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"I won't be voting for anti semitic communists I'm afraid. " I interpret that as it's important to you that your party of choice is inclusive ? just the Jews? Or other minorities as well ? What's your views on reforms inclusion diversity & LGBT policies ? Are they adequate enough for your needs | |||
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"I won't be voting for anti semitic communists I'm afraid. I interpret that as it's important to you that your party of choice is inclusive ? just the Jews? Or other minorities as well ? What's your views on reforms inclusion diversity & LGBT policies ? Are they adequate enough for your needs " I have no plans to vote for Reform. I'm more into exclusivity than inclusivity tbh.  | |||
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"I am honestly exhausted by the racism that seems to be constantly on the rise. Voting for Reform will not solve the cost of living crisis, the housing crisis, or falling living standards. It feels like the same pattern repeating itself. People are encouraged to look at migrants and marginalised communities with suspicion while the real issues remain untouched and wealth continues to concentrate at the top. Minority communities contribute billions to the UK economy every year. Our cultures shape everyday British life. People enjoy our food, music, fashion and labour, yet still some choose fear over understanding, repeating the same tired narratives about who belongs and who does not. It is especially disheartening to hear calls to ban women from wearing religious clothing in the name of preserving conservative values. Throughout British history, and across many countries, women commonly wore shawls and head coverings as part of normal dress. Framing religious clothing as a threat ignores that history and turns personal faith into something to be policed. All the while housing becomes less affordable, bills rise, and more money flows into the pockets of billionaires. Instead of addressing these realities, the conversation is pushed towards division and blame. I do not want more politics built on fear. I want honesty about who benefits, accountability for those in power, and a society that refuses to treat difference as a problem." 43 weeks ago, you wrote the following: " Israel is a terrorist state that murders children, women and any Palestine man They bomb hospitals schools ambulances and claim it’s Hamas despite it being the most documented genocide of our living history. Any one who claims palestinaisn use propaganda or are lying is a Zionist or idiotic and naive. Every human rights organisation internationally stated Isreal is committing a genocide. Israel r@ped their own hostage that were released by Hamas. They were not sexually assaulted by Hamas but isreali soldiers routinely r@pe isreali women. They r@pe palestinain doctors nurses. Murdering them then claiming that Israel are victims as they commit the worst war crimes imaginable " ...and: " Who bombs every single hospital? Israel Who bombs refugee camps murdering thousands of civilians? Israel Who r@pes palestinain civilians? Israel Who r@pes their own civilian? Israel Who targets Palestine children and shops them in the head? Israel Every single war crimes imaginable is inflicted by Israel against civilians always claiming Hamas this Hamas that to mask their horrors. Who plans tinned food with explosives in it and then places it in Gaza where they are starving palestinaisn to death? Israel murdering children desperate for food. " Perhaps British people don't want to import people who spout that kind of nonsense. | |||
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"I am honestly exhausted by the racism that seems to be constantly on the rise. Voting for Reform will not solve the cost of living crisis, the housing crisis, or falling living standards. It feels like the same pattern repeating itself. People are encouraged to look at migrants and marginalised communities with suspicion while the real issues remain untouched and wealth continues to concentrate at the top. Minority communities contribute billions to the UK economy every year. Our cultures shape everyday British life. People enjoy our food, music, fashion and labour, yet still some choose fear over understanding, repeating the same tired narratives about who belongs and who does not. It is especially disheartening to hear calls to ban women from wearing religious clothing in the name of preserving conservative values. Throughout British history, and across many countries, women commonly wore shawls and head coverings as part of normal dress. Framing religious clothing as a threat ignores that history and turns personal faith into something to be policed. All the while housing becomes less affordable, bills rise, and more money flows into the pockets of billionaires. Instead of addressing these realities, the conversation is pushed towards division and blame. I do not want more politics built on fear. I want honesty about who benefits, accountability for those in power, and a society that refuses to treat difference as a problem. 43 weeks ago, you wrote the following: Israel is a terrorist state that murders children, women and any Palestine man They bomb hospitals schools ambulances and claim it’s Hamas despite it being the most documented genocide of our living history. Any one who claims palestinaisn use propaganda or are lying is a Zionist or idiotic and naive. Every human rights organisation internationally stated Isreal is committing a genocide. Israel r@ped their own hostage that were released by Hamas. They were not sexually assaulted by Hamas but isreali soldiers routinely r@pe isreali women. They r@pe palestinain doctors nurses. Murdering them then claiming that Israel are victims as they commit the worst war crimes imaginable ...and: Who bombs every single hospital? Israel Who bombs refugee camps murdering thousands of civilians? Israel Who r@pes palestinain civilians? Israel Who r@pes their own civilian? Israel Who targets Palestine children and shops them in the head? Israel Every single war crimes imaginable is inflicted by Israel against civilians always claiming Hamas this Hamas that to mask their horrors. Who plans tinned food with explosives in it and then places it in Gaza where they are starving palestinaisn to death? Israel murdering children desperate for food. Perhaps British people don't want to import people who spout that kind of nonsense." Ah.....😔 | |||
