FabSwingers.com forum: PR

By (user no longer on site) OP
9 weeks ago

Is 6 party politics an argument for PR? If an MP can get voted in with 20-25% of the vote means 75-80% of the vote was against them. This seems grossly unfair on the face of it.

One of the biggest arguments against PR is “I vote for my MP to represent me”. But in reality you vote for a party.

They say we have a parliamentary democracy but in reality we have a 5 year autocracy where the leader of the largest party holds all the power, so long as they have the support of people who they hand picked to support them. Other than having the power to vote against their party in 5 years time, what checks are there to this power which is almost a dictatorship in all but name.

A permanent hung parliament is the other big argument against PR. But if we want a true parliamentary democracy, PR is the only way to deliver it in modern times.

I’m really undecided and welcome a fortnight debate

By *rDiscretionXXXMan
9 weeks ago

Gilfach

"... if we want a true parliamentary democracy, PR is the only way to deliver it in modern times."

The Swiss system of Direct Democracy seems to work well. It's a better alternative than PR.

By (user no longer on site) OP
9 weeks ago

"... if we want a true parliamentary democracy, PR is the only way to deliver it in modern times.

The Swiss system of Direct Democracy seems to work well. It's a better alternative than PR."

Care to elaborate?

By *rDiscretionXXXMan
9 weeks ago

Gilfach

The Swiss elect representatives, which go into 2 houses similar to ours, and those people create laws and set policy. Every 3 months they hold a referendum. There will be several questions asked, and everyone gets to have their say. Once the answers to the questions are counted, it's the representatives' job to make / change / abolish the law as appropriate.

By (user no longer on site) OP
9 weeks ago

"The Swiss elect representatives, which go into 2 houses similar to ours, and those people create laws and set policy. Every 3 months they hold a referendum. There will be several questions asked, and everyone gets to have their say. Once the answers to the questions are counted, it's the representatives' job to make / change / abolish the law as appropriate."

Yep, I’d be all in favour of that.