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"Always something of the night about him" Extraordinary how many comebacks he has made- he must have some serious dirt on other politicians. | |||
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"I'm not suggesting at all that his behaviour is as serious or criminal, but Mandelson reminds me of Saville - everyone knew he was a wrong un but carried on as if there was no problem at all. Like Saville he made a point to surround himself with rich and powerful people to protect him." It's no wonder all these billionaires are building underground bunkers, they're frighted the poor people will remember where they left the pitchforks. | |||
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"I'm not suggesting at all that his behaviour is as serious or criminal, but Mandelson reminds me of Saville - everyone knew he was a wrong un but carried on as if there was no problem at all. Like Saville he made a point to surround himself with rich and powerful people to protect him. It's no wonder all these billionaires are building underground bunkers, they're frighted the poor people will remember where they left the pitchforks. " You're not wrong J ! 🙈 | |||
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"Starmer calling on Andrew to testify in US but not Mandelson? Also silence from his best friends Blair and Campbell..." While Starmer opening the door to prosecute veterans | |||
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"Just resigned from the Labour Party. Should now lose his title. Beyond incredible that Starmer made him Ambassador to US - another hammer blow to Sir Kier and Labour." More Labour MP’s imprisoned for expenses fraud than from any other party. | |||
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"Peter Mandelson, the former trade secretary, escaped punishment yessterday after being condemned as the first minister to breach new tough standards of integrity in public life by not declaring his £373,000 home loan from his fellow MP, Geoffrey Robinson. A damning report from Elizabeth Filkin, the parliamentary standards commissioner, upheld two of three complaints levelled against the former minister Mr Mandelson for not registering the loan and not disclosing another £35,000 loan on his Hartlepool constituency home when he obtained his £150,000 mortgage from the Britannnia Building Society. She concludes: "Mr Mandelson, unknown to the Britannia Building Society, received his mortgage on a different basis from that which would have properly applied to other members of the public." (Guardian 02 July 1999)" I never understood how he wasn't charged with mortgage fraud over this. Totally corrupt. | |||
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"Now revealed he leaked confidential information about Govt economic policy to Epstein who could benefit from it." Mortgage fraud, espionage and taking money from sex trafficker. None of it on Parliament standards disclosure | |||
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"Mandy, Prince of Darkness. Essentially I’d say he’s a perve surrounded by other perves who’ve been protecting him for decades. He’s probably seen and done things that would make any right thinking person shudder. He’s the tip of a very nasty iceberg." Appointed by QC Starmer | |||
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"Mandy, Prince of Darkness. Essentially I’d say he’s a perve surrounded by other perves who’ve been protecting him for decades. He’s probably seen and done things that would make any right thinking person shudder. He’s the tip of a very nasty iceberg. Appointed by QC Starmer " shows a real lack of good judgment by Starmer everyone new Mandelson was dodgy | |||
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"Mandy, Prince of Darkness. Essentially I’d say he’s a perve surrounded by other perves who’ve been protecting him for decades. He’s probably seen and done things that would make any right thinking person shudder. He’s the tip of a very nasty iceberg. Appointed by QC Starmer shows a real lack of good judgment by Starmer everyone new Mandelson was dodgy " And the other appointments he made Rayner, parliamentary gifts non disclosure, HMRC stamp duty return and use of son’s trust fund. Reeves appointment ‘ Rachel worked at the bank of England’ boasted Starmer. Later we find out she was in a middle management role and published a plagiarised book. Her CV subsequently amended. Her previous home rented out without council approval via selective licence while Labour spearheading the renter rights act. The anti corruption minister he appointed given a prison sentence for corruption. The homelessness minister he appointed had to resign for issuing a S21 on her tenants then tried reletting the property for higher rent. Add the free undisclosed donor gifts, new suits and clothes for Starmer, Rayner and Reeves. | |||
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"Mandy, Prince of Darkness. Essentially I’d say he’s a perve surrounded by other perves who’ve been protecting him for decades. He’s probably seen and done things that would make any right thinking person shudder. He’s the tip of a very nasty iceberg. Appointed by QC Starmer shows a real lack of good judgment by Starmer everyone new Mandelson was dodgy And the other appointments he made Rayner, parliamentary gifts non disclosure, HMRC stamp duty return and use of son’s trust fund. Reeves appointment ‘ Rachel worked at the bank of England’ boasted Starmer. Later we find out she was in a middle management role and published a plagiarised book. Her CV subsequently amended. Her previous home rented out without council approval via selective licence while Labour spearheading the renter rights act. The anti corruption minister he appointed given a prison sentence for corruption. The homelessness minister he appointed had to resign for issuing a S21 on her tenants then tried reletting the property for higher rent. Add the free undisclosed donor gifts, new suits and clothes for Starmer, Rayner and Reeves. " The Transport Minister Louise Haigh who had a criminal conviction for stealing a work phone. | |||
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"Mandy, Prince of Darkness. Essentially I’d say he’s a perve surrounded by other perves who’ve been protecting him for decades. He’s probably seen and done things that would make any right thinking person shudder. He’s the tip of a very nasty iceberg." 🎯 | |||
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"Wes Streeting also very close to Mandelson. His partner is a former advisor to Mandy and he's publicly defended his friendship with Epstein. Probably ended his chances of becoming leader this year." How is Starmer going to fend off all these bad appointments he’s made | |||
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"Wes Streeting also very close to Mandelson. His partner is a former advisor to Mandy and he's publicly defended his friendship with Epstein. Probably ended his chances of becoming leader this year. How is Starmer going to fend off all these bad appointments he’s made " He's done. | |||
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"Next up Labour MP Dan Norris arrested on suspicion of r**e, sexual assault and upskirting" Isn't he already on bail for something? Another by election on the way. | |||
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"He should be investigated, including for whether any criminal offences were committed. And he likely should lose his title. He should also repay any money from Epstein, to charities caring for abused girls and women, with interest charged too" 🎯 | |||
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"It just gets worse...New email says Mandelson gave Epstein advance notice of 500bn Euro bail out, hugely important inside information. Also he'd previously denied any involvement with women or girls through Epstein as he was gay, now a photo shows him in underwear with young woman. This seems like a serious criminal matter now, both his financial dealings and complicity with Epstein's crimes." Espionage for financial gain. Traitor Prison | |||
