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" What’s happening and why?" Tories are dead and Labour the government in name only Reform gathering momentum every day. | |||
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"Be careful, VERY careful, of those that offer you everything you ever wanted without saying how they will acheive it. What Farage wants, like all politicians, is POWER. Power over you and me. What better way to acheive that than taking away our human rights? The ECHR exists primarily to protect the average citizen from the excesses of their Government. Do not hand that task to those whom present the greatest risk to ourselves. " Now that's enough of posting intelligent stuff here! The track record of Reform's local councillors - those who bother to even turn up - should already be a warning. | |||
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"Be careful, VERY careful, of those that offer you everything you ever wanted without saying how they will acheive it. What Farage wants, like all politicians, is POWER. Power over you and me. What better way to acheive that than taking away our human rights? The ECHR exists primarily to protect the average citizen from the excesses of their Government. Do not hand that task to those whom present the greatest risk to ourselves. " You know there is a little matter of a GE to be won, so he will need the support of the people to implement any of his plans? Democracy is what we are signed up to. | |||
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"Be careful, VERY careful, of those that offer you everything you ever wanted without saying how they will acheive it. What Farage wants, like all politicians, is POWER. Power over you and me. What better way to acheive that than taking away our human rights? The ECHR exists primarily to protect the average citizen from the excesses of their Government. Do not hand that task to those whom present the greatest risk to ourselves. Now that's enough of posting intelligent stuff here! The track record of Reform's local councillors - those who bother to even turn up - should already be a warning." To be fair a lot of Reform's new councillors haven't exactly covered themselves in glory. But the key word is "new". The vast majority (if not all of them) were first timers in the job. Many will have been "paper candidates" who stood without (or so they thought) a hope of getting elected. Before anyone moans about paper candidates and Reform. The other parties have done the same since year dot. Trust me, I've been one on quite a few occasions. Many will have been in shock at winning and a good few had to resign because of work commitments Etc. It's what often happens when paper candidates pull off a surprise. No-one, not even Farage, expected that landslide in May. How would a Reform government work out? Who knows? But can it be any worse than the shit show we've had since the fag end of Major's government? Other than a bit of feelgood for a while under Blair (funded by gold and the credit card) every government has got progressively worse. Culminating in the bunch of amateurs we've got now. So I say give them a chance. If we are going down the plughole we may as well fly the flag on the way down. Unless Labour get us there first. | |||
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"Be careful, VERY careful, of those that offer you everything you ever wanted without saying how they will acheive it. What Farage wants, like all politicians, is POWER. Power over you and me. What better way to acheive that than taking away our human rights? The ECHR exists primarily to protect the average citizen from the excesses of their Government. Do not hand that task to those whom present the greatest risk to ourselves. You know there is a little matter of a GE to be won, so he will need the support of the people to implement any of his plans? Democracy is what we are signed up to." George Carlin said "Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers" Least we forget, we had BREXIT and 14 years of Conservative rule. 80% of voters do not think they go on emotion. My new political party, the "Perfect Future Party" promises in its manifesto to stop all illegal migrants within 24 hours and deport those already here in a week. To reduce income tax to 5%, to implement 30 days of national holiday every year, to remove all tax from alcoholic drinks, hamburgers and crisps, increase the minimum wage to £30 per hour, remove all tax from petrol and diesel, cure all forms of cancer within 1 month and by the end of the first year eradicate homelessness. Who will vote first me? Come on. you know it makes sense.  | |||
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"Be careful, VERY careful, of those that offer you everything you ever wanted without saying how they will acheive it. What Farage wants, like all politicians, is POWER. Power over you and me. What better way to acheive that than taking away our human rights? The ECHR exists primarily to protect the average citizen from the excesses of their Government. Do not hand that task to those whom present the greatest risk to ourselves. You know there is a little matter of a GE to be won, so he will need the support of the people to implement any of his plans? Democracy is what we are signed up to. George Carlin said "Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers" Least we forget, we had BREXIT and 14 years of Conservative rule. 80% of voters do not think they go on emotion. My new political party, the "Perfect Future Party" promises in its manifesto to stop all illegal migrants within 24 hours and deport those already here in a week. To reduce income tax to 5%, to implement 30 days of national holiday every year, to remove all tax from alcoholic drinks, hamburgers and crisps, increase the minimum wage to £30 per hour, remove all tax from petrol and diesel, cure all forms of cancer within 1 month and by the end of the first year eradicate homelessness. Who will vote first me? Come on. you know it makes sense. "There's at least one person on fab that would believe you  | |||
