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"Not sure it's a subject for entertainment purposes but heh." Feel free to scroll on by 👋👋 | |||
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"How long can the US keep launching million dollar missiles to knock out toy airplanes " I’d say forever from a purely financial point of view. | |||
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"How long can the US keep launching million dollar missiles to knock out toy airplanes I’d say forever from a purely financial point of view. " Midterms are coming and "gas" prices are rising .. the most unpopular trend in the US with voters and he knows that. Never mind the rest of the shit storm | |||
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"How long can the US keep launching million dollar missiles to knock out toy airplanes " If and its a big if it prevents Iran having a weapons grade nuke and still calling for death to Israel and the States can they afford not to..? | |||
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"How long can the US keep launching million dollar missiles to knock out toy airplanes If and its a big if it prevents Iran having a weapons grade nuke and still calling for death to Israel and the States can they afford not to..?" Precisely, he's poked the fire now and keeps stoking it with social media rants he can't pull out. It's going to require some interesting strategy | |||
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"Not sure it's a subject for entertainment purposes but heh." Wrong again, have a look at the official white house videos ... "The White House is promoting its war with Iran via videos on social media featuring the popular video game "Call of Duty," a Pitbull song and even SpongeBob SquarePants. Foreign Policy Magazine editor-in-chief Ravi Agrawal says the administration is acting callous and calls the posts “macho in a way that is gross.” " | |||
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"How long can the US keep launching million dollar missiles to knock out toy airplanes If and its a big if it prevents Iran having a weapons grade nuke and still calling for death to Israel and the States can they afford not to..? Precisely, he's poked the fire now and keeps stoking it with social media rants he can't pull out. It's going to require some interesting strategy " 
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"Not sure it's a subject for entertainment purposes but heh. Wrong again, have a look at the official white house videos ... "The White House is promoting its war with Iran via videos on social media featuring the popular video game "Call of Duty," a Pitbull song and even SpongeBob SquarePants. Foreign Policy Magazine editor-in-chief Ravi Agrawal says the administration is acting callous and calls the posts “macho in a way that is gross.” "" They're playing a macho cliche and phrases from the movies sweepstake. | |||
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"Not sure it's a subject for entertainment purposes but heh. Feel free to scroll on by 👋👋" No it's fine, I'll comment as I think fit. | |||
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"Not sure it's a subject for entertainment purposes but heh. Wrong again, have a look at the official white house videos ... "The White House is promoting its war with Iran via videos on social media featuring the popular video game "Call of Duty," a Pitbull song and even SpongeBob SquarePants. Foreign Policy Magazine editor-in-chief Ravi Agrawal says the administration is acting callous and calls the posts “macho in a way that is gross.” "" Well, if it makes you laugh that's a good thing surely ? | |||
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"How long can the US keep launching million dollar missiles to knock out toy airplanes I’d say forever from a purely financial point of view. Midterms are coming and "gas" prices are rising .. the most unpopular trend in the US with voters and he knows that. Never mind the rest of the shit storm " Two things cost this country the shirt off our backs and them some. Buying s l @ v e freedom and winning WWII. We didn’t have to do either, we could have left Europe to the Germans. Yes the V1 and especially the V2 rockets may have changed that later on as they were developed. But Rudolf Hess tried to broker peace long before that. Churchill refused. Striking similarities to the situation with Iran. They could have left the people to be slaughtered and eventually silenced. And in a few years time the regime has nukes and fires one at Isreal. Might never have happened, no way of knowing for sure. But Iran with weapons grade nukes is Hamas and Hezbollah with dirty bombs and plausible deniability. | |||
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"How long can the US keep launching million dollar missiles to knock out toy airplanes I’d say forever from a purely financial point of view. Midterms are coming and "gas" prices are rising .. the most unpopular trend in the US with voters and he knows that. Never mind the rest of the shit storm Two things cost this country the shirt off our backs and them some. Buying s l @ v e freedom and winning WWII. We didn’t have to do either, we could have left Europe to the Germans. Yes the V1 and especially the V2 rockets may have changed that later on as they were developed. But Rudolf Hess tried to broker peace long before that. Churchill refused. Striking similarities to the situation with Iran. They could have left the people to be slaughtered and eventually silenced. And in a few years time the regime has nukes and fires one at Isreal. Might never have happened, no way of knowing for sure. But Iran with weapons grade nukes is Hamas and Hezbollah with dirty bombs and plausible deniability. " It is important to understand that some people wanted Iran to carry on as it was, or at least were indifferent to 50,000 people being killed in less than a week. When I started a thread on the subject hardly anyone commented. The same people would laugh themselves silly if Israel and its people were all slaughtered, or if the US suffered badly in some way. As they say, when people show you who they are, believe them.😕 | |||
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"How long can the US keep launching million dollar missiles to knock out toy airplanes I’d say forever from a purely financial point of view. Midterms are coming and "gas" prices are rising .. the most unpopular trend in the US with voters and he knows that. Never mind the rest of the shit storm Two things cost this country the shirt off our backs and them some. Buying s l @ v e freedom and winning WWII. We didn’t have to do either, we could have left Europe to the Germans. Yes the V1 and especially the V2 rockets may have changed that later on as they were developed. But Rudolf Hess tried to broker peace long before that. Churchill refused. Striking similarities to the situation with Iran. They could have left the people to be slaughtered and eventually silenced. And in a few years time the regime has nukes and fires one at Isreal. Might never have happened, no way of knowing for sure. But Iran with weapons grade nukes is Hamas and Hezbollah with dirty bombs and plausible deniability. " Breaking story today that the wife of New York Democrat Mayor Madmani liked multiple posts endorsing the October 7th terrorist attacks. Its hard to underestimate the anti semitism and hatred for America (whoever is in charge, Trump is just an excuse) on the political left, so of course they want the action against Iran to fail. | |||
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"I am curious to understand how unconditional an “unconditional surrender” actually is. I would have assumed that meant that the Islamic Republic ceases to be but my guess is that it will mean something much less when Trump finally decides it has happened. Hamas has shown in Gaza that it is possible to maintain a presence despite an incredibly intensive air and ground campaign in a much smaller and more tightly controlled environment. Iran is huge and it stretches credulity to think that an air campaign will simply be enough to achieve the “unconditional surrender” of a government that has been a pariah for decades." I don't think it will mean the Islamic Republic will cease to be (unfortunately). If a leader who can be found who Trump believes won't pursue the nuclear programme or back terrorist proxies (at threat of certain death if they do) then I can see a deal being done. Look at his approach to Venezuela where he was happy to remove Maduro but work with one if his allies. | |||
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"I am curious to understand how unconditional an “unconditional surrender” actually is. I would have assumed that meant that the Islamic Republic ceases to be but my guess is that it will mean something much less when Trump finally decides it has happened. Hamas has shown in Gaza that it is possible to maintain a presence despite an incredibly intensive air and ground campaign in a much smaller and more tightly controlled environment. Iran is huge and it stretches credulity to think that an air campaign will simply be enough to achieve the “unconditional surrender” of a government that has been a pariah for decades. I don't think it will mean the Islamic Republic will cease to be (unfortunately). If a leader who can be found who Trump believes won't pursue the nuclear programme or back terrorist proxies (at threat of certain death if they do) then I can see a deal being done. Look at his approach to Venezuela where he was happy to remove Maduro but work with one if his allies." Happy to take control of Venezuela oil production | |||
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"How long can the US keep launching million dollar missiles to knock out toy airplanes I’d say forever from a purely financial point of view. Midterms are coming and "gas" prices are rising .. the most unpopular trend in the US with voters and he knows that. Never mind the rest of the shit storm Two things cost this country the shirt off our backs and them some. Buying s l @ v e freedom and winning WWII. We didn’t have to do either, we could have left Europe to the Germans. Yes the V1 and especially the V2 rockets may have changed that later on as they were developed. But Rudolf Hess tried to broker peace long before that. Churchill refused. Striking similarities to the situation with Iran. They could have left the people to be slaughtered and eventually silenced. And in a few years time the regime has nukes and fires one at Isreal. Might never have happened, no way of knowing for sure. But Iran with weapons grade nukes is Hamas and Hezbollah with dirty bombs and plausible deniability. It is important to understand that some people wanted Iran to carry on as it was, or at least were indifferent to 50,000 people being killed in less than a week. When I started a thread on the subject hardly anyone commented. The same people would laugh themselves silly if Israel and its people were all slaughtered, or if the US suffered badly in some way. As they say, when people show you who they are, believe them.😕" What ? | |||
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"Not sure it's a subject for entertainment purposes but heh. Wrong again, have a look at the official white house videos ... "The White House is promoting its war with Iran via videos on social media featuring the popular video game "Call of Duty," a Pitbull song and even SpongeBob SquarePants. Foreign Policy Magazine editor-in-chief Ravi Agrawal says the administration is acting callous and calls the posts “macho in a way that is gross.” " Well, if it makes you laugh that's a good thing surely ?" What ? | |||
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"Not sure it's a subject for entertainment purposes but heh. Wrong again, have a look at the official white house videos ... "The White House is promoting its war with Iran via videos on social media featuring the popular video game "Call of Duty," a Pitbull song and even SpongeBob SquarePants. Foreign Policy Magazine editor-in-chief Ravi Agrawal says the administration is acting callous and calls the posts “macho in a way that is gross.” " Well, if it makes you laugh that's a good thing surely ? What ?" We all like a laugh don't we ? | |||
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"Not sure it's a subject for entertainment purposes but heh. Wrong again, have a look at the official white house videos ... "The White House is promoting its war with Iran via videos on social media featuring the popular video game "Call of Duty," a Pitbull song and even SpongeBob SquarePants. Foreign Policy Magazine editor-in-chief Ravi Agrawal says the administration is acting callous and calls the posts “macho in a way that is gross.” " Well, if it makes you laugh that's a good thing surely ? What ? We all like a laugh don't we ?" Only the sickest of people would laugh at others being bombed daily and a probably unarmed ship being sunk by a submarine and the crew abandoned to die, similar to the Nazis in WW2 would have done, but if that how you get your laughs that's on you | |||
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"Not sure it's a subject for entertainment purposes but heh. Wrong again, have a look at the official white house videos ... "The White House is promoting its war with Iran via videos on social media featuring the popular video game "Call of Duty," a Pitbull song and even SpongeBob SquarePants. Foreign Policy Magazine editor-in-chief Ravi Agrawal says the administration is acting callous and calls the posts “macho in a way that is gross.” " Well, if it makes you laugh that's a good thing surely ? What ? We all like a laugh don't we ? Only the sickest of people would laugh at others being bombed daily and a probably unarmed ship being sunk by a submarine and the crew abandoned to die, similar to the Nazis in WW2 would have done, but if that how you get your laughs that's on you" I don't understand, you were the person who said the WH videos were entertaining.🤷 | |||
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"Not sure it's a subject for entertainment purposes but heh. Wrong again, have a look at the official white house videos ... "The White House is promoting its war with Iran via videos on social media featuring the popular video game "Call of Duty," a Pitbull song and even SpongeBob SquarePants. Foreign Policy Magazine editor-in-chief Ravi Agrawal says the administration is acting callous and calls the posts “macho in a way that is gross.” " Well, if it makes you laugh that's a good thing surely ? What ? We all like a laugh don't we ? Only the sickest of people would laugh at others being bombed daily and a probably unarmed ship being sunk by a submarine and the crew abandoned to die, similar to the Nazis in WW2 would have done, but if that how you get your laughs that's on you" I said this wasn't a subject for entertainment and you literally said 'wrong again' !!! | |||
