FabSwingers.com forum: Andy Burnham PM ?

By (user no longer on site) OP
15 weeks ago

Stories that he's going to stand as an MP in by election with view, presumably, to challenging Sir Keir for leadership this year.

Any opinion or experience of him ? I'm not sure he's as well known or popular as he seems to believe.

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By *rDiscretionXXXMan
15 weeks ago

Gilfach

This could be a pivotal moment in politics. Burnham has a lot of support, but Starmer's minions will do everything they can to smear Burnham. Reform will be campaigning as hard as possible. The Tories will probably just sit back and watch. That splits the Labour vote, and leaves Reform as the obvious protest vote.

If Reform win, Burnham will have given up his job for nothing, Starmer will be in a position where his party have lost a safe seat, and Reform will gain a lot of legitimacy and press coverage.

It should be an interesting few weeks coming up.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
15 weeks ago

"This could be a pivotal moment in politics. Burnham has a lot of support, but Starmer's minions will do everything they can to smear Burnham. Reform will be campaigning as hard as possible. The Tories will probably just sit back and watch. That splits the Labour vote, and leaves Reform as the obvious protest vote.

If Reform win, Burnham will have given up his job for nothing, Starmer will be in a position where his party have lost a safe seat, and Reform will gain a lot of legitimacy and press coverage.

It should be an interesting few weeks coming up.

I read Burnham doesn't have to give up being Mayor to stand as an MP although its hardly a vote of confidence if he doesn't. There's definitely no such thing as a safe Labour seat at the moment.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
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15 weeks ago

Central

He's someone that I respect and I believe that he's got a lot of potential support. He'd probably want to change the party and strategy and it would probably be for the better.

But it's a big ask for him, as he's very loyal to his local citizens. I think he's got a lot out of not being in London. We don't deserve him taking huge risks, potentially not to gain but to lose everything.

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By *ony 2016Man
15 weeks ago

lincs /Hudd & Derby cinema

Electoral Calculous are currently predicting a 3 horse race in the constituency at the moment with Green just Infront of Labour, reform in 3rd not too far behind , I think if Burnham did stand it could make some intending to vote Green move to Labour

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By *9alMan
15 weeks ago

Bridgend

"Electoral Calculous are currently predicting a 3 horse race in the constituency at the moment with Green just Infront of Labour, reform in 3rd not too far behind , I think if Burnham did stand it could make some intending to vote Green move to Labour "

if the NEC stop Andy B standing & then lose the seat with an unknown candidate it could be more damaging to the party than letting him run

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By *ony 2016Man
15 weeks ago

lincs /Hudd & Derby cinema

if the NEC stop Andy B standing & then lose the seat with an unknown candidate it could be more damaging to the party than letting him run "

My initial 'guess' is that if Burnham stand the Green vote will shift towards Labour , , if Burnham doesn't stand the Labour vote will shift towards Green ,,

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By *otMe66Man
15 weeks ago

Terra Firma

He ticks the left wing boxes of wealth distribution and aspiring to socialist values, which I believe is reasonable at a locally elected level, but doomed to fail on a national level.

If the left wing move to take control of labour, they are going to hand back control to the conservatives (hung or not) at the next election.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
15 weeks ago

in Lancashire

if the NEC stop Andy B standing & then lose the seat with an unknown candidate it could be more damaging to the party than letting him run "

This, the optics etc ..

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By *ingdomNightTimePleasuresMan
15 weeks ago

nearby

Today’s headlines

Starmer’s allies launch ‘Stop Andy Burnham’ campaign to block parliamentary return

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By *ellhungvweMan
15 weeks ago

Cheltenham

It would appear that Labour have learnt nothing for the internecine warfare that destroyed the Tories. Repeatedly replacing prime minsters destroys any credibility. If you can’t select the right one in the first place then why does anyone think they should trust your choice next time round?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
15 weeks ago

in Lancashire

"Today’s headlines

Starmer’s allies launch ‘Stop Andy Burnham’ campaign to block parliamentary return"

In other words, politics..

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By *exy_HornyCouple
15 weeks ago

Leigh

"It would appear that Labour have learnt nothing for the internecine warfare that destroyed the Tories. Repeatedly replacing prime minsters destroys any credibility. If you can’t select the right one in the first place then why does anyone think they should trust your choice next time round?"

