two would be telling porkies ? Facts don't care about your feelings | |||
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"National curfew? Your one of them that enjoyed lockdown aren't you? " Heh ? | |||
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"M&S boss blasts Khan and Starmer, says his staff don't believe stats about falling crime. Who'd have thought those two would be telling porkies ? Heh ? | |||
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"M&S boss blasts Khan and Starmer, says his staff don't believe stats about falling crime. Who'd have thought those two would be telling porkies ? A fact remains a fact whether or not someone believes it. If you want to cherry pick instances of crime to pretend that those crimes are now skyrocketing, that's up to you...but the facts remain the facts | |||
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"M&S boss blasts Khan and Starmer, says his staff don't believe stats about falling crime. Who'd have thought those two would be telling porkies ? I think you're confusing police crime figures with facts.🤭 | |||
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"We don't need a national curfew over a few yobs! Both things can be true, crime can be over all coming down but there could be specific outliers like phone theft and robbing shops also I think cyber crime is rising. A lot of this petty crime could be resolved if we were ready to tackle poverty and especially in work poverty." Yeah, all those overweight kids in designer gear are really on the breadline. The line for Greggs maybe ! | |||
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"One M&S employee had ammonia thrown in their face. I'm sure their family cared about their feelings." And those feelings still wouldn't change the fact that crime is declining. | |||
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"One M&S employee had ammonia thrown in their face. I'm sure their family cared about their feelings. And those feelings still wouldn't change the fact that crime is declining." Except shoplifting is not declining. | |||
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"One M&S employee had ammonia thrown in their face. I'm sure their family cared about their feelings. And those feelings still wouldn't change the fact that crime is declining. Except shoplifting is not declining. What's the main driver of shop lifting? | |||
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"One M&S employee had ammonia thrown in their face. I'm sure their family cared about their feelings. And those feelings still wouldn't change the fact that crime is declining. Except shoplifting is not declining. Scumbags | |||
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"One M&S employee had ammonia thrown in their face. I'm sure their family cared about their feelings. And those feelings still wouldn't change the fact that crime is declining. Except shoplifting is not declining. Correct. So now you're citing a crime statistic that you believe even though you just inferred that all those statistics were lies. Explain why you think Starmer and Khan lied about some crime rates and not others. | |||
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"One M&S employee had ammonia thrown in their face. I'm sure their family cared about their feelings. And those feelings still wouldn't change the fact that crime is declining. Except shoplifting is not declining. Facts don't care about your feelings. | |||
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"One M&S employee had ammonia thrown in their face. I'm sure their family cared about their feelings. And those feelings still wouldn't change the fact that crime is declining. Except shoplifting is not declining. I pitty your mind!! Scumbags is just a label not a driver. Rich scumbags don't rob shops, but they are still scumbags. Poverty is normally the driver, it has become a more organised crime of late, however, that doesn't alter the fact that the driver is poverty. Those organised enough are selling on the cheap and obviously making a buck. So it all ties in with poverty!! | |||
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"One M&S employee had ammonia thrown in their face. I'm sure their family cared about their feelings. And those feelings still wouldn't change the fact that crime is declining. Except shoplifting is not declining. In my professional experience, shoplifters I dealt with were habitual drug users, or just didn't want to pay. I didn't deal with a single individual I'd have deemed to be stealing out of necessity. I was a CPS gatekeeper and wouldn't have allowed a single mum stealing nappies to pass the public interest test for example. | |||
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"Nothing new. The 50s had Teddy boys smashing up dance halls. The 60s had Mods and Rockers smashing up seaside towns The 70s had Skinheads smashing up everything. There's always some new MENACE TO SOCIETY that the press wants you to believe is the end of days." We are the Mods | |||
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"If people must use the word 'genteel', how do they expect the place to turn out?" Using certain words to further a narrative is pretty common with certain people here: CRISIS / BLIGHTED / SOARING / EPIDEMIC / NO GO ZONES / FEAR. It's like they are cosplaying Daily Mail copy editors | |||
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"One M&S employee had ammonia thrown in their face. I'm sure their family cared about their feelings. And those feelings still wouldn't change the fact that crime is declining. Except shoplifting is not declining. What drives drug use? Drug dependency isn't a necessity for you but for them it would be | |||
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"Stores around the country are taking drastic measures to deter looting by putting signs saying 'Bookshop' in the window. Satire is funny. What's funnier is when people think it's reality. | |||
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"I do find it strange that people would rather play down the impact of crime, in this case large groups of rampaging youths entering shops and causing absolute carnage, than admit there is a problem because they feel they are arguing against right wing politics. And here we are wondering what has gone wrong in society.... Play down the impacts of crime? Who's done that? He was accusing Kahn and Starmer of lying because someone didn't believe them?? We pointed out that both can be true, overall crime is coming down and specific crimes are rising. No one is playing down the impacts of crime in individuals! | |||
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"I do find it strange that people would rather play down the impact of crime, in this case large groups of rampaging youths entering shops and causing absolute carnage, than admit there is a problem because they feel they are arguing against right wing politics. And here we are wondering what has gone wrong in society.... Way to miss the point. Is it a problem? Yes. Have Police Forces dealt with it effectively? Yes. Is this the beginning of lawless anarchy across the entire country thanks to Kier Starmer and Immigrants and Muslims and the EU? No. You'd be better off wondering what's gone wrong in a society that it has become so easily led by the nose thanks to the mischief making of the right wing press. | |||
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"I do find it strange that people would rather play down the impact of crime, in this case large groups of rampaging youths entering shops and causing absolute carnage, than admit there is a problem because they feel they are arguing against right wing politics. And here we are wondering what has gone wrong in society.... I think we can be pretty confident that the looters and their families are Labour voters. | |||
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"I do find it strange that people would rather play down the impact of crime, in this case large groups of rampaging youths entering shops and causing absolute carnage, than admit there is a problem because they feel they are arguing against right wing politics. And here we are wondering what has gone wrong in society.... 🤣🤣🤣 You'll find that April's Fools Day was a few days ago. | |||
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"I do find it strange that people would rather play down the impact of crime, in this case large groups of rampaging youths entering shops and causing absolute carnage, than admit there is a problem because they feel they are arguing against right wing politics. And here we are wondering what has gone wrong in society.... Imagine making this statement, this boldly!! How the F do you know where they place their x on voting day!! | |||
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"I do find it strange that people would rather play down the impact of crime, in this case large groups of rampaging youths entering shops and causing absolute carnage, than admit there is a problem because they feel they are arguing against right wing politics. And here we are wondering what has gone wrong in society.... Any data on that or is it just fuzzy feels? From what I've seen the archetypal "scumbag" (your description) is more likely to be a Reform voter. Our local sink estate is awash with graffiti'd St George crosses and nylon flags up half way up council lampposts | |||
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"However, the right do hate to talk about the impact of austerity and their poverty wages " I do not mind talking about austerity, if you would like to start a thread on that topic I would contribute. This thread is about copycat crimes caused by rampaging out of control youths. There is no excuse for what they did, and we may need to consider how the future looks as these youths grow up and have many children of their own before the end of the decade. People can blame many things, not enough tax being taken, billionaires, wealth tax and any number of other unrelated things, the simple "facts" because I'm seeing people do like facts, are some parents are not parenting, many youths are copying violent social media trends, the police can't deal with such large numbers of out of control youths due to the delicate balance of policing children. Maybe it is time to ban social media for under 18's, and hold parents accountable for their children's poor behaviour, that might help. | |||
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"I do find it strange that people would rather play down the impact of crime, in this case large groups of rampaging youths entering shops and causing absolute carnage, than admit there is a problem because they feel they are arguing against right wing politics. And here we are wondering what has gone wrong in society.... Because Mr T is partial to muddling a belief with a fact. We know this. | |||
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"I do find it strange that people would rather play down the impact of crime, in this case large groups of rampaging youths entering shops and causing absolute carnage, than admit there is a problem because they feel they are arguing against right wing politics. And here we are wondering what has gone wrong in society.... I imagine an X is the best they can manage to be fair. | |||
