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"I thought franking had been stamped out." Still happens in the US why not in the UK for UK even just to supply gas for electricity. | |||
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"can't see private sector companies pricing oil and gas at below global market prices just because it's produced in the uk, so no it wouldn't make one iota of difference really." Then it needs to be a govoment thing UK energy for cheep UK supply. Or private companies get a licence if supplying UK demand and only excess can be sold on the open market. | |||
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"500% import tariff on all Israeli and USA goods. " What in clouding fule. Inflation is going to jump again as UK is so reliant on over sea energy / fule for shipping and transportation. | |||
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"I thought franking had been stamped out. "I only just got this 👍 | |||
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"23% on wholesale gas 20% on oil, petrol, diesel No bank rate cut Lending pricing increasing More tax rises on a fortnight Could push into recession" So the inflation figer is sure to go up and food and goods will increase as energy cost has increased. | |||
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"23% on wholesale gas 20% on oil, petrol, diesel No bank rate cut Lending pricing increasing More tax rises on a fortnight Could push into recession So the inflation figer is sure to go up and food and goods will increase as energy cost has increased. " Energy and increased finance visits across the £25trn global goods supply chain. Looks unavoidable How long will the war be and how long will it impact inflation ? | |||
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"With the cost of energy going up and the way the UK is exposed again to world markets, it is not time to re look at franking and the North Sea for drilling. This would surly dampen the exposure to the world markets. " No fracking is stupid. And the North Sea gave us nothing in the end. Norway has a huge wealth fund, we handed out money to companies to drill and ended with no wealth. It's time to get green energy not reliant on others or dirty practices. . Wales makes more electricity than it uses and we have no coal power stations or nuclear. So can be done if people grow up and stop with the anti green rhetoric of the far right. Who are using people to fund hedge funds etc. | |||
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"With the cost of energy going up and the way the UK is exposed again to world markets, it is not time to re look at franking and the North Sea for drilling. This would surly dampen the exposure to the world markets. No fracking is stupid. And the North Sea gave us nothing in the end. Norway has a huge wealth fund, we handed out money to companies to drill and ended with no wealth. It's time to get green energy not reliant on others or dirty practices. . Wales makes more electricity than it uses and we have no coal power stations or nuclear. So can be done if people grow up and stop with the anti green rhetoric of the far right. Who are using people to fund hedge funds etc. " 100% agree. If the Tories hadn't blocked the Swansea Bay Tidal Lagoon we'd currently be producing even more energy. | |||
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"With the cost of energy going up and the way the UK is exposed again to world markets, it is not time to re look at franking and the North Sea for drilling. This would surly dampen the exposure to the world markets. No fracking is stupid. And the North Sea gave us nothing in the end. Norway has a huge wealth fund, we handed out money to companies to drill and ended with no wealth. It's time to get green energy not reliant on others or dirty practices. . Wales makes more electricity than it uses and we have no coal power stations or nuclear. So can be done if people grow up and stop with the anti green rhetoric of the far right. Who are using people to fund hedge funds etc. " You start with its time to get green. And end with stop with the anti green rhetoric of the far right. So are you not for green energy. If it was a choice of green or cheep what would you vote for. | |||
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"With the cost of energy going up and the way the UK is exposed again to world markets, it is not time to re look at franking and the North Sea for drilling. This would surly dampen the exposure to the world markets. No fracking is stupid. And the North Sea gave us nothing in the end. Norway has a huge wealth fund, we handed out money to companies to drill and ended with no wealth. It's time to get green energy not reliant on others or dirty practices. . Wales makes more electricity than it uses and we have no coal power stations or nuclear. So can be done if people grow up and stop with the anti green rhetoric of the far right. Who are using people to fund hedge funds etc. You start with its time to get green. And end with stop with the anti green rhetoric of the far right. So are you not for green energy. If it was a choice of green or cheep what would you vote for." I am a lefties, so definitely for green energy. If Wales could sort it's gas reliance out, we would be completely green already. Time England stopped the nonsense and got green, because they blocked green policies and onshore wind farms for a long time not to upset the Tory voter. Wind is not affected by warmongering fools. Oil and gas is. Indy is not being part of the world energy price structure. | |||
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"With the cost of energy going up and the way the UK is exposed again to world markets, it is not time to re look at franking and the North Sea for drilling. This would surly dampen the exposure to the world markets. No fracking is stupid. And the North Sea gave us nothing in the end. Norway has a huge wealth fund, we handed out money to companies to drill and ended with no wealth. It's time to get green energy not reliant on others or dirty practices. . Wales makes more electricity than it uses and we have no coal power stations or nuclear. So can be done if people grow up and stop with the anti green rhetoric of the far right. Who are using people to fund hedge funds etc. You start with its time to get green. And end with stop with the anti green rhetoric of the far right. So are you not for green energy. If it was a choice of green or cheep what would you vote for. I am a lefties, so definitely for green energy. If Wales could sort it's gas reliance out, we would be completely green already. Time England stopped the nonsense and got green, because they blocked green policies and onshore wind farms for a long time not to upset the Tory voter. Wind is not affected by warmongering fools. Oil and gas is. Indy is not being part of the world energy price structure. " The British Isles and Ireland are the windiest places in Europe. The science is solid, the technology is there, we just need to get it connected to the grid, alongside solar and tidal. The fans of fossil fuels seem to forget that clean energy will only get cheaper and fossil fuel will only get more expensive. | |||
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"With the cost of energy going up and the way the UK is exposed again to world markets, it is not time to re look at franking and the North Sea for drilling. This would surly dampen the exposure to the world markets. No fracking is stupid. And the North Sea gave us nothing in the end. Norway has a huge wealth fundto handed out money to companies to drill and ended with no wealth. It's time to get green energy not reliant on others or dirty practices. . Wales makes more electricity than it uses and we have no coal power stations or nuclear. So can be done if people grow up and stop with the anti green rhetoric of the far right. Who are using people to fund hedge funds etc. You start with its time to get green. And end with stop with the anti green rhetoric of the far right. So are you not for green energy. If it was a choice of green or cheep what would you vote for. I am a lefties, so definitely for green energy. If Wales could sort it's gas reliance out, we would be completely green already. Time England stopped the nonsense and got green, because they blocked green policies and onshore wind farms for a long time not to upset the Tory voter. Wind is not affected by warmongering fools. Oil and gas is. Indy is not being part of the world energy price structure. The British Isles and Ireland are the windiest places in Europe. The science is solid, the technology is there, we just need to get it connected to the grid, alongside solar and tidal. The fans of fossil fuels seem to forget that clean energy will only get cheaper and fossil fuel will only get more expensive." So are you sure you can fly on holiday or ship goods across a sea on green energy. Can we even transport goods in lorries on green energy. Most people look at small consumers and not the large consumers. There is a brick company close to me, How really on gas to fire bricks don't know how wind could help them. | |||