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"Not sure it's a subject for entertainment purposes but heh. Wrong again, have a look at the official white house videos ... "The White House is promoting its war with Iran via videos on social media featuring the popular video game "Call of Duty," a Pitbull song and even SpongeBob SquarePants. Foreign Policy Magazine editor-in-chief Ravi Agrawal says the administration is acting callous and calls the posts “macho in a way that is gross.” " Well, if it makes you laugh that's a good thing surely ? What ? We all like a laugh don't we ? Only the sickest of people would laugh at others being bombed daily and a probably unarmed ship being sunk by a submarine and the crew abandoned to die, similar to the Nazis in WW2 would have done, but if that how you get your laughs that's on you I said this wasn't a subject for entertainment and you literally said 'wrong again' !!!" Apaet from YOU, who mentioned entertainment ? | |||
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"Not sure it's a subject for entertainment purposes but heh. Wrong again, have a look at the official white house videos ... "The White House is promoting its war with Iran via videos on social media featuring the popular video game "Call of Duty," a Pitbull song and even SpongeBob SquarePants. Foreign Policy Magazine editor-in-chief Ravi Agrawal says the administration is acting callous and calls the posts “macho in a way that is gross.” " Well, if it makes you laugh that's a good thing surely ? What ? We all like a laugh don't we ? Only the sickest of people would laugh at others being bombed daily and a probably unarmed ship being sunk by a submarine and the crew abandoned to die, similar to the Nazis in WW2 would have done, but if that how you get your laughs that's on you I said this wasn't a subject for entertainment and you literally said 'wrong again' !!! Apaet from YOU, who mentioned entertainment ?" Correct 🤷♂️ | |||
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"Not sure it's a subject for entertainment purposes but heh. Wrong again, have a look at the official white house videos ... "The White House is promoting its war with Iran via videos on social media featuring the popular video game "Call of Duty," a Pitbull song and even SpongeBob SquarePants. Foreign Policy Magazine editor-in-chief Ravi Agrawal says the administration is acting callous and calls the posts “macho in a way that is gross.” " Well, if it makes you laugh that's a good thing surely ? What ? We all like a laugh don't we ? Only the sickest of people would laugh at others being bombed daily and a probably unarmed ship being sunk by a submarine and the crew abandoned to die, similar to the Nazis in WW2 would have done, but if that how you get your laughs that's on you I said this wasn't a subject for entertainment and you literally said 'wrong again' !!! Apaet from YOU, who mentioned entertainment ?" Ah I see. So if I say that terrorism is bad and you say 'wrong again', that means I support terrorism and you're against it.🤣🤣🤣 | |||
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"Not sure it's a subject for entertainment purposes but heh. Wrong again, have a look at the official white house videos ... "The White House is promoting its war with Iran via videos on social media featuring the popular video game "Call of Duty," a Pitbull song and even SpongeBob SquarePants. Foreign Policy Magazine editor-in-chief Ravi Agrawal says the administration is acting callous and calls the posts “macho in a way that is gross.” " Well, if it makes you laugh that's a good thing surely ? What ? We all like a laugh don't we ? Only the sickest of people would laugh at others being bombed daily and a probably unarmed ship being sunk by a submarine and the crew abandoned to die, similar to the Nazis in WW2 would have done, but if that how you get your laughs that's on you I said this wasn't a subject for entertainment and you literally said 'wrong again' !!! Apaet from YOU, who mentioned entertainment ? Correct 🤷♂️" That's Entertainment | |||
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"Not sure it's a subject for entertainment purposes but heh. Wrong again, have a look at the official white house videos ... "The White House is promoting its war with Iran via videos on social media featuring the popular video game "Call of Duty," a Pitbull song and even SpongeBob SquarePants. Foreign Policy Magazine editor-in-chief Ravi Agrawal says the administration is acting callous and calls the posts “macho in a way that is gross.” " Well, if it makes you laugh that's a good thing surely ? What ? We all like a laugh don't we ? Only the sickest of people would laugh at others being bombed daily and a probably unarmed ship being sunk by a submarine and the crew abandoned to die, similar to the Nazis in WW2 would have done, but if that how you get your laughs that's on you I said this wasn't a subject for entertainment and you literally said 'wrong again' !!! Apaet from YOU, who mentioned entertainment ? Ah I see. So if I say that terrorism is bad and you say 'wrong again', that means I support terrorism and you're against it.🤣🤣🤣" What ? | |||
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"Not sure it's a subject for entertainment purposes but heh. Wrong again, have a look at the official white house videos ... "The White House is promoting its war with Iran via videos on social media featuring the popular video game "Call of Duty," a Pitbull song and even SpongeBob SquarePants. Foreign Policy Magazine editor-in-chief Ravi Agrawal says the administration is acting callous and calls the posts “macho in a way that is gross.” " Well, if it makes you laugh that's a good thing surely ? What ? We all like a laugh don't we ? Only the sickest of people would laugh at others being bombed daily and a probably unarmed ship being sunk by a submarine and the crew abandoned to die, similar to the Nazis in WW2 would have done, but if that how you get your laughs that's on you I said this wasn't a subject for entertainment and you literally said 'wrong again' !!! Apaet from YOU, who mentioned entertainment ? Correct 🤷♂️ That's Entertainment "What ? | |||
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"Not sure it's a subject for entertainment purposes but heh. Wrong again, have a look at the official white house videos ... "The White House is promoting its war with Iran via videos on social media featuring the popular video game "Call of Duty," a Pitbull song and even SpongeBob SquarePants. Foreign Policy Magazine editor-in-chief Ravi Agrawal says the administration is acting callous and calls the posts “macho in a way that is gross.” " Well, if it makes you laugh that's a good thing surely ? What ? We all like a laugh don't we ? Only the sickest of people would laugh at others being bombed daily and a probably unarmed ship being sunk by a submarine and the crew abandoned to die, similar to the Nazis in WW2 would have done, but if that how you get your laughs that's on you" So you’re against unarmed people being shot at and killed by the military and the survivors being left to their own devices and most likely die? What would you propose we do about that? If we can’t leave them to die I guess we have to try and stop the military shooting at them? | |||
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"The ship torpedoed in the video was a warship and therefore a "legitimate" target. It was certainly armed and given the opportunity would have attacked the submarine if it had the chance. " Was it ? Reports said it was returning unarmed from an international exercise in India ? | |||
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"Not sure it's a subject for entertainment purposes but heh. Wrong again, have a look at the official white house videos ... "The White House is promoting its war with Iran via videos on social media featuring the popular video game "Call of Duty," a Pitbull song and even SpongeBob SquarePants. Foreign Policy Magazine editor-in-chief Ravi Agrawal says the administration is acting callous and calls the posts “macho in a way that is gross.” " Well, if it makes you laugh that's a good thing surely ? What ? We all like a laugh don't we ? Only the sickest of people would laugh at others being bombed daily and a probably unarmed ship being sunk by a submarine and the crew abandoned to die, similar to the Nazis in WW2 would have done, but if that how you get your laughs that's on you So you’re against unarmed people being shot at and killed by the military and the survivors being left to their own devices and most likely die? What would you propose we do about that? If we can’t leave them to die I guess we have to try and stop the military shooting at them? " No, I'm not. Your just twisting. The vessel was sunk, under the Geneva convention the crew should not have been left to die Are you saying because it was Iranian then the Geneva convention doesn't apply ? Even the Nazis U boats rescued survivors until directly ordered not to do so by Hitler around 1942 | |||
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"Not sure it's a subject for entertainment purposes but heh. Wrong again, have a look at the official white house videos ... "The White House is promoting its war with Iran via videos on social media featuring the popular video game "Call of Duty," a Pitbull song and even SpongeBob SquarePants. Foreign Policy Magazine editor-in-chief Ravi Agrawal says the administration is acting callous and calls the posts “macho in a way that is gross.” " Well, if it makes you laugh that's a good thing surely ? What ? We all like a laugh don't we ? Only the sickest of people would laugh at others being bombed daily and a probably unarmed ship being sunk by a submarine and the crew abandoned to die, similar to the Nazis in WW2 would have done, but if that how you get your laughs that's on you So you’re against unarmed people being shot at and killed by the military and the survivors being left to their own devices and most likely die? What would you propose we do about that? If we can’t leave them to die I guess we have to try and stop the military shooting at them? No, I'm not. Your just twisting. The vessel was sunk, under the Geneva convention the crew should not have been left to die Are you saying because it was Iranian then the Geneva convention doesn't apply ? Even the Nazis U boats rescued survivors until directly ordered not to do so by Hitler around 1942" Under the Geneva Convention the government shouldn’t commit genocide against its people. Sometimes when bad people do bad things, you have to do bad things to stop them. Especially if you’ve been asking them nicely for 40 years | |||
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"The ship torpedoed in the video was a warship and therefore a "legitimate" target. It was certainly armed and given the opportunity would have attacked the submarine if it had the chance. Was it ? Reports said it was returning unarmed from an international exercise in India ?" 41 non combatant civilians killed today in Lebanon | |||
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"Not sure it's a subject for entertainment purposes but heh. Wrong again, have a look at the official white house videos ... "The White House is promoting its war with Iran via videos on social media featuring the popular video game "Call of Duty," a Pitbull song and even SpongeBob SquarePants. Foreign Policy Magazine editor-in-chief Ravi Agrawal says the administration is acting callous and calls the posts “macho in a way that is gross.” " Well, if it makes you laugh that's a good thing surely ? What ? We all like a laugh don't we ? Only the sickest of people would laugh at others being bombed daily and a probably unarmed ship being sunk by a submarine and the crew abandoned to die, similar to the Nazis in WW2 would have done, but if that how you get your laughs that's on you So you’re against unarmed people being shot at and killed by the military and the survivors being left to their own devices and most likely die? What would you propose we do about that? If we can’t leave them to die I guess we have to try and stop the military shooting at them? No, I'm not. Your just twisting. The vessel was sunk, under the Geneva convention the crew should not have been left to die Are you saying because it was Iranian then the Geneva convention doesn't apply ? Even the Nazis U boats rescued survivors until directly ordered not to do so by Hitler around 1942" The Geneva Convention is not the primary law for naval warfare. The law that applies is a mish mash of different conventions. Essentially if two nations are fighting then all enemy naval vessels can be targeted unilaterally and without warning as long as they are not in the waters of a neutral state. The Iranians were a viable target. As to whether a submarine is under obligation to rescue survivors then the conventions recognise that is not really tenable for a submarine to surface to rescue survivors (highly likely the sub would be attacked and where would they put the survivors anyway?). What is required is that the location of the incident is reported to the relevant authorities (in this case the Sri Lankans) as soon as possible. The fact that they were on scene so quickly would suggest this was done. | |||
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"Not sure it's a subject for entertainment purposes but heh. Wrong again, have a look at the official white house videos ... "The White House is promoting its war with Iran via videos on social media featuring the popular video game "Call of Duty," a Pitbull song and even SpongeBob SquarePants. Foreign Policy Magazine editor-in-chief Ravi Agrawal says the administration is acting callous and calls the posts “macho in a way that is gross.” " Well, if it makes you laugh that's a good thing surely ? What ? We all like a laugh don't we ? Only the sickest of people would laugh at others being bombed daily and a probably unarmed ship being sunk by a submarine and the crew abandoned to die, similar to the Nazis in WW2 would have done, but if that how you get your laughs that's on you So you’re against unarmed people being shot at and killed by the military and the survivors being left to their own devices and most likely die? What would you propose we do about that? If we can’t leave them to die I guess we have to try and stop the military shooting at them? No, I'm not. Your just twisting. The vessel was sunk, under the Geneva convention the crew should not have been left to die Are you saying because it was Iranian then the Geneva convention doesn't apply ? Even the Nazis U boats rescued survivors until directly ordered not to do so by Hitler around 1942 The Geneva Convention is not the primary law for naval warfare. The law that applies is a mish mash of different conventions. Essentially if two nations are fighting then all enemy naval vessels can be targeted unilaterally and without warning as long as they are not in the waters of a neutral state. The Iranians were a viable target. As to whether a submarine is under obligation to rescue survivors then the conventions recognise that is not really tenable for a submarine to surface to rescue survivors (highly likely the sub would be attacked and where would they put the survivors anyway?). What is required is that the location of the incident is reported to the relevant authorities (in this case the Sri Lankans) as soon as possible. The fact that they were on scene so quickly would suggest this was done." Quote from the Geneva conventions of 1949 Article 18(1) is among the most important provisions in the Second Convention. The search for and collection of casualties after a naval engagement, by the Parties to the conflict themselves, is paramount in achieving one of the core objectives of the Convention. When hostilities are taking place at sea,[2] the Parties to the conflict may be the only entities sufficiently close to the victims to search for and collect them. | |||