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"However, the right do hate to talk about the impact of austerity and their poverty wages I do not mind talking about austerity, if you would like to start a thread on that topic I would contribute. This thread is about copycat crimes caused by rampaging out of control youths. There is no excuse for what they did, and we may need to consider how the future looks as these youths grow up and have many children of their own before the end of the decade. People can blame many things, not enough tax being taken, billionaires, wealth tax and any number of other unrelated things, the simple "facts" because I'm seeing people do like facts, are some parents are not parenting, many youths are copying violent social media trends, the police can't deal with such large numbers of out of control youths due to the delicate balance of policing children. Maybe it is time to ban social media for under 18's, and hold parents accountable for their children's poor behaviour, that might help." It's not an issue! We have 0 insidencies in Cardiff, have you witnessed any? Or are you just getting wrapped up in the drama? | |||
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"I do find it strange that people would rather play down the impact of crime, in this case large groups of rampaging youths entering shops and causing absolute carnage, than admit there is a problem because they feel they are arguing against right wing politics. And here we are wondering what has gone wrong in society.... So thick people vote labour? | |||
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"I do find it strange that people would rather play down the impact of crime, in this case large groups of rampaging youths entering shops and causing absolute carnage, than admit there is a problem because they feel they are arguing against right wing politics. And here we are wondering what has gone wrong in society.... I'm sorry you have to live in such conditions. Actually London is one are where Reform do relatively badly, clearly the criminal population will not vote for anyone who might curb their hobbies. | |||
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"I do find it strange that people would rather play down the impact of crime, in this case large groups of rampaging youths entering shops and causing absolute carnage, than admit there is a problem because they feel they are arguing against right wing politics. And here we are wondering what has gone wrong in society.... Do you have any evidence for not believing the problem was addressed? or is it yet more fuzzy feelings pretending to be facts. | |||
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"However, the right do hate to talk about the impact of austerity and their poverty wages I do not mind talking about austerity, if you would like to start a thread on that topic I would contribute. This thread is about copycat crimes caused by rampaging out of control youths. There is no excuse for what they did, and we may need to consider how the future looks as these youths grow up and have many children of their own before the end of the decade. People can blame many things, not enough tax being taken, billionaires, wealth tax and any number of other unrelated things, the simple "facts" because I'm seeing people do like facts, are some parents are not parenting, many youths are copying violent social media trends, the police can't deal with such large numbers of out of control youths due to the delicate balance of policing children. Maybe it is time to ban social media for under 18's, and hold parents accountable for their children's poor behaviour, that might help. It's not an issue! We have 0 insidencies in Cardiff, have you witnessed any? Or are you just getting wrapped up in the drama?" I like your thinking, if it doesn't happen in Cardiff it can't be happening anywhere else. Ely? | |||
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"I do find it strange that people would rather play down the impact of crime, in this case large groups of rampaging youths entering shops and causing absolute carnage, than admit there is a problem because they feel they are arguing against right wing politics. And here we are wondering what has gone wrong in society.... The police made *two* arrests | |||
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"However, the right do hate to talk about the impact of austerity and their poverty wages I do not mind talking about austerity, if you would like to start a thread on that topic I would contribute. This thread is about copycat crimes caused by rampaging out of control youths. There is no excuse for what they did, and we may need to consider how the future looks as these youths grow up and have many children of their own before the end of the decade. People can blame many things, not enough tax being taken, billionaires, wealth tax and any number of other unrelated things, the simple "facts" because I'm seeing people do like facts, are some parents are not parenting, many youths are copying violent social media trends, the police can't deal with such large numbers of out of control youths due to the delicate balance of policing children. Maybe it is time to ban social media for under 18's, and hold parents accountable for their children's poor behaviour, that might help. It's not an issue! We have 0 insidencies in Cardiff, have you witnessed any? Or are you just getting wrapped up in the drama? I like your thinking, if it doesn't happen in Cardiff it can't be happening anywhere else. Ely? Is Ely in flames? Am I missing out? What I'm saying is, your all very prone to dramatisation! It might have happened in specific areas, however, it isn't a national problem! | |||
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"I do find it strange that people would rather play down the impact of crime, in this case large groups of rampaging youths entering shops and causing absolute carnage, than admit there is a problem because they feel they are arguing against right wing politics. And here we are wondering what has gone wrong in society.... Source? Because the Met data is 12 arrests just in Clapham alone | |||
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"However, the right do hate to talk about the impact of austerity and their poverty wages I do not mind talking about austerity, if you would like to start a thread on that topic I would contribute. This thread is about copycat crimes caused by rampaging out of control youths. There is no excuse for what they did, and we may need to consider how the future looks as these youths grow up and have many children of their own before the end of the decade. People can blame many things, not enough tax being taken, billionaires, wealth tax and any number of other unrelated things, the simple "facts" because I'm seeing people do like facts, are some parents are not parenting, many youths are copying violent social media trends, the police can't deal with such large numbers of out of control youths due to the delicate balance of policing children. Maybe it is time to ban social media for under 18's, and hold parents accountable for their children's poor behaviour, that might help. It's not an issue! We have 0 insidencies in Cardiff, have you witnessed any? Or are you just getting wrapped up in the drama? I like your thinking, if it doesn't happen in Cardiff it can't be happening anywhere else. Ely? the trend of youths being influenced by social media and copycatting is a national problem, maybe not on the scale of Clapham in other areas, but London it is for sure. look up Stratford last year. If you want more, ebike and balaclava crimes are more nationally aligned and the gangs they are all copying. | |||
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"I do find it strange that people would rather play down the impact of crime, in this case large groups of rampaging youths entering shops and causing absolute carnage, than admit there is a problem because they feel they are arguing against right wing politics. And here we are wondering what has gone wrong in society.... Wow 12 arrests! Out of a few hundred people caught on camera! My apologies to Clapham's finest.👍 | |||
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"Indeed, burning people in hotels because of a rumour you heard from Andrew Tate is wild " So they weren't caused by poverty then ? | |||
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"Nothing new. The 50s had Teddy boys smashing up dance halls. The 60s had Mods and Rockers smashing up seaside towns The 70s had Skinheads smashing up everything. There's always some new MENACE TO SOCIETY that the press wants you to believe is the end of days." You mist off those darn cyclists.... | |||
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"Indeed, burning people in hotels because of a rumour you heard from Andrew Tate is wild So they weren't caused by poverty then ? Poverty could be an underlying issue, that is embraced by Farage and Tate to make their followers angry! Like, look foreigners staying in in 5 star hotels getting benefits etc etc. All a load of bollocks obviously, but it's a way of playing on their poverty and in and out groups. When people "feel" better off those base instincts are harder to trigger. So yes, poverty does play a part | |||
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"Social media definitely has a lot to answer for. The Farage riots of 2024 are a case in point." Nigel Farage caused a riot? Surely this is a matter for the police? | |||
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"I do find it strange that people would rather play down the impact of crime, in this case large groups of rampaging youths entering shops and causing absolute carnage, than admit there is a problem because they feel they are arguing against right wing politics. And here we are wondering what has gone wrong in society.... So you admit that you just made some numbers up. | |||
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"Social media definitely has a lot to answer for. The Farage riots of 2024 are a case in point. Nigel Farage caused a riot? Surely this is a matter for the police?" Same police you disparage? | |||
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"I do find it strange that people would rather play down the impact of crime, in this case large groups of rampaging youths entering shops and causing absolute carnage, than admit there is a problem because they feel they are arguing against right wing politics. And here we are wondering what has gone wrong in society.... Nope, they announced two arrests initially, then three, then six, now apparently 12. I'm sure by Christmas they'll have all the scumbags rounded up. Do you have a source for Nigel Farage causing riots as I can't find any evidence of this ? | |||
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"The workhouse could be the solution. Tread mills, sack making, string pulling. Basket making. " Worked so well in the past we eradicated crime | |||