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"Be careful, VERY careful, of those that offer you everything you ever wanted without saying how they will acheive it. What Farage wants, like all politicians, is POWER. Power over you and me. What better way to acheive that than taking away our human rights? The ECHR exists primarily to protect the average citizen from the excesses of their Government. Do not hand that task to those whom present the greatest risk to ourselves. You know there is a little matter of a GE to be won, so he will need the support of the people to implement any of his plans? Democracy is what we are signed up to. George Carlin said "Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers" Least we forget, we had BREXIT and 14 years of Conservative rule. 80% of voters do not think they go on emotion. My new political party, the "Perfect Future Party" promises in its manifesto to stop all illegal migrants within 24 hours and deport those already here in a week. To reduce income tax to 5%, to implement 30 days of national holiday every year, to remove all tax from alcoholic drinks, hamburgers and crisps, increase the minimum wage to £30 per hour, remove all tax from petrol and diesel, cure all forms of cancer within 1 month and by the end of the first year eradicate homelessness. Who will vote first me? Come on. you know it makes sense. "It is perfectly acceptable to have a point of view that is different, however I do struggle to get behind people who think anyone who doesn't think their way is stupid. | |||
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"Be careful, VERY careful, of those that offer you everything you ever wanted without saying how they will acheive it. What Farage wants, like all politicians, is POWER. Power over you and me. What better way to acheive that than taking away our human rights? The ECHR exists primarily to protect the average citizen from the excesses of their Government. Do not hand that task to those whom present the greatest risk to ourselves. You know there is a little matter of a GE to be won, so he will need the support of the people to implement any of his plans? Democracy is what we are signed up to. George Carlin said "Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers" Least we forget, we had BREXIT and 14 years of Conservative rule. 80% of voters do not think they go on emotion. My new political party, the "Perfect Future Party" promises in its manifesto to stop all illegal migrants within 24 hours and deport those already here in a week. To reduce income tax to 5%, to implement 30 days of national holiday every year, to remove all tax from alcoholic drinks, hamburgers and crisps, increase the minimum wage to £30 per hour, remove all tax from petrol and diesel, cure all forms of cancer within 1 month and by the end of the first year eradicate homelessness. Who will vote first me? Come on. you know it makes sense.
It is perfectly acceptable to have a point of view that is different, however I do struggle to get behind people who think anyone who doesn't think their way is stupid."The operative word there is THINK. If you consider what others say, run it through a BS and reality filter and reach a considered opinion, then you have done pretty much all you can reasonably do. You may be left or right of centre but that is where you are. As an example, the one thing 65% to 75% of hispanic Trump voters now express buyers remorse over is that when ICE came and took their friends, family, work mates etc they "Never expected them to come for me". How come? They were only looking for brown skinned people. You are brown skinned.  | |||
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"Be careful, VERY careful, of those that offer you everything you ever wanted without saying how they will acheive it. What Farage wants, like all politicians, is POWER. Power over you and me. What better way to acheive that than taking away our human rights? The ECHR exists primarily to protect the average citizen from the excesses of their Government. Do not hand that task to those whom present the greatest risk to ourselves. You know there is a little matter of a GE to be won, so he will need the support of the people to implement any of his plans? Democracy is what we are signed up to. George Carlin said "Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers" Least we forget, we had BREXIT and 14 years of Conservative rule. 80% of voters do not think they go on emotion. My new political party, the "Perfect Future Party" promises in its manifesto to stop all illegal migrants within 24 hours and deport those already here in a week. To reduce income tax to 5%, to implement 30 days of national holiday every year, to remove all tax from alcoholic drinks, hamburgers and crisps, increase the minimum wage to £30 per hour, remove all tax from petrol and diesel, cure all forms of cancer within 1 month and by the end of the first year eradicate homelessness. Who will vote first me? Come on. you know it makes sense.