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"Not sure it's a subject for entertainment purposes but heh. Wrong again, have a look at the official white house videos ... "The White House is promoting its war with Iran via videos on social media featuring the popular video game "Call of Duty," a Pitbull song and even SpongeBob SquarePants. Foreign Policy Magazine editor-in-chief Ravi Agrawal says the administration is acting callous and calls the posts “macho in a way that is gross.” " Well, if it makes you laugh that's a good thing surely ? What ? We all like a laugh don't we ? Only the sickest of people would laugh at others being bombed daily and a probably unarmed ship being sunk by a submarine and the crew abandoned to die, similar to the Nazis in WW2 would have done, but if that how you get your laughs that's on you So you’re against unarmed people being shot at and killed by the military and the survivors being left to their own devices and most likely die? What would you propose we do about that? If we can’t leave them to die I guess we have to try and stop the military shooting at them? No, I'm not. Your just twisting. The vessel was sunk, under the Geneva convention the crew should not have been left to die Are you saying because it was Iranian then the Geneva convention doesn't apply ? Even the Nazis U boats rescued survivors until directly ordered not to do so by Hitler around 1942 Under the Geneva Convention the government shouldn’t commit genocide against its people. Sometimes when bad people do bad things, you have to do bad things to stop them. Especially if you’ve been asking them nicely for 40 years " So two wrongs would make a right in your eyes ? | |||
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"Not sure it's a subject for entertainment purposes but heh. Wrong again, have a look at the official white house videos ... "The White House is promoting its war with Iran via videos on social media featuring the popular video game "Call of Duty," a Pitbull song and even SpongeBob SquarePants. Foreign Policy Magazine editor-in-chief Ravi Agrawal says the administration is acting callous and calls the posts “macho in a way that is gross.” " Well, if it makes you laugh that's a good thing surely ? What ? We all like a laugh don't we ? Only the sickest of people would laugh at others being bombed daily and a probably unarmed ship being sunk by a submarine and the crew abandoned to die, similar to the Nazis in WW2 would have done, but if that how you get your laughs that's on you So you’re against unarmed people being shot at and killed by the military and the survivors being left to their own devices and most likely die? What would you propose we do about that? If we can’t leave them to die I guess we have to try and stop the military shooting at them? No, I'm not. Your just twisting. The vessel was sunk, under the Geneva convention the crew should not have been left to die Are you saying because it was Iranian then the Geneva convention doesn't apply ? Even the Nazis U boats rescued survivors until directly ordered not to do so by Hitler around 1942 The Geneva Convention is not the primary law for naval warfare. The law that applies is a mish mash of different conventions. Essentially if two nations are fighting then all enemy naval vessels can be targeted unilaterally and without warning as long as they are not in the waters of a neutral state. The Iranians were a viable target. As to whether a submarine is under obligation to rescue survivors then the conventions recognise that is not really tenable for a submarine to surface to rescue survivors (highly likely the sub would be attacked and where would they put the survivors anyway?). What is required is that the location of the incident is reported to the relevant authorities (in this case the Sri Lankans) as soon as possible. The fact that they were on scene so quickly would suggest this was done. Quote from the Geneva conventions of 1949 Article 18(1) is among the most important provisions in the Second Convention. The search for and collection of casualties after a naval engagement, by the Parties to the conflict themselves, is paramount in achieving one of the core objectives of the Convention. When hostilities are taking place at sea,[2] the Parties to the conflict may be the only entities sufficiently close to the victims to search for and collect them." My understanding is that the San Remo Manual of 1994 is the latest generally accepted definition of what is considered acceptable for naval warfare. That overrides the Geneva Convention because it is specific to a subset of warfare. It caveats the rescue of survivors where it is not practical to do so. Taking survivors onto a submarine in wartime is generally considered one of those areas. | |||
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As for future? Learn from history. The country will absorb the pain as long as it takes for the west to get bored or run out of money. Then take it all back again. | |||
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"How long can the US keep launching million dollar missiles to knock out toy airplanes I’d say forever from a purely financial point of view. Midterms are coming and "gas" prices are rising .. the most unpopular trend in the US with voters and he knows that. Never mind the rest of the shit storm Two things cost this country the shirt off our backs and them some. Buying s l @ v e freedom and winning WWII. We didn’t have to do either, we could have left Europe to the Germans. Yes the V1 and especially the V2 rockets may have changed that later on as they were developed. But Rudolf Hess tried to broker peace long before that. Churchill refused. Striking similarities to the situation with Iran. They could have left the people to be slaughtered and eventually silenced. And in a few years time the regime has nukes and fires one at Isreal. Might never have happened, no way of knowing for sure. But Iran with weapons grade nukes is Hamas and Hezbollah with dirty bombs and plausible deniability. It is important to understand that some people wanted Iran to carry on as it was, or at least were indifferent to 50,000 people being killed in less than a week. When I started a thread on the subject hardly anyone commented. The same people would laugh themselves silly if Israel and its people were all slaughtered, or if the US suffered badly in some way. As they say, when people show you who they are, believe them.😕" I think I may have mentioned before that the 50000 you stated were executed was absolutely tragic, they knew what was going to happen when they protested but the orange cunt told them on 13th January 2026 to keep protesting and he would protect them. He didn't and when he went in they had already been executed | |||
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"Not sure it's a subject for entertainment purposes but heh. Wrong again, have a look at the official white house videos ... "The White House is promoting its war with Iran via videos on social media featuring the popular video game "Call of Duty," a Pitbull song and even SpongeBob SquarePants. Foreign Policy Magazine editor-in-chief Ravi Agrawal says the administration is acting callous and calls the posts “macho in a way that is gross.” " Well, if it makes you laugh that's a good thing surely ? What ? We all like a laugh don't we ? Only the sickest of people would laugh at others being bombed daily and a probably unarmed ship being sunk by a submarine and the crew abandoned to die, similar to the Nazis in WW2 would have done, but if that how you get your laughs that's on you So you’re against unarmed people being shot at and killed by the military and the survivors being left to their own devices and most likely die? What would you propose we do about that? If we can’t leave them to die I guess we have to try and stop the military shooting at them? No, I'm not. Your just twisting. The vessel was sunk, under the Geneva convention the crew should not have been left to die Are you saying because it was Iranian then the Geneva convention doesn't apply ? Even the Nazis U boats rescued survivors until directly ordered not to do so by Hitler around 1942 Under the Geneva Convention the government shouldn’t commit genocide against its people. Sometimes when bad people do bad things, you have to do bad things to stop them. Especially if you’ve been asking them nicely for 40 years So two wrongs would make a right in your eyes ?" Why is it not possible for people to mean what they type? Sometimes you have to physically stop bad people doing bad things. Doing that isn’t wrong, so there is no “two wrongs” as you put it. The genocide committed by the Iranian government was wrong, stopping it isn’t! | |||
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"Not sure it's a subject for entertainment purposes but heh. Wrong again, have a look at the official white house videos ... "The White House is promoting its war with Iran via videos on social media featuring the popular video game "Call of Duty," a Pitbull song and even SpongeBob SquarePants. Foreign Policy Magazine editor-in-chief Ravi Agrawal says the administration is acting callous and calls the posts “macho in a way that is gross.” " Well, if it makes you laugh that's a good thing surely ? What ? We all like a laugh don't we ? Only the sickest of people would laugh at others being bombed daily and a probably unarmed ship being sunk by a submarine and the crew abandoned to die, similar to the Nazis in WW2 would have done, but if that how you get your laughs that's on you So you’re against unarmed people being shot at and killed by the military and the survivors being left to their own devices and most likely die? What would you propose we do about that? If we can’t leave them to die I guess we have to try and stop the military shooting at them? No, I'm not. Your just twisting. The vessel was sunk, under the Geneva convention the crew should not have been left to die Are you saying because it was Iranian then the Geneva convention doesn't apply ? Even the Nazis U boats rescued survivors until directly ordered not to do so by Hitler around 1942 Under the Geneva Convention the government shouldn’t commit genocide against its people. Sometimes when bad people do bad things, you have to do bad things to stop them. Especially if you’ve been asking them nicely for 40 years So two wrongs would make a right in your eyes ? Why is it not possible for people to mean what they type? Sometimes you have to physically stop bad people doing bad things. Doing that isn’t wrong, so there is no “two wrongs” as you put it. The genocide committed by the Iranian government was wrong, stopping it isn’t! " ‘Merica! Fuck Yeah!’ | |||
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"How long can the US keep launching million dollar missiles to knock out toy airplanes " Trump has all the money he took from tariffs to buy missiles but the Iranians are said to have 30,000 Sharhed drones at present. That is 30 billion dollars on a 1 to 1 basis. A very expensive way to avoid talking about the Epstein files. | |||
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"How long can the US keep launching million dollar missiles to knock out toy airplanes Trump has all the money he took from tariffs to buy missiles but the Iranians are said to have 30,000 Sharhed drones at present. That is 30 billion dollars on a 1 to 1 basis. A very expensive way to avoid talking about the Epstein files. "You can't just buy missiles, there is a limited production capacity If Iran manages to hang on and keep firing cheap drones US and Israel will run out of interceptors. Then what? You've either got to put boots on the ground or let the war fizzle out. Given the difficulty and costs of invading it will probably be the second option and hope Iran's capacity has been degraded enough to keep it quiet for a few years. | |||
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"How long can the US keep launching million dollar missiles to knock out toy airplanes Trump has all the money he took from tariffs to buy missiles but the Iranians are said to have 30,000 Sharhed drones at present. That is 30 billion dollars on a 1 to 1 basis. A very expensive way to avoid talking about the Epstein files.
You can't just buy missiles, there is a limited production capacity If Iran manages to hang on and keep firing cheap drones US and Israel will run out of interceptors. Then what? You've either got to put boots on the ground or let the war fizzle out. Given the difficulty and costs of invading it will probably be the second option and hope Iran's capacity has been degraded enough to keep it quiet for a few years."Iran's military is in ruins. It has turned most of the Middle East against it. Hezbollah like Hamas massively weakened. Israel can take out its leaders whenever it likes. All in less than a weeks actions with no ground forces. | |||
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"How long can the US keep launching million dollar missiles to knock out toy airplanes Trump has all the money he took from tariffs to buy missiles but the Iranians are said to have 30,000 Sharhed drones at present. That is 30 billion dollars on a 1 to 1 basis. A very expensive way to avoid talking about the Epstein files.
You can't just buy missiles, there is a limited production capacity If Iran manages to hang on and keep firing cheap drones US and Israel will run out of interceptors. Then what? You've either got to put boots on the ground or let the war fizzle out. Given the difficulty and costs of invading it will probably be the second option and hope Iran's capacity has been degraded enough to keep it quiet for a few years.
