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"What an enlightened choice of an appropriate person to act as our Ambassador to the US. Another shrewd decision by Starmer." Indeed! He will get along with the president famously! | |||
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"What an enlightened choice of an appropriate person to act as our Ambassador to the US. Another shrewd decision by Starmer. Indeed! He will get along with the president famously!" (Shared secrets make for the firmest of friends) | |||
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"So what’s going on here? It looks like our own Ambassador to Washington, the “charming” and “urbane” Peter Mandelson, was a good friend of convicted p*edophile Jeffrey Epstein, at one point describing Epstein as his “best pal”. Business dealings with dodgy financiers, hanging out with Epstein in his dressing gown, even staying in Epstein's mansion while Epstein was in prison. In his early political days Mandelson’s Labour HQ salary was being paid by an associate of Ghislaine Maxwell. Not a good look for HM Ambassador to the USA, or for a Labour government that promised higher ethical standards. " At least he has said, on various occasions over many years, that one of his biggest mistakes in life in general, was being introduced to Epstein The president only fell out with Epstein after Epstein was poaching staff! One hell of a deflection from what Donald wrote in the book though… | |||
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"So what’s going on here? It looks like our own Ambassador to Washington, the “charming” and “urbane” Peter Mandelson, was a good friend of convicted p*edophile Jeffrey Epstein, at one point describing Epstein as his “best pal”. Business dealings with dodgy financiers, hanging out with Epstein in his dressing gown, even staying in Epstein's mansion while Epstein was in prison. In his early political days Mandelson’s Labour HQ salary was being paid by an associate of Ghislaine Maxwell. Not a good look for HM Ambassador to the USA, or for a Labour government that promised higher ethical standards. At least he has said, on various occasions over many years, that one of his biggest mistakes in life in general, was being introduced to Epstein The president only fell out with Epstein after Epstein was poaching staff! One hell of a deflection from what Donald wrote in the book though…" Talk about deflection, that is some heavy lifting to let Mandelson off the hook and put Trump on it... Mandelson distanced himself from Epstein in 2025, he knew it was going to come out in 2023.... His reply to the FT being a classic caught with his fingers in the till. Trump fell out with Epstein years before and has repeatedly said he didn't like him. | |||
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"So what’s going on here? It looks like our own Ambassador to Washington, the “charming” and “urbane” Peter Mandelson, was a good friend of convicted p*edophile Jeffrey Epstein, at one point describing Epstein as his “best pal”. Business dealings with dodgy financiers, hanging out with Epstein in his dressing gown, even staying in Epstein's mansion while Epstein was in prison. In his early political days Mandelson’s Labour HQ salary was being paid by an associate of Ghislaine Maxwell. Not a good look for HM Ambassador to the USA, or for a Labour government that promised higher ethical standards. " Trump was his pal too 🤷♂️ He might even have sent him a naughty birthday card 😂 | |||
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"A lot of public people are attracted to the wealthy and those with contacts. Trump was amongst the Epstein contacts. He even visited Buckingham Palace, so he got access to the very top of society. I don't think it's damning on Mandelson, he seems standard amongst the wealthy. He's not had access to young women either "So having a convicted paedophile as your 'best pal' isn't damning? | |||
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"A lot of public people are attracted to the wealthy and those with contacts. Trump was amongst the Epstein contacts. He even visited Buckingham Palace, so he got access to the very top of society. I don't think it's damning on Mandelson, he seems standard amongst the wealthy. He's not had access to young women either
So having a convicted paedophile as your 'best pal' isn't damning?"If one knows the person has a conviction then yes totally unacceptable.. If the conviction for such a vile crime happens as many families sadly discover at all walks of life then that's when they have to do what's right.. Unless you have a crystal ball how do you know.. Epstein no doubt had many rich and powerful friends who might have known fully or might just have suspected.. | |||
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"A lot of public people are attracted to the wealthy and those with contacts. Trump was amongst the Epstein contacts. He even visited Buckingham Palace, so he got access to the very top of society. I don't think it's damning on Mandelson, he seems standard amongst the wealthy. He's not had access to young women either
So having a convicted paedophile as your 'best pal' isn't damning?
If one knows the person has a conviction then yes totally unacceptable..
If the conviction for such a vile crime happens as many families sadly discover at all walks of life then that's when they have to do what's right..
Unless you have a crystal ball how do you know..
Epstein no doubt had many rich and powerful friends who might have known fully or might just have suspected..
"So we're expected to believe a savvy politician like Mandelson was 'pals' with Epstein over many years yet never smelt a rat? C'mon the stretches credulity. | |||
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"A lot of public people are attracted to the wealthy and those with contacts. Trump was amongst the Epstein contacts. He even visited Buckingham Palace, so he got access to the very top of society. I don't think it's damning on Mandelson, he seems standard amongst the wealthy. He's not had access to young women either
So having a convicted paedophile as your 'best pal' isn't damning?
If one knows the person has a conviction then yes totally unacceptable..
If the conviction for such a vile crime happens as many families sadly discover at all walks of life then that's when they have to do what's right..
Unless you have a crystal ball how do you know..
Epstein no doubt had many rich and powerful friends who might have known fully or might just have suspected..