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"Next up Labour MP Dan Norris arrested on suspicion of r**e, sexual assault and upskirting" He was suspended from Labour once he was arrested in April last year, he's an independent.. | |||
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"It just gets worse...New email says Mandelson gave Epstein advance notice of 500bn Euro bail out, hugely important inside information. Also he'd previously denied any involvement with women or girls through Epstein as he was gay, now a photo shows him in underwear with young woman. This seems like a serious criminal matter now, both his financial dealings and complicity with Epstein's crimes." Similar to the vip tory friends lane in the pandemic perhaps..? Yes he's slippery and always a shifty fucker but sleaze and corruption with some of them really is the one cross party issue they all share.. | |||
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"Looks like Starmer who appointed all these people is up to his neck in shit " This and defeat in Gorton by election will put him out of his misery. No coming back now. | |||
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"It just gets worse...New email says Mandelson gave Epstein advance notice of 500bn Euro bail out, hugely important inside information. Also he'd previously denied any involvement with women or girls through Epstein as he was gay, now a photo shows him in underwear with young woman. This seems like a serious criminal matter now, both his financial dealings and complicity with Epstein's crimes. Similar to the vip tory friends lane in the pandemic perhaps..? " Not really at all like that. | |||
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"Looks like Starmer who appointed all these people is up to his neck in shit " The appointment of Mandelsohn looks increasingly like a major fuck up, Boris was effectively brought down over the Chris Pincher affair.. This could topple Starmer in the same complete lack of judgement manner.. | |||
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"It just gets worse...New email says Mandelson gave Epstein advance notice of 500bn Euro bail out, hugely important inside information. Also he'd previously denied any involvement with women or girls through Epstein as he was gay, now a photo shows him in underwear with young woman. This seems like a serious criminal matter now, both his financial dealings and complicity with Epstein's crimes. Similar to the vip tory friends lane in the pandemic perhaps..? Not really at all like that." 
Bless your naivety..
Perhaps look at what the good law project found and if that was Labour doing the same come back and say if it would have been acceptable..
BTW, its absolutely not whomever the party is or whatever the situation was/is and equally neither is what's been alleged thus far with Mandelsohn.. | |||
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"It just gets worse...New email says Mandelson gave Epstein advance notice of 500bn Euro bail out, hugely important inside information. Also he'd previously denied any involvement with women or girls through Epstein as he was gay, now a photo shows him in underwear with young woman. This seems like a serious criminal matter now, both his financial dealings and complicity with Epstein's crimes. Similar to the vip tory friends lane in the pandemic perhaps..? Not really at all Perhaps look at what the good law project found and if that was Labour doing the same come back and say if it would have been acceptable.. " Good Law Project ! The one that's run by that crank QC who killed a fox while wearing his wife's nightie then boasted about it on Twitter! 🤣 Thanks for the light relief but this was meant to be a serous thread. | |||
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"SNP and Reform report Mandelson to the police. " Starmer should have done that. Its probably seen as "bad form old boy" ratting on one's handler though. | |||
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"SNP and Reform report Mandelson to the police. Starmer should have done that. Its probably seen as "bad form old boy" ratting on one's handler though. " An honourable man would now resign. And let's not forget the bizarre case involving young men allegedly setting fire to his house and car. Wtf is all that about. | |||
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"SNP and Reform report Mandelson to the police. Starmer should have done that. Its probably seen as "bad form old boy" ratting on one's handler though. An honourable man would now resign. And let's not forget the bizarre case involving young men allegedly setting fire to his house and car. Wtf is all that about." Well, certain factions in certain (high) places allege Eastern European rent boys being rather miffed at not getting paid... but I couldn't possibly comment on such matters. | |||
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"SNP and Reform report Mandelson to the police. Starmer should have done that. Its probably seen as "bad form old boy" ratting on one's handler though. An honourable man would now resign. And let's not forget the bizarre case involving young men allegedly setting fire to his house and car. Wtf is all that about. Well, certain factions in certain (high) places allege Eastern European rent boys being rather miffed at not getting paid... but I couldn't possibly comment on such matters. " 🙊🙊🙊 | |||
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"Gordon Brown said he asked Cabinet Secretary to investigate Mandelson's contact with Epstein during financial crisis in September!! So clearly this information was out there months ago and Starmer did nothing." The old Blair - Brown hate never dies! Brown putting the boot into Mandy with Starmer as collateral damage. | |||
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"Waiting for Starmer’s resignation " Might be a long wait ! But after Gorton by election defeat and disaster in May elections I think there will be a leadership challenge. Needs 81 MPs (20%) to trigger one and that seems plausible. | |||
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"If there's a link to Mandelson leaking information about the Gold sell off there will be hell to pay. Epstein seemed interested in the saleable assets in the released communications. Prison officers get jail time for snogging an inmate under 'misconduct in public office'....Mandelson is done for." He’s been done for before and brought back from the abyss. Should change his name to Lazarus. He’ll face no consequences of his actions cos his bezzie mate is the PM. Ironic that only a couple of days ago Starmer was calling for the artist formerly know as Prince Andrew to face the music in the states. The two faced wanker won’t do the same for his Champagne social buddy | |||
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"Waiting for Starmer’s resignation " You'll be a long time waiting i feel.. | |||
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"If there's a link to Mandelson leaking information about the Gold sell off there will be hell to pay. Epstein seemed interested in the saleable assets in the released communications. Prison officers get jail time for snogging an inmate under 'misconduct in public office'....Mandelson is done for. He’s been done for before and brought back from the abyss. Should change his name to Lazarus. He’ll face no consequences of his actions cos his bezzie mate is the PM. Ironic that only a couple of days ago Starmer was calling for the artist formerly know as Prince Andrew to face the music in the states. The two faced wanker won’t do the same for his Champagne social buddy " Mandelsohn is gone and rightly so, theres no coming back from this even if he doesn't get jail time for what so far looks like a criminal offence plus his actions go far beyond the pale in doing what he did for what looks like financial gain.. | |||