Iran's military is in ruins. It has turned most of the Middle East against it. Hezbollah like Hamas massively weakened. Israel can take out its leaders whenever it likes. All in less than a weeks actions with no ground forces."Do you have access to briefings? Or are you basing this upon the media you consume? Do you believe the US military death toll of 7 being reported? | |||
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"Looking increasingly likely that the Iranian school was indeed hit by the USA. I wonder if Trump will apologise for the incident or the lies afterwards? " Yes it was a double tap, a second tomahawk missile was sent to take out the parents looking for their children in the rubble. | |||
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"Looking increasingly likely that the Iranian school was indeed hit by the USA. I wonder if Trump will apologise for the incident or the lies afterwards? " Neither, he says Tomahawks are ‘used by other nations’. Reported the strike demolished approximately half the school, killing dozens of seven- to 12-year-old girls as they attended morning classes. | |||
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"Thankfully it looks like Trump is beginning to get bored with pummelling Iran. If that’s the case & the regime stays in power & now becomes doubly determined to develop a nuke you would have to argue what was the point? I think we have to get real. Weapons development & proliferation is only going one way. Nuclear weapons are old technology. Hiroshima was over 80 years ago. Nobody had a machine gun 200 years ago. Ok, nukes require a bit more nous than machine guns but it’s clear to me if the Iranians really really want one they will probably get one. And what then?" Any reasonable person could (and did) ask “what is the point?” last Saturday. The regime will not fall due to aerial attack. They will still harbour nuclear ambitions. One of the more interesting points for me from this episode is that it has shown the limits of US military spending capability. It has become quite clear that there a meaningful concerns back home as to longer term production and supply issues after a relatively short (timewise) bombardment. The US approach of ultra high tech warefare is hideously expensive, especially when defending against ultra cheap weaponry on the other side. That will be a lesson for many people. The US will have spent a fortune for no meaningful change on the ground and made the limits of their approach clear to defenders in other places. China will be ramping up productions of swarm missiles. We should do the same to protect our shores. | |||
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"Thankfully it looks like Trump is beginning to get bored with pummelling Iran. If that’s the case & the regime stays in power & now becomes doubly determined to develop a nuke you would have to argue what was the point? I think we have to get real. Weapons development & proliferation is only going one way. Nuclear weapons are old technology. Hiroshima was over 80 years ago. Nobody had a machine gun 200 years ago. Ok, nukes require a bit more nous than machine guns but it’s clear to me if the Iranians really really want one they will probably get one. And what then? Any reasonable person could (and did) ask “what is the point?” last Saturday. The regime will not fall due to aerial attack. They will still harbour nuclear ambitions. One of the more interesting points for me from this episode is that it has shown the limits of US military spending capability. It has become quite clear that there a meaningful concerns back home as to longer term production and supply issues after a relatively short (timewise) bombardment. The US approach of ultra high tech warefare is hideously expensive, especially when defending against ultra cheap weaponry on the other side. That will be a lesson for many people. The US will have spent a fortune for no meaningful change on the ground and made the limits of their approach clear to defenders in other places. China will be ramping up productions of swarm missiles. We should do the same to protect our shores." lol we cant even defend our shores from people in dinghies what makes you think we could defend them from weaponary | |||
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"lol we cant even defend our shores from people in dinghies what makes you think we could defend them from weaponary" Perhaps we could use the people in dinghies to... Two birds, one... Hmm 🧐 | |||
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"Thankfully it looks like Trump is beginning to get bored with pummelling Iran. If that’s the case & the regime stays in power & now becomes doubly determined to develop a nuke you would have to argue what was the point? I think we have to get real. Weapons development & proliferation is only going one way. Nuclear weapons are old technology. Hiroshima was over 80 years ago. Nobody had a machine gun 200 years ago. Ok, nukes require a bit more nous than machine guns but it’s clear to me if the Iranians really really want one they will probably get one. And what then? Any reasonable person could (and did) ask “what is the point?” last Saturday. The regime will not fall due to aerial attack. They will still harbour nuclear ambitions. One of the more interesting points for me from this episode is that it has shown the limits of US military spending capability. It has become quite clear that there a meaningful concerns back home as to longer term production and supply issues after a relatively short (timewise) bombardment. The US approach of ultra high tech warefare is hideously expensive, especially when defending against ultra cheap weaponry on the other side. That will be a lesson for many people. The US will have spent a fortune for no meaningful change on the ground and made the limits of their approach clear to defenders in other places. China will be ramping up productions of swarm missiles. We should do the same to protect our shores." The USA is a giant Ponzi scheme run on the abuse of overprinting dollars courtesy of the $ being the reserve currency & the rest of the globe are slowly catching on hence the likes of BRICS beginning to emerge. Hence ‘expense’ to the US meaning simply ‘let’s type some more zeros on a screen & boost our bank balance’. As you say though, other than printing money out of thin air, production is another matter entirely & in this regard, China for one surely surpasses the US & in fact leaves them in the dust. Pax Americana is slowly coming to an end. Not quite yet, but rest assured, it’s in the post. A multi polar world is on the horizon. | |||
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"lol we cant even defend our shores from people in dinghies what makes you think we could defend them from weaponary Perhaps we could use the people in dinghies to... Two birds, one... Hmm 🧐" Been watching too much Ricky Gervais... | |||
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"Looking increasingly likely that the Iranian school was indeed hit by the USA. I wonder if Trump will apologise for the incident or the lies afterwards? Neither, he says Tomahawks are ‘used by other nations’. Reported the strike demolished approximately half the school, killing dozens of seven- to 12-year-old girls as they attended morning classes." He needs to be 'rebreiefed'.. Only the UK and the USA use them.. Unless of course the IRGC had prior intelligence of the exact target and the time etc and decided to set a false flag .. This is another awful collateral damage by the Americans.. | |||
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"Looking increasingly likely that the Iranian school was indeed hit by the USA. I wonder if Trump will apologise for the incident or the lies afterwards? Neither, he says Tomahawks are ‘used by other nations’. Reported the strike demolished approximately half the school, killing dozens of seven- to 12-year-old girls as they attended morning classes. He needs to be 'rebreiefed'.. Only the UK and the USA use them.. Unless of course the IRGC had prior intelligence of the exact target and the time etc and decided to set a false flag .. This is another awful collateral damage by the Americans.." 'Interesting' article prominent on the BBC website claiming this was an American missile put these words right at the end: 'An ongoing internet blackout in Iran has made it difficult to independently verify details of the incident. 'Restrictions on international journalists' ability to report freely in Iran makes it very hard to be sure exactly what happened in Minab on 28 February.' When thousands of Iranians were being slaughtered every day by the regime the BBC justified its lack of coverage with exactly the same explanation, but it has no hesitation making confident claims about this attack. | |||
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"Looking increasingly likely that the Iranian school was indeed hit by the USA. I wonder if Trump will apologise for the incident or the lies afterwards? Neither, he says Tomahawks are ‘used by other nations’. Reported the strike demolished approximately half the school, killing dozens of seven- to 12-year-old girls as they attended morning classes. He needs to be 'rebreiefed'.. Only the UK and the USA use them.. Unless of course the IRGC had prior intelligence of the exact target and the time etc and decided to set a false flag .. This is another awful collateral damage by the Americans.." Yeah and some people will go to the ends of the earth to defend the indefensible. | |||
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"Looking increasingly likely that the Iranian school was indeed hit by the USA. I wonder if Trump will apologise for the incident or the lies afterwards? Neither, he says Tomahawks are ‘used by other nations’. Reported the strike demolished approximately half the school, killing dozens of seven- to 12-year-old girls as they attended morning classes. He needs to be 'rebreiefed'.. Only the UK and the USA use them.. Unless of course the IRGC had prior intelligence of the exact target and the time etc and decided to set a false flag .. This is another awful collateral damage by the Americans.. 'Interesting' article prominent on the BBC website claiming this was an American missile put these words right at the end: 'An ongoing internet blackout in Iran has made it difficult to independently verify details of the incident. 'Restrictions on international journalists' ability to report freely in Iran makes it very hard to be sure exactly what happened in Minab on 28 February.' When thousands of Iranians were being slaughtered every day by the regime the BBC justified its lack of coverage with exactly the same explanation, but it has no hesitation making confident claims about this attack." The victims are the innocents.. The cause of the deaths was the Iranian regime and a 'targeting error' by the Americans in the case of the school.. The loss of lives for the families concerned is equally devastating.. The evidence used in the tomahawk once the video was analysed all comes from outside iran.. | |||
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"Looking increasingly likely that the Iranian school was indeed hit by the USA. I wonder if Trump will apologise for the incident or the lies afterwards? Neither, he says Tomahawks are ‘used by other nations’. Reported the strike demolished approximately half the school, killing dozens of seven- to 12-year-old girls as they attended morning classes. He needs to be 'rebreiefed'.. Only the UK and the USA use them.. Unless of course the IRGC had prior intelligence of the exact target and the time etc and decided to set a false flag .. This is another awful collateral damage by the Americans.. Yeah and some people will go to the ends of the earth to defend the indefensible. " Or use it to attack the media outlet who reported it pointing the finger at their deity and feeding their incessant hatred of the messenger.. | |||
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"Looking increasingly likely that the Iranian school was indeed hit by the USA. I wonder if Trump will apologise for the incident or the lies afterwards? Neither, he says Tomahawks are ‘used by other nations’. Reported the strike demolished approximately half the school, killing dozens of seven- to 12-year-old girls as they attended morning classes. He needs to be 'rebreiefed'.. Only the UK and the USA use them.. Unless of course the IRGC had prior intelligence of the exact target and the time etc and decided to set a false flag .. This is another awful collateral damage by the Americans.. Yeah and some people will go to the ends of the earth to defend the indefensible. Or use it to attack the media outlet who reported it pointing the finger at their deity and feeding their incessant hatred of the messenger.. " Oh dear 🤣 | |||
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"Looking increasingly likely that the Iranian school was indeed hit by the USA. I wonder if Trump will apologise for the incident or the lies afterwards? Neither, he says Tomahawks are ‘used by other nations’. Reported the strike demolished approximately half the school, killing dozens of seven- to 12-year-old girls as they attended morning classes. He needs to be 'rebreiefed'.. Only the UK and the USA use them.. Unless of course the IRGC had prior intelligence of the exact target and the time etc and decided to set a false flag .. This is another awful collateral damage by the Americans.. Yeah and some people will go to the ends of the earth to defend the indefensible. " Perhaps you could provide a link to footage of this attack which doesn't come from the Iranian regime ? | |||
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"Looking increasingly likely that the Iranian school was indeed hit by the USA. I wonder if Trump will apologise for the incident or the lies afterwards? Neither, he says Tomahawks are ‘used by other nations’. Reported the strike demolished approximately half the school, killing dozens of seven- to 12-year-old girls as they attended morning classes. He needs to be 'rebreiefed'.. Only the UK and the USA use them.. Unless of course the IRGC had prior intelligence of the exact target and the time etc and decided to set a false flag .. This is another awful collateral damage by the Americans.. Yeah and some people will go to the ends of the earth to defend the indefensible. Or use it to attack the media outlet who reported it pointing the finger at their deity and feeding their incessant hatred of the messenger.. Oh dear 🤣" Undeniably the case whatever tge emoji.. | |||
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"Looking increasingly likely that the Iranian school was indeed hit by the USA. I wonder if Trump will apologise for the incident or the lies afterwards? Neither, he says Tomahawks are ‘used by other nations’. Reported the strike demolished approximately half the school, killing dozens of seven- to 12-year-old girls as they attended morning classes. He needs to be 'rebreiefed'.. Only the UK and the USA use them.. Unless of course the IRGC had prior intelligence of the exact target and the time etc and decided to set a false flag .. This is another awful collateral damage by the Americans.. Yeah and some people will go to the ends of the earth to defend the indefensible. Or use it to attack the media outlet who reported it pointing the finger at their deity and feeding their incessant hatred of the messenger.. Oh dear 🤣 Undeniably the case whatever tge emoji.. "I was laughing at your entirely predictable use of an ad hominen reply rather than address the points I made, and the quotes regarding lack of independent verification that came from the 'messenger' I apparently hate. 🤭 | |||
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"Looking increasingly likely that the Iranian school was indeed hit by the USA. I wonder if Trump will apologise for the incident or the lies afterwards? Neither, he says Tomahawks are ‘used by other nations’. Reported the strike demolished approximately half the school, killing dozens of seven- to 12-year-old girls as they attended morning classes. He needs to be 'rebreiefed'.. Only the UK and the USA use them.. Unless of course the IRGC had prior intelligence of the exact target and the time etc and decided to set a false flag .. This is another awful collateral damage by the Americans.. Yeah and some people will go to the ends of the earth to defend the indefensible. Or use it to attack the media outlet who reported it pointing the finger at their deity and feeding their incessant hatred of the messenger.. Oh dear 🤣 Undeniably the case whatever tge emoji..