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" It is especially disheartening to hear calls to ban women from wearing religious clothing in the name of preserving conservative values. Throughout British history, and across many countries, women commonly wore shawls and head coverings as part of normal dress. Framing religious clothing as a threat ignores that history and turns personal faith into something to be policed. " How many Islamic countries would allow Western women to wear as they please in their countries? How many Islamic countries would allow Western gay men visiting those countries to kiss in public? Considering your rant about Israel, what's your opinion on the Iranian regime? | |||
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"Today in East London a peaceful Christian Street preacher was attacked and kicked to the ground by a mob of Muslim men. Tell him about fear and prejudice, OP.🤷" Are you talking about westbury rd in Walthamstow ? | |||
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"I am honestly exhausted by the racism that seems to be constantly on the rise. Voting for Reform will not solve the cost of living crisis, the housing crisis, or falling living standards. It feels like the same pattern repeating itself. People are encouraged to look at migrants and marginalised communities with suspicion while the real issues remain untouched and wealth continues to concentrate at the top. Minority communities contribute billions to the UK economy every year. Our cultures shape everyday British life. People enjoy our food, music, fashion and labour, yet still some choose fear over understanding, repeating the same tired narratives about who belongs and who does not. It is especially disheartening to hear calls to ban women from wearing religious clothing in the name of preserving conservative values. Throughout British history, and across many countries, women commonly wore shawls and head coverings as part of normal dress. Framing religious clothing as a threat ignores that history and turns personal faith into something to be policed. All the while housing becomes less affordable, bills rise, and more money flows into the pockets of billionaires. Instead of addressing these realities, the conversation is pushed towards division and blame. I do not want more politics built on fear. I want honesty about who benefits, accountability for those in power, and a society that refuses to treat difference as a problem. 43 weeks ago, you wrote the following: Israel is a terrorist state that murders children, women and any Palestine man They bomb hospitals schools ambulances and claim it’s Hamas despite it being the most documented genocide of our living history. Any one who claims palestinaisn use propaganda or are lying is a Zionist or idiotic and naive. Every human rights organisation internationally stated Isreal is committing a genocide. Israel r@ped their own hostage that were released by Hamas. They were not sexually assaulted by Hamas but isreali soldiers routinely r@pe isreali women. They r@pe palestinain doctors nurses. Murdering them then claiming that Israel are victims as they commit the worst war crimes imaginable ...and: Who bombs every single hospital? Israel Who bombs refugee camps murdering thousands of civilians? Israel Who r@pes palestinain civilians? Israel Who r@pes their own civilian? Israel Who targets Palestine children and shops them in the head? Israel Every single war crimes imaginable is inflicted by Israel against civilians always claiming Hamas this Hamas that to mask their horrors. Who plans tinned food with explosives in it and then places it in Gaza where they are starving palestinaisn to death? Israel murdering children desperate for food. Perhaps British people don't want to import people who spout that kind of nonsense." Great post, showing the OP is exactly what he says he is against... | |||
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"Weird. Chels is non white and non British and the only 'racism' she's experienced is from the left; namely some Socialist Worker/Communist Party types in a City Centre who made some pretty inappropriate comments when informed that she's from Hong Kong and not really interested in Communism.... Also, you seem to have bundled belief systems into your concept of racism. Religions are a set of ideas and beliefs...both things that can and should be debated, criticised and even ridiculed. Reform are not much different to Labour under John Smith. A very good friend of mine worked for the intelligence services in the nineties and infiltrated the BNP and National Front. That is REAL racism. The type of folks who would cave someone's face in with a brick for having the 'wrong' skin colour. Calling mainstream political parties racist just devalues the word. Ironically, Labour are the only mainstream party to have been found guilty of institutional racism, around the same time in 2017 that Nick Griffin of the BNP endorsed them. Though seemingly the left don't see Jews as a race and feel they make all sorts of comments and dog whistles without repercussion. Rant over." Good rant, well said ! The misuse of the word 'racist' unfortunately let's the real racists off the hook. | |||