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"With the cost of energy going up and the way the UK is exposed again to world markets, it is not time to re look at franking and the North Sea for drilling. This would surly dampen the exposure to the world markets. No fracking is stupid. And the North Sea gave us nothing in the end. Norway has a huge wealth fundto handed out money to companies to drill and ended with no wealth. It's time to get green energy not reliant on others or dirty practices. . Wales makes more electricity than it uses and we have no coal power stations or nuclear. So can be done if people grow up and stop with the anti green rhetoric of the far right. Who are using people to fund hedge funds etc. You start with its time to get green. And end with stop with the anti green rhetoric of the far right. So are you not for green energy. If it was a choice of green or cheep what would you vote for. I am a lefties, so definitely for green energy. If Wales could sort it's gas reliance out, we would be completely green already. Time England stopped the nonsense and got green, because they blocked green policies and onshore wind farms for a long time not to upset the Tory voter. Wind is not affected by warmongering fools. Oil and gas is. Indy is not being part of the world energy price structure. The British Isles and Ireland are the windiest places in Europe. The science is solid, the technology is there, we just need to get it connected to the grid, alongside solar and tidal. The fans of fossil fuels seem to forget that clean energy will only get cheaper and fossil fuel will only get more expensive. So are you sure you can fly on holiday or ship goods across a sea on green energy. Can we even transport goods in lorries on green energy. Most people look at small consumers and not the large consumers. There is a brick company close to me, How really on gas to fire bricks don't know how wind could help them. " Sustainable aviation fuels are the short term future and have already been used successfully. | |||
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"With the cost of energy going up and the way the UK is exposed again to world markets, it is not time to re look at franking and the North Sea for drilling. This would surly dampen the exposure to the world markets. No fracking is stupid. And the North Sea gave us nothing in the end. Norway has a huge wealth fundto handed out money to companies to drill and ended with no wealth. It's time to get green energy not reliant on others or dirty practices. . Wales makes more electricity than it uses and we have no coal power stations or nuclear. So can be done if people grow up and stop with the anti green rhetoric of the far right. Who are using people to fund hedge funds etc. You start with its time to get green. And end with stop with the anti green rhetoric of the far right. So are you not for green energy. If it was a choice of green or cheep what would you vote for. I am a lefties, so definitely for green energy. If Wales could sort it's gas reliance out, we would be completely green already. Time England stopped the nonsense and got green, because they blocked green policies and onshore wind farms for a long time not to upset the Tory voter. Wind is not affected by warmongering fools. Oil and gas is. Indy is not being part of the world energy price structure. The British Isles and Ireland are the windiest places in Europe. The science is solid, the technology is there, we just need to get it connected to the grid, alongside solar and tidal. The fans of fossil fuels seem to forget that clean energy will only get cheaper and fossil fuel will only get more expensive. So are you sure you can fly on holiday or ship goods across a sea on green energy. Can we even transport goods in lorries on green energy. Most people look at small consumers and not the large consumers. There is a brick company close to me, How really on gas to fire bricks don't know how wind could help them. " You don’t have to go abroad on holiday? Trains and green lorries (which will only get better) can transport goods. As for bricks, this may provide answers https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1165642/Michelmersh_Brick_Holdings_-_Deep_Decarbonisation_of_Brick_Manufacturing_-_IFS_Feasibility_Report.pdf | |||
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"I think solar and wind are good ideas but reliant on weather which isn't in our control. It has to be suplemented by something that's reliable, like nuclear energy. But it takes time to build nuclear reactors. I would day drill North Sea for now, while investing in Wind/Solar energy in parallel. Eventually, we need to reach a point where we have a solid nuclear power source, suplemented by wind/solar energy." We’ve known this for decades though. Short-sightedness at the top. | |||
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"With the cost of energy going up and the way the UK is exposed again to world markets, it is not time to re look at franking and the North Sea for drilling. This would surly dampen the exposure to the world markets. " No this is not good for the environment. We must look to renewables. It’s also time to ban cars, trucks, planes, trains etc. People should walk or cycle it is good for their health and the planet, and will reduce the burden on Our NHS. | |||
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"With the cost of energy going up and the way the UK is exposed again to world markets, it is not time to re look at franking and the North Sea for drilling. This would surly dampen the exposure to the world markets. No this is not good for the environment. We must look to renewables. It’s also time to ban cars, trucks, planes, trains etc. People should walk or cycle it is good for their health and the planet, and will reduce the burden on Our NHS." Would you ban ships as well. | |||
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"With the cost of energy going up and the way the UK is exposed again to world markets, it is not time to re look at franking and the North Sea for drilling. This would surly dampen the exposure to the world markets. No this is not good for the environment. We must look to renewables. It’s also time to ban cars, trucks, planes, trains etc. People should walk or cycle it is good for their health and the planet, and will reduce the burden on Our NHS. Would you ban ships as well. " Not sailing ships made from locally produced sustainable materials no. It worked for everyone in the fifteenth century. | |||
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"With the cost of energy going up and the way the UK is exposed again to world markets, it is not time to re look at franking and the North Sea for drilling. This would surly dampen the exposure to the world markets. No this is not good for the environment. We must look to renewables. It’s also time to ban cars, trucks, planes, trains etc. People should walk or cycle it is good for their health and the planet, and will reduce the burden on Our NHS. Would you ban ships as well. Not sailing ships made from locally produced sustainable materials no. It worked for everyone in the fifteenth century." So all gas and oil driven so less food imports more UK made and UK grown. | |||
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"Looking at national grid live 23% of electricity is coming from gas at the moment and 29% from solar 8.8% from wind, 20% is being imported. So almost half is reliant on over sea How can this be replaced quickly " We need to rapidly build more windmills. | |||
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"Looking at national grid live 23% of electricity is coming from gas at the moment and 29% from solar 8.8% from wind, 20% is being imported. So almost half is reliant on over sea How can this be replaced quickly We need to rapidly build more windmills." But there is know wind today unless you had beans and eggs for breakfast. | |||
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"With the cost of energy going up and the way the UK is exposed again to world markets, it is not time to re look at franking and the North Sea for drilling. This would surly dampen the exposure to the world markets. No this is not good for the environment. We must look to renewables. It’s also time to ban cars, trucks, planes, trains etc. People should walk or cycle it is good for their health and the planet, and will reduce the burden on Our NHS. Would you ban ships as well. Not sailing ships made from locally produced sustainable materials no. It worked for everyone in the fifteenth century. So all gas and oil driven so less food imports more UK made and UK grown." The U.K. hasn’t been self sustaining in food since the 19th century. | |||
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"With the cost of energy going up and the way the UK is exposed again to world markets, it is not time to re look at franking and the North Sea for drilling. This would surly dampen the exposure to the world markets. No this is not good for the environment. We must look to renewables. It’s also time to ban cars, trucks, planes, trains etc. People should walk or cycle it is good for their health and the planet, and will reduce the burden on Our NHS." I suppose if there's no cars and trucks on the roads it will assist the police in attending the inevitable riots when food supplies run out.. | |||
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"With the cost of energy going up and the way the UK is exposed again to world markets, it is not time to re look at franking and the North Sea for drilling. This would surly dampen the exposure to the world markets. No this is not good for the environment. We must look to renewables. It’s also time to ban cars, trucks, planes, trains etc. People should walk or cycle it is good for their health and the planet, and will reduce the burden on Our NHS. Would you ban ships as well. Not sailing ships made from locally produced sustainable materials no. It worked for everyone in the fifteenth century." We do not have the resources to be able to build these ships. | |||
