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By *ingdomNightTimePleasures OP   Man
8 weeks ago

nearby

Democrats in the US Senate have written to Defence Secretary Pete Hegseth demanding answers about the strike on a primary school in Iran that Iranian officials say killed 168 people, including about 110 children.

US media have reported that US military investigators believe American forces were likely responsible for hitting the school unintentionally at the start of the joint US-Israeli operation.

What will father of four Hesgeth say about it?

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By *KMaxMan
8 weeks ago

Bristol

Hegseth is a monster, even his mother thinks so!

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple
8 weeks ago

Border of London


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US media have reported that US military investigators believe American forces were likely responsible for hitting the school unintentionally at the start of the joint US-Israeli operation."

1. A tragic miscalculation isn't a war crime.

2. The political press machine was both stupid and disrespectful to work to discredit those who were probably voicing the reality and push alternative (less likely) theories as facts. I've the dust settles and the facts are known, they could then look like callous and partisan fools (hence a stupid position to take).

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By *abioMan
8 weeks ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"

US media have reported that US military investigators believe American forces were likely responsible for hitting the school unintentionally at the start of the joint US-Israeli operation.

1. A tragic miscalculation isn't a war crime.

2. The political press machine was both stupid and disrespectful to work to discredit those who were probably voicing the reality and push alternative (less likely) theories as facts. I've the dust settles and the facts are known, they could then look like callous and partisan fools (hence a stupid position to take)."

Apparently they were using intelligence from back in 2013… so it’s incompetent at best

But the story keeps changing day on day.. blaming Iran saying it was one of their weapons, then saying it was a tomahawk sold to someone else, now trying to not answer at all…

It will get buried under “under investigation” they won’t ever admit it

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By *ools and the brainCouple
8 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.


"Democrats in the US Senate have written to Defence Secretary Pete Hegseth demanding answers about the strike on a primary school in Iran that Iranian officials say killed 168 people, including about 110 children.

US media have reported that US military investigators believe American forces were likely responsible for hitting the school unintentionally at the start of the joint US-Israeli operation.

What will father of four Hesgeth say about it?

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Good luck trying to pin it on Teflon Trump.

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple
8 weeks ago

Border of London


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Apparently they were using intelligence from back in 2013… so it’s incompetent at best

"

Also saw that - very similar to the bombing of the Chinese embassy in Belgrade.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-48134881

"Old map" was given as the reason there, too.

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By *ingdomNightTimePleasures OP   Man
8 weeks ago

nearby


"

US media have reported that US military investigators believe American forces were likely responsible for hitting the school unintentionally at the start of the joint US-Israeli operation.

1. A tragic miscalculation isn't a war crime.

2. The political press machine was both stupid and disrespectful to work to discredit those who were probably voicing the reality and push alternative (less likely) theories as facts. I've the dust settles and the facts are known, they could then look like callous and partisan fools (hence a stupid position to take).

Apparently they were using intelligence from back in 2013… so it’s incompetent at best

But the story keeps changing day on day.. blaming Iran saying it was one of their weapons, then saying it was a tomahawk sold to someone else, now trying to not answer at all…

It will get buried under “under investigation” they won’t ever admit it

"

But Hegseth said four days ago

‘Our commanders are aware of everything. We have the best intelligence in the world’

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By *ingdomNightTimePleasures OP   Man
8 weeks ago

nearby

3.2m Iranians have fled their homes to find safety from the joint US-Israeli aerial bombing campaign bombarding the country, according to preliminary assessments by the the UN refugee agency

That’s alot of people living on or next to nuclear sites (that were previously reported as destroyed)

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple
8 weeks ago

Border of London


"3.2m Iranians have fled their homes to find safety from the joint US-Israeli aerial bombing campaign bombarding the country, according to preliminary assessments by the the UN refugee agency

That’s alot of people living on or next to nuclear sites (that were previously reported as destroyed) "

Not just nuclear... Also components in nuclear research and manufacture, drone and missile components across the entire manufacturing chain, ports, IRGC and Basij bases, airports, weapons stockpiles, other strategic targets.

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By *ty31Man
8 weeks ago

NW London


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US media have reported that US military investigators believe American forces were likely responsible for hitting the school unintentionally at the start of the joint US-Israeli operation.

