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"filming an Iranian missile. I guess it's best to abide by their laws no matter how harsh it may seem 🤷♂️ https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c743g4yn4k8o" Do you think those are good laws or bad laws? | |||
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"filming an Iranian missile. I guess it's best to abide by their laws no matter how harsh it may seem 🤷♂️ https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c743g4yn4k8o Do you think those are good laws or bad laws?" What does it mater what I think, it's their laws 🤷♂️ | |||
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"filming an Iranian missile. I guess it's best to abide by their laws no matter how harsh it may seem 🤷♂️ https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c743g4yn4k8o Do you think those are good laws or bad laws? What does it mater what I think, it's their laws 🤷♂️" So if it's someone else's laws, you don't care? Even if it's something like death penalty for being gay? | |||
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"filming an Iranian missile. I guess it's best to abide by their laws no matter how harsh it may seem 🤷♂️ https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c743g4yn4k8o Do you think those are good laws or bad laws? What does it mater what I think, it's their laws 🤷♂️" Normally when someone starts a thread on a subject they do have an opinion on it.  | |||
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"filming an Iranian missile. I guess it's best to abide by their laws no matter how harsh it may seem 🤷♂️ https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c743g4yn4k8o Do you think those are good laws or bad laws? What does it mater what I think, it's their laws 🤷♂️ Normally when someone starts a thread on a subject they do have an opinion on it. "And some people actually start threads with factual information 🤷♂️ | |||
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"filming an Iranian missile. I guess it's best to abide by their laws no matter how harsh it may seem 🤷♂️ https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c743g4yn4k8o Do you think those are good laws or bad laws? What does it mater what I think, it's their laws 🤷♂️ Normally when someone starts a thread on a subject they do have an opinion on it. "Maybe they don't have any opinions about Hitler's concentration camps in Germany either. It's their laws 🤷♂️ | |||
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"filming an Iranian missile. I guess it's best to abide by their laws no matter how harsh it may seem 🤷♂️ https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c743g4yn4k8o Do you think those are good laws or bad laws? What does it mater what I think, it's their laws 🤷♂️ So if it's someone else's laws, you don't care? Even if it's something like death penalty for being gay?" One should care about oppressive laws, of course, but should those laws be ignored if you don’t agree with them? Personally on your example I wouldn’t visit a nation who has oppressive rules against LGBTQ+ people (as a straight man), and I’d urge others to do the same. Not sure what power I have to change them… | |||
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"filming an Iranian missile. I guess it's best to abide by their laws no matter how harsh it may seem 🤷♂️ https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c743g4yn4k8o Do you think those are good laws or bad laws? What does it mater what I think, it's their laws 🤷♂️ So if it's someone else's laws, you don't care? Even if it's something like death penalty for being gay? One should care about oppressive laws, of course, but should those laws be ignored if you don’t agree with them? " I never said they should be ignored. But you can still have an opinion on whether the law is good or bad, which was the opinion I asked for. " Personally on your example I wouldn’t visit a nation who has oppressive rules against LGBTQ+ people (as a straight man), and I’d urge others to do the same. Not sure what power I have to change them… " That's a fair take. You and I don't have the power to change their laws. But you can still criticise the laws. Morality is relative. But you can still talk about your opinion of other people's morality. | |||
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"filming an Iranian missile. I guess it's best to abide by their laws no matter how harsh it may seem 🤷♂️ https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c743g4yn4k8o Do you think those are good laws or bad laws? What does it mater what I think, it's their laws 🤷♂️ Normally when someone starts a thread on a subject they do have an opinion on it.
And some people actually start threads with factual information 🤷♂️"Dont lower your standards to their level of deflection and cherry picking ..  | |||
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"filming an Iranian missile. I guess it's best to abide by their laws no matter how harsh it may seem 🤷♂️ https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c743g4yn4k8o Do you think those are good laws or bad laws? What does it mater what I think, it's their laws 🤷♂️ So if it's someone else's laws, you don't care? Even if it's something like death penalty for being gay?" Its an interesting question .. How much do we care about such things plus what can we do to try to influence such laws etc.. | |||
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"filming an Iranian missile. I guess it's best to abide by their laws no matter how harsh it may seem 🤷♂️ https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c743g4yn4k8o Do you think those are good laws or bad laws? What does it mater what I think, it's their laws 🤷♂️ So if it's someone else's laws, you don't care? Even if it's something like death penalty for being gay? Its an interesting question .. How much do we care about such things plus what can we do to try to influence such laws etc.. " How much we care about something, yes. But how much we can influence these laws shouldn't stop us from having an opinion about the law itself. | |||
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"filming an Iranian missile. I guess it's best to abide by their laws no matter how harsh it may seem 🤷♂️ https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c743g4yn4k8o Do you think those are good laws or bad laws? What does it mater what I think, it's their laws 🤷♂️ So if it's someone else's laws, you don't care? Even if it's something like death penalty for being gay? Its an interesting question .. How much do we care about such things plus what can we do to try to influence such laws etc.. How much we care about something, yes. But how much we can influence these laws shouldn't stop us from having an opinion about the law itself." Fully agree.. | |||
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"filming an Iranian missile. I guess it's best to abide by their laws no matter how harsh it may seem 🤷♂️ https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c743g4yn4k8o Do you think those are good laws or bad laws? What does it mater what I think, it's their laws 🤷♂️ Normally when someone starts a thread on a subject they do have an opinion on it.