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"If there's a link to Mandelson leaking information about the Gold sell off there will be hell to pay. Epstein seemed interested in the saleable assets in the released communications. Prison officers get jail time for snogging an inmate under 'misconduct in public office'....Mandelson is done for." Mandelson sold information worth billions in exchange for 10k for his boyfriend to do physio training ??!! I can't believe he wasn't compromised by involvement in Epstein's other crimes. | |||
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"Waiting for Starmer’s resignation You'll be a long time waiting i feel.." Apparently Mandelson and Morgan McSweeney spoke and messaged every day and he pressured Starmer to appoint him Ambassador, and to keep him in post. Short term his position is less tenable than Starmer, but if he goes its another blow to Starmer's credibility. | |||
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"Waiting for Starmer’s resignation You'll be a long time waiting i feel.. Apparently Mandelson and Morgan McSweeney spoke and messaged every day and he pressured Starmer to appoint him Ambassador, and to keep him in post. Short term his position is less tenable than Starmer, but if he goes its another blow to Starmer's credibility." From the sidelines I’m surprised other parties aren’t making political capital from these events. As others here have said likely more to come | |||
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"Waiting for Starmer’s resignation You'll be a long time waiting i feel.. Apparently Mandelson and Morgan McSweeney spoke and messaged every day and he pressured Starmer to appoint him Ambassador, and to keep him in post. Short term his position is less tenable than Starmer, but if he goes its another blow to Starmer's credibility. From the sidelines I’m surprised other parties aren’t making political capital from these events. As others here have said likely more to come " It's yet another gift to Reform, and the Greens. The two party system is broken. | |||
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"I think the government should give every British citizen 18 to 99+ £5000 as gesture of goodwill for having to put up with all constant barage of shit about the Epstien affair in the media. " I vote for that ! 🤣🤣 | |||
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"If Starmer had even an ounce of sense he'd throw that McSweeney bellend under the bus and lead the charge calling for Mandelson to be jailed. I hate politicians, the cunts of cunts, pretending they're in it to improve the country and the lives of people, they do it for themselves regardless of how they portray themselves. You kinda expect this from the right wing ‘everyone for themselves’ mentality but when it comes from a ‘Labour’ politician it’s arguably even worse. " New Labour was always about getting very close to the super rich with few questions asked. How the fuck is Blair worth so much money now ?  | |||
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"If Starmer had even an ounce of sense he'd throw that McSweeney bellend under the bus and lead the charge calling for Mandelson to be jailed. I hate politicians, the cunts of cunts, pretending they're in it to improve the country and the lives of people, they do it for themselves regardless of how they portray themselves. You kinda expect this from the right wing ‘everyone for themselves’ mentality but when it comes from a ‘Labour’ politician it’s arguably even worse. " Labour are just as didgy as the torys, the labour party stopped being the labour party the day john smith died and blair and his band of cunts took control of the party, starmer and his ilk are just more of the same just like the bellends cameron and Osborne | |||
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"If there's a link to Mandelson leaking information about the Gold sell off there will be hell to pay. Epstein seemed interested in the saleable assets in the released communications. Prison officers get jail time for snogging an inmate under 'misconduct in public office'....Mandelson is done for. Mandelson sold information worth billions in exchange for 10k for his boyfriend to do physio training ??!! I can't believe he wasn't compromised by involvement in Epstein's other crimes." Guilt by association is a stupid thought process, its one step away from a mob who attacked the house of a paediatrician.. Im fairly sure that when his name was put forward to the Americans that anything of the nature of Epsteins vile actions that was in the files if not before would have been raised.. Ditto anyone saying for irrelevant political point scoring that Thatcher because she knighted and took tea with Saville was compromised by his actions.. You can do better.. | |||
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"If Starmer had even an ounce of sense he'd throw that McSweeney bellend under the bus and lead the charge calling for Mandelson to be jailed. I hate politicians, the cunts of cunts, pretending they're in it to improve the country and the lives of people, they do it for themselves regardless of how they portray themselves. You kinda expect this from the right wing ‘everyone for themselves’ mentality but when it comes from a ‘Labour’ politician it’s arguably even worse. New Labour was always about getting very close to the super rich with few questions asked. How the fuck is Blair worth so much money now ? "Probably the same way that Boris earned £4.8 million in less than six months after he stood down.. The super rich and the corporate world via lobbyists and Parliamentary Support Groups are all over our politics and happy to pay.. And let's be honest its not the personality they're paying for, its knowledge, influence etc.. | |||
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"If there's a link to Mandelson leaking information about the Gold sell off there will be hell to pay. Epstein seemed interested in the saleable assets in the released communications. Prison officers get jail time for snogging an inmate under 'misconduct in public office'....Mandelson is done for. Mandelson sold information worth billions in exchange for 10k for his boyfriend to do physio training ??!! I can't believe he wasn't compromised by involvement in Epstein's other crimes. Guilt by association is a stupid thought process, its one step away from a mob who attacked the house of a paediatrician.. Im fairly sure that when his name was put forward to the Americans that anything of the nature of Epsteins vile actions that was in the files if not before would have been raised.. Ditto anyone saying for irrelevant political point scoring that Thatcher because she knighted and took tea with Saville was compromised by his actions.. You can do better.." Photos of Mandy in his underwear with young women. Dozens of sexual references in his emails, to men and women. One sent from South Africa where he tells Epstein he is with 'pretty women of your persuasion'. 'Guilt by association' indeed... | |||
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"If Starmer had even an ounce of sense he'd throw that McSweeney bellend under the bus and lead the charge calling for Mandelson to be jailed. I hate politicians, the cunts of cunts, pretending they're in it to improve the country and the lives of people, they do it for themselves regardless of how they portray themselves. You kinda expect this from the right wing ‘everyone for themselves’ mentality but when it comes from a ‘Labour’ politician it’s arguably even worse. New Labour was always about getting very close to the super rich with few questions asked. How the fuck is Blair worth so much money now ?
Probably the same way that Boris earned £4.8 million in less than six months after he stood down..
The super rich and the corporate world via lobbyists and Parliamentary Support Groups are all over our politics and happy to pay..