It is perfectly acceptable to have a point of view that is different, however I do struggle to get behind people who think anyone who doesn't think their way is stupid.
The operative word there is THINK. If you consider what others say, run it through a BS and reality filter and reach a considered opinion, then you have done pretty much all you can reasonably do. You may be left or right of centre but that is where you are.
As an example, the one thing 65% to 75% of hispanic Trump voters now express buyers remorse over is that when ICE came and took their friends, family, work mates etc they "Never expected them to come for me". How come? They were only looking for brown skinned people. You are brown skinned. "In your opinion do you think Reform will win the next election. | |||
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" What’s happening and why? Tories are dead and Labour the government in name only Reform gathering momentum every day. " Looking forward to them being in power. | |||
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"They would need to win every seat outside of a metropolitan area to get close to that.. the “seat maths” just don’t add up… I broke it down for “buck” last time… let’s see if he gets it this time… 650mps….. Reform don’t compete in Northern Ireland, they will not win a single seat in Scotland or wales… 18mps in Northern Ireland, 57mps in Scotland, 32mps in wales So that is 107mps off the board, Reform won’t win a single seat in Greater London.. too multicultural for their liking… that’s another 75 seats off the board 182….. And that’s is without looking at places like Liverpool, Manchester, Sheffield, Leeds, Newcastle Bristol and Lib Dem’s South west stronghold Reform might grab a Mansfield, harder to grab Derby, or Nottingham, or Leicester There are not enough smaller places where reform would make up the difference … they would need to decimate both labour and the conservatives in the smaller towns Best they could hope for is to be a junior partner in a coalition.. but other than the tories, who would work with them? " Hmm let’s think. Should we trust expert pollsters who are predicting Reform winning X number of seats based on current data. Or should we believe some bloke on a swingers website whose every political prediction is totally wrong? Remind us where your polling expertise comes from again? | |||
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"They would need to win every seat outside of a metropolitan area to get close to that.. the “seat maths” just don’t add up… I broke it down for “buck” last time… let’s see if he gets it this time… 650mps….. Reform don’t compete in Northern Ireland, they will not win a single seat in Scotland or wales… 18mps in Northern Ireland, 57mps in Scotland, 32mps in wales So that is 107mps off the board, Reform won’t win a single seat in Greater London.. too multicultural for their liking… that’s another 75 seats off the board 182….. And that’s is without looking at places like Liverpool, Manchester, Sheffield, Leeds, Newcastle Bristol and Lib Dem’s South west stronghold Reform might grab a Mansfield, harder to grab Derby, or Nottingham, or Leicester There are not enough smaller places where reform would make up the difference … they would need to decimate both labour and the conservatives in the smaller towns Best they could hope for is to be a junior partner in a coalition.. but other than the tories, who would work with them? " I get where you are coming from but I think you are wrong. OK Northern Ireland is out of the picture and Scotland is usually barren ground for Reform. But even there you will have quite a split in the left wing vote. Labour, SNP, the Greens and maybe even Corbyn's Jezbollah or whatever he's going to call it. They will all be chasing the same voters. Remember it's FPTP not PR. Reform could just come through the middle in quite a few seats. Reform doesn't poll too badly in Wales and the above could also apply there. Let's see how the Welsh assembly election goes next year. On inner London I would agree but in some outer London seats Reform could pick up one or two. South West England is Lib Dem country but there could even be a surprise or two down there. As it stands Eastern England, Yorkshire, Lancashire, County Durham and much of the midlands is prime Reform country. There is a long way to go. It will be at least 3 and a half years before the next GE and to quote Harold Wilson "a week is a long time in politics". We will see. | |||