So we're expected to believe a savvy politician like Mandelson was 'pals' with Epstein over many years yet never smelt a rat? C'mon the stretches credulity."I haven't said that have I? Rich and powerful people have associated with mass murderers and the likes of Epstein for thousands of years.. That's not exactly news to anyone nor is the plain and simple fact that in all political parties there are slimy operators who care not a jot about anything other than their own ego and or financial enrichment.. | |||
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"A lot of public people are attracted to the wealthy and those with contacts. Trump was amongst the Epstein contacts. He even visited Buckingham Palace, so he got access to the very top of society. I don't think it's damning on Mandelson, he seems standard amongst the wealthy. He's not had access to young women either
So having a convicted paedophile as your 'best pal' isn't damning?"How many people were happy to meet Jimmy Saville? Let he who is without sin cast the first stone! Mandleson should, however, go now. He is distracted from his task. | |||
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"Hey it a fake. He never wrote it, the card I mean. Maxwell put it in a book full of birthday messages from other well wishers, but it is a fake! As for Peter M he has always been a little sh1t, dirty untrustworthy and a reminder of power corrupts absolutely." Perfect, you should contact Murdoch and tell to just pay trump his billion dollars because a guy on fabswingers knows the letter is fake 🤷♂️ | |||
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"Hey it a fake. He never wrote it, the card I mean. Maxwell put it in a book full of birthday messages from other well wishers, but it is a fake! As for Peter M he has always been a little sh1t, dirty untrustworthy and a reminder of power corrupts absolutely. Perfect, you should contact Murdoch and tell to just pay trump his billion dollars because a guy on fabswingers knows the letter is fake 🤷♂️" I did not say the letter is fake I parroted Trump who says the letter is fake. keep up now. | |||
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"Knives seem to be out for Mandelson while the royal nonce Prince Andrew protected by the establishment " Wait until the survivors of Epstein have completed their list. Then they can see who is due to be prosecuted. | |||
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"A lot of public people are attracted to the wealthy and those with contacts. Trump was amongst the Epstein contacts. He even visited Buckingham Palace, so he got access to the very top of society. I don't think it's damning on Mandelson, he seems standard amongst the wealthy. He's not had access to young women either
So having a convicted paedophile as your 'best pal' isn't damning?
If one knows the person has a conviction then yes totally unacceptable..
If the conviction for such a vile crime happens as many families sadly discover at all walks of life then that's when they have to do what's right..
Unless you have a crystal ball how do you know..
Epstein no doubt had many rich and powerful friends who might have known fully or might just have suspected..
So we're expected to believe a savvy politician like Mandelson was 'pals' with Epstein over many years yet never smelt a rat? C'mon the stretches credulity."I don't know much about their different interactions but I'm assuming that Epstein just cultivated contacts with rich, powerful people, probably in association with Maxwell. His sexual interests are completely different from theirs and it was much more likely that it was a contact of convenience, rather than the type of good relationship that we'd be thinking of. It would probably be more surprising if there's someone rich that he's not tried to cultivate engagement with. I'm still waiting for anything that seems in the very slightest to be even a tiny bit damning | |||
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"A lot of public people are attracted to the wealthy and those with contacts. Trump was amongst the Epstein contacts. He even visited Buckingham Palace, so he got access to the very top of society. I don't think it's damning on Mandelson, he seems standard amongst the wealthy. He's not had access to young women either
So having a convicted paedophile as your 'best pal' isn't damning?
If one knows the person has a conviction then yes totally unacceptable..
If the conviction for such a vile crime happens as many families sadly discover at all walks of life then that's when they have to do what's right..
Unless you have a crystal ball how do you know..
Epstein no doubt had many rich and powerful friends who might have known fully or might just have suspected..
So we're expected to believe a savvy politician like Mandelson was 'pals' with Epstein over many years yet never smelt a rat? C'mon the stretches credulity.
I don't know much about their different interactions but I'm assuming that Epstein just cultivated contacts with rich, powerful people, probably in association with Maxwell. His sexual interests are completely different from theirs and it was much more likely that it was a contact of convenience, rather than the type of good relationship that we'd be thinking of. It would probably be more surprising if there's someone rich that he's not tried to cultivate engagement with.
I'm still waiting for anything that seems in the very slightest to be even a tiny bit damning "Well if being the 'best pal' of a notorious mass abuser doesn't make you suspicious, I have a bridge to sell you    | |||
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"A lot of public people are attracted to the wealthy and those with contacts. Trump was amongst the Epstein contacts. He even visited Buckingham Palace, so he got access to the very top of society. I don't think it's damning on Mandelson, he seems standard amongst the wealthy. He's not had access to young women either
So having a convicted paedophile as your 'best pal' isn't damning?
If one knows the person has a conviction then yes totally unacceptable..
If the conviction for such a vile crime happens as many families sadly discover at all walks of life then that's when they have to do what's right..
Unless you have a crystal ball how do you know..
Epstein no doubt had many rich and powerful friends who might have known fully or might just have suspected..
So we're expected to believe a savvy politician like Mandelson was 'pals' with Epstein over many years yet never smelt a rat? C'mon the stretches credulity.
I don't know much about their different interactions but I'm assuming that Epstein just cultivated contacts with rich, powerful people, probably in association with Maxwell. His sexual interests are completely different from theirs and it was much more likely that it was a contact of convenience, rather than the type of good relationship that we'd be thinking of. It would probably be more surprising if there's someone rich that he's not tried to cultivate engagement with.