Maybe they don't have any opinions about Hitler's concentration camps in Germany either. It's their laws 🤷♂️"Certainly many people thought Iran's laws were fine and dandy. | |||
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" 🤷♂️ Certainly many people thought Iran's laws were fine and dandy." *citation needed | |||
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" 🤷♂️ Certainly many people thought Iran's laws were fine and dandy. *citation needed " Some truths are self evident. | |||
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" 🤷♂️ Certainly many people thought Iran's laws were fine and dandy. *citation needed Some truths are self evident." Are they? I challenge you to find one person in this forum who has expressed support for the Iranian regime. (And being against the war is not support of Iran). | |||
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" 🤷♂️ Certainly many people thought Iran's laws were fine and dandy. *citation needed Some truths are self evident. Are they? I challenge you to find one person in this forum who has expressed support for the Iranian regime. (And being against the war is not support of Iran)." Deflection incoming | |||
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" 🤷♂️ Certainly many people thought Iran's laws were fine and dandy. *citation needed Some truths are self evident. Are they? I challenge you to find one person in this forum who has expressed support for the Iranian regime. (And being against the war is not support of Iran)." If people are silent about a regime killing 50,000 of its citizens in a few weeks, yet post endlessly about the actions of those who are attempting to remove that regime, I think their sympathies are beyond obvious. | |||
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" 🤷♂️ Certainly many people thought Iran's laws were fine and dandy. *citation needed Some truths are self evident. Are they? I challenge you to find one person in this forum who has expressed support for the Iranian regime. (And being against the war is not support of Iran). If people are silent about a regime killing 50,000 of its citizens in a few weeks, yet post endlessly about the actions of those who are attempting to remove that regime, I think their sympathies are beyond obvious." Bs.. | |||
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" 🤷♂️ Certainly many people thought Iran's laws were fine and dandy. *citation needed Some truths are self evident. Are they? I challenge you to find one person in this forum who has expressed support for the Iranian regime. (And being against the war is not support of Iran). Deflection incoming "  | |||
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"filming an Iranian missile. I guess it's best to abide by their laws no matter how harsh it may seem 🤷♂️ https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c743g4yn4k8o Do you think those are good laws or bad laws? What does it mater what I think, it's their laws 🤷♂️ Normally when someone starts a thread on a subject they do have an opinion on it.
Maybe they don't have any opinions about Hitler's concentration camps in Germany either. It's their laws 🤷♂️
Certainly many people thought Iran's laws were fine and dandy."Possibly in your own social circle but not on here.. You know that.. | |||
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" 🤷♂️ Certainly many people thought Iran's laws were fine and dandy. *citation needed Some truths are self evident. Are they? I challenge you to find one person in this forum who has expressed support for the Iranian regime. (And being against the war is not support of Iran). If people are silent about a regime killing 50,000 of its citizens in a few weeks, yet post endlessly about the actions of those who are attempting to remove that regime, I think their sympathies are beyond obvious. Bs.." I said what I said. | |||
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" 🤷♂️ Certainly many people thought Iran's laws were fine and dandy. *citation needed Some truths are self evident. Are they? I challenge you to find one person in this forum who has expressed support for the Iranian regime. (And being against the war is not support of Iran). Defecation incoming " Harsh! | |||
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" 🤷♂️ Certainly many people thought Iran's laws were fine and dandy. *citation needed Some truths are self evident. Are they? I challenge you to find one person in this forum who has expressed support for the Iranian regime. (And being against the war is not support of Iran). If people are silent about a regime killing 50,000 of its citizens in a few weeks, yet post endlessly about the actions of those who are attempting to remove that regime, I think their sympathies are beyond obvious. Bs.. I said what I said." It is still my opinion that your talking rubbish.. I am opposed like many others to the death penalty.. That doesn't mean my abhorrent revulsion to crimes that might deserve that if it were introduced is any less.. | |||
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" 🤷♂️ Certainly many people thought Iran's laws were fine and dandy. *citation needed Some truths are self evident. Are they? I challenge you to find one person in this forum who has expressed support for the Iranian regime. (And being against the war is not support of Iran). If people are silent about a regime killing 50,000 of its citizens in a few weeks, yet post endlessly about the actions of those who are attempting to remove that regime, I think their sympathies are beyond obvious." ‘I think’ isn’t evidence, though is it? I think Rupert Lowe’s immigration booklet is akin to the stasi. I could do a good job of convincing people such, but his support would still deny it as opinion, right? | |||