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"I do find it strange that people would rather play down the impact of crime, in this case large groups of rampaging youths entering shops and causing absolute carnage, than admit there is a problem because they feel they are arguing against right wing politics. And here we are wondering what has gone wrong in society.... You mean apart from his reckless videos which caused the riots? Neil Basu, a former counterterrorism chief, has argued that the video undermined trust in the police forces, giving “a false basis for the attacks on the police,” during the riots. "when asked if he had any evidence of the police misleading people Farage responded by stating “I don’t know.” We therefore must conclude that in the original Facebook video, Farage questioned the police’s statement without justification or reasonable motivation. By extension, Farage wrongfully spread the idea that the police could be lying about the incident which likely misinformed a large number of people." I don't recall him ever apologising for his actions but maybe the Farage Fan Club can help us out here... | |||
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"The workhouse could be the solution. Tread mills, sack making, string pulling. Basket making. " | |||
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"I do find it strange that people would rather play down the impact of crime, in this case large groups of rampaging youths entering shops and causing absolute carnage, than admit there is a problem because they feel they are arguing against right wing politics. And here we are wondering what has gone wrong in society.... Yes it's a shame that Basu has never apologised for his false accusations, for which he has a history. It was later confirmed of course that the police withheld the fact that the Southport mass murderer was making ricin and downloading Al Qaeda literature until months later. It was also confirmed that Rubikyana was known to the intelligence services through multiple reports to Prevent, which was another accurate claim made by Farage. I'm pretty sure the Southport riots were provoked by a scumbag mass murder killing three children. | |||
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"I do find it strange that people would rather play down the impact of crime, in this case large groups of rampaging youths entering shops and causing absolute carnage, than admit there is a problem because they feel they are arguing against right wing politics. And here we are wondering what has gone wrong in society.... No it was fuelled by the Farage and his speculation. Nothing was withheld from the public. It might not have come out fast enough for your liking but that is very different. We do have processes and ways of doing things in Britain that keeps us all safe. It turned out to be a Christian nutter from Cardiff that killed those poor girls. Nothing to do asylum seekers so possibly Farage and his alleged rapis mate Tate could take a breath and allow facts to be collected. Not fan the flames of racism and religious intolerance and encourage pogroms in Britain! | |||
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"I'm pretty sure the Southport riots were provoked by a scumbag mass murder killing three children. No it was fuelled by the Farage and his speculation. Nothing was withheld from the public. It might not have come out fast enough for your liking but that is very different. We do have processes and ways of doing things in Britain that keeps us all safe. It turned out to be a Christian nutter from Cardiff that killed those poor girls. Nothing to do asylum seekers so possibly Farage and his alleged rapis mate Tate could take a breath and allow facts to be collected. Not fan the flames of racism and religious intolerance and encourage pogroms in Britain!" That is not an accurate representation of what happened on many levels! The riots followed the murder of three children, which caused outrage and grief amongst the local population and country. Pinning everything on “fuelled by Farage” totally ignores the awful context of the crime itself. | |||
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"I'm pretty sure the Southport riots were provoked by a scumbag mass murder killing three children. No it was fuelled by the Farage and his speculation. Nothing was withheld from the public. It might not have come out fast enough for your liking but that is very different. We do have processes and ways of doing things in Britain that keeps us all safe. It turned out to be a Christian nutter from Cardiff that killed those poor girls. Nothing to do asylum seekers so possibly Farage and his alleged rapis mate Tate could take a breath and allow facts to be collected. Not fan the flames of racism and religious intolerance and encourage pogroms in Britain! That is not an accurate representation of what happened on many levels! The riots followed the murder of three children, which caused outrage and grief amongst the local population and country. Pinning everything on “fuelled by Farage” totally ignores the awful context of the crime itself. " Completely accurate, we've had many awful crimes! Non of which have ended with refugees being burnt in buildings. The only difference is that the racist grifter Farage decided to way in on the say so of an alleged r@pist Andrew Tate. Got mostly everything wrong!! But by then it was too late! And here is about 27% of the UK population signing up for more of that please | |||
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"Farage had posted a video on X on Tuesday in which he said he had “one or two questions” as he speculated about whether the stabbing suspect was being monitored by security services. - It was confirmed at the inquiry into the murders that the killer was indeed known to the security services through the Prevent programme. This information was kept from the victims families for six months despite being known within hours of the murders. “I just wonder whether the truth is being withheld from us. I don’t know the answer to that, but I think it is a fair and legitimate question,” he said. - The police denied the murders had any connection to terrorism despite knowing ricin had been produced and Al Qaeda material viewed. Not only did they keep this from the public for several months, they also didn't tell the families. So Farage asked two questions, both of which turned out to be based in fact. He did not refer to the suspects Nationality or asylum status. "The UK's independent reviewer of terrorism legislation has told BBC Panorama that he believes the quality and quantity of information released by the authorities in the hours after the attack on 29 July 2024 was "inadequate." " It was released during the trial as is perfectly normal. He knew exactly what he was doing, always does, it's blowing the whistle just lightly enough so the dogs set fire to hotels but also just the right side of the line so he can't be blamed. No one's saying the charlatan isn't clever. He is, and that's why his racist followers love him. | |||
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"Farage had posted a video on X on Tuesday in which he said he had “one or two questions” as he speculated about whether the stabbing suspect was being monitored by security services. - It was confirmed at the inquiry into the murders that the killer was indeed known to the security services through the Prevent programme. This information was kept from the victims families for six months despite being known within hours of the murders. “I just wonder whether the truth is being withheld from us. I don’t know the answer to that, but I think it is a fair and legitimate question,” he said. - The police denied the murders had any connection to terrorism despite knowing ricin had been produced and Al Qaeda material viewed. Not only did they keep this from the public for several months, they also didn't tell the families. So Farage asked two questions, both of which turned out to be based in fact. He did not refer to the suspects Nationality or asylum status. "The UK's independent reviewer of terrorism legislation has told BBC Panorama that he believes the quality and quantity of information released by the authorities in the hours after the attack on 29 July 2024 was "inadequate." It was released during the trial as is perfectly normal. He knew exactly what he was doing, always does, it's blowing the whistle just lightly enough so the dogs set fire to hotels but also just the right side of the line so he can't be blamed. No one's saying the charlatan isn't clever. He is, and that's why his racist followers love him." Ah I see...faced his facts you retreat into your own fantasy version of events and personal abuse of people with different opinions. | |||
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"Farage had posted a video on X on Tuesday in which he said he had “one or two questions” as he speculated about whether the stabbing suspect was being monitored by security services. - It was confirmed at the inquiry into the murders that the killer was indeed known to the security services through the Prevent programme. This information was kept from the victims families for six months despite being known within hours of the murders. “I just wonder whether the truth is being withheld from us. I don’t know the answer to that, but I think it is a fair and legitimate question,” he said. - The police denied the murders had any connection to terrorism despite knowing ricin had been produced and Al Qaeda material viewed. Not only did they keep this from the public for several months, they also didn't tell the families. So Farage asked two questions, both of which turned out to be based in fact. He did not refer to the suspects Nationality or asylum status. "The UK's independent reviewer of terrorism legislation has told BBC Panorama that he believes the quality and quantity of information released by the authorities in the hours after the attack on 29 July 2024 was "inadequate." It was released during the trial as is perfectly normal. He knew exactly what he was doing, always does, it's blowing the whistle just lightly enough so the dogs set fire to hotels but also just the right side of the line so he can't be blamed. No one's saying the charlatan isn't clever. He is, and that's why his racist followers love him. Ah I see...faced his facts you retreat into your own fantasy version of events and personal abuse of people with different opinions." What you recited is just facts from the trial that grifters wanted to know at the time!! And nothing more has really changed apart from the fact apparently a person's ethnicity is now relevant to the crime, which boggles my mind. But it is a decision taken by yet another useless female home secretary. So I suppose you've had a small win? To what difference it makes I have no idea. All that's important at that moment is that the police catch the person who committed the crime. Everything else will eventually follow. Going on x and race baiting isn't helping anyone but it might make you feel important for a second. | |||