I'm still waiting for anything that seems in the very slightest to be even a tiny bit damning "I'm really surprised you are taking a defensive stance on Mandelson and Epstein. Do you not consider it damning when Mandelson stayed at Epstein's apartment whilst Epstein was in prison for a very serious crime against a child. I wont write the detail here you can look it up. If Mandelson's comments about Epstein being his best pal are correct, do you think he would not have been aware of Epstein's background? | |||
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" Do you not consider it damning when Mandelson stayed at Epstein's apartment whilst Epstein was in prison for a very serious crime against a child. I wont write the detail here you can look it up. If Mandelson's comments about Epstein being his best pal are correct, do you think he would not have been aware of Epstein's background?" Starmer says he has confidence in Mandelson Two weeks ago he said the same about Rayner. | |||
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"A lot of public people are attracted to the wealthy and those with contacts. Trump was amongst the Epstein contacts. He even visited Buckingham Palace, so he got access to the very top of society. I don't think it's damning on Mandelson, he seems standard amongst the wealthy. He's not had access to young women either
So having a convicted paedophile as your 'best pal' isn't damning?"Seem to remember a Mrs Thatcher lobbying in support of a Mr Saville loads of pics together knighthood etc . It’s easy to fling mud . | |||
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"A lot of public people are attracted to the wealthy and those with contacts. Trump was amongst the Epstein contacts. He even visited Buckingham Palace, so he got access to the very top of society. I don't think it's damning on Mandelson, he seems standard amongst the wealthy. He's not had access to young women either
So having a convicted paedophile as your 'best pal' isn't damning?
Seem to remember a Mrs Thatcher lobbying in support of a Mr Saville loads of pics together knighthood etc .
It’s easy to fling mud . "Confusing post, is it simple whataboutery or are you defending Mandelson's relationship with Epstein? | |||
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"There's a certain naïvety being shown purely because he's a lefty in this thread.. Court transcripts are littered with statements of close friends and family members, wives who didn't have a clue about the vile behaviour of usually their 'life partner' in such things.. If he knew then he is damned, we don't yet know what else might come out in what has been released nor about whom.. He's probably and rightly finished in any case.. " I have Mandelson's birthday message below. Mandelson also stopped at Epstein's apartment whilst Epstein was in jail for a serious sex crime with a child, I don't see how he would not have known, in my opinion. Manedlson's birthday note to Epstein: "Once upon a time, an intelligent, sharp-witted man they call 'mysterious' parachuted into my life. You would spend many hours just waiting for him to turn up. And often, no sooner were you getting used to having him around, you would suddenly be alone… again leaving you with some 'interesting' friends to entertain instead… [this caption is accompanied by a photo of two unidentified women]. It continues: "Or just some dogs to keep you company (he wasn't always so keen on them). But then he would parachute back in… very occasionally, taking you by surprise in some far-off places [this caption accompanied with a whiskey label with Mandelson's name on it]... or in one of his glorious homes he likes to share with his friends (yum yum). But wherever he is in the world, he remains my best pal! | |||
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"There's a certain naïvety being shown purely because he's a lefty in this thread.. Court transcripts are littered with statements of close friends and family members, wives who didn't have a clue about the vile behaviour of usually their 'life partner' in such things.. If he knew then he is damned, we don't yet know what else might come out in what has been released nor about whom.. He's probably and rightly finished in any case.. I have Mandelson's birthday message below. Mandelson also stopped at Epstein's apartment whilst Epstein was in jail for a serious sex crime with a child, I don't see how he would not have known, in my opinion. Manedlson's birthday note to Epstein: "Once upon a time, an intelligent, sharp-witted man they call 'mysterious' parachuted into my life. You would spend many hours just waiting for him to turn up. And often, no sooner were you getting used to having him around, you would suddenly be alone… again leaving you with some 'interesting' friends to entertain instead… [this caption is accompanied by a photo of two unidentified women]. It continues: "Or just some dogs to keep you company (he wasn't always so keen on them). But then he would parachute back in… very occasionally, taking you by surprise in some far-off places [this caption accompanied with a whiskey label with Mandelson's name on it]... or in one of his glorious homes he likes to share with his friends (yum yum). But wherever he is in the world, he remains my best pal!" Thats been widely reported yes.. He's not the only one who stayed friends with Epstein or in fact who has lied about that .. My point about bias is clearly evidenced throughout the thread.. | |||
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"I believe it's only the beginning and more will come out of the people who many had so much trust in 😂🤣 a whole can of worms The lid I'm sure is trying to get shut " Let's hope it's all released and not selectively.. No matter whom.. The victims deserve that .. | |||
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"There's a certain naïvety being shown purely because he's a lefty in this thread.. Court transcripts are littered with statements of close friends and family members, wives who didn't have a clue about the vile behaviour of usually their 'life partner' in such things.. If he knew then he is damned, we don't yet know what else might come out in what has been released nor about whom.. He's probably and rightly finished in any case.. I have Mandelson's birthday message below. Mandelson also stopped at Epstein's apartment whilst Epstein was in jail for a serious sex crime with a child, I don't see how he would not have known, in my opinion. Manedlson's birthday note to Epstein: "Once upon a time, an intelligent, sharp-witted man they call 'mysterious' parachuted into my life. You would spend many hours just waiting for him to turn up. And often, no sooner were you getting used to having him around, you would suddenly be alone… again leaving you with some 'interesting' friends to entertain instead… [this caption is accompanied by a photo of two unidentified women]. It continues: "Or just some dogs to keep you company (he wasn't always so keen on them). But then he would parachute back in… very occasionally, taking you by surprise in some far-off places [this caption accompanied with a whiskey label with Mandelson's name on it]... or in one of his glorious homes he likes to share with his friends (yum yum). But wherever he is in the world, he remains my best pal! Thats been widely reported yes.. He's not the only one who stayed friends with Epstein or in fact who has lied about that .. My point about bias is clearly evidenced throughout the thread.. " Are you really making this about Mandelson being part of the labour party? Because I'm not seeing naivety as you have mentioned. | |||