I was laughing at your entirely predictable use of an ad hominen reply rather than address the points I made, and the quotes regarding lack of independent verification that came from the 'messenger' I apparently hate. 🤭"Perhaps it would help if you respond to my reply instead of the one you did do.. Helps the thread flow better   | |||
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"Rest assured, if a Ukrainian school had been hit by a missile killing over 100 kids, the story would by front & centre in the western media within minutes & I’m pretty sure there would be little ambiguity & smoke screening as to who was highly likely to blame. Spot the difference?" He said other countries use Tomahawks apparently. 100 kids in Iran and north of 73, 000 in Gaza killed with USA bombs. | |||
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"Rest assured, if a Ukrainian school had been hit by a missile killing over 100 kids, the story would by front & centre in the western media within minutes & I’m pretty sure there would be little ambiguity & smoke screening as to who was highly likely to blame. Spot the difference? He said other countries use Tomahawks apparently. 100 kids in Iran and north of 73, 000 in Gaza killed with USA bombs. " Only the UK and Australia.. It was the Americans who hit the wrong target this time.. Obfuscation and deflection by some (not yourself) defies logic in this case.. Based of course on what we know now.. | |||
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"They have achieved regime change.. They've now got a younger Ayatollah who has lost his Dad, Mum, wife and a child.. A younger more angrier regime with the new head closer to the IRGC, the citizens who have opposed them in the past will be the ones to feel the change in the basements of the torture chambers of the new regime.." Exactly this. | |||
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"Looking increasingly likely that the Iranian school was indeed hit by the USA. I wonder if Trump will apologise for the incident or the lies afterwards? Neither, he says Tomahawks are ‘used by other nations’. Reported the strike demolished approximately half the school, killing dozens of seven- to 12-year-old girls as they attended morning classes. He needs to be 'rebreiefed'.. Only the UK and the USA use them.. Unless of course the IRGC had prior intelligence of the exact target and the time etc and decided to set a false flag .. This is another awful collateral damage by the Americans.. Yeah and some people will go to the ends of the earth to defend the indefensible. Or use it to attack the media outlet who reported it pointing the finger at their deity and feeding their incessant hatred of the messenger.. Oh dear 🤣 Undeniably the case whatever tge emoji..
I was laughing at your entirely predictable use of an ad hominen reply rather than address the points I made, and the quotes regarding lack of independent verification that came from the 'messenger' I apparently hate. 🤭
Perhaps it would help if you respond to my reply instead of the one you did do..
Helps the thread flow better "Except I did reply to your post to point out the BBCs own words about lack of independent verification or witnesses on the ground. You ignored that and made a personal attack on me in a reply to another poster. Curiously if you check the previous threads you'll find a regular poster justifying the lack of media coverage of the regime genocide on those very grounds that it was hard to verify reports from Iran, even though there were dozens of non regime videos of events, unlike now. | |||
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"Rest assured, if a Ukrainian school had been hit by a missile killing over 100 kids, the story would by front & centre in the western media within minutes & I’m pretty sure there would be little ambiguity & smoke screening as to who was highly likely to blame. Spot the difference?" Ukraine suffers fatal bomb attacks almost every day. If you've got a lot of time and a microscope you may find them mentioned on the BBC website. | |||
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"Rest assured, if a Ukrainian school had been hit by a missile killing over 100 kids, the story would by front & centre in the western media within minutes & I’m pretty sure there would be little ambiguity & smoke screening as to who was highly likely to blame. Spot the difference? He said other countries use Tomahawks apparently. 100 kids in Iran and north of 73, 000 in Gaza killed with USA bombs. " They have never sold tomahawk missiles to Iran, and Israel’s aircraft are not compatible to use them.. so we know it’s the US but they won’t admit it Also.. trump keeps alleging that Iran knew about and were partly to blame for the bombing of the USS Cole… even though it was in Yemen, that bombing was attributed to Al-queda, and I don’t think he realises they actually hate each other! But heck… Muslim is Muslim! | |||
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"Rest assured, if a Ukrainian school had been hit by a missile killing over 100 kids, the story would by front & centre in the western media within minutes & I’m pretty sure there would be little ambiguity & smoke screening as to who was highly likely to blame. Spot the difference? Ukraine suffers fatal bomb attacks almost every day. If you've got a lot of time and a microscope you may find them mentioned on the BBC website." If Putin even farts in the general direction of Ukraine the BBC have an ‘In Depth’ article all about it. They’d get days worth of spotlight coverage out of a school bombing. | |||
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"Rest assured, if a Ukrainian school had been hit by a missile killing over 100 kids, the story would by front & centre in the western media within minutes & I’m pretty sure there would be little ambiguity & smoke screening as to who was highly likely to blame. Spot the difference? Ukraine suffers fatal bomb attacks almost every day. If you've got a lot of time and a microscope you may find them mentioned on the BBC website. If Putin even farts in the general direction of Ukraine the BBC have an ‘In Depth’ article all about it. They’d get days worth of spotlight coverage out of a school bombing." Obviously untrue but facts seem to be in short supply on this thread. | |||
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"Looking increasingly likely that the Iranian school was indeed hit by the USA. I wonder if Trump will apologise for the incident or the lies afterwards? Neither, he says Tomahawks are ‘used by other nations’. Reported the strike demolished approximately half the school, killing dozens of seven- to 12-year-old girls as they attended morning classes. He needs to be 'rebreiefed'.. Only the UK and the USA use them.. Unless of course the IRGC had prior intelligence of the exact target and the time etc and decided to set a false flag .. This is another awful collateral damage by the Americans.. 'Interesting' article prominent on the BBC website claiming this was an American missile put these words right at the end: 'An ongoing internet blackout in Iran has made it difficult to independently verify details of the incident. 'Restrictions on international journalists' ability to report freely in Iran makes it very hard to be sure exactly what happened in Minab on 28 February.' When thousands of Iranians were being slaughtered every day by the regime the BBC justified its lack of coverage with exactly the same explanation, but it has no hesitation making confident claims about this attack." The BBC are not the only people to verify… both CNN and NBC have verified that it was tomahawk missiles that attacked the site Also.. where is the 50000 people killed in a week figure coming from, because even Iranian human rights organisations are quoting between 5000 and 7000 I know that is still bad… but over exaggerated figures are not really helping the case.. | |||
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"Looking increasingly likely that the Iranian school was indeed hit by the USA. I wonder if Trump will apologise for the incident or the lies afterwards? Neither, he says Tomahawks are ‘used by other nations’. Reported the strike demolished approximately half the school, killing dozens of seven- to 12-year-old girls as they attended morning classes. He needs to be 'rebreiefed'.. Only the UK and the USA use them.. Unless of course the IRGC had prior intelligence of the exact target and the time etc and decided to set a false flag .. This is another awful collateral damage by the Americans.. 'Interesting' article prominent on the BBC website claiming this was an American missile put these words right at the end: 'An ongoing internet blackout in Iran has made it difficult to independently verify details of the incident. 'Restrictions on international journalists' ability to report freely in Iran makes it very hard to be sure exactly what happened in Minab on 28 February.' When thousands of Iranians were being slaughtered every day by the regime the BBC justified its lack of coverage with exactly the same explanation, but it has no hesitation making confident claims about this attack. The BBC are not the only people to verify… both CNN and NBC have verified that it was tomahawk missiles that attacked the site Also.. where is the 50000 people killed in a week figure coming from, because even Iranian human rights organisations are quoting between 5000 and 7000 I know that is still bad… but over exaggerated figures are not really helping the case.." Oh Fabio, really ? | |||
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"Rest assured, if a Ukrainian school had been hit by a missile killing over 100 kids, the story would by front & centre in the western media within minutes & I’m pretty sure there would be little ambiguity & smoke screening as to who was highly likely to blame. Spot the difference? Ukraine suffers fatal bomb attacks almost every day. If you've got a lot of time and a microscope you may find them mentioned on the BBC website. If Putin even farts in the general direction of Ukraine the BBC have an ‘In Depth’ article all about it. They’d get days worth of spotlight coverage out of a school bombing. Obviously untrue but facts seem to be in short supply on this thread." Untrue, yeah right. We’ll have to agree to disagree then my friend. | |||
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"‘Five members of the Iranian women's football team have been granted humanitarian visas in Australia after their elimination in the Asian Cup, the government in Canberra says’ From Sharia to Shelias in the blink of an eye "They very publicly expressed anti-regime sentiment, which made it perilous for them to return. | |||
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They very publicly expressed anti-regime sentiment, which made it perilous for them to return."You would sadly fear for their families. | |||
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"Looking increasingly likely that the Iranian school was indeed hit by the USA. I wonder if Trump will apologise for the incident or the lies afterwards? Neither, he says Tomahawks are ‘used by other nations’. Reported the strike demolished approximately half the school, killing dozens of seven- to 12-year-old girls as they attended morning classes. He needs to be 'rebreiefed'.. Only the UK and the USA use them.. Unless of course the IRGC had prior intelligence of the exact target and the time etc and decided to set a false flag .. This is another awful collateral damage by the Americans.. Yeah and some people will go to the ends of the earth to defend the indefensible. Or use it to attack the media outlet who reported it pointing the finger at their deity and feeding their incessant hatred of the messenger.. Oh dear 🤣 Undeniably the case whatever tge emoji..
I was laughing at your entirely predictable use of an ad hominen reply rather than address the points I made, and the quotes regarding lack of independent verification that came from the 'messenger' I apparently hate. 🤭
Perhaps it would help if you respond to my reply instead of the one you did do..
Helps the thread flow better
Except I did reply to your post to point out the BBCs own words about lack of independent verification or witnesses on the ground. You ignored that and made a personal attack on me in a reply to another poster. Curiously if you check the previous threads you'll find a regular poster justifying the lack of media coverage of the regime genocide on those very grounds that it was hard to verify reports from Iran, even though there were dozens of non regime videos of events, unlike now. "Pointing out that you regularly deflect any input in any thread that rightly and stands up objectively whereby trump is criticised for what hes done wrongly is not a so called ' personal attack'.. Nor is you being told that on an issue you are incorrect as you've cried wolf before.. The facts so far in this instance point to a mistake that cost the lives of many children, yet instead you go straight in on a bbc rant.. Their loss is as bad as the loss you've consistently pointed out in the protests, yet your contributions on them clearly differ in how you've used those events.. | |||
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"‘Five members of the Iranian women's football team have been granted humanitarian visas in Australia after their elimination in the Asian Cup, the government in Canberra says’ From Sharia to Shelias in the blink of an eye
They very publicly expressed anti-regime sentiment, which made it perilous for them to return.