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" 🤷♂️ Certainly many people thought Iran's laws were fine and dandy. *citation needed Some truths are self evident. Are they? I challenge you to find one person in this forum who has expressed support for the Iranian regime. (And being against the war is not support of Iran). If people are silent about a regime killing 50,000 of its citizens in a few weeks, yet post endlessly about the actions of those who are attempting to remove that regime, I think their sympathies are beyond obvious." It's more nuanced than that. There's the basic premise of "my enemy's enemy" - the same as the bizarre pairing between "Queers for Palestine" and supporters of Hamas. They aren't actually compatible, but they both hate the white Western hegemony, oppression of the marginalised, etc. The same can be seen with Iran - how could Jeremy Corbyn, a human rights campaigner, stand on so many Iranian (and pro-Hamas) platforms? If they stepped back and considered whether they would back 90% of their policies were they instituted by white men in Britain, then no. They don't actually like what the Iranian regime stands for... But that is overshadowed by the imperative to stand with the oppressed against the common enemy: white, western capitalism. This spills over into general society - many tribal leftists, and even more tribal "woke" will attack anything against their "enemy", be that Trump, the White West, Israel, Jews, capitalism, British tribal fascism, whatever. There is then a blind spot in these people for those pesky human rights issues, which are subordinate to the overarching hatred. This is usually dismissed as "of course I don't agree, but that's not within our control", etc. But don't confuse ignoring the inconvenient obvious in deference to a shared hatred, and actual support of the regime. Incidentally, there were a couple of Islamists on this forum over the past couple of years, banging on about the decadent West, with all the misogyny and anti-gay rhetoric you'd expect. They've either gone away or been banned. But they've been incredibly entertaining and an educational look into the mind of some of these deranged people over in the Middle East (and here in the UK). | |||
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"filming an Iranian missile. I guess it's best to abide by their laws no matter how harsh it may seem 🤷♂️ https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c743g4yn4k8o" Their way of controlling propaganda or the narrative… because nothing says “Dubai is the safest place on earth” quite like Iranian missiles flying over your head! But I suppose that is the trade off for living tax free is only posting good and nothing bad! | |||
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" 🤷♂️ Certainly many people thought Iran's laws were fine and dandy. *citation needed Some truths are self evident. Are they? I challenge you to find one person in this forum who has expressed support for the Iranian regime. (And being against the war is not support of Iran). If people are silent about a regime killing 50,000 of its citizens in a few weeks, yet post endlessly about the actions of those who are attempting to remove that regime, I think their sympathies are beyond obvious." Deflection complete | |||
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" 🤷♂️ Certainly many people thought Iran's laws were fine and dandy. *citation needed Some truths are self evident. Are they? I challenge you to find one person in this forum who has expressed support for the Iranian regime. (And being against the war is not support of Iran). If people are silent about a regime killing 50,000 of its citizens in a few weeks, yet post endlessly about the actions of those who are attempting to remove that regime, I think their sympathies are beyond obvious. Deflection complete " | |||
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" 🤷♂️ Certainly many people thought Iran's laws were fine and dandy. *citation needed Some truths are self evident. Are they? I challenge you to find one person in this forum who has expressed support for the Iranian regime. (And being against the war is not support of Iran). If people are silent about a regime killing 50,000 of its citizens in a few weeks, yet post endlessly about the actions of those who are attempting to remove that regime, I think their sympathies are beyond obvious. Deflection complete " | |||
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" 🤷♂️ Certainly many people thought Iran's laws were fine and dandy. *citation needed Some truths are self evident. Are they? I challenge you to find one person in this forum who has expressed support for the Iranian regime. (And being against the war is not support of Iran). If people are silent about a regime killing 50,000 of its citizens in a few weeks, yet post endlessly about the actions of those who are attempting to remove that regime, I think their sympathies are beyond obvious. Deflection complete " Cool. I guess when you have no arguments of any substance just repeating the same word ad nauseum will have to do.  | |||
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" 🤷♂️ Certainly many people thought Iran's laws were fine and dandy. *citation needed Some truths are self evident. Are they? I challenge you to find one person in this forum who has expressed support for the Iranian regime. (And being against the war is not support of Iran)." Not directly supporting. But I have asked some people their opinions of the Iranian regime, their answer was that they don't have an opinion. Same people who seem to have a lot of opinions about every place around Iran. | |||