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"There's a certain naïvety being shown purely because he's a lefty in this thread.. Court transcripts are littered with statements of close friends and family members, wives who didn't have a clue about the vile behaviour of usually their 'life partner' in such things.. If he knew then he is damned, we don't yet know what else might come out in what has been released nor about whom.. He's probably and rightly finished in any case.. I have Mandelson's birthday message below. Mandelson also stopped at Epstein's apartment whilst Epstein was in jail for a serious sex crime with a child, I don't see how he would not have known, in my opinion. Manedlson's birthday note to Epstein: "Once upon a time, an intelligent, sharp-witted man they call 'mysterious' parachuted into my life. You would spend many hours just waiting for him to turn up. And often, no sooner were you getting used to having him around, you would suddenly be alone… again leaving you with some 'interesting' friends to entertain instead… [this caption is accompanied by a photo of two unidentified women]. It continues: "Or just some dogs to keep you company (he wasn't always so keen on them). But then he would parachute back in… very occasionally, taking you by surprise in some far-off places [this caption accompanied with a whiskey label with Mandelson's name on it]... or in one of his glorious homes he likes to share with his friends (yum yum). But wherever he is in the world, he remains my best pal! Thats been widely reported yes.. He's not the only one who stayed friends with Epstein or in fact who has lied about that .. My point about bias is clearly evidenced throughout the thread.. Are you really making this about Mandelson being part of the labour party? Because I'm not seeing naivety as you have mentioned." My point about bias is literally based upon your post above where you accuse someone of deflection.. Because they mention trump.. Yes there's a thread about him I'm sure on this issue but in a thread where the common link is Epstein and Epstein had many friends across all the political leanings as well as big business etc to say it's deflection is simply bias.. In my opinion | |||
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"There's a certain naïvety being shown purely because he's a lefty in this thread.. Court transcripts are littered with statements of close friends and family members, wives who didn't have a clue about the vile behaviour of usually their 'life partner' in such things.. If he knew then he is damned, we don't yet know what else might come out in what has been released nor about whom.. He's probably and rightly finished in any case.. I have Mandelson's birthday message below. Mandelson also stopped at Epstein's apartment whilst Epstein was in jail for a serious sex crime with a child, I don't see how he would not have known, in my opinion. Manedlson's birthday note to Epstein: "Once upon a time, an intelligent, sharp-witted man they call 'mysterious' parachuted into my life. You would spend many hours just waiting for him to turn up. And often, no sooner were you getting used to having him around, you would suddenly be alone… again leaving you with some 'interesting' friends to entertain instead… [this caption is accompanied by a photo of two unidentified women]. It continues: "Or just some dogs to keep you company (he wasn't always so keen on them). But then he would parachute back in… very occasionally, taking you by surprise in some far-off places [this caption accompanied with a whiskey label with Mandelson's name on it]... or in one of his glorious homes he likes to share with his friends (yum yum). But wherever he is in the world, he remains my best pal! Thats been widely reported yes.. He's not the only one who stayed friends with Epstein or in fact who has lied about that .. My point about bias is clearly evidenced throughout the thread.. Are you really making this about Mandelson being part of the labour party? Because I'm not seeing naivety as you have mentioned. My point about bias is literally based upon your post above where you accuse someone of deflection.. Because they mention trump.. Yes there's a thread about him I'm sure on this issue but in a thread where the common link is Epstein and Epstein had many friends across all the political leanings as well as big business etc to say it's deflection is simply bias.. In my opinion " I think it is you that is biased here buddy. The thread is about Mandelson and one of the very first posts tries to turn it into Trump, by excusing Mandelson with this "At least he has said, on various occasions over many years, that one of his biggest mistakes in life in general, was being introduced to Epstein". That was not correct he only said he regretted his friendship in 2025. The post then went on to bring Trump into the mix as being worse than Mandelson. Now if you think that the post I was referring to wasn't biased and I was balancing it out, you need to wobble your head. | |||
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"There's a certain naïvety being shown purely because he's a lefty in this thread.. Court transcripts are littered with statements of close friends and family members, wives who didn't have a clue about the vile behaviour of usually their 'life partner' in such things.. If he knew then he is damned, we don't yet know what else might come out in what has been released nor about whom.. He's probably and rightly finished in any case.. I have Mandelson's birthday message below. Mandelson also stopped at Epstein's apartment whilst Epstein was in jail for a serious sex crime with a child, I don't see how he would not have known, in my opinion. Manedlson's birthday note to Epstein: "Once upon a time, an intelligent, sharp-witted man they call 'mysterious' parachuted into my life. You would spend many hours just waiting for him to turn up. And often, no sooner were you getting used to having him around, you would suddenly be alone… again leaving you with some 'interesting' friends to entertain instead… [this caption is accompanied by a photo of two unidentified women]. It continues: "Or just some dogs to keep you company (he wasn't always so keen on them). But then he would parachute back in… very occasionally, taking you by surprise in some far-off places [this caption accompanied with a whiskey label with Mandelson's name on it]... or in one of his glorious homes he likes to share with his friends (yum yum). But wherever he is in the world, he remains my best pal! Thats been widely reported yes.. He's not the only one who stayed friends with Epstein or in fact who has lied about that .. My point about bias is clearly evidenced throughout the thread.. " What bias? Here we have a British Ambassador who is now hopelessly compromised and open to bl@ckmaiI or extortion. This is a person who should be squeaky clean to do his/her job properly. The only political element is poor judgement by Starmer who must have guessed there were skeletons in the closet. | |||