You would sadly fear for their families. "Agreed 👍 | |||
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"Looking increasingly likely that the Iranian school was indeed hit by the USA. I wonder if Trump will apologise for the incident or the lies afterwards? Neither, he says Tomahawks are ‘used by other nations’. Reported the strike demolished approximately half the school, killing dozens of seven- to 12-year-old girls as they attended morning classes. He needs to be 'rebreiefed'.. Only the UK and the USA use them.. Unless of course the IRGC had prior intelligence of the exact target and the time etc and decided to set a false flag .. This is another awful collateral damage by the Americans.. Yeah and some people will go to the ends of the earth to defend the indefensible. Or use it to attack the media outlet who reported it pointing the finger at their deity and feeding their incessant hatred of the messenger.. Oh dear 🤣 Undeniably the case whatever tge emoji..
I was laughing at your entirely predictable use of an ad hominen reply rather than address the points I made, and the quotes regarding lack of independent verification that came from the 'messenger' I apparently hate. 🤭
Perhaps it would help if you respond to my reply instead of the one you did do..
Helps the thread flow better
Except I did reply to your post to point out the BBCs own words about lack of independent verification or witnesses on the ground. You ignored that and made a personal attack on me in a reply to another poster. Curiously if you check the previous threads you'll find a regular poster justifying the lack of media coverage of the regime genocide on those very grounds that it was hard to verify reports from Iran, even though there were dozens of non regime videos of events, unlike now.
Pointing out that you regularly deflect any input in any thread that rightly and stands up objectively whereby trump is criticised for what hes done wrongly is not a so called ' personal attack'..
Nor is you being told that on an issue you are incorrect as you've cried wolf before..
The facts so far in this instance point to a mistake that cost the lives of many children, yet instead you go straight in on a bbc rant..
Their loss is as bad as the loss you've consistently pointed out in the protests, yet your contributions on them clearly differ in how you've used those events..
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"'Trump was the cause of those poor people being slaughter' "Yes, did he or do he not say "keep protesting", "help is on its way" | |||
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"'Trump was the cause of those poor people being slaughter'
Yes, did he or do he not say
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"'Trump was the cause of those poor people being slaughter'
Yes, did he or do he not say
"keep protesting", "help is on its way"
More technically, he (callously and irresponsibly) encouraged them to escalate and intensify actions, with a vague promise of help, which ultimately led to their brutal murder by the Iranian regime."Like the Kurds, these people were a means to an end for him, and utterly disposable. | |||
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"'Trump was the cause of those poor people being slaughter'
Yes, did he or do he not say
"keep protesting", "help is on its way"
More technically, he (callously and irresponsibly) encouraged them to escalate and intensify actions, with a vague promise of help, which ultimately led to their brutal murder by the Iranian regime."I would be surprised if CIA asset weren't on the ground whipping up protesters. Its not sci fi, it's what they do | |||
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"'Trump was the cause of those poor people being slaughter'
Yes, did he or do he not say
"keep protesting", "help is on its way"
More technically, he (callously and irresponsibly) encouraged them to escalate and intensify actions, with a vague promise of help, which ultimately led to their brutal murder by the Iranian regime.
I would be surprised if CIA asset weren't on the ground whipping up protesters. Its not sci fi, it's what they do"Okay... If you're talking CIA, then it's much more understandable. Let's say, for the sake of argument, that is true. If so, they're working with a fluid situation and capitalising on what is happening. If, on the ground, it looks like a revolution has a reasonable chance of success, then supporting it isn't necessarily evil, so much as miscalculated. It could also be callous and evil, but that's not a given and it's possible that it's in good faith. | |||
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"'Trump was the cause of those poor people being slaughter'
Yes, did he or do he not say
"keep protesting", "help is on its way"
More technically, he (callously and irresponsibly) encouraged them to escalate and intensify actions, with a vague promise of help, which ultimately led to their brutal murder by the Iranian regime.
I would be surprised if CIA asset weren't on the ground whipping up protesters. Its not sci fi, it's what they do
Okay... If you're talking CIA, then it's much more understandable. Let's say, for the sake of argument, that is true. If so, they're working with a fluid situation and capitalising on what is happening. If, on the ground, it looks like a revolution has a reasonable chance of success, then supporting it isn't necessarily evil, so much as miscalculated. It could also be callous and evil, but that's not a given and it's possible that it's in good faith."Agreed, and the CIA are there to coordinate protests but Trumps ranting in social media and useless threats poked the bear, the Iranian regime then flexed their muscles. He has to learn to shut his fucking mouth | |||
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"And it's becoming obvious that dispute the raving if rmthe deranged idiot there is no government in waiting, there is no alternative even if the armed forces wanted to switch allegiance who would the tune to 🤷♂️ Fat fuck says they should surrender their weapons to the general public 😂😂" You mean there's no "oven ready deal " 😱 | |||
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"Christ, tin foil sales must be through the roof today.🤣" So rather than admit you are wrong, supporting a moron or debating why you're right you decide to throw insults... Bravo 👏👏 | |||
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"Christ, tin foil sales must be through the roof today.🤣 So rather than admit you are wrong, supporting a moron or debating why you're right you decide to throw insults... Bravo 👏👏" No insults Mags, this is genuine quality stuff, please keep it coming | |||
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"And it's becoming obvious that dispute the raving if rmthe deranged idiot there is no government in waiting, there is no alternative even if the armed forces wanted to switch allegiance who would the tune to 🤷♂️ Fat fuck says they should surrender their weapons to the general public 😂😂" There was a government in waiting a few years ago back in the 80s, but the regime killed them all and kills anyone who even hits that there should be a different regime in power. Who in the right mind would stick their hand up? Might just as well commit suicide, at least that may you don’t have to watch them r @ p e and murder your whole family first while they torture you. The Germans didn’t have an alternative government ready to replace Hitler so by the same logic we should have left them to it as well? | |||
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"And it's becoming obvious that dispute the raving if rmthe deranged idiot there is no government in waiting, there is no alternative even if the armed forces wanted to switch allegiance who would the tune to 🤷♂️ Fat fuck says they should surrender their weapons to the general public 😂😂 There was a government in waiting a few years ago back in the 80s, but the regime killed them all and kills anyone who even hits that there should be a different regime in power. Who in the right mind would stick their hand up? Might just as well commit suicide, at least that may you don’t have to watch them r @ p e and murder your whole family first while they torture you. The Germans didn’t have an alternative government ready to replace Hitler so by the same logic we should have left them to it as well? " In certain circles it was a popular view that both World Wars were the result of manipulation by Jewish capitalists and that America in particular was just a puppet who should stay out of it. You'd hope such wild opinions had been consigned to the dustbin of history but sadly not. | |||
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"And it's becoming obvious that dispute the raving if rmthe deranged idiot there is no government in waiting, there is no alternative even if the armed forces wanted to switch allegiance who would the tune to 🤷♂️ Fat fuck says they should surrender their weapons to the general public 😂😂 There was a government in waiting a few years ago back in the 80s, but the regime killed them all and kills anyone who even hits that there should be a different regime in power. Who in the right mind would stick their hand up? Might just as well commit suicide, at least that may you don’t have to watch them r @ p e and murder your whole family first while they torture you. The Germans didn’t have an alternative government ready to replace Hitler so by the same logic we should have left them to it as well? In certain circles it was a popular view that both World Wars were the result of manipulation by Jewish capitalists and that America in particular was just a puppet who should stay out of it. You'd hope such wild opinions had been consigned to the dustbin of history but sadly not. "Probably the same people who think the Jews all killed themselves in the death camps and make it look like they were gassed by the Germans to get sympathy | |||
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"And it's becoming obvious that dispute the raving if rmthe deranged idiot there is no government in waiting, there is no alternative even if the armed forces wanted to switch allegiance who would the tune to 🤷♂️ Fat fuck says they should surrender their weapons to the general public 😂😂 There was a government in waiting a few years ago back in the 80s, but the regime killed them all and kills anyone who even hits that there should be a different regime in power. Who in the right mind would stick their hand up? Might just as well commit suicide, at least that may you don’t have to watch them r @ p e and murder your whole family first while they torture you. The Germans didn’t have an alternative government ready to replace Hitler so by the same logic we should have left them to it as well? In certain circles it was a popular view that both World Wars were the result of manipulation by Jewish capitalists and that America in particular was just a puppet who should stay out of it. You'd hope such wild opinions had been consigned to the dustbin of history but sadly not.
Probably the same people who think the Jews all killed themselves in the death camps and make it look like they were gassed by the Germans to get sympathy "To be fair, the conspiracy theorists don't actually deny that some Jews died, but they do try and downplay the numbers at every opportunity while emphasising 'atrocities' by the Allies to present them as no better than the Nazis. | |||
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"And it's becoming obvious that dispute the raving if rmthe deranged idiot there is no government in waiting, there is no alternative even if the armed forces wanted to switch allegiance who would the tune to 🤷♂️ Fat fuck says they should surrender their weapons to the general public 😂😂 There was a government in waiting a few years ago back in the 80s, but the regime killed them all and kills anyone who even hits that there should be a different regime in power. Who in the right mind would stick their hand up? Might just as well commit suicide, at least that may you don’t have to watch them r @ p e and murder your whole family first while they torture you. The Germans didn’t have an alternative government ready to replace Hitler so by the same logic we should have left them to it as well? In certain circles it was a popular view that both World Wars were the result of manipulation by Jewish capitalists and that America in particular was just a puppet who should stay out of it. You'd hope such wild opinions had been consigned to the dustbin of history but sadly not.
Probably the same people who think the Jews all killed themselves in the death camps and make it look like they were gassed by the Germans to get sympathy
To be fair, the conspiracy theorists don't actually deny that some Jews died, but they do try and downplay the numbers at every opportunity while emphasising 'atrocities' by the Allies to present them as no better than the Nazis.
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"Jingoistic garbage coming from Hegseth. "The most fighters, the most bombers, the most strikes," he tells a Pentagon news conference" And of course Russia and China are monitoring every move and tactic | |||
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"And it's becoming obvious that dispute the raving if rmthe deranged idiot there is no government in waiting, there is no alternative even if the armed forces wanted to switch allegiance who would the tune to 🤷♂️ Fat fuck says they should surrender their weapons to the general public 😂😂 There was a government in waiting a few years ago back in the 80s, but the regime killed them all and kills anyone who even hits that there should be a different regime in power. Who in the right mind would stick their hand up? Might just as well commit suicide, at least that may you don’t have to watch them r @ p e and murder your whole family first while they torture you. The Germans didn’t have an alternative government ready to replace Hitler so by the same logic we should have left them to it as well? In certain circles it was a popular view that both World Wars were the result of manipulation by Jewish capitalists and that America in particular was just a puppet who should stay out of it. You'd hope such wild opinions had been consigned to the dustbin of history but sadly not.
Probably the same people who think the Jews all killed themselves in the death camps and make it look like they were gassed by the Germans to get sympathy
To be fair, the conspiracy theorists don't actually deny that some Jews died, but they do try and downplay the numbers at every opportunity while emphasising 'atrocities' by the Allies to present them as no better than the Nazis.
The old swerve ball
did he or do he not say
"keep protesting", "help is on its way"
"Question from a previous thread: 'Do you really think that people in Iran are protesting because Trump said so?' Answer: 'That's not what I said' | |||
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"And it's becoming obvious that dispute the raving if rmthe deranged idiot there is no government in waiting, there is no alternative even if the armed forces wanted to switch allegiance who would the tune to 🤷♂️ Fat fuck says they should surrender their weapons to the general public 😂😂 There was a government in waiting a few years ago back in the 80s, but the regime killed them all and kills anyone who even hits that there should be a different regime in power. Who in the right mind would stick their hand up? Might just as well commit suicide, at least that may you don’t have to watch them r @ p e and murder your whole family first while they torture you. The Germans didn’t have an alternative government ready to replace Hitler so by the same logic we should have left them to it as well? In certain circles it was a popular view that both World Wars were the result of manipulation by Jewish capitalists and that America in particular was just a puppet who should stay out of it. You'd hope such wild opinions had been consigned to the dustbin of history but sadly not.