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"Farage had posted a video on X on Tuesday in which he said he had “one or two questions” as he speculated about whether the stabbing suspect was being monitored by security services. - It was confirmed at the inquiry into the murders that the killer was indeed known to the security services through the Prevent programme. This information was kept from the victims families for six months despite being known within hours of the murders. “I just wonder whether the truth is being withheld from us. I don’t know the answer to that, but I think it is a fair and legitimate question,” he said. - The police denied the murders had any connection to terrorism despite knowing ricin had been produced and Al Qaeda material viewed. Not only did they keep this from the public for several months, they also didn't tell the families. So Farage asked two questions, both of which turned out to be based in fact. He did not refer to the suspects Nationality or asylum status. "The UK's independent reviewer of terrorism legislation has told BBC Panorama that he believes the quality and quantity of information released by the authorities in the hours after the attack on 29 July 2024 was "inadequate." It was released during the trial as is perfectly normal. He knew exactly what he was doing, always does, it's blowing the whistle just lightly enough so the dogs set fire to hotels but also just the right side of the line so he can't be blamed. No one's saying the charlatan isn't clever. He is, and that's why his racist followers love him. Ah I see...faced his facts you retreat into your own fantasy version of events and personal abuse of people with different opinions. What you recited is just facts from the trial that grifters wanted to know at the time!! And nothing more has really changed apart from the fact apparently a person's ethnicity is now relevant to the crime, which boggles my mind. But it is a decision taken by yet another useless female home secretary. So I suppose you've had a small win? To what difference it makes I have no idea. All that's important at that moment is that the police catch the person who committed the crime. Everything else will eventually follow. Going on x and race baiting isn't helping anyone but it might make you feel important for a second." Interesting turn of phrase, ref Home Secretary. ❓ | |||
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"Farage had posted a video on X on Tuesday in which he said he had “one or two questions” as he speculated about whether the stabbing suspect was being monitored by security services. - It was confirmed at the inquiry into the murders that the killer was indeed known to the security services through the Prevent programme. This information was kept from the victims families for six months despite being known within hours of the murders. “I just wonder whether the truth is being withheld from us. I don’t know the answer to that, but I think it is a fair and legitimate question,” he said. - The police denied the murders had any connection to terrorism despite knowing ricin had been produced and Al Qaeda material viewed. Not only did they keep this from the public for several months, they also didn't tell the families. So Farage asked two questions, both of which turned out to be based in fact. He did not refer to the suspects Nationality or asylum status. "The UK's independent reviewer of terrorism legislation has told BBC Panorama that he believes the quality and quantity of information released by the authorities in the hours after the attack on 29 July 2024 was "inadequate." It was released during the trial as is perfectly normal. He knew exactly what he was doing, always does, it's blowing the whistle just lightly enough so the dogs set fire to hotels but also just the right side of the line so he can't be blamed. No one's saying the charlatan isn't clever. He is, and that's why his racist followers love him. Ah I see...faced his facts you retreat into your own fantasy version of events and personal abuse of people with different opinions. What you recited is just facts from the trial that grifters wanted to know at the time!! And nothing more has really changed apart from the fact apparently a person's ethnicity is now relevant to the crime, which boggles my mind. But it is a decision taken by yet another useless female home secretary. So I suppose you've had a small win? To what difference it makes I have no idea. All that's important at that moment is that the police catch the person who committed the crime. Everything else will eventually follow. Going on x and race baiting isn't helping anyone but it might make you feel important for a second. Interesting turn of phrase, ref Home Secretary. ❓" Yeah, I have a theory. Female home secretaries are useless!! From Jacqui the first Shabana the awful! All of them every single one want to be tuff and do vile things! From id cards to windrush! The only decent home secretary I can remember is Sajid Javid! And he didn't need to act like a c... | |||
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"Farage had posted a video on X on Tuesday in which he said he had “one or two questions” as he speculated about whether the stabbing suspect was being monitored by security services. - It was confirmed at the inquiry into the murders that the killer was indeed known to the security services through the Prevent programme. This information was kept from the victims families for six months despite being known within hours of the murders. “I just wonder whether the truth is being withheld from us. I don’t know the answer to that, but I think it is a fair and legitimate question,” he said. - The police denied the murders had any connection to terrorism despite knowing ricin had been produced and Al Qaeda material viewed. Not only did they keep this from the public for several months, they also didn't tell the families. So Farage asked two questions, both of which turned out to be based in fact. He did not refer to the suspects Nationality or asylum status. "The UK's independent reviewer of terrorism legislation has told BBC Panorama that he believes the quality and quantity of information released by the authorities in the hours after the attack on 29 July 2024 was "inadequate." It was released during the trial as is perfectly normal. He knew exactly what he was doing, always does, it's blowing the whistle just lightly enough so the dogs set fire to hotels but also just the right side of the line so he can't be blamed. No one's saying the charlatan isn't clever. He is, and that's why his racist followers love him. Ah I see...faced his facts you retreat into your own fantasy version of events and personal abuse of people with different opinions. What you recited is just facts from the trial that grifters wanted to know at the time!! And nothing more has really changed apart from the fact apparently a person's ethnicity is now relevant to the crime, which boggles my mind. But it is a decision taken by yet another useless female home secretary. So I suppose you've had a small win? To what difference it makes I have no idea. All that's important at that moment is that the police catch the person who committed the crime. Everything else will eventually follow. Going on x and race baiting isn't helping anyone but it might make you feel important for a second. Interesting turn of phrase, ref Home Secretary. ❓" It's a shame women are not up to this important position apparently. Maybe a trans woman would make the grade | |||
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"Farage had posted a video on X on Tuesday in which he said he had “one or two questions” as he speculated about whether the stabbing suspect was being monitored by security services. - It was confirmed at the inquiry into the murders that the killer was indeed known to the security services through the Prevent programme. This information was kept from the victims families for six months despite being known within hours of the murders. “I just wonder whether the truth is being withheld from us. I don’t know the answer to that, but I think it is a fair and legitimate question,” he said. - The police denied the murders had any connection to terrorism despite knowing ricin had been produced and Al Qaeda material viewed. Not only did they keep this from the public for several months, they also didn't tell the families. So Farage asked two questions, both of which turned out to be based in fact. He did not refer to the suspects Nationality or asylum status. "The UK's independent reviewer of terrorism legislation has told BBC Panorama that he believes the quality and quantity of information released by the authorities in the hours after the attack on 29 July 2024 was "inadequate." It was released during the trial as is perfectly normal. He knew exactly what he was doing, always does, it's blowing the whistle just lightly enough so the dogs set fire to hotels but also just the right side of the line so he can't be blamed. No one's saying the charlatan isn't clever. He is, and that's why his racist followers love him. Ah I see...faced his facts you retreat into your own fantasy version of events and personal abuse of people with different opinions. What you recited is just facts from the trial that grifters wanted to know at the time!! And nothing more has really changed apart from the fact apparently a person's ethnicity is now relevant to the crime, which boggles my mind. But it is a decision taken by yet another useless female home secretary. So I suppose you've had a small win? To what difference it makes I have no idea. All that's important at that moment is that the police catch the person who committed the crime. Everything else will eventually follow. Going on x and race baiting isn't helping anyone but it might make you feel important for a second. Interesting turn of phrase, ref Home Secretary. ❓ It's a shame women are not up to this important position apparently. Maybe a trans woman would make the grade " Not sure it would make a difference? It's clearly a culture at the home office that makes women feel they have to be masculine, be a c... About everything! You only have to look at the pathetic pictures of Shabana in her black military..esc outfit. Her rhetoric on migrants, despite migration falling. Something about the culture makes the females of that title loose their shit!! Where as Sajid Javid rationally legalised CPD oil for medical purposes. Even James cleverly seemed rational and calm in the role! | |||