And let's be honest its not the personality they're paying for, its knowledge, influence etc.."Yes, let's talk about anything but Labour.🤣 | |||
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"In another man like Mandleson would be locking himself in a room with a whiskey and a loaded pistol." After the Profumo scandal in 1963, John Profumo withdrew from politics and devoted the rest of his life to his charity for the underprivileged in the East End. Different times indeed. | |||
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"If there's a link to Mandelson leaking information about the Gold sell off there will be hell to pay. Epstein seemed interested in the saleable assets in the released communications. Prison officers get jail time for snogging an inmate under 'misconduct in public office'....Mandelson is done for. Mandelson sold information worth billions in exchange for 10k for his boyfriend to do physio training ??!! I can't believe he wasn't compromised by involvement in Epstein's other crimes. Guilt by association is a stupid thought process, its one step away from a mob who attacked the house of a paediatrician.. Im fairly sure that when his name was put forward to the Americans that anything of the nature of Epsteins vile actions that was in the files if not before would have been raised.. Ditto anyone saying for irrelevant political point scoring that Thatcher because she knighted and took tea with Saville was compromised by his actions.. You can do better.. Photos of Mandy in his underwear with young women. Dozens of sexual references in his emails, to men and women. One sent from South Africa where he tells Epstein he is with 'pretty women of your persuasion'. 'Guilt by association' indeed..." Again your doing it.. There's been no one so far who has come forward, there dozens sadly who have done with accusations so likely there are other victims.. Sending salacious emails or being photographed in your underwear isn't proof of one of the most heinous crimes one can be accused of.. And people have in being accused of such taken their own lives.. Fact is whatever went on will likely remain hidden as it still is, the Dems didnt fully release everything and neither will the Republicans.. Mandelson is a slimy fucker and deserves his comeuppance for what is proven.. Not because he might have known or he was friends with or he visited Epstein because that tenuous tittle tattle isn't how we judge people in law and using that as a benchmark is not happening in Epsteins case with the people he knew and who visited him.. Ask yourself why..? | |||
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"If Starmer had even an ounce of sense he'd throw that McSweeney bellend under the bus and lead the charge calling for Mandelson to be jailed. I hate politicians, the cunts of cunts, pretending they're in it to improve the country and the lives of people, they do it for themselves regardless of how they portray themselves. You kinda expect this from the right wing ‘everyone for themselves’ mentality but when it comes from a ‘Labour’ politician it’s arguably even worse. New Labour was always about getting very close to the super rich with few questions asked. How the fuck is Blair worth so much money now ?
Probably the same way that Boris earned £4.8 million in less than six months after he stood down..
The super rich and the corporate world via lobbyists and Parliamentary Support Groups are all over our politics and happy to pay..
And let's be honest its not the personality they're paying for, its knowledge, influence etc..
Yes, let's talk about anything but Labour.🤣"No.. Corruption and the ease of how some in political life earn after they leave office is not a one party thing.. If you think it is you need to take your blinkers off.. | |||
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"If Starmer had even an ounce of sense he'd throw that McSweeney bellend under the bus and lead the charge calling for Mandelson to be jailed. I hate politicians, the cunts of cunts, pretending they're in it to improve the country and the lives of people, they do it for themselves regardless of how they portray themselves. You kinda expect this from the right wing ‘everyone for themselves’ mentality but when it comes from a ‘Labour’ politician it’s arguably even worse. New Labour was always about getting very close to the super rich with few questions asked. How the fuck is Blair worth so much money now ?
Probably the same way that Boris earned £4.8 million in less than six months after he stood down..
The super rich and the corporate world via lobbyists and Parliamentary Support Groups are all over our politics and happy to pay..
And let's be honest its not the personality they're paying for, its knowledge, influence etc..
Yes, let's talk about anything but Labour.🤣
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Corruption and the ease of how some in political life earn after they leave office is not a one party thing..
If you think it is you need to take your blinkers off.. "The Mandelson scandal, which this thread is about, is absolutely a one party thing. More than anyone he created the modern Labour Party and he has close personal relations with almost every key Labour figure (outside of the Corbyn leadership period) of the last 30 years, not least our current Prime Minister. He has no link to any other party that I'm aware of. This is of Labour and on Labour and no amount of diversion will save Labour from the well deserved oblivion coming down the tracks.👋 | |||
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"If Starmer had even an ounce of sense he'd throw that McSweeney bellend under the bus and lead the charge calling for Mandelson to be jailed. I hate politicians, the cunts of cunts, pretending they're in it to improve the country and the lives of people, they do it for themselves regardless of how they portray themselves. You kinda expect this from the right wing ‘everyone for themselves’ mentality but when it comes from a ‘Labour’ politician it’s arguably even worse. New Labour was always about getting very close to the super rich with few questions asked. How the fuck is Blair worth so much money now ?
Probably the same way that Boris earned £4.8 million in less than six months after he stood down..
The super rich and the corporate world via lobbyists and Parliamentary Support Groups are all over our politics and happy to pay..
And let's be honest its not the personality they're paying for, its knowledge, influence etc..
Yes, let's talk about anything but Labour.🤣
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Corruption and the ease of how some in political life earn after they leave office is not a one party thing..
If you think it is you need to take your blinkers off..
The Mandelson scandal, which this thread is about, is absolutely a one party thing. More than anyone he created the modern Labour Party and he has close personal relations with almost every key Labour figure (outside of the Corbyn leadership period) of the last 30 years, not least our current Prime Minister. He has no link to any other party that I'm aware of. This is of Labour and on Labour and no amount of diversion will save Labour from the well deserved oblivion coming down the tracks.👋"You brought Blair into it and his earnings, you might like to think can dictate how threads go but no you can't.. No one is deflecting fron what mandelson has done, ironic as that baseless claim is coming from you.. | |||
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"Sarah Ferguson's charity, Sarah's Trust, has announced it will close "for the foreseeable future" just days after new details emerged about the former Duchess of York's friendship with late sex offender Jeffrey Epstein More to come possibly " She doesn't come across well in what's been released, her and him should be sent to St Kilda .. Leeches.. | |||
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"Its only right that people are made accountable for the joint knowledge of the illegal activities. The Dark Prince Mandy's ethics have been known for years but nothing ever done. I'd really like the lesson learned to be to look around and stop the current scandals and illegal acts. Not be blinded chasing history. Fed up of inquests resulting in "we've made changes, it'll never happen again...nothing to see anywhere else." What was Mandy working on and with recently? " Very good questions. | |||
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"Looks like he jumped before he was pushed. Mandelson quits the Lords." Good.. Now strip him of his peerage..  | |||
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"Just for the record I’m no fan of Mandelson, and as a Republican I’m no fan of Andrew. Interesting to note that it seems to be only British associates of Epstein that seem to be facing ruin. Not really hearing of anything comparable happening to other nationalities who were in Epstein’s orbit? Different standards?" Perhaps you mean facing justice? | |||
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"Looks like he jumped before he was pushed. Mandelson quits the Lords. Good.. Now strip him of his peerage.. "And pension | |||
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"Looks like he jumped before he was pushed. Mandelson quits the Lords. Good.. Now strip him of his peerage..