1. A tragic miscalculation isn't a war crime.

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Even if it was an Iranian drone that hit an American/British/Israeli school?

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple
8 weeks ago

Border of London


"

US media have reported that US military investigators believe American forces were likely responsible for hitting the school unintentionally at the start of the joint US-Israeli operation.

1. A tragic miscalculation isn't a war crime.

Even if it was an Iranian drone that hit an American/British/Israeli school?

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Correct.

If it was actually targeting something legitimate, such as a military installation immediately next door. Not it it were a blind "let's see what we can hit" scenario.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
8 weeks ago

in Lancashire

Its certainly the case that the Iranian regime and others have military installations etc next to other building such as schools and the like..

Given Iran is one of the most hi tech surveillance covered countries you might have thought the Americans would have known that in the corner of an IRGC compound there was a none hostile building..

They should have known..

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By *esi70Man
5 weeks ago

Blackburn

Given that many western countries have nuclear weapons as do Russia China India etc and inc Israel what's wrong with anyone else having them?

Why is it dangerous in the hands of any one country but not another especially when some countries go around the world causing havoc. Esp in countries which have natural resources.

Don't all countries deserve self defence.

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By *iquanteMan
5 weeks ago

Birmingham

I’m doubtful the US deliberately targeted schoolchildren. There wouldn’t seem to be much point.

Iran however seems to merrily lob missiles at civilian targets on a daily basis.

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By *erryspringerMan
5 weeks ago

Glasgow


"I’m doubtful the US deliberately targeted schoolchildren. There wouldn’t seem to be much point.

Iran however seems to merrily lob missiles at civilian targets on a daily basis."

Simple answers are always the best. US "good", Iran ( Muslims ) "bad".

No investigation required " nothing to see here".

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By *e-OptimistMan
5 weeks ago

Stalybridge


"I’m doubtful the US deliberately targeted schoolchildren. There wouldn’t seem to be much point.

Iran however seems to merrily lob missiles at civilian targets on a daily basis.

Simple answers are always the best. US "good", Iran ( Muslims ) "bad".

No investigation required " nothing to see here"."

Unfortunately in all wars mistakes are made and innocent "collateral damage" casualties are incurred. Whether it counts as a "war crime" is highly debatable. Despite launching the attack the US would gave gained no benefit from the strike on a school. Does someone need to be brought to account - most definitely but the person ultimately responsible will hide behind Presidential immunity.

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By *ingdomNightTimePleasures OP   Man
5 weeks ago

nearby


"I’m doubtful the US deliberately targeted schoolchildren. There wouldn’t seem to be much point.

Iran however seems to merrily lob missiles at civilian targets on a daily basis."

Iran weren’t lobbing missiles at anyone until Trump started the attacks.

Horrid regime I agree, four weeks on 160 school kids and teachers killed, 1500 odd civilians, global fuel prices up, uk mortgage / swap rates up, shipping insurance increased, a few US service personnel killed.

Despite claims of army, navy and air force destroyed, Iran still has the capability to shoot down an F15

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By *ingdomNightTimePleasures OP   Man
5 weeks ago

nearby


"I’m doubtful the US deliberately targeted schoolchildren. There wouldn’t seem to be much point.

Iran however seems to merrily lob missiles at civilian targets on a daily basis.

Simple answers are always the best. US "good", Iran ( Muslims ) "bad".

No investigation required " nothing to see here".

Unfortunately in all wars mistakes are made and innocent "collateral damage" casualties are incurred. Whether it counts as a "war crime" is highly debatable. Despite launching the attack the US would gave gained no benefit from the strike on a school. Does someone need to be brought to account - most definitely but the person ultimately responsible will hide behind Presidential immunity."

If Israel is accountable for war crimes under ICC (all their ordnance supplied by USA) then the mistaken bombing of a school is also a war crime?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
5 weeks ago

in Lancashire


"I’m doubtful the US deliberately targeted schoolchildren. There wouldn’t seem to be much point.

Iran however seems to merrily lob missiles at civilian targets on a daily basis.

Iran weren’t lobbing missiles at anyone until Trump started the attacks.