The problem is that the quality of MPs is generally poor so the choice is usually between bad and worse.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
15 weeks ago

If Burnham does stand I think Reform would be well advised not to fight too hard in the seat. They will be the main beneficiaries of a Labour Civil War.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
15 weeks ago

Zack Polanski not currently an MP, he could well stand for the Greens.

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By *otMe66Man
15 weeks ago

Terra Firma

The problem I see with the labour party is the levels of of socialism it has within the party, the harder left they go the less likely to be accepted by the public. I anticipated a push by the hard left once the suit which is Starmer got the labour party into power. Trojan horse is the only way they can gain power, and will do all they can to topple this government for their own interests.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
15 weeks ago

If Starmer does get challenged I see four candidates: Burnham, Rayner, Streeting and Mad Milliband.

Streeting is the most able but I'm not sure he is that popular, probably too able ! Surely even Labour aren't suicidal enough to bring back Millivolt so I predict Rayner v Burnham.

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By *ony 2016Man
15 weeks ago

lincs /Hudd & Derby cinema

"Zack Polanski not currently an MP, he could well stand for the Greens."

That's a good shout

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By *CExeCouple
15 weeks ago

Hong-Kong/Exeter

A friend of mine has known him since they were kids and says he's a great guy. I've never met him but I'm not a fan. Methinks 2026 will be a year of Labour and Tory infighting.

Would love to see the tit whisperer, aka Zack from the Greens run. Having him in the HoC spouting his nonsense might open a few folks' eyes to just how demented he really is.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
15 weeks ago

in Lancashire

" A friend of mine has known him since they were kids and says he's a great guy. I've never met him but I'm not a fan. Methinks 2026 will be a year of Labour and Tory infighting.

Would love to see the tit whisperer, aka Zack from the Greens run. Having him in the HoC spouting his nonsense might open a few folks' eyes to just how demented he really is."

Every year theres been a parliament theres been infighting, not only verbal lol..

The guy from the greens has some strange ideas, especially on defence..

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By *ingdomNightTimePleasuresMan
15 weeks ago

nearby

Hopefully he goes for it, shouldn’t be too much bother on leadership with Starmer on 13% approval.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
15 weeks ago

"Hopefully he goes for it, shouldn’t be too much bother on leadership with Starmer on 13% approval. "

Why would you do it ? Two years as PM then an historic defeat. Better to stay as King of Manchester with all those kick backs, sorry commercial arrangement.🤣🤣

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By *ostindreamsMan
15 weeks ago

London

Would love to see the tit whisperer, aka Zack from the Greens run. Having him in the HoC spouting his nonsense might open a few folks' eyes to just how demented he really is."

The statements he has already made about nuclear energy and nuclear weapons must be good enough to see the kind of clown that he is. But that didn't stop some labour voters to shift to his side.

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By *ookingFor.....Man
15 weeks ago

Horsham/Crawley

I’d do him.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
15 weeks ago

Odds on next Labour leader, Streeting 9/2, Rayner and Burnham 6-1.

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By *ellhungvweMan
15 weeks ago

Cheltenham

"Odds on next Labour leader, Streeting 9/2, Rayner and Burnham 6-1."

Streeting is the one that I think the wider country would be most likely to vote for because he is closest to the centre. I would assume he was the one least likely to get the party votes because he is closest to the centre.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
15 weeks ago

"Odds on next Labour leader, Streeting 9/2, Rayner and Burnham 6-1.

Yes, agree 100%. Bit like when they chose Ed Milliband over his brother.

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By *otMe66Man
15 weeks ago

Terra Firma

"Odds on next Labour leader, Streeting 9/2, Rayner and Burnham 6-1.

Agreed, i think Streeting would make a wonderful conservative MP too.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
15 weeks ago

"Odds on next Labour leader, Streeting 9/2, Rayner and Burnham 6-1.

Agreed, i think Streeting would make a wonderful conservative MP too."

Then Reform afterwards

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By *otMe66Man
15 weeks ago

Terra Firma

"Odds on next Labour leader, Streeting 9/2, Rayner and Burnham 6-1.

Agreed, i think Streeting would make a wonderful conservative MP too.

Then Reform afterwards

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By (user no longer on site) OP
15 weeks ago

Angela Raynor supporting Burnham standing lol, of course because he'd split the centre vote. Meanwhile reports Starmer will use an all BAME shortlist to stop Burnham standing.🤣🤣🤣

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By *ingdomNightTimePleasuresMan
15 weeks ago

nearby

Andy Burnham has announced that he is seeking permission to stand in the upcoming Gorton and Denton parliamentary by-election.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
15 weeks ago

"Andy Burnham has announced that he is seeking permission to stand in the upcoming Gorton and Denton parliamentary by-election."