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"Starmer appointed mortgage fraudster Mandelson He should go too" Tories and Reform pressing for full disclosure on what information Starmer had before appointing Mandelson as US Ambassador. | |||
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"Just for the record I’m no fan of Mandelson, and as a Republican I’m no fan of Andrew. Interesting to note that it seems to be only British associates of Epstein that seem to be facing ruin. Not really hearing of anything comparable happening to other nationalities who were in Epstein’s orbit? Different standards? Perhaps you mean facing justice?" Call it what you want, but we seem to treating Epstein associates differently over here, to how they’re being treated in America (for example). | |||
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"Just for the record I’m no fan of Mandelson, and as a Republican I’m no fan of Andrew. Interesting to note that it seems to be only British associates of Epstein that seem to be facing ruin. Not really hearing of anything comparable happening to other nationalities who were in Epstein’s orbit? Different standards? Perhaps you mean facing justice? Call it what you want, but we seem to treating Epstein associates differently over here, to how they’re being treated in America (for example)." Can you give an example? | |||
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"Just resigned from the Labour Party. Should now lose his title. Beyond incredible that Starmer made him Ambassador to US - another hammer blow to Sir Kier and Labour." Didn't t mango man request him ? Epstein "friends club" 🙄 | |||
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"Just for the record I’m no fan of Mandelson, and as a Republican I’m no fan of Andrew. Interesting to note that it seems to be only British associates of Epstein that seem to be facing ruin. Not really hearing of anything comparable happening to other nationalities who were in Epstein’s orbit? Different standards? Perhaps you mean facing justice? Call it what you want, but we seem to treating Epstein associates differently over here, to how they’re being treated in America (for example). Can you give an example?" One of them is the POTUS 🤷♂️ | |||
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"Just for the record I’m no fan of Mandelson, and as a Republican I’m no fan of Andrew. Interesting to note that it seems to be only British associates of Epstein that seem to be facing ruin. Not really hearing of anything comparable happening to other nationalities who were in Epstein’s orbit? Different standards? Perhaps you mean facing justice? Call it what you want, but we seem to treating Epstein associates differently over here, to how they’re being treated in America (for example). Can you give an example? One of them is the POTUS 🤷♂️" Lol, better late than never 🤣🤣 | |||
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"Just for the record I’m no fan of Mandelson, and as a Republican I’m no fan of Andrew. Interesting to note that it seems to be only British associates of Epstein that seem to be facing ruin. Not really hearing of anything comparable happening to other nationalities who were in Epstein’s orbit? Different standards? Perhaps you mean facing justice? Call it what you want, but we seem to treating Epstein associates differently over here, to how they’re being treated in America (for example). Can you give an example?" I don’t see Trump, Gates, Musk and many others on the brink of losing their jobs, status etc… | |||
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"Just for the record I’m no fan of Mandelson, and as a Republican I’m no fan of Andrew. Interesting to note that it seems to be only British associates of Epstein that seem to be facing ruin. Not really hearing of anything comparable happening to other nationalities who were in Epstein’s orbit? Different standards? Perhaps you mean facing justice? Call it what you want, but we seem to treating Epstein associates differently over here, to how they’re being treated in America (for example). Can you give an example? I don’t see Trump, Gates, Musk and many others on the brink of losing their jobs, status etc… " Oh I see 🤭 | |||
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"Just for the record I’m no fan of Mandelson, and as a Republican I’m no fan of Andrew. Interesting to note that it seems to be only British associates of Epstein that seem to be facing ruin. Not really hearing of anything comparable happening to other nationalities who were in Epstein’s orbit? Different standards? Perhaps you mean facing justice? Call it what you want, but we seem to treating Epstein associates differently over here, to how they’re being treated in America (for example)." A lot of this pulls attention away from the friends that he had and continued contact with, following his being jailed, for underage girl trafficking and the extremely atrocious experiences that they must have had and still face. The Mandy contact would have been miniscule in comparison with US/global elites, who continued seemingly as though nothing atrocious had been done. | |||
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"Just for the record I’m no fan of Mandelson, and as a Republican I’m no fan of Andrew. Interesting to note that it seems to be only British associates of Epstein that seem to be facing ruin. Not really hearing of anything comparable happening to other nationalities who were in Epstein’s orbit? Different standards? Perhaps you mean facing justice? Call it what you want, but we seem to treating Epstein associates differently over here, to how they’re being treated in America (for example). A lot of this pulls attention away from the friends that he had and continued contact with, following his being jailed, for underage girl trafficking and the extremely atrocious experiences that they must have had and still face. The Mandy contact would have been miniscule in comparison with US/global elites, who continued seemingly as though nothing atrocious had been done. " Mandelson had demonstrably closer and more long standing relationships with Epstein than any of those named above. Personally I find it impossible to believe he wasn't fully aware of Epstein's crimes, and quite likely he was involved personally. | |||
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"Just for the record I’m no fan of Mandelson, and as a Republican I’m no fan of Andrew. Interesting to note that it seems to be only British associates of Epstein that seem to be facing ruin. Not really hearing of anything comparable happening to other nationalities who were in Epstein’s orbit? Different standards? Perhaps you mean facing justice? Call it what you want, but we seem to treating Epstein associates differently over here, to how they’re being treated in America (for example). A lot of this pulls attention away from the friends that he had and continued contact with, following his being jailed, for underage girl trafficking and the extremely atrocious experiences that they must have had and still face. The Mandy contact would have been miniscule in comparison with US/global elites, who continued seemingly as though nothing atrocious had been done. Mandelson had demonstrably closer and more long standing relationships with Epstein than any of those named above. Personally I find it impossible to believe he wasn't fully aware of Epstein's crimes, and quite likely he was involved personally." More to come from this, Met are investigating now. Whatever the monarchy/ Starmer and Co covered up will come out | |||