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"The whole Epstein show was one big black*ail scam involving rich, powerful and political people from all over the world, Its the only reason no one has been charged and never will be " Throwing Maxwell under the bus as a token inpricsonment is wearing a bit thin. I would be disappointed if there is no follow up on that birthday book, some of the passages are vulgar and point directly to an understanding of the sleazy lifestyle Epstein and his pals were having. | |||
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"There's a certain naïvety being shown purely because he's a lefty in this thread.. Court transcripts are littered with statements of close friends and family members, wives who didn't have a clue about the vile behaviour of usually their 'life partner' in such things.. If he knew then he is damned, we don't yet know what else might come out in what has been released nor about whom.. He's probably and rightly finished in any case.. I have Mandelson's birthday message below. Mandelson also stopped at Epstein's apartment whilst Epstein was in jail for a serious sex crime with a child, I don't see how he would not have known, in my opinion. Manedlson's birthday note to Epstein: "Once upon a time, an intelligent, sharp-witted man they call 'mysterious' parachuted into my life. You would spend many hours just waiting for him to turn up. And often, no sooner were you getting used to having him around, you would suddenly be alone… again leaving you with some 'interesting' friends to entertain instead… [this caption is accompanied by a photo of two unidentified women]. It continues: "Or just some dogs to keep you company (he wasn't always so keen on them). But then he would parachute back in… very occasionally, taking you by surprise in some far-off places [this caption accompanied with a whiskey label with Mandelson's name on it]... or in one of his glorious homes he likes to share with his friends (yum yum). But wherever he is in the world, he remains my best pal! Thats been widely reported yes.. He's not the only one who stayed friends with Epstein or in fact who has lied about that .. My point about bias is clearly evidenced throughout the thread.. Are you really making this about Mandelson being part of the labour party? Because I'm not seeing naivety as you have mentioned. My point about bias is literally based upon your post above where you accuse someone of deflection.. Because they mention trump.. Yes there's a thread about him I'm sure on this issue but in a thread where the common link is Epstein and Epstein had many friends across all the political leanings as well as big business etc to say it's deflection is simply bias.. In my opinion I think it is you that is biased here buddy. The thread is about Mandelson and one of the very first posts tries to turn it into Trump, by excusing Mandelson with this "At least he has said, on various occasions over many years, that one of his biggest mistakes in life in general, was being introduced to Epstein". That was not correct he only said he regretted his friendship in 2025. The post then went on to bring Trump into the mix as being worse than Mandelson. Now if you think that the post I was referring to wasn't biased and I was balancing it out, you need to wobble your head. " Tetchy aren't you when pulled up.. 
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"There's a certain naïvety being shown purely because he's a lefty in this thread.. Court transcripts are littered with statements of close friends and family members, wives who didn't have a clue about the vile behaviour of usually their 'life partner' in such things.. If he knew then he is damned, we don't yet know what else might come out in what has been released nor about whom.. He's probably and rightly finished in any case.. I have Mandelson's birthday message below. Mandelson also stopped at Epstein's apartment whilst Epstein was in jail for a serious sex crime with a child, I don't see how he would not have known, in my opinion. Manedlson's birthday note to Epstein: "Once upon a time, an intelligent, sharp-witted man they call 'mysterious' parachuted into my life. You would spend many hours just waiting for him to turn up. And often, no sooner were you getting used to having him around, you would suddenly be alone… again leaving you with some 'interesting' friends to entertain instead… [this caption is accompanied by a photo of two unidentified women]. It continues: "Or just some dogs to keep you company (he wasn't always so keen on them). But then he would parachute back in… very occasionally, taking you by surprise in some far-off places [this caption accompanied with a whiskey label with Mandelson's name on it]... or in one of his glorious homes he likes to share with his friends (yum yum). But wherever he is in the world, he remains my best pal! Thats been widely reported yes.. He's not the only one who stayed friends with Epstein or in fact who has lied about that .. My point about bias is clearly evidenced throughout the thread.. What bias? Here we have a British Ambassador who is now hopelessly compromised and open to bl@ckmaiI or extortion. This is a person who should be squeaky clean to do his/her job properly. The only political element is poor judgement by Starmer who must have guessed there were skeletons in the closet." Read what I've said in here about him, he's a slimy operator.. Bla#kmailed by whom? The people releasing the information? If your basing poor judgement after what we've seen here for decades by all PMs upon their ability to use guesswork that's an interesting view.. Pretty irrelevant but interesting.. Shock horror mandelsohn wasn't fully truthful in his pre appointment chat.. | |||
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"There's a certain naïvety being shown purely because he's a lefty in this thread.. Court transcripts are littered with statements of close friends and family members, wives who didn't have a clue about the vile behaviour of usually their 'life partner' in such things.. If he knew then he is damned, we don't yet know what else might come out in what has been released nor about whom.. He's probably and rightly finished in any case.. I have Mandelson's birthday message below. Mandelson also stopped at Epstein's apartment whilst Epstein was in jail for a serious sex crime with a child, I don't see how he would not have known, in my opinion. Manedlson's birthday note to Epstein: "Once upon a time, an intelligent, sharp-witted man they call 'mysterious' parachuted into my life. You would spend many hours just waiting for him to turn up. And often, no sooner were you getting used to having him around, you would suddenly be alone… again leaving you with some 'interesting' friends to entertain instead… [this caption is accompanied by a photo of two unidentified women]. It continues: "Or just some dogs to keep you company (he wasn't always so keen on them). But then he would parachute back in… very occasionally, taking you by surprise in some far-off places [this caption accompanied with a whiskey label with Mandelson's name on