If Burnham was elected as an MP there would have to be new elections for Manchester Mayor, less than 2 years after last ones. Approx cost £5m !

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By *otMe66Man
15 weeks ago

Terra Firma

He has just sealed the fate of the labour party for the next 13 years maybe more..

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By (user no longer on site) OP
15 weeks ago

"He has just sealed the fate of the labour party for the next 13 years maybe more..

I suspect this will be the last ever Labour Govt.

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By *otMe66Man
15 weeks ago

Terra Firma

"He has just sealed the fate of the labour party for the next 13 years maybe more..

I suspect this will be the last ever Labour Govt."

It could be a good thing. Hard left labour MP's masquerade under the banner of labour, if the labour party splits allowing centre left to be a real thing it could work in their favour.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
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15 weeks ago

Central

Announcing intentions is a long way from being elected

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By *ingdomNightTimePleasuresMan
14 weeks ago

nearby

Andy Burnham blocked from byelection race by Labour ruling committee

Decision likely to set off ferocious row between Keir Starmer loyalists and allies of Greater Manchester mayor says the guardian.

This is Labour democracy. Enemy of the state more like

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By *e-OptimistMan
14 weeks ago

Stalybridge

Not a real surprise. Starmers future looks more dodgy than ever.

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By *uriousCouple20224Couple
14 weeks ago

nottingham

That seat is much more likely to go to reform now. What a crazy act of self harm from Starmer.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
14 weeks ago

"Andy Burnham blocked from byelection race by Labour ruling committee

Decision likely to set off ferocious row between Keir Starmer loyalists and allies of Greater Manchester mayor says the guardian.

This is Labour democracy. Enemy of the state more like "

Wow !

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By *otlovefun42Couple
14 weeks ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

"Andy Burnham blocked from byelection race by Labour ruling committee

Decision likely to set off ferocious row between Keir Starmer loyalists and allies of Greater Manchester mayor says the guardian.

This is Labour democracy. Enemy of the state more like

Wow ! "

Yes it really is a WOW! moment.

I really didn't think he would duck this one, it's Labour self harming on a biblical scale.

The only thing it shows is that Starmer is scared shitless of any kind of opposing vote. Whether that be the electorate in 30 local councils or his own party.

Kemi will have a field day with this one come Wednesday.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
14 weeks ago

"Andy Burnham blocked from byelection race by Labour ruling committee

Decision likely to set off ferocious row between Keir Starmer loyalists and allies of Greater Manchester mayor says the guardian.

This is Labour democracy. Enemy of the state more like

Wow !

Yes it really is a WOW! moment.

I really didn't think he would duck this one, it's Labour self harming on a biblical scale.

The only thing it shows is that Starmer is scared shitless of any kind of opposing vote. Whether that be the electorate in 30 local councils or his own party.

Kemi will have a field day with this one come Wednesday."

To be fair to Starmer the Labour rules do say Mayors should not stand down to contest Parliamentary seats, which is why they need NEC permission to do so, and Burnham said 2 years ago that he'd serve a full term.

But it does look like a tactical mistake and another sign of weakness from Sir Kier. Its very difficult to see him surviving 2026 as PM.

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By *e-OptimistMan
14 weeks ago

Stalybridge

8 to 1 vote against Burnham - Starmer voted no. What a bunch of spineless self serving drones.

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By *ony 2016Man
14 weeks ago

lincs /Hudd & Derby cinema

"That seat is much more likely to go to reform now. What a crazy act of self harm from Starmer."

Not really sure about that , the latest poll I saw for The Seat had Green slightly Infront of Labour and reform , so this could lead to some intending to vote Labour switching to Green , especially if as suggested by someone earlier in the thread that Polanski may decide to stand , something he is now probably more likely to do now that Burnham won't be contesting the seat

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By *otMe66Man
14 weeks ago

Terra Firma

"8 to 1 vote against Burnham - Starmer voted no. What a bunch of spineless self serving drones."

I think it was the correct decision from a party perspective. There is no doubt he would have split the party and infighting would have destroyed them.

I also think it is the one decision Starmer wont u-turn on either

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By *esYesOMGYes!Man
14 weeks ago

Didsbury

"I’d do him."