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"Just for the record I’m no fan of Mandelson, and as a Republican I’m no fan of Andrew. Interesting to note that it seems to be only British associates of Epstein that seem to be facing ruin. Not really hearing of anything comparable happening to other nationalities who were in Epstein’s orbit? Different standards? Perhaps you mean facing justice? Call it what you want, but we seem to treating Epstein associates differently over here, to how they’re being treated in America (for example). A lot of this pulls attention away from the friends that he had and continued contact with, following his being jailed, for underage girl trafficking and the extremely atrocious experiences that they must have had and still face. The Mandy contact would have been miniscule in comparison with US/global elites, who continued seemingly as though nothing atrocious had been done. " mandy stayed in contact with the nonce after his first conviction for kiddy fiddling and even though Jeff boy had been done wrong,the prince of darkness knew exactly what his mate was all about,I watched the rest is politics yesterday and even Campbell and rory were trying to make excuses for mandleson,depraved bunch of cunts the lot of them | |||
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"Just for the record I’m no fan of Mandelson, and as a Republican I’m no fan of Andrew. Interesting to note that it seems to be only British associates of Epstein that seem to be facing ruin. Not really hearing of anything comparable happening to other nationalities who were in Epstein’s orbit? Different standards? Perhaps you mean facing justice? Call it what you want, but we seem to treating Epstein associates differently over here, to how they’re being treated in America (for example). A lot of this pulls attention away from the friends that he had and continued contact with, following his being jailed, for underage girl trafficking and the extremely atrocious experiences that they must have had and still face. The Mandy contact would have been miniscule in comparison with US/global elites, who continued seemingly as though nothing atrocious had been done. mandy stayed in contact with the nonce after his first conviction for kiddy fiddling and even though Jeff boy had been done wrong,the prince of darkness knew exactly what his mate was all about,I watched the rest is politics yesterday and even Campbell and rory were trying to make excuses for mandleson,depraved bunch of cunts the lot of them" I listened to The Rest Is Politics, and they weren’t making excuses. Campbell even commented on the fact that he previously met Epstein, and found him creepy. At least be factual when making comment. | |||
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"Just for the record I’m no fan of Mandelson, and as a Republican I’m no fan of Andrew. Interesting to note that it seems to be only British associates of Epstein that seem to be facing ruin. Not really hearing of anything comparable happening to other nationalities who were in Epstein’s orbit? Different standards? Perhaps you mean facing justice? Call it what you want, but we seem to treating Epstein associates differently over here, to how they’re being treated in America (for example). A lot of this pulls attention away from the friends that he had and continued contact with, following his being jailed, for underage girl trafficking and the extremely atrocious experiences that they must have had and still face. The Mandy contact would have been miniscule in comparison with US/global elites, who continued seemingly as though nothing atrocious had been done. mandy stayed in contact with the nonce after his first conviction for kiddy fiddling and even though Jeff boy had been done wrong,the prince of darkness knew exactly what his mate was all about,I watched the rest is politics yesterday and even Campbell and rory were trying to make excuses for mandleson,depraved bunch of cunts the lot of them I listened to The Rest Is Politics, and they weren’t making excuses. Campbell even commented on the fact that he previously met Epstein, and found him creepy. At least be factual when making comment." I didn't say they were making excuses for epstein but Campbell and rory were saying mandy is great political person but was duped by epstein so what's the excuse for still staying in contact with him after his first conviction and e mailing him to give him support against the accusations,fact is many is a wrong un and always has been but mcsemweeney and starmmer still thought it a good idea to give him a plum job,and why has it gone so quiet about starters arsonist Ukrainian rent boys? Let me guess russia are behind it lol | |||
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"Starmer struggling badly at PMQs, blaming everyone else 🙄. " He is being destroyed by opposition, whilst his own party discussion is e-bikes and school breakfasts. | |||
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"Starmer struggling badly at PMQs, blaming everyone else 🙄. " He’s trying. Not convinced it’s working | |||
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"Starmer struggling badly at PMQs, blaming everyone else 🙄. He is being destroyed by opposition, whilst his own party discussion is e-bikes and school breakfasts." Fingers crossed it brings the weasel down. He appointed mortgage fraudster Mandelson. Apparently he was also tipped off before Epstein but did nothing, more interested in prosecuting veterans and defending Reeves dodgy CV | |||
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"Starmer struggling badly at PMQs, blaming everyone else 🙄. He is being destroyed by opposition, whilst his own party discussion is e-bikes and school breakfasts." Embarrassing 😳 | |||
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"Starmer struggling badly at PMQs, blaming everyone else 🙄. He is being destroyed by opposition, whilst his own party discussion is e-bikes and school breakfasts." Don't worry. They will soon get around to freezing rail fares.  | |||
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"Starmer struggling badly at PMQs, blaming everyone else 🙄. He is being destroyed by opposition, whilst his own party discussion is e-bikes and school breakfasts. Fingers crossed it brings the weasel down. He appointed mortgage fraudster Mandelson. Apparently he was also tipped off before Epstein but did nothing, more interested in prosecuting veterans and defending Reeves dodgy CV " Give Starmer 48 Hours before he resigns. And then who could replace him? | |||
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"Starmer struggling badly at PMQs, blaming everyone else 🙄. He is being destroyed by opposition, whilst his own party discussion is e-bikes and school breakfasts. Fingers crossed it brings the weasel down. He appointed mortgage fraudster Mandelson. Apparently he was also tipped off before Epstein but did nothing, more interested in prosecuting veterans and defending Reeves dodgy CV Give Starmer 48 Hours before he resigns. And then who could replace him?" Rayner gathering the troops...God help us! | |||