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"I think solar and wind are good ideas but reliant on weather which isn't in our control. It has to be suplemented by something that's reliable, like nuclear energy. But it takes time to build nuclear reactors. I would day drill North Sea for now, while investing in Wind/Solar energy in parallel. Eventually, we need to reach a point where we have a solid nuclear power source, suplemented by wind/solar energy. We’ve known this for decades though. Short-sightedness at the top. " Agree 👍 Energy and Food are things we should be self sufficient on. For a long time, countries just assumed that the global free markets would just function well as always and they can buy these things. Now they know why it's not necessarily the case. Then, you have the countries like Germany who deliberately dismantled the nuclear reactors they had. Merkel fucked Germany and even the rest of Europe in numerous ways. | |||
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"With the cost of energy going up and the way the UK is exposed again to world markets, it is not time to re look at franking and the North Sea for drilling. This would surly dampen the exposure to the world markets. No this is not good for the environment. We must look to renewables. It’s also time to ban cars, trucks, planes, trains etc. People should walk or cycle it is good for their health and the planet, and will reduce the burden on Our NHS. I suppose if there's no cars and trucks on the roads it will assist the police in attending the inevitable riots when food supplies run out.." And it will reduce the burden on NHS because people will die without being able to get to the NHS | |||
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"With the cost of energy going up and the way the UK is exposed again to world markets, it is not time to re look at franking and the North Sea for drilling. This would surly dampen the exposure to the world markets. No this is not good for the environment. We must look to renewables. It’s also time to ban cars, trucks, planes, trains etc. People should walk or cycle it is good for their health and the planet, and will reduce the burden on Our NHS. Would you ban ships as well. Not sailing ships made from locally produced sustainable materials no. It worked for everyone in the fifteenth century. We do not have the resources to be able to build these ships. " Standard Modern British “no can do-ism”. | |||
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"With the cost of energy going up and the way the UK is exposed again to world markets, it is not time to re look at franking and the North Sea for drilling. This would surly dampen the exposure to the world markets. No this is not good for the environment. We must look to renewables. It’s also time to ban cars, trucks, planes, trains etc. People should walk or cycle it is good for their health and the planet, and will reduce the burden on Our NHS. Would you ban ships as well. Not sailing ships made from locally produced sustainable materials no. It worked for everyone in the fifteenth century. We do not have the resources to be able to build these ships. Standard Modern British “no can do-ism”." No
Just an acceptance that we cut down the oak etc and we have to import steel..
I mean one does float so we can build a raft i suppose and put the other upon it.. | |||
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"With the cost of energy going up and the way the UK is exposed again to world markets, it is not time to re look at franking and the North Sea for drilling. This would surly dampen the exposure to the world markets. No this is not good for the environment. We must look to renewables. It’s also time to ban cars, trucks, planes, trains etc. People should walk or cycle it is good for their health and the planet, and will reduce the burden on Our NHS. I suppose if there's no cars and trucks on the roads it will assist the police in attending the inevitable riots when food supplies run out.. And it will reduce the burden on NHS because people will die without being able to get to the NHS "Every cloud.. | |||
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"With the cost of energy going up and the way the UK is exposed again to world markets, it is not time to re look at franking and the North Sea for drilling. This would surly dampen the exposure to the world markets. No this is not good for the environment. We must look to renewables. It’s also time to ban cars, trucks, planes, trains etc. People should walk or cycle it is good for their health and the planet, and will reduce the burden on Our NHS. I suppose if there's no cars and trucks on the roads it will assist the police in attending the inevitable riots when food supplies run out.." What you mean the police how are now on electric bikes as there are no cars | |||
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"With the cost of energy going up and the way the UK is exposed again to world markets, it is not time to re look at franking and the North Sea for drilling. This would surly dampen the exposure to the world markets. No this is not good for the environment. We must look to renewables. It’s also time to ban cars, trucks, planes, trains etc. People should walk or cycle it is good for their health and the planet, and will reduce the burden on Our NHS. I suppose if there's no cars and trucks on the roads it will assist the police in attending the inevitable riots when food supplies run out.. What you mean the police how are now on electric bikes as there are no cars " Several forces use them i know, but not all..  | |||
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"With the cost of energy going up and the way the UK is exposed again to world markets, it is not time to re look at franking and the North Sea for drilling. This would surly dampen the exposure to the world markets. No this is not good for the environment. We must look to renewables. It’s also time to ban cars, trucks, planes, trains etc. People should walk or cycle it is good for their health and the planet, and will reduce the burden on Our NHS. I suppose if there's no cars and trucks on the roads it will assist the police in attending the inevitable riots when food supplies run out.. What you mean the police how are now on electric bikes as there are no cars Several forces use them i know, but not all.. "Haven't you seen the new BBC crime drama? Z Bikes. | |||
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"With the cost of energy going up and the way the UK is exposed again to world markets, it is not time to re look at franking and the North Sea for drilling. This would surly dampen the exposure to the world markets. No this is not good for the environment. We must look to renewables. It’s also time to ban cars, trucks, planes, trains etc. People should walk or cycle it is good for their health and the planet, and will reduce the burden on Our NHS. I suppose if there's no cars and trucks on the roads it will assist the police in attending the inevitable riots when food supplies run out.. What you mean the police how are now on electric bikes as there are no cars " I see that Gwent Police bought four tuk tuks for £35k to help them provide support to the public in “safe spaces” if people were feeling “unsafe”. And then sold them two years later for £6k. Presumably the public no longer needed the support. | |||
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"With the cost of energy going up and the way the UK is exposed again to world markets, it is not time to re look at franking and the North Sea for drilling. This would surly dampen the exposure to the world markets. No this is not good for the environment. We must look to renewables. It’s also time to ban cars, trucks, planes, trains etc. People should walk or cycle it is good for their health and the planet, and will reduce the burden on Our NHS. I suppose if there's no cars and trucks on the roads it will assist the police in attending the inevitable riots when food supplies run out.. What you mean the police how are now on electric bikes as there are no cars Several forces use them i know, but not all..
Haven't you seen the new BBC crime drama? Z Bikes.
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"At the moment the UK at 6pm is 50% Reliant on gas " Very different to earlier, when it was daytime and we had over a quarter from solar . | |||
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"At the moment the UK at 6pm is 50% Reliant on gas Very different to earlier, when it was daytime and we had over a quarter from solar . "I agree but how would you run a hospital at night if it was not for inputed gas to generate electricity 🤔. Would you just say to people thay had to waight for a scan until the sun came up. I guess theatre and night clubs could shut that might save power. Oh and turn off streat lighting. | |||
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"At the moment the UK at 6pm is 50% Reliant on gas Very different to earlier, when it was daytime and we had over a quarter from solar .
I agree but how would you run a hospital at night if it was not for inputed gas to generate electricity 🤔.
Would you just say to people thay had to waight for a scan until the sun came up.
I guess theatre and night clubs could shut that might save power. Oh and turn off streat lighting. "We've had too many naysayers who have held us back from developing renewables in the UK. Storage solutions are also needed, to help to manage our energy load. We're where we are now and expensive gas needs to be used, until we become more self sufficient. But beware the naysayers who are against us investing approximately. It shouldn't include the likes of fracking here etc. | |||
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"At the moment the UK at 6pm is 50% Reliant on gas Very different to earlier, when it was daytime and we had over a quarter from solar .