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"Farage had posted a video on X on Tuesday in which he said he had “one or two questions” as he speculated about whether the stabbing suspect was being monitored by security services. - It was confirmed at the inquiry into the murders that the killer was indeed known to the security services through the Prevent programme. This information was kept from the victims families for six months despite being known within hours of the murders. “I just wonder whether the truth is being withheld from us. I don’t know the answer to that, but I think it is a fair and legitimate question,” he said. - The police denied the murders had any connection to terrorism despite knowing ricin had been produced and Al Qaeda material viewed. Not only did they keep this from the public for several months, they also didn't tell the families. So Farage asked two questions, both of which turned out to be based in fact. He did not refer to the suspects Nationality or asylum status. "The UK's independent reviewer of terrorism legislation has told BBC Panorama that he believes the quality and quantity of information released by the authorities in the hours after the attack on 29 July 2024 was "inadequate." It was released during the trial as is perfectly normal. He knew exactly what he was doing, always does, it's blowing the whistle just lightly enough so the dogs set fire to hotels but also just the right side of the line so he can't be blamed. No one's saying the charlatan isn't clever. He is, and that's why his racist followers love him. Ah I see...faced his facts you retreat into your own fantasy version of events and personal abuse of people with different opinions. What you recited is just facts from the trial that grifters wanted to know at the time!! And nothing more has really changed apart from the fact apparently a person's ethnicity is now relevant to the crime, which boggles my mind. But it is a decision taken by yet another useless female home secretary. So I suppose you've had a small win? To what difference it makes I have no idea. All that's important at that moment is that the police catch the person who committed the crime. Everything else will eventually follow. Going on x and race baiting isn't helping anyone but it might make you feel important for a second. Interesting turn of phrase, ref Home Secretary. ❓ It's a shame women are not up to this important position apparently. Maybe a trans woman would make the grade Not sure it would make a difference? It's clearly a culture at the home office that makes women feel they have to be masculine, be a c... About everything! You only have to look at the pathetic pictures of Shabana in her black military..esc outfit. Her rhetoric on migrants, despite migration falling. Something about the culture makes the females of that title loose their shit!! Where as Sajid Javid rationally legalised CPD oil for medical purposes. Even James cleverly seemed rational and calm in the role!" Oh well looks like trans women will have to sit this one out as well. Back to the man's world | |||
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"Farage had posted a video on X on Tuesday in which he said he had “one or two questions” as he speculated about whether the stabbing suspect was being monitored by security services. - It was confirmed at the inquiry into the murders that the killer was indeed known to the security services through the Prevent programme. This information was kept from the victims families for six months despite being known within hours of the murders. “I just wonder whether the truth is being withheld from us. I don’t know the answer to that, but I think it is a fair and legitimate question,” he said. - The police denied the murders had any connection to terrorism despite knowing ricin had been produced and Al Qaeda material viewed. Not only did they keep this from the public for several months, they also didn't tell the families. So Farage asked two questions, both of which turned out to be based in fact. He did not refer to the suspects Nationality or asylum status. "The UK's independent reviewer of terrorism legislation has told BBC Panorama that he believes the quality and quantity of information released by the authorities in the hours after the attack on 29 July 2024 was "inadequate." It was released during the trial as is perfectly normal. He knew exactly what he was doing, always does, it's blowing the whistle just lightly enough so the dogs set fire to hotels but also just the right side of the line so he can't be blamed. No one's saying the charlatan isn't clever. He is, and that's why his racist followers love him. Ah I see...faced his facts you retreat into your own fantasy version of events and personal abuse of people with different opinions. What you recited is just facts from the trial that grifters wanted to know at the time!! And nothing more has really changed apart from the fact apparently a person's ethnicity is now relevant to the crime, which boggles my mind. But it is a decision taken by yet another useless female home secretary. So I suppose you've had a small win? To what difference it makes I have no idea. All that's important at that moment is that the police catch the person who committed the crime. Everything else will eventually follow. Going on x and race baiting isn't helping anyone but it might make you feel important for a second. Interesting turn of phrase, ref Home Secretary. ❓ It's a shame women are not up to this important position apparently. Maybe a trans woman would make the grade Not sure it would make a difference? It's clearly a culture at the home office that makes women feel they have to be masculine, be a c... About everything! You only have to look at the pathetic pictures of Shabana in her black military..esc outfit. Her rhetoric on migrants, despite migration falling. Something about the culture makes the females of that title loose their shit!! Where as Sajid Javid rationally legalised CPD oil for medical purposes. Even James cleverly seemed rational and calm in the role! Oh well looks like trans women will have to sit this one out as well. Back to the man's world " Why are you trying to make this about trans people.....? Trans people exist and they deserve our love and support! Unfortunately home secretaries exist, most have been useless since 2008! And they've happened to be female. It's a culture at the home office that women want to be tuff. And I haven't met one yet that disproves my theory! | |||
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"Farage had posted a video on X on Tuesday in which he said he had “one or two questions” as he speculated about whether the stabbing suspect was being monitored by security services. - It was confirmed at the inquiry into the murders that the killer was indeed known to the security services through the Prevent programme. This information was kept from the victims families for six months despite being known within hours of the murders. “I just wonder whether the truth is being withheld from us. I don’t know the answer to that, but I think it is a fair and legitimate question,” he said. - The police denied the murders had any connection to terrorism despite knowing ricin had been produced and Al Qaeda material viewed. Not only did they keep this from the public for several months, they also didn't tell the families. So Farage asked two questions, both of which turned out to be based in fact. He did not refer to the suspects Nationality or asylum status. "The UK's independent reviewer of terrorism legislation has told BBC Panorama that he believes the quality and quantity of information released by the authorities in the hours after the attack on 29 July 2024 was "inadequate." It was released during the trial as is perfectly normal. He knew exactly what he was doing, always does, it's blowing the whistle just lightly enough so the dogs set fire to hotels but also just the right side of the line so he can't be blamed. No one's saying the charlatan isn't clever. He is, and that's why his racist followers love him. Ah I see...faced his facts you retreat into your own fantasy version of events and personal abuse of people with different opinions. What you recited is just facts from the trial that grifters wanted to know at the time!! And nothing more has really changed apart from the fact apparently a person's ethnicity is now relevant to the crime, which boggles my mind. But it is a decision taken by yet another useless female home secretary. So I suppose you've had a small win? To what difference it makes I have no idea. All that's important at that moment is that the police catch the person who committed the crime. Everything else will eventually follow. Going on x and race baiting isn't helping anyone but it might make you feel important for a second. Interesting turn of phrase, ref Home Secretary. ❓ It's a shame women are not up to this important position apparently. Maybe a trans woman would make the grade Not sure it would make a difference? It's clearly a culture at the home office that makes women feel they have to be masculine, be a c... About everything! You only have to look at the pathetic pictures of Shabana in her black military..esc outfit. Her rhetoric on migrants, despite migration falling. Something about the culture makes the females of that title loose their shit!! Where as Sajid Javid rationally legalised CPD oil for medical purposes. Even James cleverly seemed rational and calm in the role!" This!! | |||
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"Farage had posted a video on X on Tuesday in which he said he had “one or two questions” as he speculated about whether the stabbing suspect was being monitored by security services. - It was confirmed at the inquiry into the murders that the killer was indeed known to the security services through the Prevent programme. This information was kept from the victims families for six months despite being known within hours of the murders. “I just wonder whether the truth is being withheld from us. I don’t know the answer to that, but I think it is a fair and legitimate question,” he said. - The police denied the murders had any connection to terrorism despite knowing ricin had been produced and Al Qaeda material viewed. Not only did they keep this from the public for several months, they also didn't tell the families. So Farage asked two questions, both of which turned out to be based in fact. He did not refer to the suspects Nationality or asylum status. "The UK's independent reviewer of terrorism legislation has told BBC Panorama that he believes the quality and quantity of information released by the authorities in the hours after the attack on 29 July 2024 was "inadequate." It was released during the trial as is perfectly normal. He knew exactly what he was doing, always does, it's blowing the whistle just lightly enough so the dogs set fire to hotels but also just the right side of the line so he can't be blamed. No one's saying the charlatan isn't clever. He is, and that's why his racist followers love him. Ah I see...faced his facts you retreat into your own fantasy version of events and personal abuse of people with different opinions. What you recited is just facts from the trial that grifters wanted to know at the time!! And nothing more has really changed apart from the fact apparently a person's ethnicity is now relevant to the crime, which boggles my mind. But it is a decision taken by yet another useless female home secretary. So I suppose you've had a small win? To what difference it makes I have no idea. All that's important at that moment is that the police catch the person who committed the crime. Everything else will eventually follow. Going on x and race baiting isn't helping anyone but it might make you feel important for a second. Interesting turn of phrase, ref Home Secretary. ❓ It's a shame women are not up to this important position apparently. Maybe a trans woman would make the grade Not sure it would make a difference? It's clearly a culture at the home office that makes women feel they have to be masculine, be a c... About everything! You only have to look at the pathetic pictures of Shabana in her black military..esc outfit. Her rhetoric on migrants, despite migration falling. Something about the culture makes the females of that title loose their shit!! Where as Sajid Javid rationally legalised CPD oil for medical purposes. Even James cleverly seemed rational and calm in the role! Oh well looks like trans women will have to sit this one out as well. Back to the man's world Why are you trying to make this about trans people.....? Trans people exist and they deserve our love and support! Unfortunately home secretaries exist, most have been useless since 2008! And they've happened to be female. It's a culture at the home office that women want to be tuff. And I haven't met one yet that disproves my theory! " I simply offered it up as an alternative to women doing that job. To this suggestion you said you was not sure it would make a difference. My only involvement of trans people was to put them forward for consideration of such an important job | |||