it]... or in one of his glorious homes he likes to share with his friends (yum yum). But wherever he is in the world, he remains my best pal! Thats been widely reported yes.. He's not the only one who stayed friends with Epstein or in fact who has lied about that .. My point about bias is clearly evidenced throughout the thread.. Are you really making this about Mandelson being part of the labour party? Because I'm not seeing naivety as you have mentioned. My point about bias is literally based upon your post above where you accuse someone of deflection.. Because they mention trump.. Yes there's a thread about him I'm sure on this issue but in a thread where the common link is Epstein and Epstein had many friends across all the political leanings as well as big business etc to say it's deflection is simply bias.. In my opinion I think it is you that is biased here buddy. The thread is about Mandelson and one of the very first posts tries to turn it into Trump, by excusing Mandelson with this "At least he has said, on various occasions over many years, that one of his biggest mistakes in life in general, was being introduced to Epstein". That was not correct he only said he regretted his friendship in 2025. The post then went on to bring Trump into the mix as being worse than Mandelson. Now if you think that the post I was referring to wasn't biased and I was balancing it out, you need to wobble your head. " Oh yes I forgot,I ain't your buddy cheers..  | |||
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"There's a certain naïvety being shown purely because he's a lefty in this thread.. Court transcripts are littered with statements of close friends and family members, wives who didn't have a clue about the vile behaviour of usually their 'life partner' in such things.. If he knew then he is damned, we don't yet know what else might come out in what has been released nor about whom.. He's probably and rightly finished in any case.. I have Mandelson's birthday message below. Mandelson also stopped at Epstein's apartment whilst Epstein was in jail for a serious sex crime with a child, I don't see how he would not have known, in my opinion. Manedlson's birthday note to Epstein: "Once upon a time, an intelligent, sharp-witted man they call 'mysterious' parachuted into my life. You would spend many hours just waiting for him to turn up. And often, no sooner were you getting used to having him around, you would suddenly be alone… again leaving you with some 'interesting' friends to entertain instead… [this caption is accompanied by a photo of two unidentified women]. It continues: "Or just some dogs to keep you company (he wasn't always so keen on them). But then he would parachute back in… very occasionally, taking you by surprise in some far-off places [this caption accompanied with a whiskey label with Mandelson's name on it]... or in one of his glorious homes he likes to share with his friends (yum yum). But wherever he is in the world, he remains my best pal! Thats been widely reported yes.. He's not the only one who stayed friends with Epstein or in fact who has lied about that .. My point about bias is clearly evidenced throughout the thread.. Are you really making this about Mandelson being part of the labour party? Because I'm not seeing naivety as you have mentioned. My point about bias is literally based upon your post above where you accuse someone of deflection.. Because they mention trump.. Yes there's a thread about him I'm sure on this issue but in a thread where the common link is Epstein and Epstein had many friends across all the political leanings as well as big business etc to say it's deflection is simply bias.. In my opinion I think it is you that is biased here buddy. The thread is about Mandelson and one of the very first posts tries to turn it into Trump, by excusing Mandelson with this "At least he has said, on various occasions over many years, that one of his biggest mistakes in life in general, was being introduced to Epstein". That was not correct he only said he regretted his friendship in 2025. The post then went on to bring Trump into the mix as being worse than Mandelson. Now if you think that the post I was referring to wasn't biased and I was balancing it out, you need to wobble your head. Oh yes I forgot,I ain't your buddy cheers.. "Try sticking to the topic and maybe stop interacting with me, you clearly have issues with me that are bothering you.  | |||
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"There's a certain naïvety being shown purely because he's a lefty in this thread.. Court transcripts are littered with statements of close friends and family members, wives who didn't have a clue about the vile behaviour of usually their 'life partner' in such things.. If he knew then he is damned, we don't yet know what else might come out in what has been released nor about whom.. He's probably and rightly finished in any case.. I have Mandelson's birthday message below. Mandelson also stopped at Epstein's apartment whilst Epstein was in jail for a serious sex crime with a child, I don't see how he would not have known, in my opinion. Manedlson's birthday note to Epstein: "Once upon a time, an intelligent, sharp-witted man they call 'mysterious' parachuted into my life. You would spend many hours just waiting for him to turn up. And often, no sooner were you getting used to having him around, you would suddenly be alone… again leaving you with some 'interesting' friends to entertain instead… [this caption is accompanied by a photo of two unidentified women]. It continues: "Or just some dogs to keep you company (he wasn't always so keen on them). But then he would parachute back in… very occasionally, taking you by surprise in some far-off places [this caption accompanied with a whiskey label with Mandelson's name on it]... or in one of his glorious homes he likes to share with his friends (yum yum). But wherever he is in the world, he remains my best pal! Thats been widely reported yes.. He's not the only one who stayed friends with Epstein or in fact who has lied about that .. My point about bias is clearly evidenced throughout the thread.. Are you really making this about Mandelson being part of the labour party? Because I'm not seeing naivety as you have mentioned. My point about bias is literally based upon your post above where you accuse someone of deflection.. Because they mention trump.. Yes there's a thread about him I'm sure on this issue but in a thread where the common link is Epstein and Epstein had many friends across all the political leanings as well as big business etc to say it's deflection is simply bias.. In my opinion I think it is you that is biased here buddy. The thread is about Mandelson and one of the very first posts tries to turn it into Trump, by excusing Mandelson with this "At least he has said, on various occasions over many years, that one of his biggest mistakes in life in general, was being introduced to Epstein". That was not correct he only said he regretted his friendship in 2025. The post then went on to bring Trump into the mix as being worse than Mandelson. Now if you think that the post I was referring to wasn't biased and I was balancing it out, you need to wobble your head. Oh yes I forgot,I ain't your buddy cheers..