I suspect you’d have a better chance with Starmer, though you might be too old for him.

Can you do an Eastern European accent, that might help?

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By *abioMan
14 weeks ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

I would have preferred the local party make the decision rather than the executive… it’s a bad look

Being really blunt… and cold and calculating.. is the risk of losing 1 seat (either to the greens or reform) when you have a 300 seat majority greater than losing the number 2 mayoral position (after London)

Probably not..

It will be interesting to see if the greens can beat reform.. zac Polanski in that seat would be interesting

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By *e-OptimistMan
14 weeks ago

Stalybridge

The Greens might have a chance if the turnout is higher than usual. Probably be a closer race between traditional Labour and the disgruntled Reform voters.

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By *rofessor-MarcusMan
14 weeks ago

Chorley

NEWS FLASH-Labour NEC votes to retain Joe Bidden as PM. Nigel Farage seen with tape measure and swatches of curtain fabric outside Ten Downing Street.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
14 weeks ago

in Lancashire

Saving money innit..

Tbh I'm not surprised at all, not a good optic but Starmer etc possibly looking at the damage limitations of having Burnham sat close behind him for the next three years and wondering when the knife will be wielded..

In the short term they'll do what PMs always do in such things, ride it out and wait for events to move the spotlight to..

I like Andy, met him the once but he will Biden his time i reckon and he probably knew how the NEC would vote and is using this as a bit of a PR move..

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By (user no longer on site) OP
14 weeks ago

Of course Burnham could still stand as an independent.

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By *otandDashCouple
14 weeks ago

farnham

No Thanks , Failed last time he ran for Labour leader to his brother ...

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By *ellhungvweMan
14 weeks ago

Cheltenham

I think Labour were screwed whatever decision they took. Deny him the chance and they look like they are running scared. Give him the chance and then they are open to serious questions about how they can just jettison the Manchester mayoralty and commit to spending more money on an election when they are allowing other councils to avoid them.

Personally I think it reflects poorly on Burnham. He gave his word about staying the course on the mayoral position and then wants to jump at the first chance. Basically he just has stuck two fingers up to Manchester.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
14 weeks ago

"I think Labour were screwed whatever decision they took. Deny him the chance and they look like they are running scared. Give him the chance and then they are open to serious questions about how they can just jettison the Manchester mayoralty and commit to spending more money on an election when they are allowing other councils to avoid them.

Very fair assessment.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
14 weeks ago

"Saving money innit..

In the short term they'll do what PMs always do in such things, ride it out and wait for events to move the spotlight to..

I like Andy, met him the once but he will Biden his time i reckon and he probably knew how the NEC would vote and is using this as a bit of a PR move..

If Biden stood that really would be a WOW moment!

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
14 weeks ago

in Lancashire

"Saving money innit..

In the short term they'll do what PMs always do in such things, ride it out and wait for events to move the spotlight to..

I like Andy, met him the once but he will Biden his time i reckon and he probably knew how the NEC would vote and is using this as a bit of a PR move..

If Biden stood that really would be a WOW moment!

Oops

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By *ydaz70Man
14 weeks ago

Rotherham /newquay

Very fair assessment."
does he after give up being mayor I've not seen anything yet that says he couldn't do both.

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By *wosmilersCouple
14 weeks ago

Heathrowish

I think it's within this week's Labour Party rules that states that he cannot simultaneously hold the role of Mayor and MP. However, tomorrow's another day.

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By *ydaz70Man
14 weeks ago

Rotherham /newquay

"I think it's within this week's Labour Party rules that states that he cannot simultaneously hold the role of Mayor and MP. However, tomorrow's another day. "
thanks for clearing that up now makes sense

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By *ellhungvweMan
14 weeks ago

Cheltenham

Very fair assessment.does he after give up being mayor I've not seen anything yet that says he couldn't do both."

I was under the impression that being an MP or a Mayor of a major city were full time jobs. Certainly many MPs complain about the workload so it is difficult to see how either would get the attention needed if someone were to do both.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
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14 weeks ago

Central

It's disappointing to see that they have done this. But they are seem intent on keeping the status quo, even if it's not ideal

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By (user no longer on site) OP
14 weeks ago

Maybe Burnham knew all along he'd fail to be selected ? He's damaged Starmer while keeping his safe job in Manchester, and young enough to try again for the leadership in 2028 or 2029.

