FabSwingers.com forum: Prisoners being released early or into open prisons

By *eautyandthebeast86 OP Couple
17 weeks ago

Somewhere in Norfolk ask :)

What is the world coming to when someone who was meant to serve 20 years is getting put in an open prison just 6 years into their sentence and 4 years before their parole ! What are people’s thoughts on our pathetic justice system ?

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By *hief_Of_AlwaysMan
17 weeks ago

1313 Mockingbird Lane…

If it’s an issue of space, then I dunno why we can’t just build more prisons.

But what do I know?

If it was up to me?……PENAL COLONY 😄

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By *eautyandthebeast86 OP Couple
17 weeks ago

Somewhere in Norfolk ask :)

Yeah that’s what I thought why not build more prisons I know they cost money etc but surely it’s less of a deterrent for criminals if the know they can offend and get let off easy!

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By *onin25Man
17 weeks ago

Durham

It's underfunded like much of the public sector. But people want to pay less tax not more, and wanted us out of the EU so things like this are the compromises that have to be made to achieve those.

This should also probably be in the politics section where I wouldn't have seen it so wouldn't have commented.

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By *eautyandthebeast86 OP Couple
17 weeks ago

Somewhere in Norfolk ask :)

Oh whoops I never use that one so didn’t think , hope this won’t offend anyone then ? That wasn’t my intention

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By *onin25Man
17 weeks ago

Durham

"Oh whoops I never use that one so didn’t think , hope this won’t offend anyone then ? That wasn’t my intention "

Not offended, but I try to avoid stuff like this on here.

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By *eautyandthebeast86 OP Couple
17 weeks ago

Somewhere in Norfolk ask :)

Can I delete it then ? Just I value people’s option on here not just for sex but for all sorts of things as I feel the community we have here is great.

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By *estructionDollyWoman
17 weeks ago

Manchester

Most of the criminal justice system has been privitised and is falling apart. It's not fit for purpose in any way. Years of underfunding and systemic failures. Too much focus on putting people in prison with no hope when they get out, and no focus on rehabilitation, so ricidivism is high. It's a vicious cycle.

The whole thing needs scrapping and starting again. But it won't happen, so the cracks just get papered over.

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By *estructionDollyWoman
17 weeks ago

Manchester

"Can I delete it then ? Just I value people’s option on here not just for sex but for all sorts of things as I feel the community we have here is great. "

You can message a mod and ask them to move it.

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By *eautyandthebeast86 OP Couple
17 weeks ago

Somewhere in Norfolk ask :)

"Can I delete it then ? Just I value people’s option on here not just for sex but for all sorts of things as I feel the community we have here is great.

You can message a mod and ask them to move it. "
thanks I’ll do that I feel a bit stupid now but it wasn’t intended as anything but a topic of discussion

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By *lectrictouchMan
17 weeks ago

inverarary

Bring back the chain gangs get the the work done the councils can’t afford to do

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By *onin25Man
17 weeks ago

Durham

"Can I delete it then ? Just I value people’s option on here not just for sex but for all sorts of things as I feel the community we have here is great.

You can message a mod and ask them to move it. thanks I’ll do that I feel a bit stupid now but it wasn’t intended as anything but a topic of discussion "

no worries

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By *olo180Man
17 weeks ago

Greater London

"Yeah that’s what I thought why not build more prisons I know they cost money etc but surely it’s less of a deterrent for criminals if the know they can offend and get let off easy! "

Or controversially just clear space in the prisons by bumping off the child sex offenders. Less cost to the tax payers then

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By *eautyandthebeast86 OP Couple
17 weeks ago

Somewhere in Norfolk ask :)

"Yeah that’s what I thought why not build more prisons I know they cost money etc but surely it’s less of a deterrent for criminals if the know they can offend and get let off easy!

Or controversially just clear space in the prisons by bumping off the child sex offenders. Less cost to the tax payers then "

The person in question is a child sex offender !

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By *igCatHuntingMan
17 weeks ago

London

"Oh whoops I never use that one so didn’t think , hope this won’t offend anyone then ? That wasn’t my intention

Not offended, but I try to avoid stuff like this on here. "

Indeed. This is where I come for a bit of chilling out. If I wanted the sort of stuff found in the Politics blog on Fabs I could find most of it in the right-wing rags, but I'd have to wash my hands afterwards.

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By (user no longer on site)
17 weeks ago

"It's underfunded like much of the public sector. But people want to pay less tax not more, and wanted us out of the EU so things like this are the compromises that have to be made to achieve those.

