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"With zero growth last month even before the oil price increases, and the growing attacks on ancient civil liberties and freedom of speech, can Britain afford another three years of Starmerism ? " Well it’s a good job Badenoch or Farage weren’t in charge. Both said we should be more involved in the war offensive and went on to backtrack. Would they have dropped a few bombs and then said sorry? | |||
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"Has everyone forgotten Magna Carta ? Did she die in vain ?" Her sacrifice will not be forgotten. | |||
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"136 local elections in eight weeks Outcome will be interesting. Seems all the UK's woes are always down to others, tories, Brexit, Putin, small boats, Trumps tariffs, blah " Let’s not forget that the Tories were still talking about the economy they inherited in 2010 under Sunak | |||
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"With zero growth last month even before the oil price increases, and the growing attacks on ancient civil liberties and freedom of speech, can Britain afford another three years of Starmerism ? " 1 year of Starmer and you are complaining after 14 years of Tory incompetence! … really? | |||
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"With zero growth last month even before the oil price increases, and the growing attacks on ancient civil liberties and freedom of speech, can Britain afford another three years of Starmerism ? Well it’s a good job Badenoch or Farage weren’t in charge. Both said we should be more involved in the war offensive and went on to backtrack. Would they have dropped a few bombs and then said sorry? " I'm guessing that there would have been no apology | |||
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"With zero growth last month even before the oil price increases, and the growing attacks on ancient civil liberties and freedom of speech, can Britain afford another three years of Starmerism ? 1 year of Starmer and you are complaining after 14 years of Tory incompetence! … really? " How long did you give Liz Truss ? | |||
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"With zero growth last month even before the oil price increases, and the growing attacks on ancient civil liberties and freedom of speech, can Britain afford another three years of Starmerism ? 1 year of Starmer and you are complaining after 14 years of Tory incompetence! … really? " reasin people are vomplaining is ecause he was supposed to come in and change things as it is its more of the same bollox of blaming everyone else the guy is just as much of a fuckin idiot as boris was | |||
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"With zero growth last month even before the oil price increases, and the growing attacks on ancient civil liberties and freedom of speech, can Britain afford another three years of Starmerism ? 1 year of Starmer and you are complaining after 14 years of Tory incompetence! … really? reasin people are vomplaining is ecause he was supposed to come in and change things as it is its more of the same bollox of blaming everyone else the guy is just as much of a fuckin idiot as boris was" Also corrupt. | |||
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"With zero growth last month even before the oil price increases, and the growing attacks on ancient civil liberties and freedom of speech, can Britain afford another three years of Starmerism ? 1 year of Starmer and you are complaining after 14 years of Tory incompetence! … really? How long did you give Liz Truss ?" I think the party dealt with her before any of the public had a chance… | |||
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"With zero growth last month even before the oil price increases, and the growing attacks on ancient civil liberties and freedom of speech, can Britain afford another three years of Starmerism ? 1 year of Starmer and you are complaining after 14 years of Tory incompetence! … really? reasin people are vomplaining is ecause he was supposed to come in and change things as it is its more of the same bollox of blaming everyone else the guy is just as much of a fuckin idiot as boris was" Every party says that during the campaign and then they reality of the task in hand hits the buffers of government.. I do wonder about the mindset of some who think the problems they all face on day one will be fixed overnight.. People dont want to know how bad it actually is and just how long it'll take then there's the mistakes they all make in office and 'events'.. We can order food in a jiffy and its here in 15, we can buy something on line and its here the next day, i dont know if such things play a part in people's thinking when they look at the NHS, cost of living, immigration etc but the trend of expectation and I want it now seems to be more prevalent in my lifetime.. | |||
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"With zero growth last month even before the oil price increases, and the growing attacks on ancient civil liberties and freedom of speech, can Britain afford another three years of Starmerism ? 1 year of Starmer and you are complaining after 14 years of Tory incompetence! … really? How long did you give Liz Truss ?" Longer than the bookies  | |||
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"With zero growth last month even before the oil price increases, and the growing attacks on ancient civil liberties and freedom of speech, can Britain afford another three years of Starmerism ? 1 year of Starmer and you are complaining after 14 years of Tory incompetence! … really? How long did you give Liz Truss ? I think the party dealt with her before any of the public had a chance…" No one on the left has ever given a Conservative PM a grace period or the benefit of the doubt for 5 minutes, and that's fine in tribal politics. But don't wet the bed when the Labour leader who promised change for the better delivers zero growth, highest ever illegal immigration and corruption running throughout his Govt. How do you like them lettuces?  | |||
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"With zero growth last month even before the oil price increases, and the growing attacks on ancient civil liberties and freedom of speech, can Britain afford another three years of Starmerism ? 1 year of Starmer and you are complaining after 14 years of Tory incompetence! … really? How long did you give Liz Truss ? I think the party dealt with her before any of the public had a chance… No one on the left has ever given a Conservative PM a grace period or the benefit of the doubt for 5 minutes, and that's fine in tribal politics. But don't wet the bed when the Labour leader who promised change for the better delivers zero growth, highest ever illegal immigration and corruption running throughout his Govt. How do you like them lettuces? "Well you’re once again confusing me with someone who supports Starmer - which is incorrect, but at least get your facts right - the most illegal entrants to the UK occurred in 2017 (though exact figures are not known as govt’s don’t publish that data. | |||
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"With zero growth last month even before the oil price increases, and the growing attacks on ancient civil liberties and freedom of speech, can Britain afford another three years of Starmerism ? 1 year of Starmer and you are complaining after 14 years of Tory incompetence! … really? How long did you give Liz Truss ? I think the party dealt with her before any of the public had a chance… No one on the left has ever given a Conservative PM a grace period or the benefit of the doubt for 5 minutes, and that's fine in tribal politics. But don't wet the bed when the Labour leader who promised change for the better delivers zero growth, highest ever illegal immigration and corruption running throughout his Govt. How do you like them lettuces?