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By *eroy1000Man
14 weeks ago

milton keynes

"Maybe Burnham knew all along he'd fail to be selected ? He's damaged Starmer while keeping his safe job in Manchester, and young enough to try again for the leadership in 2028 or 2029."

That's true enough and a reasonable calculation given costs is one of the reasons local elections are being cancelled. A mayor election would not be cheap so maybe he expected to be refused, as you say. I don't think he has got away Scott free though as others will point to his promises to serve a full term as the mayor. Starmers problem will be if the greens or others now win the by election as once again it will be bad optics

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
14 weeks ago

in Lancashire

A question especially a rhetorical one has several different intentions.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
14 weeks ago

"Maybe Burnham knew all along he'd fail to be selected ? He's damaged Starmer while keeping his safe job in Manchester, and young enough to try again for the leadership in 2028 or 2029.

Unfortunately Starmer has got himself in a position where almost everything he does turns out badly. It must be exhausting for him on a personal level, he just has no talent for leadership.

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By *otMe66Man
14 weeks ago

Terra Firma

"Maybe Burnham knew all along he'd fail to be selected ? He's damaged Starmer while keeping his safe job in Manchester, and young enough to try again for the leadership in 2028 or 2029.

Unfortunately Starmer has got himself in a position where almost everything he does turns out badly. It must be exhausting for him on a personal level, he just has no talent for leadership."

Starmer aspires to socialism and with that comes committee and the committee is loaded against him.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
14 weeks ago

"Maybe Burnham knew all along he'd fail to be selected ? He's damaged Starmer while keeping his safe job in Manchester, and young enough to try again for the leadership in 2028 or 2029.

Unfortunately Starmer has got himself in a position where almost everything he does turns out badly. It must be exhausting for him on a personal level, he just has no talent for leadership.

Starmer aspires to socialism and with that comes committee and the committee is loaded against him."

Very good point!

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By *e-OptimistMan
14 weeks ago

Stalybridge

"Maybe Burnham knew all along he'd fail to be selected ? He's damaged Starmer while keeping his safe job in Manchester, and young enough to try again for the leadership in 2028 or 2029.

Unfortunately Starmer has got himself in a position where almost everything he does turns out badly. It must be exhausting for him on a personal level, he just has no talent for leadership."

I wouldn't trust him to run a bath!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
14 weeks ago

Polanski says he won't stand.

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By *ingdomNightTimePleasuresMan
14 weeks ago

nearby

Only 14 weeks

Senedd election

Scottish Parliament election

Local government elections in England

Local authority mayoral elections

Starmer must be shitting himself, he won’t be able to blame these outcomes on war in Ukraine, the tories or anything else.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
14 weeks ago

Burnham on X: 'The fact that the media was informed of the NEC decision before I was tells you everything you need to know about the way the Labour Party is being run these days. You would think that over 30 years of service would count for something but sadly not.' 🍿 🍿 🍿

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
14 weeks ago

in Lancashire

"Burnham on X: 'The fact that the media was informed of the NEC decision before I was tells you everything you need to know about the way the Labour Party is being run these days. You would think that over 30 years of service would count for something but sadly not.' 🍿 🍿 🍿

Clearly he's frustrated but its at odds with his earlier comment about wanting to do what's best for the party or however it was worded..

And there'll be a few and some of his supporters who will raise an eyebrow, the NEC will be thinking they made the right decision..

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By (user no longer on site) OP
14 weeks ago

Clearly he's frustrated but its at odds with his earlier comment about wanting to do what's best for the party or however it was worded..

And there'll be a few and some of his supporters who will raise an eyebrow, the NEC will be thinking they made the right decision..

Possibly, but Starmer has now made another powerful enemy. Raynor, Burnham, Mandelsohn, Streeting all against him with plenty of allies. He is absolutely doomed as PM.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
14 weeks ago

in Lancashire

Clearly he's frustrated but its at odds with his earlier comment about wanting to do what's best for the party or however it was worded..

And there'll be a few and some of his supporters who will raise an eyebrow, the NEC will be thinking they made the right decision..

Possibly, but Starmer has now made another powerful enemy. Raynor, Burnham, Mandelsohn, Streeting all against him with plenty of allies. He is absolutely doomed as PM."

My dear chap..

The history of the left is writ large with factions and groups of 'we think so and so is better', and unsurprisingly that's also extremely common in all such parties as we've seen during the tories last few years..

None of it is new..