Horrid regime I agree, four weeks on 160 school kids and teachers killed, 1500 odd civilians, global fuel prices up, uk mortgage / swap rates up, shipping insurance increased, a few US service personnel killed.

Despite claims of army, navy and air force destroyed, Iran still has the capability to shoot down an F15 "

The Iranians are letting hegseth and trump make fools of themselves, utter arrogance and underestimating from day 1..

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By *erryspringerMan
5 weeks ago

Glasgow


"I’m doubtful the US deliberately targeted schoolchildren. There wouldn’t seem to be much point.

Iran however seems to merrily lob missiles at civilian targets on a daily basis.

Simple answers are always the best. US "good", Iran ( Muslims ) "bad".

No investigation required " nothing to see here".

Unfortunately in all wars mistakes are made and innocent "collateral damage" casualties are incurred. Whether it counts as a "war crime" is highly debatable. Despite launching the attack the US would gave gained no benefit from the strike on a school. Does someone need to be brought to account - most definitely but the person ultimately responsible will hide behind Presidential immunity."

Its pointless debating war crimes for countries like Israel, US, Russia, China etc. Everyone knows no one will do anything about it.

Only people who face war crime trials are deposed African warlords or a deposed head of small countries like Milosevic.

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By (user no longer on site)
5 weeks ago

Interesting topic on war crimes and the good ol’ US intelligence not knowing a weapon of mass destruction from a lamppost.

The US military has been guilty of war crimes since the 4th of July 1776.

There used to be a website where you could try and horribly fail to find a day where the US military was not involved in some skirmish somewhere in the world.

More Allies die from American fire than anything else during every conflict where we have stood side by side

As for innocent kids

Do I begin with Hue Offensive Vietnam 1967 or can I go further back

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By *otMe66Man
5 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"Interesting topic on war crimes and the good ol’ US intelligence not knowing a weapon of mass destruction from a lamppost.

The US military has been guilty of war crimes since the 4th of July 1776.

There used to be a website where you could try and horribly fail to find a day where the US military was not involved in some skirmish somewhere in the world.

More Allies die from American fire than anything else during every conflict where we have stood side by side

As for innocent kids

Do I begin with Hue Offensive Vietnam 1967 or can I go further back "

Oh dear.. Sweeping claims like this, say more about the argument than the history in my opinion. Happy to be corrected if there are verifiable stats that back up the claims.

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By *abioMan
5 weeks ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"I’m doubtful the US deliberately targeted schoolchildren. There wouldn’t seem to be much point.

Iran however seems to merrily lob missiles at civilian targets on a daily basis."

In the last week the US and Israel have lobbed missiles at water plants, at a children’s hospital, and at a world renowned medical and pharmaceutical facility…

Trump literally gave the game away by saying civilian infrastructure such as power plants would be next…

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By *oorlandtwoCouple
5 weeks ago

Stoke on Trent


"Democrats in the US Senate have written to Defence Secretary Pete Hegseth demanding answers about the strike on a primary school in Iran that Iranian officials say killed 168 people, including about 110 children.

US media have reported that US military investigators believe American forces were likely responsible for hitting the school unintentionally at the start of the joint US-Israeli operation.

What will father of four Hesgeth say about it?

Good luck trying to pin it on Teflon Trump."

Trump didn’t load the co-ordinates did he, I doubt that he even picked or new the target and its location

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By *oorlandtwoCouple
5 weeks ago

Stoke on Trent


"Interesting topic on war crimes and the good ol’ US intelligence not knowing a weapon of mass destruction from a lamppost.

The US military has been guilty of war crimes since the 4th of July 1776.

There used to be a website where you could try and horribly fail to find a day where the US military was not involved in some skirmish somewhere in the world.

More Allies die from American fire than anything else during every conflict where we have stood side by side

As for innocent kids

Do I begin with Hue Offensive Vietnam 1967 or can I go further back "

Can actually quantify those who’ve died from blue on blue as opposed to direct fired munitions

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By *abioMan
5 weeks ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Democrats in the US Senate have written to Defence Secretary Pete Hegseth demanding answers about the strike on a primary school in Iran that Iranian officials say killed 168 people, including about 110 children.