Well you’re once again confusing me with someone who supports Starmer - which is incorrect, but at least get your facts right - the most illegal entrants to the UK occurred in 2017 (though exact figures are not known as govt’s don’t publish that data."My apologies for positioning you on the left of politics. | |||
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"With zero growth last month even before the oil price increases, and the growing attacks on ancient civil liberties and freedom of speech, can Britain afford another three years of Starmerism ? 1 year of Starmer and you are complaining after 14 years of Tory incompetence! … really? How long did you give Liz Truss ? I think the party dealt with her before any of the public had a chance… No one on the left has ever given a Conservative PM a grace period or the benefit of the doubt for 5 minutes, and that's fine in tribal politics. But don't wet the bed when the Labour leader who promised change for the better delivers zero growth, highest ever illegal immigration and corruption running throughout his Govt. How do you like them lettuces?
Well you’re once again confusing me with someone who supports Starmer - which is incorrect, but at least get your facts right - the most illegal entrants to the UK occurred in 2017 (though exact figures are not known as govt’s don’t publish that data.
My apologies for positioning you on the left of politics."Oh i’m on the left and proud of it. Starmer is at best centrist. | |||
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"With zero growth last month even before the oil price increases, and the growing attacks on ancient civil liberties and freedom of speech, can Britain afford another three years of Starmerism ? 1 year of Starmer and you are complaining after 14 years of Tory incompetence! … really? How long did you give Liz Truss ? I think the party dealt with her before any of the public had a chance… No one on the left has ever given a Conservative PM a grace period or the benefit of the doubt for 5 minutes, and that's fine in tribal politics. But don't wet the bed when the Labour leader who promised change for the better delivers zero growth, highest ever illegal immigration and corruption running throughout his Govt. How do you like them lettuces?
Well you’re once again confusing me with someone who supports Starmer - which is incorrect, but at least get your facts right - the most illegal entrants to the UK occurred in 2017 (though exact figures are not known as govt’s don’t publish that data.
My apologies for positioning you on the left of politics.
Oh i’m on the left and proud of it.
Starmer is at best centrist. "OK, as I referred to 'the left' and not Starmer supporters I withdraw my apology! 🤣 | |||
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"With zero growth last month even before the oil price increases, and the growing attacks on ancient civil liberties and freedom of speech, can Britain afford another three years of Starmerism ? 1 year of Starmer and you are complaining after 14 years of Tory incompetence! … really? How long did you give Liz Truss ? I think the party dealt with her before any of the public had a chance… No one on the left has ever given a Conservative PM a grace period or the benefit of the doubt for 5 minutes, and that's fine in tribal politics. But don't wet the bed when the Labour leader who promised change for the better delivers zero growth, highest ever illegal immigration and corruption running throughout his Govt. How do you like them lettuces?
Well you’re once again confusing me with someone who supports Starmer - which is incorrect, but at least get your facts right - the most illegal entrants to the UK occurred in 2017 (though exact figures are not known as govt’s don’t publish that data.
My apologies for positioning you on the left of politics.
Oh i’m on the left and proud of it.
Starmer is at best centrist.
