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By *aldy321 OP   Man
23 weeks ago

Huddersfield

I have had a problem at work with a client telling me one of my staff has come out with racist comments and wants him sent off site. I asked what the comments were and they said “he has told people he is a Tomy Robinson supporter”. Whilst I detest Stephen Yaxley-Lennon I couldn’t see that by saying he was a supporter of the bell end that this could be classed as him being a racist.

On contacting our third part HR consultants they said that talking about being a supporter of a right wing extremist is racist and the fines are unlimited!

Happy days, my boss loves speaking about her support for Yaxley-Lennon / Robinson. With an unlimited fine a constructive dismissal case would be literally fab.

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By *crumdiddlyumptiousMan
23 weeks ago

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It would fall under harassment at work if he was using his love of Tommy Robinson in a way of abusing someone, Apart from that its all bollocks

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By *ctionSandwichCouple
23 weeks ago

Newcastle under Lyme


"On contacting our third part HR consultants they said that talking about being a supporter of a right wing extremist is racist and the fines are unlimited!"

We think your HR consultants are confusing a customer claiming racial discrimination against the business. We fail to see how anybody could prove discrimination simply by somebody saying they support Tommy Robinson.

Simplest solution here is not to send that staff member to the site. But then there's probably more to this than you're not saying. Most folk with a brain would know to keep their politics to themselves when at aa customer site...

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By *ie n MashCouple
23 weeks ago

Back in Malice


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Happy days, my boss loves speaking about her support for Yaxley-Lennon / Robinson. With an unlimited fine a constructive dismissal case would be literally fab.

"

Reading between the lines here, I think you have a thing for your boss. I suspect that you have some weird fantasy about shagging someone with right-wing political leanings while muttering some left-wing dogma (something along the lines of "Go on, let me fill your Robinson with my Corbyn". Go for it - you will probably have the time of your life!

Regarding the point made in your post, I find it concerning that simply having a political allegiance, in any direction, should have the potential penalties you listed. Different kettle of fish if someone acts on their beliefs in a way that adversely, and measurably, affects another person.

Possible just a Storm in a teacup? Hopefully they don't call last orders on your colleague.

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By *aldy321 OP   Man
23 weeks ago

Huddersfield


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Happy days, my boss loves speaking about her support for Yaxley-Lennon / Robinson. With an unlimited fine a constructive dismissal case would be literally fab.

Reading between the lines here, I think you have a thing for your boss. I suspect that you have some weird fantasy about shagging someone with right-wing political leanings while muttering some left-wing dogma (something along the lines of "Go on, let me fill your Robinson with my Corbyn". Go for it - you will probably have the time of your life!

Regarding the point made in your post, I find it concerning that simply having a political allegiance, in any direction, should have the potential penalties you listed. Different kettle of fish if someone acts on their beliefs in a way that adversely, and measurably, affects another person.

Possible just a Storm in a teacup? Hopefully they don't call last orders on your colleague."

Hello Pie & Mash. Plenty of criptic wonderfulness here See you in a couple of weeks

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By *ellhungvweMan
23 weeks ago

Cheltenham

I would suggest that you might want to consider hiring new HR consultants.

Disciplining someone for supporting a far right party would appear to break multiple discrimination laws unless you applied that ruling to everyone who openly expresses support for any party. That isn’t going to happen because it is impractical and so you can’t reasonably single out one set of views just because you don’t like them.

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By *ornucopiaMan
23 weeks ago

Bexley

Am I the only one who immediately thinks of switch wafers when people refer to Robinson as Yaxley-Lennon?

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By *aldy321 OP   Man
22 weeks ago

Huddersfield


"I would suggest that you might want to consider hiring new HR consultants.

Disciplining someone for supporting a far right party would appear to break multiple discrimination laws unless you applied that ruling to everyone who openly expresses support for any party. That isn’t going to happen because it is impractical and so you can’t reasonably single out one set of views just because you don’t like them."

The beauty of third party HR companies is that the ridiculous premium we pay them covers legal costs and payouts. So no point switching. I'll take their advice which I guess they have checked out.

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By *aGaGagging for itCouple
22 weeks ago

Newcastle upon Tyne


"I have had a problem at work with a client telling me one of my staff has come out with racist comments and wants him sent off site. I asked what the comments were and they said “he has told people he is a Tomy Robinson supporter”. Whilst I detest Stephen Yaxley-Lennon I couldn’t see that by saying he was a supporter of the bell end that this could be classed as him being a racist. "

I agree with you in principle, including detesting SYL /TR, though you seem to have confused the issues. You start by mentioning 'racist comments' and then say about being classed as a 'racist'.

Being racist is not illegal / an offence. We are permitted to believe whatever we like. However, what we do with our beliefs can be an offence, e.g. incitement to racial hatred, intimidation, discrimination, violence, etc and sometimes there may be a contextual element to it to (what is said, where it is said, how its said, how many times its said, what the intention of saying it was, etc), so if say, a group discussion is taking place on politics and someone just says that they are a supporter of SYL/TR, its potentially very different from 'I'm a supporter of SYL/TR and I fucking wish everyone else in this place was too, cos those (insert derogatory term) wouldn't last 5 minutes and this workplace would be a whole lot better without them', etc. So in this example you firstly have someone who is racist but merely expressing their belief, which is ok, but secondly you have someone who is making racist comments, which isn't ok. If someone gets dismissed for the first scenario, I can see the potential for an unfair dismissal claim.

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By *xposedInTheMaleMan
22 weeks ago

Cambridgeshire

I don't think employees should be telling clients about their political views even if they support the Liberal Democrats...

This sounds like he may have been making a point of telling as many people as possible, which makes it more serious.

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