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"Weird. Chels is non white and non British and the only 'racism' she's experienced is from the left; namely some Socialist Worker/Communist Party types in a City Centre who made some pretty inappropriate comments when informed that she's from Hong Kong and not really interested in Communism.... Also, you seem to have bundled belief systems into your concept of racism. Religions are a set of ideas and beliefs...both things that can and should be debated, criticised and even ridiculed. Reform are not much different to Labour under John Smith. A very good friend of mine worked for the intelligence services in the nineties and infiltrated the BNP and National Front. That is REAL racism. The type of folks who would cave someone's face in with a brick for having the 'wrong' skin colour. Calling mainstream political parties racist just devalues the word. Ironically, Labour are the only mainstream party to have been found guilty of institutional racism, around the same time in 2017 that Nick Griffin of the BNP endorsed them. Though seemingly the left don't see Jews as a race and feel they make all sorts of comments and dog whistles without repercussion. Rant over." 👏👏👏 | |||
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"…the BNP and National Front. That is REAL racism. The type of folks who would cave someone's face in with a brick for having the 'wrong' skin colour. " I mean the Equality act is probably a better place to start if you’re looking for a definition | |||
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"_aaay from what i read it is you that is the racist. "Exactly! But if one is busy calling other people racist, some people can be distracted and not spot it. Standard redirection tactic | |||
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"I am honestly exhausted by the racism that seems to be constantly on the rise. Voting for Reform will not solve the cost of living crisis, the housing crisis, or falling living standards. It feels like the same pattern repeating itself. People are encouraged to look at migrants and marginalised communities with suspicion while the real issues remain untouched and wealth continues to concentrate at the top. Minority communities contribute billions to the UK economy every year. Our cultures shape everyday British life. People enjoy our food, music, fashion and labour, yet still some choose fear over understanding, repeating the same tired narratives about who belongs and who does not. It is especially disheartening to hear calls to ban women from wearing religious clothing in the name of preserving conservative values. Throughout British history, and across many countries, women commonly wore shawls and head coverings as part of normal dress. Framing religious clothing as a threat ignores that history and turns personal faith into something to be policed. All the while housing becomes less affordable, bills rise, and more money flows into the pockets of billionaires. Instead of addressing these realities, the conversation is pushed towards division and blame. I do not want more politics built on fear. I want honesty about who benefits, accountability for those in power, and a society that refuses to treat difference as a problem." Well Done YOU - OP, have convinced me to vote REFORM | |||
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"Says “I’m non-judgemental and open-minded” on profile. Also says “I’m exclusively into South Asian women or women of colour” on profile… cries about racism. Yeh ok bud." Yep, first thing I spotted too, Totally racist | |||
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"What makes it harder to watch is seeing people treat Reform as if it represents something new or different from the Conservatives. Where as in reality, the politics is closely linked, many of the talking points overlap, especially around immigration, national identity, and culture war issues. Reform pushes them more bluntly, while the Conservatives have often introduced similar ideas more gradually through policy and rhetoric Figures associated with Reform have long influenced Conservatives all the while they screwed you through implementing austerity, and pressure from the right has repeatedly shifted Conservative positions on borders, asylum, and policing. The reality is that voting for Reform is not feel a break from the system. It feels like an extension of the same approach, only louder, where social division becomes the focus while structural problems remain. All the while those at the top line their pockets. You can literally see what’s happening in America where trump has erased civil liberties where white people are shot dead by ice who pose no threat all the while ice remains untouchable. Facism is born from instigating these divisions in society. Migrants or refugees, brown black ppl are not the reason you are poorer, that’s policy by the right wing governments, Labour Party is conservative in all but name, as you can see the deep ties thy have to Israel who currently are commuting war crimes through a genocide. " We live in a democracy if someone wants to vote for a carrot they can. Some countries in this world, particularly the middle east don't let you vote. Best park the high horse and accept others voting rights. The Palestinian band wagon isn't as cracked up and high almighty as you'd like to think. Even if Palestine controlled the whole of Isreal they would still hate the Jews and want to wipe them off the face of the earth. Playing the victim in this affair isn't fooling anyone. I've witnessed a moslem hate on a black person, and vice versa. Racism is endemic in Islamic culture. Try marrying a Hindu to Moslem and watch the sparks fly. Racist and r#pists aren't necessarily always white.  | |||