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"Farage had posted a video on X on Tuesday in which he said he had “one or two questions” as he speculated about whether the stabbing suspect was being monitored by security services. - It was confirmed at the inquiry into the murders that the killer was indeed known to the security services through the Prevent programme. This information was kept from the victims families for six months despite being known within hours of the murders. “I just wonder whether the truth is being withheld from us. I don’t know the answer to that, but I think it is a fair and legitimate question,” he said. - The police denied the murders had any connection to terrorism despite knowing ricin had been produced and Al Qaeda material viewed. Not only did they keep this from the public for several months, they also didn't tell the families. So Farage asked two questions, both of which turned out to be based in fact. He did not refer to the suspects Nationality or asylum status. "The UK's independent reviewer of terrorism legislation has told BBC Panorama that he believes the quality and quantity of information released by the authorities in the hours after the attack on 29 July 2024 was "inadequate." It was released during the trial as is perfectly normal. He knew exactly what he was doing, always does, it's blowing the whistle just lightly enough so the dogs set fire to hotels but also just the right side of the line so he can't be blamed. No one's saying the charlatan isn't clever. He is, and that's why his racist followers love him. Ah I see...faced his facts you retreat into your own fantasy version of events and personal abuse of people with different opinions. What you recited is just facts from the trial that grifters wanted to know at the time!! And nothing more has really changed apart from the fact apparently a person's ethnicity is now relevant to the crime, which boggles my mind. But it is a decision taken by yet another useless female home secretary. So I suppose you've had a small win? To what difference it makes I have no idea. All that's important at that moment is that the police catch the person who committed the crime. Everything else will eventually follow. Going on x and race baiting isn't helping anyone but it might make you feel important for a second. Interesting turn of phrase, ref Home Secretary. ❓ It's a shame women are not up to this important position apparently. Maybe a trans woman would make the grade Not sure it would make a difference? It's clearly a culture at the home office that makes women feel they have to be masculine, be a c... About everything! You only have to look at the pathetic pictures of Shabana in her black military..esc outfit. Her rhetoric on migrants, despite migration falling. Something about the culture makes the females of that title loose their shit!! Where as Sajid Javid rationally legalised CPD oil for medical purposes. Even James cleverly seemed rational and calm in the role! Oh well looks like trans women will have to sit this one out as well. Back to the man's world Why are you trying to make this about trans people.....? Trans people exist and they deserve our love and support! Unfortunately home secretaries exist, most have been useless since 2008! And they've happened to be female. It's a culture at the home office that women want to be tuff. And I haven't met one yet that disproves my theory! I simply offered it up as an alternative to women doing that job. To this suggestion you said you was not sure it would make a difference. My only involvement of trans people was to put them forward for consideration of such an important job" You are trans inclusive. | |||
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"And of course anti semitism has soared under Khan. Only last night three men were charged with setting fire to four Jewish owned ambulances - Hamza Iqbal, 20, Rehan Khan, 19, and a 17-year-old dual British and Pakistani national, all from East London. " I’m sure a poster on this forum assured us some while back that the culprits were white. Important to verify facts and be careful of people spreading disinformation. | |||
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"And of course anti semitism has soared under Khan. Only last night three men were charged with setting fire to four Jewish owned ambulances - Hamza Iqbal, 20, Rehan Khan, 19, and a 17-year-old dual British and Pakistani national, all from East London. " Did Khan make a YT video which was so inflammatory it caused them to commit those crimes? No? So there's the difference for ya. Now let's say there was a populist hard-line Islamist called Faisal Narage who posted content that was so antagonistic it led to dozens of synagogues being torched and required hundreds of police to stop people being murdered by angry mobs who believed his lies. Would you be just as hand-wavy about it? Would you deny any culpability by Faisal Narage? Nah- didn't think so. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 | |||
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"And of course anti semitism has soared under Khan. Only last night three men were charged with setting fire to four Jewish owned ambulances - Hamza Iqbal, 20, Rehan Khan, 19, and a 17-year-old dual British and Pakistani national, all from East London. I’m sure a poster on this forum assured us some while back that the culprits were white. Important to verify facts and be careful of people spreading disinformation." Possibly they are of Swedish heritage? | |||
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"And of course anti semitism has soared under Khan. Only last night three men were charged with setting fire to four Jewish owned ambulances - Hamza Iqbal, 20, Rehan Khan, 19, and a 17-year-old dual British and Pakistani national, all from East London. I’m sure a poster on this forum assured us some while back that the culprits were white. Important to verify facts and be careful of people spreading disinformation. Possibly they are of Swedish heritage?" Or from Croydon .. | |||
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"And of course anti semitism has soared under Khan. Only last night three men were charged with setting fire to four Jewish owned ambulances - Hamza Iqbal, 20, Rehan Khan, 19, and a 17-year-old dual British and Pakistani national, all from East London. Did Khan make a YT video which was so inflammatory it caused them to commit those crimes? No? So there's the difference for ya. Now let's say there was a populist hard-line Islamist called Faisal Narage who posted content that was so antagonistic it led to dozens of synagogues being torched and required hundreds of police to stop people being murdered by angry mobs who believed his lies. Would you be just as hand-wavy about it? Would you deny any culpability by Faisal Narage? Nah- didn't think so. 🤣🤣🤣🤣" He is the Mayor of London, a place that has become dangerous for the Jews under his watch. He is every bit responsible for this. | |||
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"Armed police guarding Sir Sadiq Khant left a bag of guns on the pavement where they were found by a member of the public. 'Safest City in the World' The irony cannot be lost on anyone surely. It will be interesting where this goes Danny Nightingale was court marshalled for a 9mm Glock found in his on base locker. | |||
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"Armed police guarding Sir Sadiq Khant left a bag of guns on the pavement where they were found by a member of the public. 'Safest City in the World' MP5 in the bag. Fucking hell " Inside the bag was a sub-machine gun, a pistol, Taser and some ammunition, according to reports. | |||
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"Then you concede that he hasn't made a video so inflammatory it led to riots and burning down of synagogues. Great. KHAN DID IT has become as knee-jerk on this forum as STARMER DID IT, but if you ever took the time to look at the police reports (which according to you are are either lies or gospel depending on what they say), you'd see an increase of those crimes across all urban areas, not just London. Mayors do not directly control who commits hate crimes, nor every operational policing decision. The strongest recent surges appear linked to external shocks and national/international events, not KHAN DID IT. But that doesn't fit your narrative, does it?" Are you talking to yourself ? 🤣 | |||
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"Shocking scenes from the genteel London suburbs of Clapham and Croydon where large gangs of children celebrated Easter early by looting and trashing multiple shops and forcing residents to lock themselves in. Was this just youthful high jinks got out of hand, or is London becoming an anarchic crime fest ? And who's going to stop them? Kids can do whatever the fuck they like today and they know it , a system that is now preventing any form of civil obedience and policing because no-one NO ONE, is allowed to say "NO" to them parents, schools,police all have their hands tied. We ha e allowed it to become this way and trust me it's only going to get worse.... But bless them probably a result of (insert bullshit reason to excuse bad behaviour) Yep, cannot discipline anymore, a good clip round the ear never hurt anyone but certainly put you in line" That leads to abuse, as was given out to kids in the past. No thanks. People who beat kids are failures. | |||