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"They would need to win every seat outside of a metropolitan area to get close to that.. the “seat maths” just don’t add up… I broke it down for “buck” last time… let’s see if he gets it this time… 650mps….. Reform don’t compete in Northern Ireland, they will not win a single seat in Scotland or wales… 18mps in Northern Ireland, 57mps in Scotland, 32mps in wales So that is 107mps off the board, Reform won’t win a single seat in Greater London.. too multicultural for their liking… that’s another 75 seats off the board 182….. And that’s is without looking at places like Liverpool, Manchester, Sheffield, Leeds, Newcastle Bristol and Lib Dem’s South west stronghold Reform might grab a Mansfield, harder to grab Derby, or Nottingham, or Leicester There are not enough smaller places where reform would make up the difference … they would need to decimate both labour and the conservatives in the smaller towns Best they could hope for is to be a junior partner in a coalition.. but other than the tories, who would work with them? Hmm let’s think. Should we trust expert pollsters who are predicting Reform winning X number of seats based on current data. Or should we believe some bloke on a swingers website whose every political prediction is totally wrong? Remind us where your polling expertise comes from again? " My polling expertise… okay.. let’s break down just 1 bit of what I said Reform won’t win a single seat in Scotland… Question… how many msp’s do reform have in the Scottish parliament? The answer is…1! And how do we know it is 1…. Because the person defected from the tories last week! Go and have a look at how many reforms representatives there are in the Scottish parliament, the Welsh assembly, the Greater London Assembly… I’ll let you go look it up! That is why I mentioned those four before anything else! What do you think man of Kent Nigel farage had to go all the way out to clacton to find a seat he could win! The percentage may be there, but reform will get crushed by first past the post! | |||
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"They would need to win every seat outside of a metropolitan area to get close to that.. the “seat maths” just don’t add up… I broke it down for “buck” last time… let’s see if he gets it this time… 650mps….. Reform don’t compete in Northern Ireland, they will not win a single seat in Scotland or wales… 18mps in Northern Ireland, 57mps in Scotland, 32mps in wales So that is 107mps off the board, Reform won’t win a single seat in Greater London.. too multicultural for their liking… that’s another 75 seats off the board 182….. And that’s is without looking at places like Liverpool, Manchester, Sheffield, Leeds, Newcastle Bristol and Lib Dem’s South west stronghold Reform might grab a Mansfield, harder to grab Derby, or Nottingham, or Leicester There are not enough smaller places where reform would make up the difference … they would need to decimate both labour and the conservatives in the smaller towns Best they could hope for is to be a junior partner in a coalition.. but other than the tories, who would work with them? Hmm let’s think. Should we trust expert pollsters who are predicting Reform winning X number of seats based on current data. Or should we believe some bloke on a swingers website whose every political prediction is totally wrong? Remind us where your polling expertise comes from again? My polling expertise… okay.. let’s break down just 1 bit of what I said Reform won’t win a single seat in Scotland… Question… how many msp’s do reform have in the Scottish parliament? The answer is…1! And how do we know it is 1…. Because the person defected from the tories last week! Go and have a look at how many reforms representatives there are in the Scottish parliament, the Welsh assembly, the Greater London Assembly… I’ll let you go look it up! That is why I mentioned those four before anything else! What do you think man of Kent Nigel farage had to go all the way out to clacton to find a seat he could win! The percentage may be there, but reform will get crushed by first past the post! " Farage will dominate the big 2 leaders to the point he will force change to their policies. | |||
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" Go and have a look at how many reforms representatives there are in the Scottish parliament, the Welsh assembly, the Greater London Assembly… I’ll let you go look it up. " None of those have had recent elections so it is a non argument. Reforms surge in the polls is a 2025 thing. Anything before that is irrelevant to the current situation. And as I said above FPTP could quite easily work in Reforms favour. | |||
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"They would need to win every seat outside of a metropolitan area to get close to that.. the “seat maths” just don’t add up… I broke it down for “buck” last time… let’s see if he gets it this time… 650mps….. Reform don’t compete in Northern Ireland, they will not win a single seat in Scotland or wales… 18mps in Northern Ireland, 57mps in Scotland, 32mps in wales So that is 107mps off the board, Reform won’t win a single seat in Greater London.. too multicultural for their liking… that’s another 75 seats off the board 182….. And that’s is without looking at places like Liverpool, Manchester, Sheffield, Leeds, Newcastle Bristol and Lib Dem’s South west stronghold Reform might grab a Mansfield, harder to grab Derby, or Nottingham, or Leicester There are not enough smaller places where reform