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"Mass immigration is destroying this country and has done for the last 30 years, you can wrap it up anyway you like but it's true. At some point in the near future millions will be leaving, nothing personel just necessary" Why has it destroyed this country? | |||
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"Mass immigration is destroying this country and has done for the last 30 years, you can wrap it up anyway you like but it's true. At some point in the near future millions will be leaving, nothing personel just necessary" So they’ll be immigrating? Perhaps en mass? | |||
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"Minority communities contribute billions to the UK economy every year. Our cultures shape everyday British life" We have dug really really hard, and aside from foreign interest backed 'diversity advocacy organisations' we really cannot find where this data is coming from. What we can find is actual government data that shows the lowest income households are specific minorities. So maybe instead of parroting slogans from vested interests perhaps look into the data more? Importantly, who is presenting the data and what's their angle? For example, if ethnic minorities contribute so much, why does the Gov website itself highlight; "over half of households in each of the Asian Other (58%), Black (60%), Other (62%) and Pakistani (72%) ethnic groups were in the 2 lowest income quintiles" https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/work-pay-and-benefits/pay-and-income/income-distribution/latest/ Sadly, there has evidently been zero effort when it comes to integration by the UK government, so what our future will hold is sectarianism and violence. People are already voting along ethnic lines. Such things will only lead to violence and conflict, unless of course certain groups stop referring to themselves separately and speak of themselves as a collective with everyone else; British. Integration is a choice, and sadly far too many aren't integrating. | |||
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"Reform is the Tory party in a new skin suit." With the recent defections from Tory to Reform I think that's a real danger for them. Personally I link them to the Tories more now than ever | |||
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"I'd say that a good example of bigotry is calling someone a racist merely because he has expressed a particular taste for a narrower selection of sexual partners, which is surely his choice and doesn't impinge on the choice of others..." That wasn't the issue. Several of the follow-up messages by the OP in this thread were deleted. Let's leave it there. | |||
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"I'd say that a good example of bigotry is calling someone a racist merely because he has expressed a particular taste for a narrower selection of sexual partners, which is surely his choice and doesn't impinge on the choice of others..." I'd say that whoever thinks or says such a thing clearly doesn't know what the word bigotry means... | |||
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"I'd say that a good example of bigotry is calling someone a racist merely because he has expressed a particular taste for a narrower selection of sexual partners, which is surely his choice and doesn't impinge on the choice of others... I'd say that whoever thinks or says such a thing clearly doesn't know what the word bigotry means..." Well, I looked it up just to to check before I made that post... ...but if you know better... | |||
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"Well, I looked it up just to to check before I made that post..." That's... even worse. Let's see; "bigotry /{¬y4g=¬}b{¬yao=¬}{¬yaE=¬}{¬yZk=¬}tri/ noun obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief, opinion, or faction, in particular prejudice against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group" "racist /{¬y4g=¬}re{¬yao=¬}s{¬yao=¬}st/ adjective characterized by or showing prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group noun a person who is prejudiced against or antagonistic towards people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group" Sooo, yeah. Seems pretty self-explanatory to me. "...but if you know better..." Certainly seems that way, yeah. | |||
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"I am honestly exhausted by the racism that seems to be constantly on the rise. Voting for Reform will not solve the cost of living crisis, the housing crisis, or falling living standards. It feels like the same pattern repeating itself. People are encouraged to look at migrants and marginalised communities with suspicion while the real issues remain untouched and wealth continues to concentrate at the top. ." I will cut your nonsense short, rather than repeat all the dribble you are sprouting regarding REFORM as "factually" you and everyone has absolutely no idea what they can, or cannot do, as they have not been in power as of yet. What we do know; is that Labour, Conservatives and Lib Dems have been in power (UK government) and SNP & green's have been in power in Scotland, and every party mentioned have been utter disasters although Labour right now are proven to be the worst party in history of UK government. . Will Reform be better or worse? Nobody knows as of yet, but im sure we may find out at next election. What I can tell, with the OPs first and second posts is that he indeed is Racist and possibly a very dangerous unstable person. . I will pray for him tonight and hopefully he will see the errors in his way. | |||