Probably the same people who think the Jews all killed themselves in the death camps and make it look like they were gassed by the Germans to get sympathy
To be fair, the conspiracy theorists don't actually deny that some Jews died, but they do try and downplay the numbers at every opportunity while emphasising 'atrocities' by the Allies to present them as no better than the Nazis.
The old swerve ball
did he or do he not say
"keep protesting", "help is on its way"
Question from a previous thread:
'Do you really think that people in Iran are protesting because Trump said so?'
Answer: 'That's not what I said'"So did he or do he not say "keep protesting", "help is on its way" | |||
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"And it's becoming obvious that dispute the raving if rmthe deranged idiot there is no government in waiting, there is no alternative even if the armed forces wanted to switch allegiance who would the tune to 🤷♂️ Fat fuck says they should surrender their weapons to the general public 😂😂 There was a government in waiting a few years ago back in the 80s, but the regime killed them all and kills anyone who even hits that there should be a different regime in power. Who in the right mind would stick their hand up? Might just as well commit suicide, at least that may you don’t have to watch them r @ p e and murder your whole family first while they torture you. The Germans didn’t have an alternative government ready to replace Hitler so by the same logic we should have left them to it as well? In certain circles it was a popular view that both World Wars were the result of manipulation by Jewish capitalists and that America in particular was just a puppet who should stay out of it. You'd hope such wild opinions had been consigned to the dustbin of history but sadly not.
Probably the same people who think the Jews all killed themselves in the death camps and make it look like they were gassed by the Germans to get sympathy
To be fair, the conspiracy theorists don't actually deny that some Jews died, but they do try and downplay the numbers at every opportunity while emphasising 'atrocities' by the Allies to present them as no better than the Nazis.
The old swerve ball
did he or do he not say
"keep protesting", "help is on its way"
Question from a previous thread:
'Do you really think that people in Iran are protesting because Trump said so?'
Answer: 'That's not what I said'
So did he or do he not say
"keep protesting", "help is on its way"
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"And it's becoming obvious that dispute the raving if rmthe deranged idiot there is no government in waiting, there is no alternative even if the armed forces wanted to switch allegiance who would the tune to 🤷♂️ Fat fuck says they should surrender their weapons to the general public 😂😂 There was a government in waiting a few years ago back in the 80s, but the regime killed them all and kills anyone who even hits that there should be a different regime in power. Who in the right mind would stick their hand up? Might just as well commit suicide, at least that may you don’t have to watch them r @ p e and murder your whole family first while they torture you. The Germans didn’t have an alternative government ready to replace Hitler so by the same logic we should have left them to it as well? In certain circles it was a popular view that both World Wars were the result of manipulation by Jewish capitalists and that America in particular was just a puppet who should stay out of it. You'd hope such wild opinions had been consigned to the dustbin of history but sadly not.
Probably the same people who think the Jews all killed themselves in the death camps and make it look like they were gassed by the Germans to get sympathy
To be fair, the conspiracy theorists don't actually deny that some Jews died, but they do try and downplay the numbers at every opportunity while emphasising 'atrocities' by the Allies to present them as no better than the Nazis.
The old swerve ball
did he or do he not say
"keep protesting", "help is on its way"
Question from a previous thread:
'Do you really think that people in Iran are protesting because Trump said so?'
Answer: 'That's not what I said'
So did he or do he not say
"keep protesting", "help is on its way"
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"And it's becoming obvious that dispute the raving if rmthe deranged idiot there is no government in waiting, there is no alternative even if the armed forces wanted to switch allegiance who would the tune to 🤷♂️ Fat fuck says they should surrender their weapons to the general public 😂😂 There was a government in waiting a few years ago back in the 80s, but the regime killed them all and kills anyone who even hits that there should be a different regime in power. Who in the right mind would stick their hand up? Might just as well commit suicide, at least that may you don’t have to watch them r @ p e and murder your whole family first while they torture you. The Germans didn’t have an alternative government ready to replace Hitler so by the same logic we should have left them to it as well? In certain circles it was a popular view that both World Wars were the result of manipulation by Jewish capitalists and that America in particular was just a puppet who should stay out of it. You'd hope such wild opinions had been consigned to the dustbin of history but sadly not.
Probably the same people who think the Jews all killed themselves in the death camps and make it look like they were gassed by the Germans to get sympathy
To be fair, the conspiracy theorists don't actually deny that some Jews died, but they do try and downplay the numbers at every opportunity while emphasising 'atrocities' by the Allies to present them as no better than the Nazis.
The old swerve ball
did he or do he not say
"keep protesting", "help is on its way"
Question from a previous thread:
'Do you really think that people in Iran are protesting because Trump said so?'
Answer: 'That's not what I said'
So did he or do he not say
"keep protesting", "help is on its way"
Feel free to scroll on by 👋👋"Yeah but you don't, and can't help it 😂😂😂 | |||
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"Jingoistic garbage coming from Hegseth. "The most fighters, the most bombers, the most strikes," he tells a Pentagon news conference" Mini man child..
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"And it's becoming obvious that dispute the raving if rmthe deranged idiot there is no government in waiting, there is no alternative even if the armed forces wanted to switch allegiance who would the tune to 🤷♂️ Fat fuck says they should surrender their weapons to the general public 😂😂 There was a government in waiting a few years ago back in the 80s, but the regime killed them all and kills anyone who even hits that there should be a different regime in power. Who in the right mind would stick their hand up? Might just as well commit suicide, at least that may you don’t have to watch them r @ p e and murder your whole family first while they torture you. The Germans didn’t have an alternative government ready to replace Hitler so by the same logic we should have left them to it as well? In certain circles it was a popular view that both World Wars were the result of manipulation by Jewish capitalists and that America in particular was just a puppet who should stay out of it. You'd hope such wild opinions had been consigned to the dustbin of history but sadly not.
Probably the same people who think the Jews all killed themselves in the death camps and make it look like they were gassed by the Germans to get sympathy
To be fair, the conspiracy theorists don't actually deny that some Jews died, but they do try and downplay the numbers at every opportunity while emphasising 'atrocities' by the Allies to present them as no better than the Nazis.
The old swerve ball
did he or do he not say
"keep protesting", "help is on its way"
Question from a previous thread:
'Do you really think that people in Iran are protesting because Trump said so?'
Answer: 'That's not what I said'
So did he or do he not say
"keep protesting", "help is on its way"
Feel free to scroll on by 👋👋
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"And it's becoming obvious that dispute the raving if rmthe deranged idiot there is no government in waiting, there is no alternative even if the armed forces wanted to switch allegiance who would the tune to 🤷♂️ Fat fuck says they should surrender their weapons to the general public 😂😂 There was a government in waiting a few years ago back in the 80s, but the regime killed them all and kills anyone who even hits that there should be a different regime in power. Who in the right mind would stick their hand up? Might just as well commit suicide, at least that may you don’t have to watch them r @ p e and murder your whole family first while they torture you. The Germans didn’t have an alternative government ready to replace Hitler so by the same logic we should have left them to it as well? In certain circles it was a popular view that both World Wars were the result of manipulation by Jewish capitalists and that America in particular was just a puppet who should stay out of it. You'd hope such wild opinions had been consigned to the dustbin of history but sadly not.
Probably the same people who think the Jews all killed themselves in the death camps and make it look like they were gassed by the Germans to get sympathy
To be fair, the conspiracy theorists don't actually deny that some Jews died, but they do try and downplay the numbers at every opportunity while emphasising 'atrocities' by the Allies to present them as no better than the Nazis.
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did he or do he not say
"keep protesting", "help is on its way"
Question from a previous thread:
'Do you really think that people in Iran are protesting because Trump said so?'
Answer: 'That's not what I said'
So did he or do he not say
"keep protesting", "help is on its way"
Yes he did, those were his exact words, of course the poor protesters paid the price with their lives.
"So should they not have protested in your opinion. It is a tough one. In the face of almost certain death, do you protest or live in fear your whole life? Someone had to be the first to get out of the landing craft on the Normandy beaches and faced a high probability of death, but if nobody did then Nazi Germany would most likely still rule all of Europe. | |||
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"And it's becoming obvious that dispute the raving if rmthe deranged idiot there is no government in waiting, there is no alternative even if the armed forces wanted to switch allegiance who would the tune to 🤷♂️ Fat fuck says they should surrender their weapons to the general public 😂😂 There was a government in waiting a few years ago back in the 80s, but the regime killed them all and kills anyone who even hits that there should be a different regime in power. Who in the right mind would stick their hand up? Might just as well commit suicide, at least that may you don’t have to watch them r @ p e and murder your whole family first while they torture you. The Germans didn’t have an alternative government ready to replace Hitler so by the same logic we should have left them to it as well? In certain circles it was a popular view that both World Wars were the result of manipulation by Jewish capitalists and that America in particular was just a puppet who should stay out of it. You'd hope such wild opinions had been consigned to the dustbin of history but sadly not.
Probably the same people who think the Jews all killed themselves in the death camps and make it look like they were gassed by the Germans to get sympathy
To be fair, the conspiracy theorists don't actually deny that some Jews died, but they do try and downplay the numbers at every opportunity while emphasising 'atrocities' by the Allies to present them as no better than the Nazis.
The old swerve ball
did he or do he not say
"keep protesting", "help is on its way"
Question from a previous thread:
'Do you really think that people in Iran are protesting because Trump said so?'
Answer: 'That's not what I said'
So did he or do he not say
"keep protesting", "help is on its way"
Yes he did, those were his exact words, of course the poor protesters paid the price with their lives.
So should they not have protested in your opinion.
It is a tough one. In the face of almost certain death, do you protest or live in fear your whole life?
Someone had to be the first to get out of the landing craft on the Normandy beaches and faced a high probability of death, but if nobody did then Nazi Germany would most likely still rule all of Europe. "I agree it's a difficult one. The main problem I see is there wasn't and still isn't an end game. I don't think simply protesting against the tyranny would achieve anything other than probable death. Maybe if there had been another viable organisation or party then they could hope to get the support of a majority, which would have to include a portion at least if the armed forces, and overthrow the regime but what could have been achieved by waving placards. Even now Trump wants a say in who runs the country but does he have a clue who and will that person command authority of the army or form a new one 🤷♂️ The first man to step off a landing craft didn't carry a placard to protest at the nazis, he went to kill rather than be killed. I don't recall reading anything to say if he succeeded or not but there was a strategy. | |||
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"And it's becoming obvious that dispute the raving if rmthe deranged idiot there is no government in waiting, there is no alternative even if the armed forces wanted to switch allegiance who would the tune to 🤷♂️ Fat fuck says they should surrender their weapons to the general public 😂😂 There was a government in waiting a few years ago back in the 80s, but the regime killed them all and kills anyone who even hits that there should be a different regime in power. Who in the right mind would stick their hand up? Might just as well commit suicide, at least that may you don’t have to watch them r @ p e and murder your whole family first while they torture you. The Germans didn’t have an alternative government ready to replace Hitler so by the same logic we should have left them to it as well? In certain circles it was a popular view that both World Wars were the result of manipulation by Jewish capitalists and that America in particular was just a puppet who should stay out of it. You'd hope such wild opinions had been consigned to the dustbin of history but sadly not.
Probably the same people who think the Jews all killed themselves in the death camps and make it look like they were gassed by the Germans to get sympathy
To be fair, the conspiracy theorists don't actually deny that some Jews died, but they do try and downplay the numbers at every opportunity while emphasising 'atrocities' by the Allies to present them as no better than the Nazis.
The old swerve ball
did he or do he not say
"keep protesting", "help is on its way"
Question from a previous thread:
'Do you really think that people in Iran are protesting because Trump said so?'