would make up the difference … they would need to decimate both labour and the conservatives in the smaller towns Best they could hope for is to be a junior partner in a coalition.. but other than the tories, who would work with them? Hmm let’s think. Should we trust expert pollsters who are predicting Reform winning X number of seats based on current data. Or should we believe some bloke on a swingers website whose every political prediction is totally wrong? Remind us where your polling expertise comes from again? My polling expertise… okay.. let’s break down just 1 bit of what I said Reform won’t win a single seat in Scotland… Question… how many msp’s do reform have in the Scottish parliament? The answer is…1! And how do we know it is 1…. Because the person defected from the tories last week! Go and have a look at how many reforms representatives there are in the Scottish parliament, the Welsh assembly, the Greater London Assembly… I’ll let you go look it up! That is why I mentioned those four before anything else! What do you think man of Kent Nigel farage had to go all the way out to clacton to find a seat he could win! The percentage may be there, but reform will get crushed by first past the post! " That doesn’t answer my question. I have only cited data from reputable polling companies and their forecast of how that polling would translate into seats if the election were held today. There is of course no vote today. Who knows what is going to happen years from now. Certainly you don’t. You are giving your opinion. You are entitled to it, but you have no expertise in polling. If the polling companies say that based on today’s data the result would be somewhere between a Reform landslide and a hung parliament, then I’m not quite sure where you are coming from with your view that “Reform will get crushed by first past the post”. That clearly isn’t what the data and the analysis of it is saying. Your view just isn’t based on anything. | |||
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"They would need to win every seat outside of a metropolitan area to get close to that.. the “seat maths” just don’t add up… I broke it down for “buck” last time… let’s see if he gets it this time… 650mps….. Reform don’t compete in Northern Ireland, they will not win a single seat in Scotland or wales… 18mps in Northern Ireland, 57mps in Scotland, 32mps in wales So that is 107mps off the board, Reform won’t win a single seat in Greater London.. too multicultural for their liking… that’s another 75 seats off the board 182….. And that’s is without looking at places like Liverpool, Manchester, Sheffield, Leeds, Newcastle Bristol and Lib Dem’s South west stronghold Reform might grab a Mansfield, harder to grab Derby, or Nottingham, or Leicester There are not enough smaller places where reform would make up the difference … they would need to decimate both labour and the conservatives in the smaller towns Best they could hope for is to be a junior partner in a coalition.. but other than the tories, who would work with them? Hmm let’s think. Should we trust expert pollsters who are predicting Reform winning X number of seats based on current data. Or should we believe some bloke on a swingers website whose every political prediction is totally wrong? Remind us where your polling expertise comes from again? My polling expertise… okay.. let’s break down just 1 bit of what I said Reform won’t win a single seat in Scotland… Question… how many msp’s do reform have in the Scottish parliament? The answer is…1! And how do we know it is 1…. Because the person defected from the tories last week! Go and have a look at how many reforms representatives there are in the Scottish parliament, the Welsh assembly, the Greater London Assembly… I’ll let you go look it up! That is why I mentioned those four before anything else! What do you think man of Kent Nigel farage had to go all the way out to clacton to find a seat he could win! The percentage may be there, but reform will get crushed by first past the post! " Reform will win seats in the upcoming Scottish parliamentary elections. Because the Scotts are sick of SNP. Obviously we will have to see, but that is my cousins in Aberdeen are telling me. The SNP have lost all credibility, nobody trusts Labour now, and the Tories always come last. Reform candidates are being well received all over Scotland. | |||
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" Reform will win seats in the upcoming Scottish parliamentary elections. Because the Scotts are sick of SNP. Obviously we will have to see, but that is my cousins in Aberdeen are telling me. The SNP have lost all credibility, nobody trusts Labour now, and the Tories always come last. Reform candidates are being well received all over Scotland." Nigel Farage isn't particularly popular in Scotland. In fact, he's the least popular political leader there, with a score of 2.3 out of 10, according to a survey. To put that into perspective, Scottish Conservative leader Russell Findlay scored 3.1, and even the UK Prime Minister and First Minister scored higher than Farage. *Key Stats:* - *Farage's popularity score*: 2.3/10 - *Comparison to other leaders*: - *Russell Findlay (Scottish Conservative leader)*: 3.1/10 - *UK Prime Minister*: 1.9/10 (similar to Donald Trump) - *First Minister John Swinney*: 3.9/10 Farage's unpopularity in Scotland might be one reason why Reform UK, the party he leads, faces challenges in gaining widespread support in the country. Despite this, the party has seen a surge in support, with some polls indicating it could win around 17-18% of the vote in the next Scottish Parliament election ¹. | |||