This should also probably be in the politics section where I wouldn't have seen it so wouldn't have commented. "

I don’t get how every public service claims to be under funded yet tax burden is the highest it’s ever been.

The simple answer of course is governments keep coming up with new things to spend money on but never look at what to cut back on.

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By *eautyandthebeast86 OP Couple
17 weeks ago

Somewhere in Norfolk ask :)

"Oh whoops I never use that one so didn’t think , hope this won’t offend anyone then ? That wasn’t my intention

Not offended, but I try to avoid stuff like this on here.

Sorry I have contacted the site to get it moved it was a genuine mistake and also if you saw the heading you didn’t need to click on the actual post could have just ignored it but I do apologise

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By (user no longer on site)
17 weeks ago

Education and rehabilitation are so vital … however it does make a mockery of our penal system where, in America you can server over 200 years !

In my view it’s all about the offence

There is not prison cells = enough room , there is not enough staff etc

The conservatives had 14 years to go something … which they again failed at (like many things )

So much is drug related the Nordic countries tend to hold a different attitude towards this large section of the prison community

Chopping a hand off for shoplifting or steeling … there’s an idea ?

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By (user no longer on site)
17 weeks ago

For some offences, rehabilitation is definitely more important than punishment. But I think as offences get more serious, keeping people away from society as cheaply as possible is more important then attempting to rehabilitate.

As an example I don’t think child sex offenders can be rehabilitated, they just are that way and will probably never change. I’m sure there’s many more with the urges to do it but the moral compass to not act on the urges. I think if someone has done it and perhaps taken a while to get caught, they will just do it again.

Transport criminals to the Kagos islands and put all that rent money to good use

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By *007ManMan
17 weeks ago

Worthing

New prisons have to confirm with human rights red-tape. Hence not many new ones.

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By *sleWightCoupleCouple
17 weeks ago

Ryde

A friend of mine worked at a couple of the local prisons during a 10 year stint, and he said that the same activities went on regardless of category.

He worked at the maximum security prison and at open one. Whilst at the latter, one inmate was none-other than Jonathon King, the infamous media mogul and convicted k*dd*e-f*ddl*r. He managed to charm a good deal of the inmates through his experience with handling egos in the business, in spite of his crimes.

The thing which really pissed my friend off was that King would be all over any new 18-year-old inmates like flies on shit, and no prizes as to what eventually happened to most of them.

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By *arc PolarisMan
17 weeks ago

Birmingham

I actually don't mind this topic being in the lounge as it's good to have different topics.

I have heard many more prisons are scheduled to be built, it's the political stance that stops it.

Its a long road in my opinion that needs to start with education, respect, and community. Remove the need for vast amounts of prisons and you start to create a better society

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By *tlanshiaWoman
17 weeks ago

Chatham

One thing to understand is some people while they may be sentenced to 20 years, can be parolled from 15. Often done when space becomes an issue.

Prisons are being managed all the time, a young offenders near me recently shut and reopened as a adult male estate.

Lots go on in the background, finding new space for prisons to be built isn't easy. And ironically when you find out there is cell blocks within established prisons that are unused because they lack the funds to make them usesable, you realise there is no funds for new prisons.

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By *estivalMan
17 weeks ago

borehamwood

"Yeah that’s what I thought why not build more prisons I know they cost money etc but surely it’s less of a deterrent for criminals if the know they can offend and get let off easy! "
why not put them 3 to a cell like it was in the 70s and 80s,nick ain't sposed to be comftable,personally I'd make people serve every day of there sentence

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
17 weeks ago

Hastings

It dose take time to build a prison its not a quick job in the mean time there is just not the space.

The last fully new prison built in the UK was HMP Fosse Way in England, which began accepting prisoners in May 2023, part of a major government expansion program to add thousands of new places by 2030s, with construction starting on newer sites like HMP Welland Oaks in late 2025 and HMP Millsike in 2024 for later opening, with more new prisons and prison wings being opened or under construction as part of ongoing efforts to increase capacity, says the House of Commons Library and GOV.UK.

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
17 weeks ago

Hastings

"One thing to understand is some people while they may be sentenced to 20 years, can be parolled from 15. Often done when space becomes an issue.

Prisons are being managed all the time, a young offenders near me recently shut and reopened as a adult male estate.

Most that are not used due to the cost of refurbishment do not meet current standards, and are un safe for staff. Also lots are contaminated with asbestos and is so expensive to remove from with a prison its not viable.

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