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" Will Reform be better or worse? Nobody knows as of yet, but im sure we may find out at next election. " Farage has visited America more times (8) than he has held local surgeries in Clacton (0). That’s indicative of how he feels about his position. | |||
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"I am honestly exhausted by the racism that seems to be constantly on the rise. Voting for Reform will not solve the cost of living crisis, the housing crisis, or falling living standards. It feels like the same pattern repeating itself. People are encouraged to look at migrants and marginalised communities with suspicion while the real issues remain untouched and wealth continues to concentrate at the top. . I will cut your nonsense short, rather than repeat all the dribble you are sprouting regarding REFORM as "factually" you and everyone has absolutely no idea what they can, or cannot do, as they have not been in power as of yet. What we do know; is that Labour, Conservatives and Lib Dems have been in power (UK government) and SNP & green's have been in power in Scotland, and every party mentioned have been utter disasters although Labour right now are proven to be the worst party in history of UK government. . Will Reform be better or worse? Nobody knows as of yet, but im sure we may find out at next election. What I can tell, with the OPs first and second posts is that he indeed is Racist and possibly a very dangerous unstable person. . I will pray for him tonight and hopefully he will see the errors in his way." Please explain what you found that would suggest the OP is Racist and unhinged? It may not be in a tone that is easy to digest if you have differing opinions, but he makes good points and appears well informed. | |||
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" Please explain what you found that would suggest the OP is Racist and unhinged? It may not be in a tone that is easy to digest if you have differing opinions, but he makes good points and appears well informed. " There were previous posts that were deleted by admin, for breach of ToS, which were unhinged... | |||
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" It may not be in a tone that is easy to digest if you have differing opinions, but he makes good points and appears well informed. " Out of curiosity, do you feel that the following are "good points"? Genuinely curious. " Who r@pes palestinain civilians? Israel Who r@pes their own civilian? Israel Who targets Palestine children and shops them in the head? Israel ... Who plans tinned food with explosives in it and then places it in Gaza where they are starving palestinaisn to death? Israel murdering children desperate for food. " | |||
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"Whether ‘stopping all the migrants will solve all the UK’s problems’ actually turns out to be the case is another thing entirely. …and if it doesn’t solve all the UK’s problems, where do the alt right go from there exactly? " Getting rid of the ones already here. There's no secret about that from Reform leadership - it's policy. So it's not just about "stopping all the migrants". | |||
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"Whether ‘stopping all the migrants will solve all the UK’s problems’ actually turns out to be the case is another thing entirely. …and if it doesn’t solve all the UK’s problems, where do the alt right go from there exactly? Getting rid of the ones already here. There's no secret about that from Reform leadership - it's policy. So it's not just about "stopping all the migrants"." And totally destroying the economy in the process. | |||
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"... where do the alt right go from there exactly?" What's your definition of "alt right", and how do they differ from 'normal' right? | |||
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"... where do the alt right go from there exactly? What's your definition of "alt right", and how do they differ from 'normal' right?" Alt-right has a definition. It’s predominantly based around white supremacy. | |||
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"... where do the alt right go from there exactly?" "What's your definition of "alt right", and how do they differ from 'normal' right?" "Alt-right has a definition. It’s predominantly based around white supremacy." I didn't ask for a generic definition, I asked that particular poster what their specific definition is. | |||
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"... where do the alt right go from there exactly? What's your definition of "alt right", and how do they differ from 'normal' right? Alt-right has a definition. It’s predominantly based around white supremacy. I didn't ask for a generic definition, I asked that particular poster what their specific definition is." Fair - but then we’re potentially getting into the sadly common theme of people inventing meanings like we see with ‘woke’ - where it means whatever th user wishes it to. | |||
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"Conservatives racist? Jez, there's me thinking it's more diverse then the white party (labour) "i know right an indian primeminister and three female primeministers they hate diversity lol | |||
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