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" Reform will win seats in the upcoming Scottish parliamentary elections. Because the Scotts are sick of SNP. Obviously we will have to see, but that is my cousins in Aberdeen are telling me. The SNP have lost all credibility, nobody trusts Labour now, and the Tories always come last. Reform candidates are being well received all over Scotland. Nigel Farage isn't particularly popular in Scotland. In fact, he's the least popular political leader there, with a score of 2.3 out of 10, according to a survey. To put that into perspective, Scottish Conservative leader Russell Findlay scored 3.1, and even the UK Prime Minister and First Minister scored higher than Farage. *Key Stats:* - *Farage's popularity score*: 2.3/10 - *Comparison to other leaders*: - *Russell Findlay (Scottish Conservative leader)*: 3.1/10 - *UK Prime Minister*: 1.9/10 (similar to Donald Trump) - *First Minister John Swinney*: 3.9/10 Farage's unpopularity in Scotland might be one reason why Reform UK, the party he leads, faces challenges in gaining widespread support in the country. Despite this, the party has seen a surge in support, with some polls indicating it could win around 17-18% of the vote in the next Scottish Parliament election ¹." Imagine if he offered another independence referendum for Scotland  | |||
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"They would need to win every seat outside of a metropolitan area to get close to that.. the “seat maths” just don’t add up… I broke it down for “buck” last time… let’s see if he gets it this time… 650mps….. Reform don’t compete in Northern Ireland, they will not win a single seat in Scotland or wales… 18mps in Northern Ireland, 57mps in Scotland, 32mps in wales So that is 107mps off the board, Reform won’t win a single seat in Greater London.. too multicultural for their liking… that’s another 75 seats off the board 182….. And that’s is without looking at places like Liverpool, Manchester, Sheffield, Leeds, Newcastle Bristol and Lib Dem’s South west stronghold Reform might grab a Mansfield, harder to grab Derby, or Nottingham, or Leicester There are not enough smaller places where reform would make up the difference … they would need to decimate both labour and the conservatives in the smaller towns Best they could hope for is to be a junior partner in a coalition.. but other than the tories, who would work with them? " I tend to agree that reform will not win the next GE. My reason is mainly that they are coming from to far behind in seats terms and that the polls may look promising now for reform but there is a long way to go yet. The slightly concerning thing is you made equally valid statements as to why trump would not win. | |||
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" Reform will win seats in the upcoming Scottish parliamentary elections. Because the Scotts are sick of SNP. Obviously we will have to see, but that is my cousins in Aberdeen are telling me. The SNP have lost all credibility, nobody trusts Labour now, and the Tories always come last. Reform candidates are being well received all over Scotland. Nigel Farage isn't particularly popular in Scotland. In fact, he's the least popular political leader there, with a score of 2.3 out of 10, according to a survey. To put that into perspective, Scottish Conservative leader Russell Findlay scored 3.1, and even the UK Prime Minister and First Minister scored higher than Farage. *Key Stats:* - *Farage's popularity score*: 2.3/10 - *Comparison to other leaders*: - *Russell Findlay (Scottish Conservative leader)*: 3.1/10 - *UK Prime Minister*: 1.9/10 (similar to Donald Trump) - *First Minister John Swinney*: 3.9/10 Farage's unpopularity in Scotland might be one reason why Reform UK, the party he leads, faces challenges in gaining widespread support in the country. Despite this, the party has seen a surge in support, with some polls indicating it could win around 17-18% of the vote in the next Scottish Parliament election ¹. Imagine if he offered another independence referendum for Scotland "Imagine they didn't want one  | |||