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"Keir Starmer promised to "restore honesty and integrity to government.” But that, just like everything else he promises, was nothing more than a deception. Keir Starmer needs to go asap. " Labour need to go ASAP,just removing Starmer will be akin to moving the deckchairs on the Titanic. | |||
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"In the Commons debate, Your Party MP Zarah Sultana says Peter Mandelson was “besties with a convicted nonce” and criticises the way he was “rehabilitated” and brought back into the fold by Labour leader Keir Starmer." She's not wrong. | |||
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"Like I said when Labour got elected, give them enough rope and they'll hang themselves. It's like 1978 again with Callaghan. " There are similarities but in some ways Starmer is worse. Like Starmer Callaghan wasn't up to the job and circumstances got the better of him. His reputation for competence was trashed but he did leave with his integrity intact. Starmer has lied and lied and lied again and has no integrity at all. | |||
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"Starmer struggling badly at PMQs, blaming everyone else 🙄. He is being destroyed by opposition, whilst his own party discussion is e-bikes and school breakfasts. Fingers crossed it brings the weasel down. He appointed mortgage fraudster Mandelson. Apparently he was also tipped off before Epstein but did nothing, more interested in prosecuting veterans and defending Reeves dodgy CV Give Starmer 48 Hours before he resigns. And then who could replace him? Rayner gathering the troops...God help us!" NO, NO, NO. Angela Rayner is possibly the most incompetent in Labour government, zero qualifications, zero education and sad to say; as thick as mince. There's no way Angela Rayner would be taken seriously by any World leader, even the average person on the street knows her reputation. | |||
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" Whilst everyone is so embroiled in the Mandelson/Starmer case Russia continues to attack civilians in Ukraine, knocking out all power supplies in minus 20 degrees. We should be talking about people dieing right now but ofcourse this isn't popular with media. I will leave you all to debate the "popular" chat of today "fuck ukraine and all the piliticians who are wasting our taxes on a country that is only just behind russia for corruption, i bet they wish they hadnt listend to sleepy joe and boris the bellend | |||
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" Whilst everyone is so embroiled in the Mandelson/Starmer case Russia continues to attack civilians in Ukraine, knocking out all power supplies in minus 20 degrees. We should be talking about people dieing right now but ofcourse this isn't popular with media. I will leave you all to debate the "popular" chat of today "There are people dieing in loads of places daily. Iran, suddan, palistine. The world is a dangerous place. Quite a strange post to try and shame people about talking about current issues in the UK. | |||
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" Whilst everyone is so embroiled in the Mandelson/Starmer case Russia continues to attack civilians in Ukraine, knocking out all power supplies in minus 20 degrees. We should be talking about people dieing right now but ofcourse this isn't popular with media. I will leave you all to debate the "popular" chat of today "In the time it took you to type it children and babies died from a lack of clean water and not having access to affordable medicines .. Day in day out.. | |||
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" Whilst everyone is so embroiled in the Mandelson/Starmer case Russia continues to attack civilians in Ukraine, knocking out all power supplies in minus 20 degrees. We should be talking about people dieing right now but ofcourse this isn't popular with media. I will leave you all to debate the "popular" chat of today
In the time it took you to type it children and babies died from a lack of clean water and not having access to affordable medicines ..
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" Whilst everyone is so embroiled in the Mandelson/Starmer case Russia continues to attack civilians in Ukraine, knocking out all power supplies in minus 20 degrees. We should be talking about people dieing right now but ofcourse this isn't popular with media. I will leave you all to debate the "popular" chat of today
There are people dieing in loads of places daily. Iran, suddan, palistine. The world is a dangerous place.
Quite a strange post to try and shame people about talking about current issues in the UK."So you don't give a dam, interesting | |||
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" Whilst everyone is so embroiled in the Mandelson/Starmer case Russia continues to attack civilians in Ukraine, knocking out all power supplies in minus 20 degrees. We should be talking about people dieing right now but ofcourse this isn't popular with media. I will leave you all to debate the "popular" chat of today fuck ukraine and all the piliticians who are wasting our taxes on a country that is only just behind russia for corruption, i bet they wish they hadnt listend to sleepy joe and boris the bellend"Would love to see you say that to the face of a Ukrainian woman, never mind a war hardened Ukrainian male, I doubt you would say the same face to face with them  | |||
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" Whilst everyone is so embroiled in the Mandelson/Starmer case Russia continues to attack civilians in Ukraine, knocking out all power supplies in minus 20 degrees. We should be talking about people dieing right now but ofcourse this isn't popular with media. I will leave you all to debate the "popular" chat of today
In the time it took you to type it children and babies died from a lack of clean water and not having access to affordable medicines ..
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Nice to see you don't give a dam "Its damn, but dont assume your right.. I know there are others much less fortunate but I dont feel the need to decend to the level where using others misfortune and current predicament to vaguely score a political point (and failed miserably) is an acceptable thing.. Its not.. | |||
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" Whilst everyone is so embroiled in the Mandelson/Starmer case Russia continues to attack civilians in Ukraine, knocking out all power supplies in minus 20 degrees. We should be talking about people dieing right now but ofcourse this isn't popular with media. I will leave you all to debate the "popular" chat of today
In the time it took you to type it children and babies died from a lack of clean water and not having access to affordable medicines ..
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Nice to see you don't give a dam
Its damn, but dont assume your right..
I know there are others much less fortunate but I dont feel the need to decend to the level where using others misfortune and current predicament to vaguely score a political point (and failed miserably) is an acceptable thing..
