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By *ostInTheSupermarket OP   Man
30 weeks ago

Central

Apparently two thirds of tory members want a pact with the ‘people's party’, Reform. Looking at the car crash Tory conference this week, probably not too hard to see why this appeals.

The question is, are they diluting the Reform brand?

The more tories that defect, the more Reform just look like another tory party. Is there a possibility this pisses off some of those who want something different & realise that Reform are not?

Reform is fast becoming the party of failed conservative MP’s seeking to salvage their political careers & Labour’s inevitable attack of ‘rebranded Tories’ is already writing itself.

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By (user no longer on site)
30 weeks ago

This frames the situation as a new development, but the reality is that Reform has always been a rebranded Conservative party. Their core policies, leadership, and donor base are aligned with the same right wing of the Conservative movement.

The "People's Party" branding is a classic populist tactic. They use divisive culture war issues to attract attention and create the illusion of being an anti-establishment force. However, their actual policies consistently serve the interests of a small, wealthy minority, rather than the general population.

The defection of Tory members doesn't change Reform's identity; it simply makes the alignment between the two parties more obvious. The more former Conservatives that join, the clearer it becomes that Reform is not a new alternative, but a continuation of the same political agenda.

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By *ostInTheSupermarket OP   Man
30 weeks ago

Central


"This frames the situation as a new development, but the reality is that Reform has always been a rebranded Conservative party. Their core policies, leadership, and donor base are aligned with the same right wing of the Conservative movement.

The "People's Party" branding is a classic populist tactic. They use divisive culture war issues to attract attention and create the illusion of being an anti-establishment force. However, their actual policies consistently serve the interests of a small, wealthy minority, rather than the general population.

The defection of Tory members doesn't change Reform's identity; it simply makes the alignment between the two parties more obvious. The more former Conservatives that join, the clearer it becomes that Reform is not a new alternative, but a continuation of the same political agenda."

Yes I agree, except on one point.

Badenoch is trying to paint Farage as a lefty (lol) because he wants to nationalise some stuff eg British Steel.

Ironic that, considering he is (was?) an arch Thatcherite, innit?

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By *ostInTheSupermarket OP   Man
30 weeks ago

Central

Actually, now that I’ve mentioned British Steel…

‘EU plan to match Trump steel tariffs spurs ‘existential threat’ to UK steel industry’

Yay, another Brexit benefit!

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By *ingdomNightTimePleasuresMan
30 weeks ago

nearby

Sky news reporting 20 Conservative councillors defected to Reform yesterday morning and over half of Tory MPs don’t want Badenoch as leader.

They are already toast, any defecting bitches must do what they are told under Reform leadership.

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By *ingdomNightTimePleasuresMan
30 weeks ago

nearby

Charge on Labour leadership next as they doubt Starmer can fight off reform.

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By (user no longer on site)
30 weeks ago

Query where all the failed Labour MP’s are going to go after the next election.

Achieved nothing and nobody has heard of them, not even their own constituents. Jobs in the public sector beckon where they can continue the good work.

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By *abioMan
30 weeks ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

What part of wanting to destroy the NHS screams “peoples party” to you?

Reform plc are a one issue party …

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By (user no longer on site)
30 weeks ago

RFM: 33% (+3)

LAB: 20% (=)

CON: 19% (-1)

LDM: 14% (=)

GRN: 8% (=)

SNP: 3% (=)

Latest polling from More in Common.

Looks like the Labour “attack” is working.

“Savaged by a dead sheep”.

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By *ingdomNightTimePleasuresMan
30 weeks ago

nearby

Tories binning stamp duty and £5k for first time buyers.

Where does this leave Reeves autumn tax grab

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By *eroy1000Man
30 weeks ago

milton keynes


"Apparently two thirds of tory members want a pact with the ‘people's party’, Reform. Looking at the car crash Tory conference this week, probably not too hard to see why this appeals.

The question is, are they diluting the Reform brand?

The more tories that defect, the more Reform just look like another tory party. Is there a possibility this pisses off some of those who want something different & realise that Reform are not?

Reform is fast becoming the party of failed conservative MP’s seeking to salvage their political careers & Labour’s inevitable attack of ‘rebranded Tories’ is already writing itself.

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I think that is a real danger for Reform, if they take to many ex conservative MP's they start to loose their uniqueness. I think a large reason for labours GE victory was basically they were not conservatives and therefore must be better. The conservatives brand is currently damaged and not likely to be repaired anytime soon. An exodus of MP's could transfer that damage to reform

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By *ornucopiaMan
30 weeks ago

Bexley


"Tories binning stamp duty and £5k for first time buyers.

Where does this leave Reeves autumn tax grab "

It leaves labour currently elected in power in power, which the tories are not.

Meanwhile, the tories can make as many grandiose hollow promises as they like without having to enact them.

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By *atureFem4FunWoman
30 weeks ago

Las Palmas GC


"Tories binning stamp duty and £5k for first time buyers.

Where does this leave Reeves autumn tax grab

It leaves labour currently elected in power in power, which the tories are not.

Meanwhile, the tories can make as many grandiose hollow promises as they like without having to enact them."

This

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By *eroy1000Man
30 weeks ago

milton keynes


"Tories binning stamp duty and £5k for first time buyers.

Where does this leave Reeves autumn tax grab

It leaves labour currently elected in power in power, which the tories are not.

Meanwhile, the tories can make as many grandiose hollow promises as they like without having to enact them."

This is true and has always been true if opposition parties. Labour had many years of doing this and then found out that it's not so easy when actually in government

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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man
30 weeks ago

BRIDPORT


"Tories binning stamp duty and £5k for first time buyers.

Where does this leave Reeves autumn tax grab

It leaves labour currently elected in power in power, which the tories are not.

Meanwhile, the tories can make as many grandiose hollow promises as they like without having to enact them."

Labour did the same, trouble is now they’re in government they are still doing it😂🤣😂

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