Try sticking to the topic and maybe stop interacting with me, you clearly have issues with me that are bothering you. "Nope.. Irony is strong in you tonight.. | |||
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"There's a certain naïvety being shown purely because he's a lefty in this thread.. Court transcripts are littered with statements of close friends and family members, wives who didn't have a clue about the vile behaviour of usually their 'life partner' in such things.. If he knew then he is damned, we don't yet know what else might come out in what has been released nor about whom.. He's probably and rightly finished in any case.. I have Mandelson's birthday message below. Mandelson also stopped at Epstein's apartment whilst Epstein was in jail for a serious sex crime with a child, I don't see how he would not have known, in my opinion. Manedlson's birthday note to Epstein: "Once upon a time, an intelligent, sharp-witted man they call 'mysterious' parachuted into my life. You would spend many hours just waiting for him to turn up. And often, no sooner were you getting used to having him around, you would suddenly be alone… again leaving you with some 'interesting' friends to entertain instead… [this caption is accompanied by a photo of two unidentified women]. It continues: "Or just some dogs to keep you company (he wasn't always so keen on them). But then he would parachute back in… very occasionally, taking you by surprise in some far-off places [this caption accompanied with a whiskey label with Mandelson's name on it]... or in one of his glorious homes he likes to share with his friends (yum yum). But wherever he is in the world, he remains my best pal! Thats been widely reported yes.. He's not the only one who stayed friends with Epstein or in fact who has lied about that .. My point about bias is clearly evidenced throughout the thread.. What bias? Here we have a British Ambassador who is now hopelessly compromised and open to bl@ckmaiI or extortion. This is a person who should be squeaky clean to do his/her job properly. The only political element is poor judgement by Starmer who must have guessed there were skeletons in the closet. Read what I've said in here about him, he's a slimy operator.. Bla#kmailed by whom? The people releasing the information? If your basing poor judgement after what we've seen here for decades by all PMs upon their ability to use guesswork that's an interesting view.. Pretty irrelevant but interesting.. Shock horror mandelsohn wasn't fully truthful in his pre appointment chat.." Well sounds like you agree he should go. His situation is untenable imo | |||
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"There's a certain naïvety being shown purely because he's a lefty in this thread.. Court transcripts are littered with statements of close friends and family members, wives who didn't have a clue about the vile behaviour of usually their 'life partner' in such things.. If he knew then he is damned, we don't yet know what else might come out in what has been released nor about whom.. He's probably and rightly finished in any case.. I have Mandelson's birthday message below. Mandelson also stopped at Epstein's apartment whilst Epstein was in jail for a serious sex crime with a child, I don't see how he would not have known, in my opinion. Manedlson's birthday note to Epstein: "Once upon a time, an intelligent, sharp-witted man they call 'mysterious' parachuted into my life. You would spend many hours just waiting for him to turn up. And often, no sooner were you getting used to having him around, you would suddenly be alone… again leaving you with some 'interesting' friends to entertain instead… [this caption is accompanied by a photo of two unidentified women]. It continues: "Or just some dogs to keep you company (he wasn't always so keen on them). But then he would parachute back in… very occasionally, taking you by surprise in some far-off places [this caption accompanied with a whiskey label with Mandelson's name on it]... or in one of his glorious homes he likes to share with his friends (yum yum). But wherever he is in the world, he remains my best pal! Thats been widely reported yes.. He's not the only one who stayed friends with Epstein or in fact who has lied about that .. My point about bias is clearly evidenced throughout the thread.. What bias? Here we have a British Ambassador who is now hopelessly compromised and open to bl@ckmaiI or extortion. This is a person who should be squeaky clean to do his/her job properly. The only political element is poor judgement by Starmer who must have guessed there were skeletons in the closet. Read what I've said in here about him, he's a slimy operator.. Bla#kmailed by whom? The people releasing the information? If your basing poor judgement after what we've seen here for decades by all PMs upon their ability to use guesswork that's an interesting view.. Pretty irrelevant but interesting.. Shock horror mandelsohn wasn't fully truthful in his pre appointment chat.. Well sounds like you agree he should go. His situation is untenable imo" Despite what our friends over the pond might think yes he should go.. Probably soon rather than him hanging around till trump visits.. | |||
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"I believe it's only the beginning and more will come out of the people who many had so much trust in 😂🤣 a whole can of worms The lid I'm sure is trying to get shut Let's hope it's all released and not selectively.. No matter whom.. The victims deserve that .." I'm Sure private emails are most likely only going one way towards whoever holds all the cards, and the circle is huge so a few may get thrown under a bus to save the skin of the rest as far too many high figures involved globally which isn't huge but massive | |||
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"A lot of public people are attracted to the wealthy and those with contacts. Trump was amongst the Epstein contacts. He even visited Buckingham Palace, so he got access to the very top of society. I don't think it's damning on Mandelson, he seems standard amongst the wealthy. He's not had access to young women either
So having a convicted paedophile as your 'best pal' isn't damning?