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" 🤷♂️ Certainly many people thought Iran's laws were fine and dandy. *citation needed Some truths are self evident. Are they? I challenge you to find one person in this forum who has expressed support for the Iranian regime. (And being against the war is not support of Iran). Not directly supporting. But I have asked some people their opinions of the Iranian regime, their answer was that they don't have an opinion. Same people who seem to have a lot of opinions about every place around Iran. " I remember you posting in one of the threads about the mass regime killings that we'd soon hear from other posters if America attacked. 🎯 | |||
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" 🤷♂️ Certainly many people thought Iran's laws were fine and dandy. *citation needed Some truths are self evident. Are they? I challenge you to find one person in this forum who has expressed support for the Iranian regime. (And being against the war is not support of Iran). If people are silent about a regime killing 50,000 of its citizens in a few weeks, yet post endlessly about the actions of those who are attempting to remove that regime, I think their sympathies are beyond obvious. Deflection complete Cool. I guess when you have no arguments of any substance just repeating the same word ad nauseum will have to do. "Feel free to scroll by 🤷♂️ | |||
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" 🤷♂️ Certainly many people thought Iran's laws were fine and dandy. *citation needed Some truths are self evident. Are they? I challenge you to find one person in this forum who has expressed support for the Iranian regime. (And being against the war is not support of Iran). If people are silent about a regime killing 50,000 of its citizens in a few weeks, yet post endlessly about the actions of those who are attempting to remove that regime, I think their sympathies are beyond obvious. It's more nuanced than that. There's the basic premise of "my enemy's enemy" - the same as the bizarre pairing between "Queers for Palestine" and supporters of Hamas. They aren't actually compatible, but they both hate the white Western hegemony, oppression of the marginalised, etc. The same can be seen with Iran - how could Jeremy Corbyn, a human rights campaigner, stand on so many Iranian (and pro-Hamas) platforms? If they stepped back and considered whether they would back 90% of their policies were they instituted by white men in Britain, then no. They don't actually like what the Iranian regime stands for... But that is overshadowed by the imperative to stand with the oppressed against the common enemy: white, western capitalism. This spills over into general society - many tribal leftists, and even more tribal "woke" will attack anything against their "enemy", be that Trump, the White West, Israel, Jews, capitalism, British tribal fascism, whatever. There is then a blind spot in these people for those pesky human rights issues, which are subordinate to the overarching hatred. This is usually dismissed as "of course I don't agree, but that's not within our control", etc. But don't confuse ignoring the inconvenient obvious in deference to a shared hatred, and actual support of the regime. Incidentally, there were a couple of Islamists on this forum over the past couple of years, banging on about the decadent West, with all the misogyny and anti-gay rhetoric you'd expect. They've either gone away or been banned. But they've been incredibly entertaining and an educational look into the mind of some of these deranged people over in the Middle East (and here in the UK)." There was a candlelit vigil for Khamenei in Manchester  | |||
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" 🤷♂️ Certainly many people thought Iran's laws were fine and dandy. *citation needed Some truths are self evident. Are they? I challenge you to find one person in this forum who has expressed support for the Iranian regime. (And being against the war is not support of Iran). If people are silent about a regime killing 50,000 of its citizens in a few weeks, yet post endlessly about the actions of those who are attempting to remove that regime, I think their sympathies are beyond obvious. It's more nuanced than that. There's the basic premise of "my enemy's enemy" - the same as the bizarre pairing between "Queers for Palestine" and supporters of Hamas. They aren't actually compatible, but they both hate the white Western hegemony, oppression of the marginalised, etc. The same can be seen with Iran - how could Jeremy Corbyn, a human rights campaigner, stand on so many Iranian (and pro-Hamas) platforms? If they stepped back and considered whether they would back 90% of their policies were they instituted by white men in Britain, then no. They don't actually like what the Iranian regime stands for... But that is overshadowed by the imperative to stand with the oppressed against the common enemy: white, western capitalism. This spills over into general society - many tribal leftists, and even more tribal "woke" will attack anything against their "enemy", be that Trump, the White West, Israel, Jews, capitalism, British tribal fascism, whatever. There is then a blind spot in these people for those pesky human rights issues, which are subordinate to the overarching hatred. This is usually dismissed as "of course I don't agree, but that's not within our control", etc. But don't confuse ignoring the inconvenient obvious in deference to a shared hatred, and actual support of the regime. Incidentally, there were a couple of Islamists on this forum over the past couple of years, banging on about the decadent West, with all the misogyny and anti-gay rhetoric you'd expect. They've either gone away or been banned. But they've been incredibly entertaining and an educational look into the mind of some of these deranged people over in the Middle East (and here in the UK). There was a candlelit vigil for Khamenei in Manchester "People mourned Pinochet, Stalin and some still commemorate Hitlers birthday.. Nowt so queer as folk.. | |||
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