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"They would need to win every seat outside of a metropolitan area to get close to that.. the “seat maths” just don’t add up… I broke it down for “buck” last time… let’s see if he gets it this time… 650mps….. Reform don’t compete in Northern Ireland, they will not win a single seat in Scotland or wales… 18mps in Northern Ireland, 57mps in Scotland, 32mps in wales So that is 107mps off the board, Reform won’t win a single seat in Greater London.. too multicultural for their liking… that’s another 75 seats off the board 182….. And that’s is without looking at places like Liverpool, Manchester, Sheffield, Leeds, Newcastle Bristol and Lib Dem’s South west stronghold Reform might grab a Mansfield, harder to grab Derby, or Nottingham, or Leicester There are not enough smaller places where reform would make up the difference … they would need to decimate both labour and the conservatives in the smaller towns Best they could hope for is to be a junior partner in a coalition.. but other than the tories, who would work with them? I tend to agree that reform will not win the next GE. My reason is mainly that they are coming from to far behind in seats terms and that the polls may look promising now for reform but there is a long way to go yet. The slightly concerning thing is you made equally valid statements as to why trump would not win." Reform vote is just about the boats. Fix that, half the problems have gone. | |||
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"They would need to win every seat outside of a metropolitan area to get close to that.. the “seat maths” just don’t add up… I broke it down for “buck” last time… let’s see if he gets it this time… 650mps….. Reform don’t compete in Northern Ireland, they will not win a single seat in Scotland or wales… 18mps in Northern Ireland, 57mps in Scotland, 32mps in wales So that is 107mps off the board, Reform won’t win a single seat in Greater London.. too multicultural for their liking… that’s another 75 seats off the board 182….. And that’s is without looking at places like Liverpool, Manchester, Sheffield, Leeds, Newcastle Bristol and Lib Dem’s South west stronghold Reform might grab a Mansfield, harder to grab Derby, or Nottingham, or Leicester There are not enough smaller places where reform would make up the difference … they would need to decimate both labour and the conservatives in the smaller towns Best they could hope for is to be a junior partner in a coalition.. but other than the tories, who would work with them? I tend to agree that reform will not win the next GE. My reason is mainly that they are coming from to far behind in seats terms and that the polls may look promising now for reform but there is a long way to go yet. The slightly concerning thing is you made equally valid statements as to why trump would not win. Reform vote is just about the boats. Fix that, half the problems have gone. " I would agree with that. Unfortunately fixing that issue is what successive governments have promised but then failed to deliver | |||
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"They would need to win every seat outside of a metropolitan area to get close to that.. the “seat maths” just don’t add up… I broke it down for “buck” last time… let’s see if he gets it this time… 650mps….. Reform don’t compete in Northern Ireland, they will not win a single seat in Scotland or wales… 18mps in Northern Ireland, 57mps in Scotland, 32mps in wales So that is 107mps off the board, Reform won’t win a single seat in Greater London.. too multicultural for their liking… that’s another 75 seats off the board 182….. And that’s is without looking at places like Liverpool, Manchester, Sheffield, Leeds, Newcastle Bristol and Lib Dem’s South west stronghold Reform might grab a Mansfield, harder to grab Derby, or Nottingham, or Leicester There are not enough smaller places where reform would make up the difference … they would need to decimate both labour and the conservatives in the smaller towns Best they could hope for is to be a junior partner in a coalition.. but other than the tories, who would work with them? I tend to agree that reform will not win the next GE. My reason is mainly that they are coming from to far behind in seats terms and that the polls may look promising now for reform but there is a long way to go yet. The slightly concerning thing is you made equally valid statements as to why trump would not win. Reform vote is just about the boats. Fix that, half the problems have gone. " You really think small boats are half the problem then you real have a problem. | |||
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That’s where my money is on as the most likely outcome currently .
But as with all politics it’s all just our opinion man
It’s going to be a bouncy decade that’s a certainty , It’s inevitable there is going to be lots of violence / riots etc going forward who ever wins a GE
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"Latest BMGResearch poll. Reform record high. RFM: 35% (+3) LAB: 20% (-3) CON: 17% (-1) LDM: 13% (=) GRN: 7% (-1)" It could be 4 years until a general election, Farage could be sipping beer on mars with Elon musk | |||
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