If one knows the person has a conviction then yes totally unacceptable..
If the conviction for such a vile crime happens as many families sadly discover at all walks of life then that's when they have to do what's right..
Unless you have a crystal ball how do you know..
Epstein no doubt had many rich and powerful friends who might have known fully or might just have suspected..
So we're expected to believe a savvy politician like Mandelson was 'pals' with Epstein over many years yet never smelt a rat? C'mon the stretches credulity.
I don't know much about their different interactions but I'm assuming that Epstein just cultivated contacts with rich, powerful people, probably in association with Maxwell. His sexual interests are completely different from theirs and it was much more likely that it was a contact of convenience, rather than the type of good relationship that we'd be thinking of. It would probably be more surprising if there's someone rich that he's not tried to cultivate engagement with.
I'm still waiting for anything that seems in the very slightest to be even a tiny bit damning
Well if being the 'best pal' of a notorious mass abuser doesn't make you suspicious, I have a bridge to sell you "He's drawn to money and power, like many in that set. He's not someone I admire, he's repulsive. But I assume he's in no way associated with underage women and what probably some of the men were up to. When Trump, the Royal family and others were associated with Epstein, Mandy doesn't seem particularly unusual or keeping company with someone who wasn't fully integrated inside high society. Mandy was almost certainly not truly a best friend of the pervert but just keeping a very wealthy contact sweet. | |||
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"And he’s gone "Not before time, but with his history it says a lot about Starmer that he was given the job in the first place. Hopefully it will be the last we hear of this utter slime ball. | |||
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"And he’s gone
Not before time, but with his history it says a lot about Starmer that he was given the job in the first place.
Hopefully it will be the last we hear of this utter slime ball."I think we will be hearing a lot more about him over the next few days, such was the extent of his friendship with Epstein. I hope he doesn't get a free pass to walk away from any wrong doing either.. | |||
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"And he’s gone
Not before time, but with his history it says a lot about Starmer that he was given the job in the first place.
Hopefully it will be the last we hear of this utter slime ball.
I think we will be hearing a lot more about him over the next few days, such was the extent of his friendship with Epstein. I hope he doesn't get a free pass to walk away from any wrong doing either.."OK. I'll live with a few more days of him, maybe even a week or two if it heaps more embarrassment on Starmer. But after that he can crawl into his hole forever. | |||
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"Only on Monday Starmer was supporting Mandelson Thursday and the US Ambassador joins Siddiq and Rayner out of government. Who’s next. " My money is on Reeves | |||
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"Only on Monday Starmer was supporting Mandelson Thursday and the US Ambassador joins Siddiq and Rayner out of government. Who’s next. My money is on Reeves" Yes mine would be on Reeves as well. But with this lot you never know what is going to come crawling out of the woodwork. | |||
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"Only on Monday Starmer was supporting Mandelson Thursday and the US Ambassador joins Siddiq and Rayner out of government. Who’s next. My money is on Reeves" Reeves will probably be kept on to deliver the budget (which will be awful for all of us). Then she will be sacrificed to calm the markets. The question is, how many more will go before then. | |||
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"It was inevitable.. Too quickly appointed in a panic over trumps tariffs etc and getting a good news headline about a trade deal possibly.. Slippery as an eel and slimy too.. " Well home and Trump have a lot in common. | |||
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"Far too many apologists in this thread." yep they will excuse anything if it is someone from there side | |||
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"It's great to see the back of Mandelson. He's long been seen as a corrupt and corrosive right-winger by people on the left. He's commonly called the Prince of Darkness but some call him Grima Wormtongue (after the LOTR character) as he whispered in Blair's and Starmer's ears to persuade them to move to the right. " Haha that’s a good one! When the Left fail it’s always: He’s really a Tory anyway! Or Real socialism has never been tried! | |||
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"It's great to see the back of Mandelson. He's long been seen as a corrupt and corrosive right-winger by people on the left. He's commonly called the Prince of Darkness but some call him Grima Wormtongue (after the LOTR character) as he whispered in Blair's and Starmer's ears to persuade them to move to the right. " So Herbert Morrison's grandson was a right winger. | |||
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"Any news on: Starmer and the Rent Boys Nick Brown MP. Whatever happened to him? Still all very quiet." Enlighten us? | |||
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