I agree but how would you run a hospital at night if it was not for inputed gas to generate electricity 🤔.
Would you just say to people thay had to waight for a scan until the sun came up.
I guess theatre and night clubs could shut that might save power. Oh and turn off streat lighting. "That pesky sun just keeps going away at night. Still the wind isn't effected by the time of day so hopefully that can contribute | |||
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" I agree but how would you run a hospital at night if it was not for inputed gas to generate electricity 🤔. " ups storage has been a thing for decades | |||
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"Three things when it comes to energy: - cheap - clean - reliable You get to pick two. Unless you're Norway... 'cuz hydro power." - profit - returns - greed is a far more accurate assessment | |||
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" - profit - returns - greed is a far more accurate assessment " Nope. | |||
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"Three things when it comes to energy: - cheap - clean - reliable You get to pick two. Unless you're Norway... 'cuz hydro power. - profit - returns - greed is a far more accurate assessment " Frack Drill Cut subsidies to the renewable cowboys | |||
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"Give the unemployed bicycle generators and they can contribute to society. Stay at home, pedal for a few hours and feed the national grid. Winners all round." One thing you will be very unlikely to do with a bicycle generator is feed the national grid. I have built a very efficient one, using a DC washing machine motor as a generator and any more than about 60 Watts is hard work. About the best application is to charge a leisure battery with it and run 12 Volt items from that. I set it up to generate electricity rather than dissipate the load in the form of friction based heat, which is the typical format for exercise bikes. The secret is to use one with a really heavy flywheel, otherwise the pedalling won't be smooth. One thing it has taught me is that buying electricity involves far less effort. If anything, I wish I had installed a yacht type windmill years ago when they were relatively cheap. They work day and night and where I live on the top of a hill it is hardly ever flat calm. | |||
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" Frack Drill Cut subsidies to the renewable cowboys " Sure, let’s take another leap backwards. Why not? | |||
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"At the moment the UK at 6pm is 50% Reliant on gas Very different to earlier, when it was daytime and we had over a quarter from solar . "That's for electricity use, not total energy use. | |||
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" Frack Drill Cut subsidies to the renewable cowboys Sure, let’s take another leap backwards. Why not? " Power cuts and fuel rationing under our current disastrous energy policies will certainly be a throwback. | |||
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" Frack Drill Cut subsidies to the renewable cowboys Sure, let’s take another leap backwards. Why not? Power cuts and fuel rationing under our current disastrous energy policies will certainly be a throwback." I think that’s mainly down to the war that you support rather than government policy. | |||
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" Frack Drill Cut subsidies to the renewable cowboys Sure, let’s take another leap backwards. Why not? Power cuts and fuel rationing under our current disastrous energy policies will certainly be a throwback. I think that’s mainly down to the war that you support rather than government policy. " The whole point of energy security is being able to withstand inevitable shocks to the market. Fail to prepare, prepare to fail. | |||
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" Frack Drill Cut subsidies to the renewable cowboys Sure, let’s take another leap backwards. Why not? Power cuts and fuel rationing under our current disastrous energy policies will certainly be a throwback. I think that’s mainly down to the war that you support rather than government policy. The whole point of energy security is being able to withstand inevitable shocks to the market. Fail to prepare, prepare to fail." So when was the U.K last self sufficient in energy? Because unless the answer is post-2024, it hampers your argument that our current energy policies are responsible, no? | |||
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" Frack Drill Cut subsidies to the renewable cowboys Sure, let’s take another leap backwards. Why not? Power cuts and fuel rationing under our current disastrous energy policies will certainly be a throwback. I think that’s mainly down to the war that you support rather than government policy. The whole point of energy security is being able to withstand inevitable shocks to the market. Fail to prepare, prepare to fail. So when was the U.K last self sufficient in energy? Because unless the answer is post-2024, it hampers your argument that our current energy policies are responsible, no? " Labour, Conservative and Lib Dems in Govt have all contributed to an appalling long term energy policy but it has incredibly got even worse under Mad Ed Millivolt. Radical changes are needed whoever forms the next Government. | |||
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" I agree but how would you run a hospital at night if it was not for inputed gas to generate electricity 🤔. ups storage has been a thing for decades" That's a large batery system guarantee a hospital power 24/7. And I belive you know that. | |||
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" Frack Drill Cut subsidies to the renewable cowboys Sure, let’s take another leap backwards. Why not? Power cuts and fuel rationing under our current disastrous energy policies will certainly be a throwback. I think that’s mainly down to the war that you support rather than government policy. The whole point of energy security is being able to withstand inevitable shocks to the market. Fail to prepare, prepare to fail. So when was the U.K last self sufficient in energy? Because unless the answer is post-2024, it hampers your argument that our current energy policies are responsible, no? " The British government effectively nationalized the Anglo-Persian Oil Company (later BP) in 1914 by purchasing a 51% controlling stake to secure oil for the Royal Navy. The government maintained a majority stake for decades before fully privatizing the company between 1979 and 1987. | |||
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" Frack Drill Cut subsidies to the renewable cowboys Sure, let’s take another leap backwards. Why not? Power cuts and fuel rationing under our current disastrous energy policies will certainly be a throwback. I think that’s mainly down to the war that you support rather than government policy. The whole point of energy security is being able to withstand inevitable shocks to the market. Fail to prepare, prepare to fail. So when was the U.K last self sufficient in energy? Because unless the answer is post-2024, it hampers your argument that our current energy policies are responsible, no? The British government effectively nationalized the Anglo-Persian Oil Company (later BP) in 1914 by purchasing a 51% controlling stake to secure oil for the Royal Navy. The government maintained a majority stake for decades before fully privatizing the company between 1979 and 1987. " That’s not the same as self sufficiency though. 2004 was the last time we didn’t rely on any imported energy. | |||
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"Sadly, nobody except me thought of discouraging population growth 60 or so years ago. Far more important, after all, to ensure an ever expanding base of people to tax, build houses for and sell things to. Helps a bit, though if people in faraway places kill lots of each other and also send refugees to us so we can sell them things like food and housing." To be fair, UK birth rates have been on a downward trajectory since the baby booms… | |||
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"Sadly, nobody except me thought of discouraging population growth 60 or so years ago. Far more important, after all, to ensure an ever expanding base of people to tax, build houses for and sell things to. Helps a bit, though if people in faraway places kill lots of each other and also send refugees to us so we can sell them things like food and housing. To be fair, UK birth rates have been on a downward trajectory since the baby booms…" If only population growth would do the same! | |||
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"Sadly, nobody except me thought of discouraging population growth 60 or so years ago. Far more important, after all, to ensure an ever expanding base of people to tax, build houses for and sell things to. Helps a bit, though if people in faraway places kill lots of each other and also send refugees to us so we can sell them things like food and housing. To be fair, UK birth rates have been on a downward trajectory since the baby booms…" And yet the population has gone up 10million in 20 years.🤔 | |||