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"Shocking scenes from the genteel London suburbs of Clapham and Croydon where large gangs of children celebrated Easter early by looting and trashing multiple shops and forcing residents to lock themselves in. Was this just youthful high jinks got out of hand, or is London becoming an anarchic crime fest ? And who's going to stop them? Kids can do whatever the fuck they like today and they know it , a system that is now preventing any form of civil obedience and policing because no-one NO ONE, is allowed to say "NO" to them parents, schools,police all have their hands tied. We ha e allowed it to become this way and trust me it's only going to get worse.... But bless them probably a result of (insert bullshit reason to excuse bad behaviour) Yep, cannot discipline anymore, a good clip round the ear never hurt anyone but certainly put you in line That leads to abuse, as was given out to kids in the past. No thanks. People who beat kids are failures. " People who raise kids who loot shops are failures. | |||
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"Shocking scenes from the genteel London suburbs of Clapham and Croydon where large gangs of children celebrated Easter early by looting and trashing multiple shops and forcing residents to lock themselves in. Was this just youthful high jinks got out of hand, or is London becoming an anarchic crime fest ? And who's going to stop them? Kids can do whatever the fuck they like today and they know it , a system that is now preventing any form of civil obedience and policing because no-one NO ONE, is allowed to say "NO" to them parents, schools,police all have their hands tied. We ha e allowed it to become this way and trust me it's only going to get worse.... But bless them probably a result of (insert bullshit reason to excuse bad behaviour) Yep, cannot discipline anymore, a good clip round the ear never hurt anyone but certainly put you in line That leads to abuse, as was given out to kids in the past. No thanks. People who beat kids are failures. People who raise kids who loot shops are failures." As of 2022, there were at least 262,000 lone-parent households with dependent children in London. London holds the highest proportion of single-parent families in the UK, with roughly 1 in 4 families with dependent children headed by a single parent. Nearly 90% of these single-parent families are headed by women Fathers long gone, who is disciplining these feral kids | |||
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"It's just facts! You can try and deflect if you want but crime is usually driven by poverty, we have to talk about the effects austerity has had on our public spaces and services. We have to talk about low wages and why the tax payer has to top up people's wages. You can cherry pick your issues to fit your narrative or you can step back and see how interconnected everything is and we as a society start paying for it." completely correct. Once child tax credits and working tax credits came in for instance, petty crime was less heard of. We didn't need stupid barriers to get in and out of shops or security tags on a piece of steak. Poverty is the backbone of most crimes. | |||
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"Shocking scenes from the genteel London suburbs of Clapham and Croydon where large gangs of children celebrated Easter early by looting and trashing multiple shops and forcing residents to lock themselves in. Was this just youthful high jinks got out of hand, or is London becoming an anarchic crime fest ? And who's going to stop them? Kids can do whatever the fuck they like today and they know it , a system that is now preventing any form of civil obedience and policing because no-one NO ONE, is allowed to say "NO" to them parents, schools,police all have their hands tied. We ha e allowed it to become this way and trust me it's only going to get worse.... But bless them probably a result of (insert bullshit reason to excuse bad behaviour) Yep, cannot discipline anymore, a good clip round the ear never hurt anyone but certainly put you in line That leads to abuse, as was given out to kids in the past. No thanks. People who beat kids are failures. People who raise kids who loot shops are failures." The solve that issue, not beat people like a thug. That a criminal act after all. | |||
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"Shocking scenes from the genteel London suburbs of Clapham and Croydon where large gangs of children celebrated Easter early by looting and trashing multiple shops and forcing residents to lock themselves in. Was this just youthful high jinks got out of hand, or is London becoming an anarchic crime fest ? And who's going to stop them? Kids can do whatever the fuck they like today and they know it , a system that is now preventing any form of civil obedience and policing because no-one NO ONE, is allowed to say "NO" to them parents, schools,police all have their hands tied. We ha e allowed it to become this way and trust me it's only going to get worse.... But bless them probably a result of (insert bullshit reason to excuse bad behaviour) Yep, cannot discipline anymore, a good clip round the ear never hurt anyone but certainly put you in line That leads to abuse, as was given out to kids in the past. No thanks. People who beat kids are failures. People who raise kids who loot shops are failures. As of 2022, there were at least 262,000 lone-parent households with dependent children in London. London holds the highest proportion of single-parent families in the UK, with roughly 1 in 4 families with dependent children headed by a single parent. Nearly 90% of these single-parent families are headed by women Fathers long gone, who is disciplining these feral kids " Nonsense. I see more issue with mother who won't say no to their kids. I often have seen mother's especially say crap like boys will be boys after their sons misbehavior. Never correcting. I don't have a father, has not driven my life choices, I have. | |||
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"Shocking scenes from the genteel London suburbs of Clapham and Croydon where large gangs of children celebrated Easter early by looting and trashing multiple shops and forcing residents to lock themselves in. Was this just youthful high jinks got out of hand, or is London becoming an anarchic crime fest ? And who's going to stop them? Kids can do whatever the fuck they like today and they know it , a system that is now preventing any form of civil obedience and policing because no-one NO ONE, is allowed to say "NO" to them parents, schools,police all have their hands tied. We ha e allowed it to become this way and trust me it's only going to get worse.... But bless them probably a result of (insert bullshit reason to excuse bad behaviour) Yep, cannot discipline anymore, a good clip round the ear never hurt anyone but certainly put you in line That leads to abuse, as was given out to kids in the past. No thanks. People who beat kids are failures. People who raise kids who loot shops are failures. As of 2022, there were at least 262,000 lone-parent households with dependent children in London. London holds the highest proportion of single-parent families in the UK, with roughly 1 in 4 families with dependent children headed by a single parent. Nearly 90% of these single-parent families are headed by women Fathers long gone, who is disciplining these feral kids " David Lammy spoke years ago about the issue of absent fathers in the black community. | |||
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"Farage had posted a video on X on Tuesday in which he said he had “one or two questions” as he speculated about whether the stabbing suspect was being monitored by security services. - It was confirmed at the inquiry into the murders that the killer was indeed known to the security services through the Prevent programme. This information was kept from the victims families for six months despite being known within hours of the murders. “I just wonder whether the truth is being withheld from us. I don’t know the answer to that, but I think it is a fair and legitimate question,” he said. - The police denied the murders had any connection to terrorism despite knowing ricin had been produced and Al Qaeda material viewed. Not only did they keep this from the public for several months, they also didn't tell the families. So Farage asked two questions, both of which turned out to be based in fact. He did not refer to the suspects Nationality or asylum status. "The UK's independent reviewer of terrorism legislation has told BBC Panorama that he believes the quality and quantity of information released by the authorities in the hours after the attack on 29 July 2024 was "inadequate." It was released during the trial as is perfectly normal. He knew exactly what he was doing, always does, it's blowing the whistle just lightly enough so the dogs set fire to hotels but also just the right side of the line so he can't be blamed. No one's saying the charlatan isn't clever. He is, and that's why his racist followers love him. Ah I see...faced his facts you retreat into your own fantasy version of events and personal abuse of people with different opinions. What you recited is just facts from the trial that grifters wanted to know at the time!! And nothing more has really changed apart from the fact apparently a person's ethnicity is now relevant to the crime, which boggles my mind. But it is a decision taken by yet another useless female home secretary. So I suppose you've had a small win? To what difference it makes I have no idea. All that's important at that moment is that the police catch the person who committed the crime. Everything else will eventually follow. Going on x and race baiting isn't helping anyone but it might make you feel important for a second. Interesting turn of phrase, ref Home Secretary. ❓ It's a shame women are not up to this important position apparently. Maybe a trans woman would make the grade Not sure it would make a difference? It's clearly a culture at the home office that makes women feel they have to be masculine, be a c... About everything! You only have to look at the pathetic pictures of Shabana in her black military..esc outfit. Her rhetoric on migrants, despite migration falling. Something about the culture makes the females of that title loose their shit!! Where as Sajid Javid rationally legalised CPD oil for medical purposes. Even James cleverly seemed rational and calm in the role! Oh well looks like trans women will have to sit this one out as well. Back to the man's world Why are you trying to make this about trans people.....? Trans people exist and they deserve our love and support! Unfortunately home secretaries exist, most have been useless since 2008! And they've happened to be female. It's a culture at the home office that women want to be tuff. And I haven't met one yet that disproves my theory! I simply offered it up as an alternative to women doing that job. To this suggestion you said you was not sure it would make a difference. My only involvement of trans people was to put them forward for consideration of such an important job You are trans inclusive. Well I tried to be. After being told that women were no good at the job and as an alternative to men only in the job, I thought why shouldn't a trans woman be given a chance. Unfortunately they were dismissed as well | |||