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" Whilst everyone is so embroiled in the Mandelson/Starmer case Russia continues to attack civilians in Ukraine, knocking out all power supplies in minus 20 degrees. We should be talking about people dieing right now but ofcourse this isn't popular with media. I will leave you all to debate the "popular" chat of today "What’s popular for one is unpopular with another. It’s interesting that you choose Ukraine yet I believe more people have been murdered in Iran by their own government in the past month or so, than have died in over two years of war in Ukraine. Both are terrible of course but one is far from “popular” with certain groups and media outlets | |||
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" Whilst everyone is so embroiled in the Mandelson/Starmer case Russia continues to attack civilians in Ukraine, knocking out all power supplies in minus 20 degrees. We should be talking about people dieing right now but ofcourse this isn't popular with media. I will leave you all to debate the "popular" chat of today fuck ukraine and all the piliticians who are wasting our taxes on a country that is only just behind russia for corruption, i bet they wish they hadnt listend to sleepy joe and boris the bellend
Would love to see you say that to the face of a Ukrainian woman, never mind a war hardened Ukrainian male, I doubt you would say the same face to face with them"I will say it to anyone who listens,I give about as much of a fuck about Ukraine and Russia as I do about gaza and Israel let them all wipe each other out and do it without any financial or military support from us,and is it untrue that Ukraine are only slightly behind Russia in levels of corruption? Like I said what a bunch of mugs believing what biden and Boris were telling them,I bet you also buy into only 55,000 Ukrainians being killed so far in this war,by all meas if you wana give your money to a dead horse you crack on personaly I don't want any taxes I pay going outside of this country the rest of the world can go fuck themselves | |||
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"How Mandelson hasn't been arrested is beyond me. Reasonable suspicion an offence has been committed, yet no arrest, no bail conditions to protect the investigation....much as I hate to use a tired slogan, it appears like two tier policing. Misconduct in Public Office is a very serious offence punishable with up to life imprisonment. Yet, it's a nice early afternoon door knock and kid gloves for Mandelson." Not only that, it has taken days... Anything incriminating he has had a long time to shred paperwork and delete hard drives. | |||
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"How Mandelson hasn't been arrested is beyond me. Reasonable suspicion an offence has been committed, yet no arrest, no bail conditions to protect the investigation....much as I hate to use a tired slogan, it appears like two tier policing. Misconduct in Public Office is a very serious offence punishable with up to life imprisonment. Yet, it's a nice early afternoon door knock and kid gloves for Mandelson. Not only that, it has taken days... Anything incriminating he has had a long time to shred paperwork and delete hard drives." I woukd think anything iffy is long gone.. | |||
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"How Mandelson hasn't been arrested is beyond me. Reasonable suspicion an offence has been committed, yet no arrest, no bail conditions to protect the investigation....much as I hate to use a tired slogan, it appears like two tier policing. Misconduct in Public Office is a very serious offence punishable with up to life imprisonment. Yet, it's a nice early afternoon door knock and kid gloves for Mandelson. Not only that, it has taken days... Anything incriminating he has had a long time to shred paperwork and delete hard drives." I suspect for this reason it may be hard to bring a successful prosecution. | |||
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"Just resigned from the Labour Party. Should now lose his title. Beyond incredible that Starmer made him Ambassador to US - another hammer blow to Sir Kier and Labour." I see it as logic since your boy tromp is a pedo, also your boy mosk is another pedo. It makes total sense to put a pedo as "us" ambassador since they all share something (pedo) in common. | |||
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"Just resigned from the Labour Party. Should now lose his title. Beyond incredible that Starmer made him Ambassador to US - another hammer blow to Sir Kier and Labour. I see it as logic since your boy tromp is a pedo, also your boy mosk is another pedo. It makes total sense to put a pedo as "us" ambassador since they all share something (pedo) in common." I believe there is another thread for Trump conspiracy theories. | |||
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"How Mandelson hasn't been arrested is beyond me. Reasonable suspicion an offence has been committed, yet no arrest, no bail conditions to protect the investigation....much as I hate to use a tired slogan, it appears like two tier policing. Misconduct in Public Office is a very serious offence punishable with up to life imprisonment. Yet, it's a nice early afternoon door knock and kid gloves for Mandelson. Not only that, it has taken days... Anything incriminating he has had a long time to shred paperwork and delete hard drives. I suspect for this reason it may be hard to bring a successful prosecution." Trump or Mendelssohn? | |||
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"How Mandelson hasn't been arrested is beyond me. Reasonable suspicion an offence has been committed, yet no arrest, no bail conditions to protect the investigation....much as I hate to use a tired slogan, it appears like two tier policing. Misconduct in Public Office is a very serious offence punishable with up to life imprisonment. Yet, it's a nice early afternoon door knock and kid gloves for Mandelson." Yes, you'd think they'd want to question him ASAP.🤷 | |||
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"How Mandelson hasn't been arrested is beyond me. Reasonable suspicion an offence has been committed, yet no arrest, no bail conditions to protect the investigation....much as I hate to use a tired slogan, it appears like two tier policing. Misconduct in Public Office is a very serious offence punishable with up to life imprisonment. Yet, it's a nice early afternoon door knock and kid gloves for Mandelson. Not only that, it has taken days... Anything incriminating he has had a long time to shred paperwork and delete hard drives. I woukd think anything iffy is long gone.." Agreed | |||
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"Just resigned from the Labour Party. Should now lose his title. Beyond incredible that Starmer made him Ambassador to US - another hammer blow to Sir Kier and Labour. I see it as logic since your boy tromp is a pedo, also your boy mosk is another pedo. It makes total sense to put a pedo as "us" ambassador since they all share something (pedo) in common." you would make a better argument if you actually spelt there names correctley | |||
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"Times reporting that Mandelson got pay off of tens of thousands when he left Ambassador's job, even though Starmer claim he lied to get the position." Today the foreign office minister interviewed says he should give the £40k pay off to charity. Mandelson is likely to need this to pay for up and coming legal representation. All those box’s of documents the police and financial conduct authority are wading through must have more incriminating evidence. | |||
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"Times reporting that Mandelson got pay off of tens of thousands when he left Ambassador's job, even though Starmer claim he lied to get the position. Today the foreign office minister interviewed says he should give the £40k pay off to charity. Mandelson is likely to need this to pay for up and coming legal representation. All those box’s of documents the police and financial conduct authority are wading through must have more incriminating evidence. " I doubt Mandy has given to charity in his life ! | |||
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"...someone who’d done cyber security and worked for the police in their forensic lab. I asked him what people can do to prevent stuff being found on a phone or computer and he said “burn it, anything else can be recovered” " This is definitely true for regular use of SSDs. Less so for the older magnetic ones, or using TRIM effectively. | |||
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"His protege has gone, must be more dirt on the way." Likely, bbc reporting Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor also appears to have knowingly shared confidential information with Jeffrey Epstein from his official work as trade envoy in 2010 and 2011, according to material in the latest release of files in the US (seen by the BBC) | |||
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