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"The answer to price instability is simple: if you don’t like the volatility then diversify to other energy sources. Specifically those energy sources that you can control. This clearly is not a short term option but it needs to be started now else you will always be beholden to the power of other people. For me the move to a core energy system based around renewables and nuclear has nothing to do with net zero and all that other green stuff. That is noise that stops us having a proper conversation about ebergybusage. It is purely about bringing the majority of our energy usage under our control. We will also need a layer of hydrocarbon based power but whatever we can do to reduce our dependency on it (and the people who control it) then the better off we will all be in the long run." again, if government continues to rely on private sector companies to finance and build our energy production systems and have that energy linked to global gas/oil prices, then i can't see them pricing at below global market prices just because it's produced in the uk. so again, no it wouldn't make one iota of difference really. | |||
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"Sadly, nobody except me thought of discouraging population growth 60 or so years ago. Far more important, after all, to ensure an ever expanding base of people to tax, build houses for and sell things to. Helps a bit, though if people in faraway places kill lots of each other and also send refugees to us so we can sell them things like food and housing. To be fair, UK birth rates have been on a downward trajectory since the baby booms… And yet the population has gone up 10million in 20 years.🤔" Want a pension? Better hope the population doesn’t fall dramatically. | |||
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"Sadly, nobody except me thought of discouraging population growth 60 or so years ago. Far more important, after all, to ensure an ever expanding base of people to tax, build houses for and sell things to. Helps a bit, though if people in faraway places kill lots of each other and also send refugees to us so we can sell them things like food and housing. To be fair, UK birth rates have been on a downward trajectory since the baby booms… And yet the population has gone up 10million in 20 years.🤔 Want a pension? Better hope the population doesn’t fall dramatically. " How about another 50 million, then we can all retire at 30.  | |||
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"Sadly, nobody except me thought of discouraging population growth 60 or so years ago. Far more important, after all, to ensure an ever expanding base of people to tax, build houses for and sell things to. Helps a bit, though if people in faraway places kill lots of each other and also send refugees to us so we can sell them things like food and housing. To be fair, UK birth rates have been on a downward trajectory since the baby booms… And yet the population has gone up 10million in 20 years.🤔 Want a pension? Better hope the population doesn’t fall dramatically. " How dose the population affect investments? If you retirement it solely reliant on government hand outs you in for a poor retirement. | |||
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"Sadly, nobody except me thought of discouraging population growth 60 or so years ago. Far more important, after all, to ensure an ever expanding base of people to tax, build houses for and sell things to. Helps a bit, though if people in faraway places kill lots of each other and also send refugees to us so we can sell them things like food and housing. To be fair, UK birth rates have been on a downward trajectory since the baby booms… And yet the population has gone up 10million in 20 years.🤔 Want a pension? Better hope the population doesn’t fall dramatically. How dose the population affect investments? If you retirement it solely reliant on government hand outs you in for a poor retirement. " I have a very good final salary pension, thanks, but the fact remains that we need a stable workforce to drive the economy (thus including investments) to maintain living standards for all, including pensioners. | |||
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"The answer to price instability is simple: if you don’t like the volatility then diversify to other energy sources. Specifically those energy sources that you can control. This clearly is not a short term option but it needs to be started now else you will always be beholden to the power of other people. For me the move to a core energy system based around renewables and nuclear has nothing to do with net zero and all that other green stuff. That is noise that stops us having a proper conversation about ebergybusage. It is purely about bringing the majority of our energy usage under our control. We will also need a layer of hydrocarbon based power but whatever we can do to reduce our dependency on it (and the people who control it) then the better off we will all be in the long run. again, if government continues to rely on private sector companies to finance and build our energy production systems and have that energy linked to global gas/oil prices, then i can't see them pricing at below global market prices just because it's produced in the uk. so again, no it wouldn't make one iota of difference really." The issue is that uk energy prices are set at the marginal price that clears the market - in times of extreme volatility that is hydrocarbons which ramps up the overall price. We don’t have to price that way. We could set up lower long term base prices for guaranteed load and then use the spot market for the excess. Basically you start to move toward paying for the cost of production rather than the price that clears the market of the majority of energy use. There are many other approaches that could be used. The current market pricing design made very good sense in a non volatile world. It wasn’t a bad approach for most of its life. That life is ending though. | |||
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"Sadly, nobody except me thought of discouraging population growth 60 or so years ago. Far more important, after all, to ensure an ever expanding base of people to tax, build houses for and sell things to. Helps a bit, though if people in faraway places kill lots of each other and also send refugees to us so we can sell them things like food and housing. To be fair, UK birth rates have been on a downward trajectory since the baby booms… And yet the population has gone up 10million in 20 years.🤔 Want a pension? Better hope the population doesn’t fall dramatically. How about another 50 million, then we can all retire at 30. "Unfortunately all those extra millions of people will also require a pension and as you need more workers per pensioner then you would need even more to come in. Also not all that arrive will work and many will claim benefits and still want their pension when they reach the relevant age | |||
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"The answer to price instability is simple: if you don’t like the volatility then diversify to other energy sources. Specifically those energy sources that you can control. This clearly is not a short term option but it needs to be started now else you will always be beholden to the power of other people. For me the move to a core energy system based around renewables and nuclear has nothing to do with net zero and all that other green stuff. That is noise that stops us having a proper conversation about ebergybusage. It is purely about bringing the majority of our energy usage under our control. We will also need a layer of hydrocarbon based power but whatever we can do to reduce our dependency on it (and the people who control it) then the better off we will all be in the long run. again, if government continues to rely on private sector companies to finance and build our energy production systems and have that energy linked to global gas/oil prices, then i can't see them pricing at below global market prices just because it's produced in the uk. so again, no it wouldn't make one iota of difference really. The issue is that uk energy prices are set at the marginal price that clears the market - in times of extreme volatility that is hydrocarbons which ramps up the overall price. We don’t have to price that way. We could set up lower long term base prices for guaranteed load and then use the spot market for the excess. Basically you start to move toward paying for the cost of production rather than the price that clears the market of the majority of energy use. There are many other approaches that could be used. The current market pricing design made very good sense in a non volatile world. It wasn’t a bad approach for most of its life. That life is ending though." that's not going to happen because nobody would invest from the private sector and nobody wants public investment because of all the rightwing media fearmongering bollocks about unionism holding the country to ransom. so folks are basically going to have to STFU and suck it up. | |||
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"The answer to price instability is simple: if you don’t like the volatility then diversify to other energy sources. Specifically those energy sources that you can control. This clearly is not a short term option but it needs to be started now else you will always be beholden to the power of other people. For me the move to a core energy system based around renewables and nuclear has nothing to do with net zero and all that other green stuff. That is noise that stops us having a proper conversation about ebergybusage. It is purely about bringing the majority of our energy usage under our control. We will also need a layer of hydrocarbon based power but whatever we can do to reduce our dependency on it (and the people who control it) then the better off we will all be in the long run." | |||