Answer: 'That's not what I said'
So did he or do he not say
"keep protesting", "help is on its way"
Yes he did, those were his exact words, of course the poor protesters paid the price with their lives.
So should they not have protested in your opinion.
It is a tough one. In the face of almost certain death, do you protest or live in fear your whole life?
Someone had to be the first to get out of the landing craft on the Normandy beaches and faced a high probability of death, but if nobody did then Nazi Germany would most likely still rule all of Europe.
I agree it's a difficult one.
The main problem I see is there wasn't and still isn't an end game.
I don't think simply protesting against the tyranny would achieve anything other than probable death.
Maybe if there had been another viable organisation or party then they could hope to get the support of a majority, which would have to include a portion at least if the armed forces, and overthrow the regime but what could have been achieved by waving placards.
Even now Trump wants a say in who runs the country but does he have a clue who and will that person command authority of the army or form a new one 🤷♂️
The first man to step off a landing craft didn't carry a placard to protest at the nazis, he went to kill rather than be killed. I don't recall reading anything to say if he succeeded or not but there was a strategy.
"For the Iranian people to have somehow overthrown their tyrannical government themselves is definitely the ideal. Somehow freedom was restored in Eastern Europe in the late 80s after decades of authoritarian dictatorships. The Berlin Wall fell, the iron curtain came down, people got their freedom. But that may never have happened had it not been for Gorbachev. Iran was probably never going to get such a leader. I agree that the yanks have rushed into this campaign without too much thought about the end game. I think they saw an opportunity. A time where the people were prepared to stand up and be counted and pay the ultimate price for doing so. Some in here have moaned that Trump said “help is on the way” and then seemingly nothing happened. He was criticised for not taking action. Now he’s being criticised for taking action. Would this action be viewed differently if it was Biden signing off? Was it the right action? What were the alternatives? I personally think Isreal should have been kept out the loop. Their involvement limits, if not abdicates the local support the US may have gotten. A motion before the UN first? Probably wise, but all but certainly pointless when the usual suspects would have voted against. Is action the UN hasn’t had chance to vote on any different to action they have voted against? | |||
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"And it's becoming obvious that dispute the raving if rmthe deranged idiot there is no government in waiting, there is no alternative even if the armed forces wanted to switch allegiance who would the tune to 🤷♂️ Fat fuck says they should surrender their weapons to the general public 😂😂 There was a government in waiting a few years ago back in the 80s, but the regime killed them all and kills anyone who even hits that there should be a different regime in power. Who in the right mind would stick their hand up? Might just as well commit suicide, at least that may you don’t have to watch them r @ p e and murder your whole family first while they torture you. The Germans didn’t have an alternative government ready to replace Hitler so by the same logic we should have left them to it as well? In certain circles it was a popular view that both World Wars were the result of manipulation by Jewish capitalists and that America in particular was just a puppet who should stay out of it. You'd hope such wild opinions had been consigned to the dustbin of history but sadly not.
Probably the same people who think the Jews all killed themselves in the death camps and make it look like they were gassed by the Germans to get sympathy
To be fair, the conspiracy theorists don't actually deny that some Jews died, but they do try and downplay the numbers at every opportunity while emphasising 'atrocities' by the Allies to present them as no better than the Nazis.
The old swerve ball
did he or do he not say
"keep protesting", "help is on its way"
Question from a previous thread:
'Do you really think that people in Iran are protesting because Trump said so?'
Answer: 'That's not what I said'
So did he or do he not say
"keep protesting", "help is on its way"
Yes he did, those were his exact words, of course the poor protesters paid the price with their lives.
So should they not have protested in your opinion.
It is a tough one. In the face of almost certain death, do you protest or live in fear your whole life?
Someone had to be the first to get out of the landing craft on the Normandy beaches and faced a high probability of death, but if nobody did then Nazi Germany would most likely still rule all of Europe.
I agree it's a difficult one.
The main problem I see is there wasn't and still isn't an end game.
I don't think simply protesting against the tyranny would achieve anything other than probable death.
Maybe if there had been another viable organisation or party then they could hope to get the support of a majority, which would have to include a portion at least if the armed forces, and overthrow the regime but what could have been achieved by waving placards.
Even now Trump wants a say in who runs the country but does he have a clue who and will that person command authority of the army or form a new one 🤷♂️
The first man to step off a landing craft didn't carry a placard to protest at the nazis, he went to kill rather than be killed. I don't recall reading anything to say if he succeeded or not but there was a strategy.
For the Iranian people to have somehow overthrown their tyrannical government themselves is definitely the ideal. Somehow freedom was restored in Eastern Europe in the late 80s after decades of authoritarian dictatorships. The Berlin Wall fell, the iron curtain came down, people got their freedom. But that may never have happened had it not been for Gorbachev.
Iran was probably never going to get such a leader.
I agree that the yanks have rushed into this campaign without too much thought about the end game. I think they saw an opportunity. A time where the people were prepared to stand up and be counted and pay the ultimate price for doing so.
Some in here have moaned that Trump said “help is on the way” and then seemingly nothing happened. He was criticised for not taking action. Now he’s being criticised for taking action. Would this action be viewed differently if it was Biden signing off?
Was it the right action? What were the alternatives?
I personally think Isreal should have been kept out the loop. Their involvement limits, if not abdicates the local support the US may have gotten. A motion before the UN first? Probably wise, but all but certainly pointless when the usual suspects would have voted against. Is action the UN hasn’t had chance to vote on any different to action they have voted against?
"It his current actions are nothing to do with the Iranians being slaughtered. He states that he attacked Iran as they were an imminent threat to the US 🤷♂️ More likely he was ordered by Israel as Hammas are regrouping and strengthening in Gaza and they want to wipe out Iran and Lebanon completely before Gaza kicks off again under the guise of nuclear threats that more than likely didn't exist (yet) Didn't trump obliterate all their facilities 
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"I wish to retract my earlier statement that this subject is not fit for entertainment purposes as I realise I was unduly pessimistic. I understand now that the 50,000 Iranian civilians slaughtered by the Islamic Regime were in fact only 5000 or so troublemakers. I understand now that the killings were not even carried out by the Iranian Regime but were in fact the work of Ayatollah Trumpmani and his CIA operatives, under the orders of the Great Satan, Israel. I also see clearly that Trumpani was wrong not to attack Iran in February and that Trumpani was wrong to attack Iran in March. I understand that Wolverhampton Wanderers will win this year's European Cup and the ghost of Red Rum will win the Cheltenham Gold Cup, Inshallah ! 🙏 " 🙄 | |||
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" I also see clearly that Trumpani was wrong not to attack Iran in February and that Trumpani was wrong to attack Iran in March. " You're clearly A Confused B Rude C nah against forum rules Did anyone anywhere anytime suggest Trump should have attacked anyone in February ... Really 🙄 | |||
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"The only way the US can effect humanitarian support is to have a permanent peacekeeping force in Iran to protect whatever government they choose to put in place but as others have said that doesn't seem to be the agenda." A peacekeeping force how big exactly for a population of 93 million in a developed nation with radical religious zealots? | |||
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" Some in here have moaned that Trump said “help is on the way” and then seemingly nothing happened. He was criticised for not taking action. Now he’s being criticised for taking action. " He should have stayed silent until he was actually ready to help. He might have meant well, but he didn't make things at all better by speaking out prematurely. Some are criticising his taking action, yes. Others who support some action (in general) are just not impressed with how he handled the communication. One can dislike or disagree with Trump generally (or in specific cases) but agree in principle with some elements of his actions. " Would this action be viewed differently if it was Biden signing off? " By some, probably. Biden is unlikely to have stepped in. That said, were it the Democrats for whatever reason (hypothetically speaking), then many otherwise gung-ho Republicans would be angry at getting involved in foreign wars and many Democrats would be talking about saving the world through responsible intervention... Tribalism is alive and well. " Was it the right action? What were the alternatives? " It depends on perspective - right action for whom? Let's say that Israel genuinely faces a real existential threat from Iran. They have three choices: 1. Do nothing, hope things get better, trust that Iran will not destroy them. 2. Chip away at Iran's capabilities slowly, even as they grow their capability. 3. Hit hard, at the best opportunity and neutralise the threat. From Israel's perspective, this outcome might be in their best interests. From another perspective, it might not be the best outcome. Arguments like "this is a distraction from the Epstein files" or "Trump is controlled by Israel" are nonsense and puerile. If Trump (and his backers in the US) have an agenda, it's about geopolitics, oil, Chinese access to energy and power projection. Or even just a need to blow stuff up. " I personally think Isreal should have been kept out the loop. Their involvement limits, if not abdicates the local support the US may have gotten. " Israel is the best ally against Iran. They probably have more inflation than any other nation, more chance of effecting real regime change and are the key beneficiaries of this action. Keeping Israel out of the loop would be like going in with their right hand tied behind their back. What might distinguish this from the Iraq war could be Israel's intelligence, connections and the fact that they have to live in proximity to Iran forever. Iraq was an adventure from which the US could extricate itself, go home and get on with their lives. Israel can't. On the flip side, Iran is a much, much harder nut to crack. Israel has three objectives, quite distinct from the US: 1. Permanent Nuclear Denial: Ensure Iran can never achieve weapons-grade enrichment or build a nuclear device. 2. Defang the Military: Destroy the ballistic missile and drone arsenals that can reach Tel Aviv. 3. Sever the Proxy Head: Decapitate the IRGC leadership that funds, arms, and directs Hezbollah, Hamas, and other regional militias. From Israel's perspective, this is the best opportunity they'll get to do the right thing by their country. From the perspective of the rest of the Middle East, there will be mixed feelings about the action against Iran, whether or not Israel is involved. We can see little love lost between the Sunni states and Iran, especially Saudi & Syria. Do you feel that, without Israel's involvement, the Gulf states would be acting any differently? | |||
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"The only way the US can effect humanitarian support is to have a permanent peacekeeping force in Iran to protect whatever government they choose to put in place but as others have said that doesn't seem to be the agenda. A peacekeeping force how big exactly for a population of 93 million in a developed nation with radical religious zealots?" Iran populations is 3.5X that of Iraq And double+ the Afghanistan population. USA deserted both | |||
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"For an unconditional surrender, it’ll need troops on the ground. That isn’t going to happen. So what happens after the bombing stops? " The regime under the tenure of a new Ayatollah, whose direct family Israel and the USA have just killed will continue along the path of radical Shia hatred for the West and no doubt clamp down on those internally who oppose it.. Israel seem intent on destroying irans oil infrastructure as a means of cutting off revenue so Iran will continue go for the other gulf states oil and try and close the strait of Hormuz.. | |||
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"In other relevant news today, the temperature is set to rise in southern Spain " That's Al-Andalus to you. | |||
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"In other relevant news today, the temperature is set to rise in southern Spain " Relevant or deflection..? Its almost like a bot programmed to react to trigger words.. | |||
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"In other relevant news today, the temperature is set to rise in southern Spain Relevant or deflection..? Its almost like a bot programmed to react to trigger words.. "😉 | |||
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"Unconditional surrender suggests USA has declared war? Wouldn't that break a lot of international law. Not that the law means anything as nobody will do anything except write a strong letter of disappointment. Also, will anyone get the truth of why this has happened? Regime change, nuclear weapons, oil prices, stock devalued so rich companies can buy them up cheap, support Israel and Russia. Or just a narcissist with a bunch of dangerous bullies as cronies supporting the madman. One thing certain in my mind, Mr Trump only does things to benefit himself no matter what cost to others." Is it a "special operation" 😜 Definitely not a war .. no ... no | |||
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"In other relevant news today, the temperature is set to rise in southern Spain That's Al-Andalus to you." I bet | |||
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"In other relevant news today, the temperature is set to rise in southern Spain Relevant or deflection..? Its almost like a bot programmed to react to trigger words.. "I guess so 😜 | |||
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