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"Then you concede that he hasn't made a video so inflammatory it led to riots and burning down of synagogues. Great. KHAN DID IT has become as knee-jerk on this forum as STARMER DID IT, but if you ever took the time to look at the police reports (which according to you are are either lies or gospel depending on what they say), you'd see an increase of those crimes across all urban areas, not just London. Mayors do not directly control who commits hate crimes, nor every operational policing decision. The strongest recent surges appear linked to external shocks and national/international events, not KHAN DID IT. But that doesn't fit your narrative, does it? Are you talking to yourself ? 🤣" Your inability to respond is noted. | |||
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"Armed police guarding Sir Sadiq Khant left a bag of guns on the pavement where they were found by a member of the public. 'Safest City in the World' The irony cannot be lost on anyone surely. It will result in the appropriate disciplinary action. But unless you want to place the blame directly on Khan or Starmer or Muslims or Blacks or Browns or Lefties or Trans or Trade Unions or whoever, then that won't placate the usual shit-stirrers. | |||
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"Why the hell are 12,000 shoplifters being accommodated in prison. If I was slightly nearer having to struggle to look after myself, I might opt for that existence..." 20% of households living in poverty Were they imprisoned for stealing food ? | |||
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"Why the hell are 12,000 shoplifters being accommodated in prison. If I was slightly nearer having to struggle to look after myself, I might opt for that existence..." Because they are mostly serial shoplifting to funding drug habits or stealing to order. | |||
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" I'm pretty sure the Southport riots were provoked by a scumbag mass murder killing three children. " Now tell the class why Farage immediately placed the blame on immigrants in hostels, despite admitting he had absolutely no knowledge. Could it be to appeal to the scumbags that vote for him [gasp] Now go and shift the goals with some other Daily Heil headline you've read 🤣🤣🤣 | |||
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"Shocking scenes from the genteel London suburbs of Clapham and Croydon where large gangs of children celebrated Easter early by looting and trashing multiple shops and forcing residents to lock themselves in. Was this just youthful high jinks got out of hand, or is London becoming an anarchic crime fest ?" I worked in Croydon for 2 years, apart from box park and its tram service, the rest was a shit hole | |||
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"Why the hell are 12,000 shoplifters being accommodated in prison. If I was slightly nearer having to struggle to look after myself, I might opt for that existence... Because they are mostly serial shoplifting to funding drug habits or stealing to order. " Of course they are, these latest escapades are feral scum doing it for Tik Tok likes | |||
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" I'm pretty sure the Southport riots were provoked by a scumbag mass murder killing three children. Now tell the class why Farage immediately placed the blame on immigrants in hostels, despite admitting he had absolutely no knowledge. Could it be to appeal to the scumbags that vote for him [gasp] Now go and shift the goals with some other Daily Heil headline you've read 🤣🤣🤣" Except Farage said nothing like that, which is why you couldn't post a link for that falsehood. You are rather ranting now and just repeating claims which it takes a few seconds to debunk, and making yourself look a little silly in the process. I'm sure you have better ways to spend Easter so enjoy your weekend ! | |||
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" I'm pretty sure the Southport riots were provoked by a scumbag mass murder killing three children. Now tell the class why Farage immediately placed the blame on immigrants in hostels, despite admitting he had absolutely no knowledge. Could it be to appeal to the scumbags that vote for him [gasp] Now go and shift the goals with some other Daily Heil headline you've read 🤣🤣🤣 Except Farage said nothing like that, which is why you couldn't post a link for that falsehood. You are rather ranting now and just repeating claims which it takes a few seconds to debunk, and making yourself look a little silly in the process. I'm sure you have better ways to spend Easter so enjoy your weekend !" Are you talking to yourself again? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 | |||
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" I'm pretty sure the Southport riots were provoked by a scumbag mass murder killing three children. Now tell the class why Farage immediately placed the blame on immigrants in hostels, despite admitting he had absolutely no knowledge. Could it be to appeal to the scumbags that vote for him [gasp] Now go and shift the goals with some other Daily Heil headline you've read 🤣🤣🤣 Except Farage said nothing like that, which is why you couldn't post a link for that falsehood. You are rather ranting now and just repeating claims which it takes a few seconds to debunk, and making yourself look a little silly in the process. I'm sure you have better ways to spend Easter so enjoy your weekend ! Are you talking to yourself again? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣" No link then | |||
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" I'm pretty sure the Southport riots were provoked by a scumbag mass murder killing three children. Now tell the class why Farage immediately placed the blame on immigrants in hostels, despite admitting he had absolutely no knowledge. Could it be to appeal to the scumbags that vote for him [gasp] Now go and shift the goals with some other Daily Heil headline you've read 🤣🤣🤣" Can I ask a simple question, have you watched any of the things you are quoting? | |||
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"Mob breaking into Sports Direct in Oxford St today. Police watching on.🤦♂️" They would be better off in the US candy shops, far better mark ups. | |||
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"Mob breaking into Sports Direct in Oxford St today. Police watching on.🤦♂️ They would be better off in the US candy shops, far better mark ups." Also some interesting goods behind the counter I imagine | |||
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" I'm pretty sure the Southport riots were provoked by a scumbag mass murder killing three children. Now tell the class why Farage immediately placed the blame on immigrants in hostels, despite admitting he had absolutely no knowledge. Could it be to appeal to the scumbags that vote for him [gasp] Now go and shift the goals with some other Daily Heil headline you've read 🤣🤣🤣 Can I ask a simple question, have you watched any of the things you are quoting? " It is very easy to see what Farage said about the Southport murders so I'm bemused that several posters would keep repeating things that are so simple to refute. I understand people wish to attack Farage but doing so with obvious falsehoods surely reflects badly on them rather than Farage? | |||
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"And of course anti semitism has soared under Khan. Only last night three men were charged with setting fire to four Jewish owned ambulances - Hamza Iqbal, 20, Rehan Khan, 19, and a 17-year-old dual British and Pakistani national, all from East London. Did Khan make a YT video which was so inflammatory it caused them to commit those crimes? No? So there's the difference for ya. Now let's say there was a populist hard-line Islamist called Faisal Narage who posted content that was so antagonistic it led to dozens of synagogues being torched and required hundreds of police to stop people being murdered by angry mobs who believed his lies. Would you be just as hand-wavy about it? Would you deny any culpability by Faisal Narage? Nah- didn't think so. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 He is the Mayor of London, a place that has become dangerous for the Jews under his watch. He is every bit responsible for this." He is a politician so will only be responsible when things improve. If or when things get worse, all of a sudden its nothing to do with them. On another note the antisemitism with labour continues as a labour council leader has been reported for posting antisemitic content online. The video, titled “Back Basildon Stop Reform” and featuring the Basildon Labour logo, used Michael Jackson’s 1996 track "They Don’t Care About Us" as its soundtrack. The song sparked controversy on release over lyrics including “Jew me, sue me” and “kick me, k*ke me”, which Jackson later re-recorded to remove. However, the version shared by Mr Callaghan contained the original offensive lyrics. The slurs were displayed in bold text over images of Conservative councillors serving on Basildon Borough Council. Time for SKS to step in maybe | |||
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"And of course anti semitism has soared under Khan. Only last night three men were charged with setting fire to four Jewish owned ambulances - Hamza Iqbal, 20, Rehan Khan, 19, and a 17-year-old dual British and Pakistani national, all from East London. Did Khan make a YT video which was so inflammatory it caused them to commit those crimes? No? So there's the difference for ya. Now let's say there was a populist hard-line Islamist called Faisal Narage who posted content that was so antagonistic it led to dozens of synagogues being torched and required hundreds of police to stop people being murdered by angry mobs who believed his lies. Would you be just as hand-wavy about it? Would you deny any culpability by Faisal Narage? Nah- didn't think so. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 He is the Mayor of London, a place that has become dangerous for the Jews under his watch. He is every bit responsible for this. He is a politician so will only be responsible when things improve. If or when things get worse, all of a sudden its nothing to do with them. On another note the antisemitism with labour continues as a labour council leader has been reported for posting antisemitic content online. The video, titled “Back Basildon Stop Reform” and featuring the Basildon Labour logo, used Michael Jackson’s 1996 track "They Don’t Care About Us" as its soundtrack. The song sparked controversy on release over lyrics including “Jew me, sue me” and “kick me, k*ke me”, which Jackson later re-recorded to remove. However, the version shared by Mr Callaghan contained the original offensive lyrics. The slurs were displayed in bold text over images of Conservative councillors serving on Basildon Borough Council. Time for SKS to step in maybe" 😮😮😮 I thought they would have learned some lessons after the antisemitism issues under Corbyn. Looks like it only got worse. | |||
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