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"Time to put a barrage across the River Severn, running from the West Country to South Wales (via Flatholm and Steepholm). It has the second largest tidal range in the world, and tides are something no politicians can mess with!" It wouldn't work. You'd only be able to generate power on the incoming tide, so the barrage would only be useful for about 10 hours a day. And without the daily scouring of the Bristol Channel by the tides, it would soon silt up, constraining the area available to the barrage, and limiting the power generated. And think of all the howling and the lawsuits from green groups if you proposed destroying millions of acres of tidal wetlands for a project that's doomed to failure. | |||
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"Looks like Iran is going to get energy instability too The US president has just posted again on Truth Social, (11.53pm UK Saturday) saying that the US will "obliterate" Iran's power plants if the country doesn't open the Strait of Hormuz "without threat" within 48 hours. Here is the post in full: If Iran doesn’t FULLY OPEN, WITHOUT THREAT, the Strait of Hormuz, within 48 HOURS from this exact point in time, the United States of America will hit and obliterate their various POWER PLANTS, STARTING WITH THE BIGGEST ONE FIRST!" Another ranty man child strop or is he seriously considering it with the potential ramifications regionally and further afield.. | |||
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"Iran has threatened to defy trumps deadline Game over for Iranian power stations and refinaries this week is looking likely " Lamp post pissing with global consequences.. Fucking morons. | |||
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"Iran has threatened to defy trumps deadline Game over for Iranian power stations and refinaries this week is looking likely " Is bombing civilian infrastructure (another) war crime. The fat fuck is totally out of his depth now | |||
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" Is bombing civilian infrastructure (another) war crime. " Only when Russia do it. | |||
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"Looks like the markets dont trust Trumps claims.. He's either lying once again or being played once again by the Iranians which has risks.. He needed an off ramp from his latest 180 degree rant but again didnt think through what the consequences of playing the big hard war 'leader' might be.. Out of his depth.. " Boardroom poker played on Iran. Laughable. | |||
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"So should the government help all with another price cap and posably increase national debt. Or just help those most in need. " Treasury raking in £1bn extra vat on fuel The black hole gone quiet recently | |||
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"So should the government help all with another price cap and posably increase national debt. Or just help those most in need. Treasury raking in £1bn extra vat on fuel The black hole gone quiet recently " But the interest on debt is still about £64billion a year. | |||
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"So should the government help all with another price cap and posably increase national debt. Or just help those most in need. " It looks like they are putting in plans to help those in most need but as yet have not said who that includes. Even this option will increase the national debt by the looks of it so no escaping that, regardless of which option is used | |||
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"So should the government help all with another price cap and posably increase national debt. Or just help those most in need. It looks like they are putting in plans to help those in most need but as yet have not said who that includes. Even this option will increase the national debt by the looks of it so no escaping that, regardless of which option is used " If they pay £500 one off payment to the poorest 5 million households that’s about £2.5bn. Less £1bn in extra fuel vat and £44bn in budget tax rises. Should be scope to pay out assistance | |||
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"Would it not be cheaper just to give "the needy" some surplus blankets or draft excluders?" Free membership of Swinger Clubs perhaps ? | |||
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"Surely now it's the time to realise once and for all that we need to stop relying on fossil fuel. Even when Uk oil production was in full swing we imported most of our oil from the volatile middle east" So what would you run a fleat of lorries on oil is used for so meany things. | |||
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"Surely now it's the time to realise once and for all that we need to stop relying on fossil fuel. Even when Uk oil production was in full swing we imported most of our oil from the volatile middle east So what would you run a fleat of lorries on oil is used for so meany things. " We need to get a move on - the harms from global heating are well underway, largely forced from fossil fuels | |||
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"Surely now it's the time to realise once and for all that we need to stop relying on fossil fuel. Even when Uk oil production was in full swing we imported most of our oil from the volatile middle east So what would you run a fleat of lorries on oil is used for so meany things. We need to get a move on - the harms from global heating are well underway, largely forced from fossil fuels " So do you mean start with the biggest fossil fule burning modes of transport od the smallest. Some people live in the country side and need oil or coal for heating and hot water. | |||
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"Surely now it's the time to realise once and for all that we need to stop relying on fossil fuel." Agree. More oil digging is short termism isn’t it really? End of the day, these resources are finite. We should be pulling away from it if we possibly can, as much as we can. | |||
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"Yikes. https://news.sky.com/story/uk-facing-biggest-economic-hit-from-iran-war-of-any-major-country-13524511 It seems that the US will benefit from this war, but the UK will lose out more than anyone else (developed)." As usual. Someone needs to work out a) why the UK government (of all political hues) hasn’t prepared the country for another inevitable shock and b) what is the US doing that the UK isn’t. | |||
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"Yikes. https://news.sky.com/story/uk-facing-biggest-economic-hit-from-iran-war-of-any-major-country-13524511 It seems that the US will benefit from this war, but the UK will lose out more than anyone else (developed)." Fail to prepare, prepare to fail. | |||
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" what is the US doing that the UK isn’t." Producing oil. | |||
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"Yikes. https://news.sky.com/story/uk-facing-biggest-economic-hit-from-iran-war-of-any-major-country-13524511 It seems that the US will benefit from this war, but the UK will lose out more than anyone else (developed). As usual. Someone needs to work out a) why the UK government (of all political hues) hasn’t prepared the country for another inevitable shock and b) what is the US doing that the UK isn’t." One huge part is that the US went heavily for franking while our Nimby Govts blocked it. | |||
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"Yikes. https://news.sky.com/story/uk-facing-biggest-economic-hit-from-iran-war-of-any-major-country-13524511 It seems that the US will benefit from this war, but the UK will lose out more than anyone else (developed). As usual. Someone needs to work out a) why the UK government (of all political hues) hasn’t prepared the country for another inevitable shock and b) what is the US doing that the UK isn’t. One huge part is that the US went heavily for franking while our Nimby Govts blocked it." Would you be happy with fracking in your locality ? | |||
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"Yikes. https://news.sky.com/story/uk-facing-biggest-economic-hit-from-iran-war-of-any-major-country-13524511 It seems that the US will benefit from this war, but the UK will lose out more than anyone else (developed). As usual. Someone needs to work out a) why the UK government (of all political hues) hasn’t prepared the country for another inevitable shock and b) what is the US doing that the UK isn’t. One huge part is that the US went heavily for franking while our Nimby Govts blocked it. Would you be happy with fracking in your locality ?" I mostly live in Germany so wouldn't bother me. | |||
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"Yikes. https://news.sky.com/story/uk-facing-biggest-economic-hit-from-iran-war-of-any-major-country-13524511 It seems that the US will benefit from this war, but the UK will lose out more than anyone else (developed). As usual. Someone needs to work out a) why the UK government (of all political hues) hasn’t prepared the country for another inevitable shock and b) what is the US doing that the UK isn’t. One huge part is that the US went heavily for franking while our Nimby Govts blocked it. Would you be happy with fracking in your locality ?" Yes so long as the gas was used for uk power and the cost of electricity was reduced. | |||
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" what is the US doing that the UK isn’t. Producing oil." The correct answer is often overlooked | |||