Mandhelson is in contrast to the others a more Machiavellian old school fixer bitbhes tainted badly post Epstein..

Some on here said he would be gone in a year as the left would take over..

I think if he goes it'll be after the next GE if it goes badly wrong but not before..

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By (user no longer on site) OP
14 weeks ago

Clearly he's frustrated but its at odds with his earlier comment about wanting to do what's best for the party or however it was worded..

And there'll be a few and some of his supporters who will raise an eyebrow, the NEC will be thinking they made the right decision..

Possibly, but Starmer has now made another powerful enemy. Raynor, Burnham, Mandelsohn, Streeting all against him with plenty of allies. He is absolutely doomed as PM.

My dear chap..

None of it is new..

Mandhelson is in contrast to the others a more Machiavellian old school fixer bitbhes tainted badly post Epstein..

Some on here said he would be gone in a year as the left would take over..

I think if he goes it'll be after the next GE if it goes badly wrong but not before..

I honestly think there's more chance of seeing you and Fabio in MAGA baseball caps than Starmer lasting the year as PM ! 🤣

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By *otandDashCouple
14 weeks ago

farnham

Labour and Tories are both playing into Reforms hands , It's quite sad really how fast and far the the previous two main party's have fallen .

Unless something changes drastically Reform will just breeze in at the next GE ..

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By (user no longer on site)
14 weeks ago

It was a lose - lose - lose for Starmer.

Option 1.

Let him stand but he doesn’t win the seat, Reform do. Embarrassing but this was the right choice for the Labour Party as whole but not so much for Starmer

Option 2

Let him stand and he wins the by election and triggers a leadership challenge. Best thing for the country but worst thing for Starmer

Option 3.

Block him and make him even more of an enemy but at least he’s not in a position to harm me. This is the worst thing for the party but the best thing for Starmer.

No surprise he picked what was best for him, not party or country.

So what now? Will he stand as an independent? This would obviously split the Labour vote and hand the seat to Reform. Andy will know this so if he stands he is also clearly a selfish twat who cares nothing for the Labour Party as a whole, despite expressing an interest to be its leader.

No matter what happened, it was all but impossible for Starmer to win. I believe Starmer and his cronies think that effectively handing the seat to Reform is the best possible outcome. Blame it all on Burnham, no real change in parliament, steadies the ship regarding consolidating his leadership, till the local elections at least (assuming they don’t all get cancelled).

Let’s see. Either way I believe so much damage has been done, this could well be the last ever Labour government and the left leaning voters will look elsewhere for someone else to destroy the country.

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By *ingdomNightTimePleasuresMan
14 weeks ago

nearby

Around 50 Labour MPs have signed a letter objecting to the decision to block Greater Manchester Mayor Andy Burnham from standing in a forthcoming parliamentary by-election (BBC)

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By (user no longer on site) OP
14 weeks ago

Rumours that Deputy Green Leader Mothin Ali will stand in a constituency with 30% Muslim population. If so expect a straight Green-Reform fight which will be pretty unpleasant.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
14 weeks ago

Academic and journalist Matt Goodwin to be Reform candidate in Gorton. Sharp guy with lots of media experience.

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By *eeGee101Man
14 weeks ago

Stockport

He's a prick of the highest order

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By (user no longer on site) OP
14 weeks ago

"He's a prick of the highest order"

Who ?

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By *eeGee101Man
14 weeks ago

Stockport

Matt Goodwin of course

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By (user no longer on site) OP
14 weeks ago

"Matt Goodwin of course"

Top bloke yes

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By *eeGee101Man
14 weeks ago

Stockport

On this we must respectfully disagree

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By (user no longer on site) OP
14 weeks ago

"On this we must respectfully disagree"

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By *ookingFor.....Man
14 weeks ago

Horsham/Crawley

"Odds on next Labour leader, Streeting 9/2, Rayner and Burnham 6-1.

Agreed, i think Streeting would make a wonderful conservative MP too."

A gay man who’s Christian with a husband… is the UK ready for him as their PM?

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By *ookingFor.....Man
14 weeks ago

Horsham/Crawley

"Matt Goodwin of course"

I’d do him.

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By *rman82Man
14 weeks ago

Manchester

"Stories that he's going to stand as an MP in by election with view, presumably, to challenging Sir Keir for leadership this year.

Any opinion or experience of him ? I'm not sure he's as well known or popular as he seems to believe."

Like Tony Blair on speed

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