US media have reported that US military investigators believe American forces were likely responsible for hitting the school unintentionally at the start of the joint US-Israeli operation.

What will father of four Hesgeth say about it?

Good luck trying to pin it on Teflon Trump.

Trump didn’t load the co-ordinates did he, I doubt that he even picked or new the target and its location "

They will get the highest person up the food chain who authorised the target list..

If they didn’t have a national security meeting beforehand that would be Hegseth

If they did which I assume they probably would have done to authorise the entire mission since it was on night 1… then you could get trump

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By *eroy1000Man
5 weeks ago

milton keynes


"I’m doubtful the US deliberately targeted schoolchildren. There wouldn’t seem to be much point.

Iran however seems to merrily lob missiles at civilian targets on a daily basis.

Iran weren’t lobbing missiles at anyone until Trump started the attacks.

Horrid regime I agree, four weeks on 160 school kids and teachers killed, 1500 odd civilians, global fuel prices up, uk mortgage / swap rates up, shipping insurance increased, a few US service personnel killed.

Despite claims of army, navy and air force destroyed, Iran still has the capability to shoot down an F15 "

It looks like there will be lots of enquiries, reports, accusations and possibly hearings once this is all over. Presumably Iran continually and deliberately targeting civilian infrastructure is a crime as well. I don't think the fact that the US and Israel fired first stops this being a crime, but maybe it does as all the focus on the possible crimes seems to be on the US. For a country that were defeated weeks ago they certainly seem to be good at shooting planes down the longer this goes on

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By *e-OptimistMan
5 weeks ago

Stalybridge


"Democrats in the US Senate have written to Defence Secretary Pete Hegseth demanding answers about the strike on a primary school in Iran that Iranian officials say killed 168 people, including about 110 children.

US media have reported that US military investigators believe American forces were likely responsible for hitting the school unintentionally at the start of the joint US-Israeli operation.

What will father of four Hesgeth say about it?

Good luck trying to pin it on Teflon Trump.

Trump didn’t load the co-ordinates did he, I doubt that he even picked or new the target and its location "

As Harry Truman said "the buck stops here". If you are in the big seat you are ultimately responsible for the actions carried out under your stewardship.

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By *arry and MegsCouple
5 weeks ago

Ipswich


"Democrats in the US Senate have written to Defence Secretary Pete Hegseth demanding answers about the strike on a primary school in Iran that Iranian officials say killed 168 people, including about 110 children.

US media have reported that US military investigators believe American forces were likely responsible for hitting the school unintentionally at the start of the joint US-Israeli operation.

What will father of four Hesgeth say about it?

Good luck trying to pin it on Teflon Trump.

Trump didn’t load the co-ordinates did he, I doubt that he even picked or new the target and its location

They will get the highest person up the food chain who authorised the target list..

If they didn’t have a national security meeting beforehand that would be Hegseth

If they did which I assume they probably would have done to authorise the entire mission since it was on night 1… then you could get trump "

🙏

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By *erryspringerMan
5 weeks ago

Glasgow


"Democrats in the US Senate have written to Defence Secretary Pete Hegseth demanding answers about the strike on a primary school in Iran that Iranian officials say killed 168 people, including about 110 children.

US media have reported that US military investigators believe American forces were likely responsible for hitting the school unintentionally at the start of the joint US-Israeli operation.

What will father of four Hesgeth say about it?

Good luck trying to pin it on Teflon Trump.

Trump didn’t load the co-ordinates did he, I doubt that he even picked or new the target and its location

As Harry Truman said "the buck stops here". If you are in the big seat you are ultimately responsible for the actions carried out under your stewardship."

Am sure if it was a target to boast about, he would certainly be claiming the applause for it, on his un(Truth) platform....

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By *esi70Man
5 weeks ago

Blackburn


"I’m doubtful the US deliberately targeted schoolchildren. There wouldn’t seem to be much point.

Iran however seems to merrily lob missiles at civilian targets on a daily basis.

In the last week the US and Israel have lobbed missiles at water plants, at a children’s hospital, and at a world renowned medical and pharmaceutical facility…

Trump literally gave the game away by saying civilian infrastructure such as power plants would be next…"

When it comes to certain countries many people are blinkered. Whilst many more believe their media and propaganda.

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