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"What I want to know is which Councils in the UK are/were buying Iranian oil? ..." Don't know about councils but my local fish and chip shop is putting prices up due to oil costs increasing... | |||
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"Yikes. https://news.sky.com/story/uk-facing-biggest-economic-hit-from-iran-war-of-any-major-country-13524511 It seems that the US will benefit from this war, but the UK will lose out more than anyone else (developed). As usual. Someone needs to work out a) why the UK government (of all political hues) hasn’t prepared the country for another inevitable shock and b) what is the US doing that the UK isn’t. One huge part is that the US went heavily for franking while our Nimby Govts blocked it." . Some major differences between the US and the UK -the US have substantially more oil reserves, over a much bigger area,than the UK. We have very little, in comparison and granted licenses over the last few years have only managed to extract a few days worth of oil. Fracking has also impacted our geology. It's likely to have negative impact on our dwindling water supply. In any event, the limited drops of oil left here, would be sold on international markets,at global prices We should free our retail electricity prices from peak gas prices - it's been a policy not to. | |||
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"Need to bring back the industries and support them. We need to become self sufficient and stop relying on imports." | |||
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"The best thing we can do is invest in renewables so we aren't at the mercy of the oil market for energy. Look at Spain, they've insulated themselves and won't be as adversely affected because they have invested in renewables. And call the war and trump for what they are. Our dependency on oil and Brexit has left us more vulnerable and weaker to the markets and Trump." It’s a shame that Miliband’s extremism will have such a negative impact on environmental protection. Labour will get kicked out and net zero will be scrapped. There is broad support across all party voters, including Labour, for a more realistic energy policy. But Miliband has strapped himself to the net zero sinking ship and has nowhere to go. | |||
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"The best thing we can do is invest in renewables so we aren't at the mercy of the oil market for energy. Look at Spain, they've insulated themselves and won't be as adversely affected because they have invested in renewables. And call the war and trump for what they are. Our dependency on oil and Brexit has left us more vulnerable and weaker to the markets and Trump. It’s a shame that Miliband’s extremism will have such a negative impact on environmental protection. Labour will get kicked out and net zero will be scrapped. There is broad support across all party voters, including Labour, for a more realistic energy policy. But Miliband has strapped himself to the net zero sinking ship and has nowhere to go. " What evidence do you have for that? Ed miliband is the only minister getting anything right! And from Starmers speech yesterday he is fully committed to getting us off oil and on to Millinands project! You've got another 2 - 3 years yet!! | |||
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"The best thing we can do is invest in renewables so we aren't at the mercy of the oil market for energy. Look at Spain, they've insulated themselves and won't be as adversely affected because they have invested in renewables. And call the war and trump for what they are. Our dependency on oil and Brexit has left us more vulnerable and weaker to the markets and Trump. It’s a shame that Miliband’s extremism will have such a negative impact on environmental protection. Labour will get kicked out and net zero will be scrapped. There is broad support across all party voters, including Labour, for a more realistic energy policy. But Miliband has strapped himself to the net zero sinking ship and has nowhere to go. What evidence do you have for that? Ed miliband is the only minister getting anything right! And from Starmers speech yesterday he is fully committed to getting us off oil and on to Millinands project! You've got another 2 - 3 years yet!!" I’m sure the Tories and Reform will be delighted if Miliband carries on as is. I’m sure he is very popular with Labour Party members. As for Spain being an ab exemplar of successful energy supply didn’t its grid collapse quite recently with dozens or hundreds dead as a result? I’m sure it’s just a matter of time before we get blackouts here, which will be the end of whichever party is in government when it happens. | |||
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"The best thing we can do is invest in renewables so we aren't at the mercy of the oil market for energy. Look at Spain, they've insulated themselves and won't be as adversely affected because they have invested in renewables. And call the war and trump for what they are. Our dependency on oil and Brexit has left us more vulnerable and weaker to the markets and Trump. It’s a shame that Miliband’s extremism will have such a negative impact on environmental protection. Labour will get kicked out and net zero will be scrapped. There is broad support across all party voters, including Labour, for a more realistic energy policy. But Miliband has strapped himself to the net zero sinking ship and has nowhere to go. What evidence do you have for that? Ed miliband is the only minister getting anything right! And from Starmers speech yesterday he is fully committed to getting us off oil and on to Millinands project! You've got another 2 - 3 years yet!! I’m sure the Tories and Reform will be delighted if Miliband carries on as is. I’m sure he is very popular with Labour Party members. As for Spain being an ab exemplar of successful energy supply didn’t its grid collapse quite recently with dozens or hundreds dead as a result? I’m sure it’s just a matter of time before we get blackouts here, which will be the end of whichever party is in government when it happens." Why? Support batteries are getting ever better. We have daylight, wind and water why wouldn't you harness the ability? Tories are 18% in polls Reform around 26% That's a total of 44% hardly a ringing endorsement for isolationist, racist views! | |||
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"The best thing we can do is invest in renewables so we aren't at the mercy of the oil market for energy. Look at Spain, they've insulated themselves and won't be as adversely affected because they have invested in renewables. And call the war and trump for what they are. Our dependency on oil and Brexit has left us more vulnerable and weaker to the markets and Trump. It’s a shame that Miliband’s extremism will have such a negative impact on environmental protection. Labour will get kicked out and net zero will be scrapped. There is broad support across all party voters, including Labour, for a more realistic energy policy. But Miliband has strapped himself to the net zero sinking ship and has nowhere to go. What evidence do you have for that? Ed miliband is the only minister getting anything right! And from Starmers speech yesterday he is fully committed to getting us off oil and on to Millinands project! You've got another 2 - 3 years yet!! I’m sure the Tories and Reform will be delighted if Miliband carries on as is. I’m sure he is very popular with Labour Party members. As for Spain being an ab exemplar of successful energy supply didn’t its grid collapse quite recently with dozens or hundreds dead as a result? I’m sure it’s just a matter of time before we get blackouts here, which will be the end of whichever party is in government when it happens. Why? Support batteries are getting ever better. We have daylight, wind and water why wouldn't you harness the ability? Tories are 18% in polls Reform around 26% That's a total of 44% hardly a ringing endorsement for isolationist, racist views!" The latest Westminster polling has Reform on 30 and Tories on 21. One of the biggest problems Labour and its members have is that they think their policies are widely popular in the country and that they are somehow a representative sample. They simply aren’t. Either Labour gets real or they are heading for wipeout. As you say they have time. I just don’t think their internal party dynamics will allow them to make the necessary changes. Come back to me after the May elections with an update. | |||
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"The best thing we can do is invest in renewables so we aren't at the mercy of the oil market for energy. Look at Spain, they've insulated themselves and won't be as adversely affected because they have invested in renewables. And call the war and trump for what they are. Our dependency on oil and Brexit has left us more vulnerable and weaker to the markets and Trump. It’s a shame that Miliband’s extremism will have such a negative impact on environmental protection. Labour will get kicked out and net zero will be scrapped. There is broad support across all party voters, including Labour, for a more realistic energy policy. But Miliband has strapped himself to the net zero sinking ship and has nowhere to go. What evidence do you have for that? Ed miliband is the only minister getting anything right! And from Starmers speech yesterday he is fully committed to getting us off oil and on to Millinands project! You've got another 2 - 3 years yet!! I’m sure the Tories and Reform will be delighted if Miliband carries on as is. I’m sure he is very popular with Labour Party members. As for Spain being an ab exemplar of successful energy supply didn’t its grid collapse quite recently with dozens or hundreds dead as a result? I’m sure it’s just a matter of time before we get blackouts here, which will be the end of whichever party is in government when it happens. Why? Support batteries are getting ever better. We have daylight, wind and water why wouldn't you harness the ability? Tories are 18% in polls Reform around 26% That's a total of 44% hardly a ringing endorsement for isolationist, racist views! The latest Westminster polling has Reform on 30 and Tories on 21. One of the biggest problems Labour and its members have is that they think their policies are widely popular in the country and that they are somehow a representative sample. They simply aren’t. Either Labour gets real or they are heading for wipeout. As you say they have time. I just don’t think their internal party dynamics will allow them to make the necessary changes. Come back to me after the May elections with an update." What makes you think I support labour? I hope they get wiped out in May! Plaid and Green coalition in Wales looks great! | |||