OK, as I referred to 'the left' and not Starmer supporters I withdraw my apology! 🤣"You mentioned a labour leader, did you not? Who were you referring to, then? | |||
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"With zero growth last month even before the oil price increases, and the growing attacks on ancient civil liberties and freedom of speech, can Britain afford another three years of Starmerism ? 1 year of Starmer and you are complaining after 14 years of Tory incompetence! … really? " Do you think after the first year of the Tory government people didn't complain? Why is it wrong to complain about this government after 1 year? During that 14 years of Tory government labour constantly said how much better they would be yet now they are in office they are not even close to living up to their own promises | |||
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"With zero growth last month even before the oil price increases, and the growing attacks on ancient civil liberties and freedom of speech, can Britain afford another three years of Starmerism ? 1 year of Starmer and you are complaining after 14 years of Tory incompetence! … really? Do you think after the first year of the Tory government people didn't complain? Why is it wrong to complain about this government after 1 year? During that 14 years of Tory government labour constantly said how much better they would be yet now they are in office they are not even close to living up to their own promises " Tbf Labour could cure cancer and people would still find a way to find fault somehow. Such is tribal politics. This past week or so on Iran, Starmer has been superb. | |||
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"With zero growth last month even before the oil price increases, and the growing attacks on ancient civil liberties and freedom of speech, can Britain afford another three years of Starmerism ? 1 year of Starmer and you are complaining after 14 years of Tory incompetence! … really? Do you think after the first year of the Tory government people didn't complain? Why is it wrong to complain about this government after 1 year? During that 14 years of Tory government labour constantly said how much better they would be yet now they are in office they are not even close to living up to their own promises " I didn’t say people could not complain… I think the hyperbolic statements in the opening post are ridiculous | |||
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"With zero growth last month even before the oil price increases, and the growing attacks on ancient civil liberties and freedom of speech, can Britain afford another three years of Starmerism ? 1 year of Starmer and you are complaining after 14 years of Tory incompetence! … really? Do you think after the first year of the Tory government people didn't complain? Why is it wrong to complain about this government after 1 year? During that 14 years of Tory government labour constantly said how much better they would be yet now they are in office they are not even close to living up to their own promises I didn’t say people could not complain… I think the hyperbolic statements in the opening post are ridiculous " What hyperbole? Zero growth was literally announced today and the right to a jury trial was withdrawn for thousands this week. I think I was being kind! | |||
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"With zero growth last month even before the oil price increases, and the growing attacks on ancient civil liberties and freedom of speech, can Britain afford another three years of Starmerism ? 1 year of Starmer and you are complaining after 14 years of Tory incompetence! … really? Do you think after the first year of the Tory government people didn't complain? Why is it wrong to complain about this government after 1 year? During that 14 years of Tory government labour constantly said how much better they would be yet now they are in office they are not even close to living up to their own promises I didn’t say people could not complain… I think the hyperbolic statements in the opening post are ridiculous What hyperbole? Zero growth was literally announced today and the right to a jury trial was withdrawn for thousands this week. I think I was being kind!" The right to a jury trial has not been withdrawn . It may happen in the future but the bill has only past the first reading in parliament . There’s plenty of time for it to be changed or U-turned on . | |||
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" We also need to stop the divisions within our country which is fuelled by the government and mainstream media. Everyone who lives here, this is our country. Let's make it a better place to live in. It's ok to disagree. It doesn't make the other person completely evil, or wrong, or a muppet." This is great in theory but it ignores the truism that some people (understandably) won’t work with others. Someone who supports Rupert Lowe’s policy to financially reward citizens for reporting illegal immigrants - stasi style? I’m never going to work with them for ‘the greater good’ - why? Because our ideas of ‘the greater good’ are poles apart. Can I get along with conservatives? Sure I can, and I do, regardless of our differences in opinion. But can I get along with someone who supports a totalitarian state? Someone who says ‘shoot the boats’? Someone who supports toxic masculinity or defends people like Andrew Tate? I’d rather shit in my hands and clap | |||
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"With zero growth last month even before the oil price increases, and the growing attacks on ancient civil liberties and freedom of speech, can Britain afford another three years of Starmerism ? 1 year of Starmer and you are complaining after 14 years of Tory incompetence! … really? Do you think after the first year of the Tory government people didn't complain? Why is it wrong to complain about this government after 1 year? During that 14 years of Tory government labour constantly said how much better they would be yet now they are in office they are not even close to living up to their own promises I didn’t say people could not complain… I think the hyperbolic statements in the opening post are ridiculous " Well you did seem to question a poster complaining and used a ? as well. They can complain about this government just like others complained about previous governments | |||
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"With zero growth last month even before the oil price increases, and the growing attacks on ancient civil liberties and freedom of speech, can Britain afford another three years of Starmerism ? " And the rest of the world is enjoying a booming economy? Put into perspective the global financial mess, AI removing jobs at an alarming rate and wars messing up trade; turning the economy around would be tough no matter who is in. | |||
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"it's their raison d'etre Did Zahra Sultana say that ? " geoffrey archer actually | |||
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"it's their raison d'etre Did Zahra Sultana say that ? geoffrey archer actually " 🤦♂️ | |||
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"With zero growth last month even before the oil price increases, and the growing attacks on ancient civil liberties and freedom of speech, can Britain afford another three years of Starmerism ? And the rest of the world is enjoying a booming economy? Put into perspective the global financial mess, AI removing jobs at an alarming rate and wars messing up trade; turning the economy around would be tough no matter who is in." Ah but the OP will blame Starmer on the global economy and world poverty 🤷♂️ | |||
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"With zero growth last month even before the oil price increases, and the growing attacks on ancient civil liberties and freedom of speech, can Britain afford another three years of Starmerism ? And the rest of the world is enjoying a booming economy? Put into perspective the global financial mess, AI removing jobs at an alarming rate and wars messing up trade; turning the economy around would be tough no matter who is in. Ah but the OP will blame Starmer on the global economy and world poverty 🤷♂️" Well someone has to take responsibility for him ! 🤣 | |||
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