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"Tories are 18% in polls Reform around 26% That's a total of 44% hardly a ringing endorsement for isolationist, racist views! Since neither the Tories nor Reform support isolationism or racism, it's even less of an endorsement than you think." Mate it's either racism with an old white man accused of racism and antisemitism by his own school attendees or racism, transphobia and climate denial led by a black woman! | |||
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"Tories are 18% in polls Reform around 26% That's a total of 44% hardly a ringing endorsement for isolationist, racist views! Since neither the Tories nor Reform support isolationism or racism, it's even less of an endorsement than you think. Mate it's either racism with an old white man accused of racism and antisemitism by his own school attendees or racism, transphobia and climate denial led by a black woman!" 🤦♂️ | |||
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"Tories are 18% in polls Reform around 26% That's a total of 44% hardly a ringing endorsement for isolationist, racist views!" "Since neither the Tories nor Reform support isolationism or racism, it's even less of an endorsement than you think." "Mate it's either racism with an old white man accused of racism and antisemitism by his own school attendees or racism, transphobia and climate denial led by a black woman!" I see you've dropped isolationism, and pivoted to transphobia and climate denial. Neither of those are party policy either. Just because the leader has been accused of past racist behaviour doesn't mean that the whole party is definitely racist. If it did that would mean that the whole Green party are fraudsters. | |||
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"Tories are 18% in polls Reform around 26% That's a total of 44% hardly a ringing endorsement for isolationist, racist views! Since neither the Tories nor Reform support isolationism or racism, it's even less of an endorsement than you think. Mate it's either racism with an old white man accused of racism and antisemitism by his own school attendees or racism, transphobia and climate denial led by a black woman! 🤦♂️" Not a day goes by where a member doesn't leave one party to go to the next because either the conservatives weren't racist enough, or reform weren't antisemitic enough so we no go Rupert Lowe's racist party or Lawrence fox racists party. The right are a hot mess of racism at the moment!! And I'm here for it. What ever happened to the good right wingers? Amber Rudd David Gauke Dominic Grieve Ruth Davidson Andy Street You know thoughtful, considerate one Tories | |||
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"Tories are 18% in polls Reform around 26% That's a total of 44% hardly a ringing endorsement for isolationist, racist views! Since neither the Tories nor Reform support isolationism or racism, it's even less of an endorsement than you think. Mate it's either racism with an old white man accused of racism and antisemitism by his own school attendees or racism, transphobia and climate denial led by a black woman! I see you've dropped isolationism, and pivoted to transphobia and climate denial. Neither of those are party policy either. Just because the leader has been accused of past racist behaviour doesn't mean that the whole party is definitely racist. If it did that would mean that the whole Green party are fraudsters." It is at an alarming rate how many people leave or sacked for racism though, no? 3 from their lists in Wales alone since Monday!! Especially when the head of the party is accused of racism by no less than at least 35 of compatriots. Shall we do a deep dive in comments made by 30p Lee, Suella the cruel, honest bob doesn't like browns in Birmingham, whatever is it about this party that attracts racists, isolationists and all round wrong uns? Remember when Farage said he was the same movement as the accused r@pist as Andrew Tate but not islamaphoic enough for Tommy Robinson or Elon ketamin musk | |||
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"Tories are 18% in polls Reform around 26% That's a total of 44% hardly a ringing endorsement for isolationist, racist views! Since neither the Tories nor Reform support isolationism or racism, it's even less of an endorsement than you think. Mate it's either racism with an old white man accused of racism and antisemitism by his own school attendees or racism, transphobia and climate denial led by a black woman! I see you've dropped isolationism, and pivoted to transphobia and climate denial. Neither of those are party policy either. Just because the leader has been accused of past racist behaviour doesn't mean that the whole party is definitely racist. If it did that would mean that the whole Green party are fraudsters. It is at an alarming rate how many people leave or sacked for racism though, no? 3 from their lists in Wales alone since Monday!! Especially when the head of the party is accused of racism by no less than at least 35 of compatriots. Shall we do a deep dive in comments made by 30p Lee, Suella the cruel, honest bob doesn't like browns in Birmingham, whatever is it about this party that attracts racists, isolationists and all round wrong uns? Remember when Farage said he was the same movement as the accused r@pist as Andrew Tate but not islamaphoic enough for Tommy Robinson or Elon ketamin musk " What’s extraordinary is that the British Left, which is absolutely rife with antisemitism (I see another Green Party candidate has quit today after claiming that Hatzola was an “inside job”) continues to pursue the “everyone who disagrees with me is racist” line. It’s obviously pure projection, but you think at some point they would either: 1. Muster up enough intelligence to look in the mirror and think to themselves “calling everyone else racist just isn’t working, we need to try something else”; or 2. Maybe they have worked out 1. but they simply have no other strategy so they keep on with 1 regardless. | |||
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"Tories are 18% in polls Reform around 26% That's a total of 44% hardly a ringing endorsement for isolationist, racist views! Since neither the Tories nor Reform support isolationism or racism, it's even less of an endorsement than you think. Mate it's either racism with an old white man accused of racism and antisemitism by his own school attendees or racism, transphobia and climate denial led by a black woman! I see you've dropped isolationism, and pivoted to transphobia and climate denial. Neither of those are party policy either. Just because the leader has been accused of past racist behaviour doesn't mean that the whole party is definitely racist. If it did that would mean that the whole Green party are fraudsters. It is at an alarming rate how many people leave or sacked for racism though, no? 3 from their lists in Wales alone since Monday!! Especially when the head of the party is accused of racism by no less than at least 35 of compatriots. Shall we do a deep dive in comments made by 30p Lee, Suella the cruel, honest bob doesn't like browns in Birmingham, whatever is it about this party that attracts racists, isolationists and all round wrong uns? Remember when Farage said he was the same movement as the accused r@pist as Andrew Tate but not islamaphoic enough for Tommy Robinson or Elon ketamin musk What’s extraordinary is that the British Left, which is absolutely rife with antisemitism (I see another Green Party candidate has quit today after claiming that Hatzola was an “inside job”) continues to pursue the “everyone who disagrees with me is racist” line. It’s obviously pure projection, but you think at some point they would either: 1. Muster up enough intelligence to look in the mirror and think to themselves “calling everyone else racist just isn’t working, we need to try something else”; or 2. Maybe they have worked out 1. but they simply have no other strategy so they keep on with 1 regardless. " Touched a nerve? | |||
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"Let me get this straight. We shouldn't call racists - racist because it upsets the racists. Only if we also say racists exists on the left?" You seem to be stuck in 2010. | |||
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"Let me get this straight. We shouldn't call racists - racist because it upsets the racists. Only if we also say racists exists on the left? You seem to be stuck in 2010." Before or after the austerity election? | |||
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