FabSwingers.com forum: Labour immigration failure

By (user no longer on site) OP
36 weeks ago

According to recent YouGov polling, 71% of the public think that Labour is failing in its policies on hotels for illegal immigrants.

Even 56% of Labour supporters think the same.

Meanwhile illegals arriving by boat under Labour are up 46% on a year ago.

Labour says it’s going to speed up the “asylum” process, allegedly to deport people more quickly, but we know in reality that this will just involve nodding all of them through and claiming that it has “reduced the backlog”.

This is no great surprise that Labour is failing dismally in another policy area. It is out of its depth generally.

But as the illegal migration crisis seems to be escalating out of control, what can Labour do to rescue the situation (aside from arresting people who complain and calling everyone racist)?

It seems that Labour is out of ideas and lacks the inclination to do anything about the problem. Not surprising that the public is so angry.

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By (user no longer on site)
36 weeks ago

Interesting!

Daily Express.

Explains a lot.

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By *ingdomNightTimePleasuresMan
36 weeks ago

nearby

But as the illegal migration crisis seems to be escalating out of control, what can Labour do to rescue the situation (aside from arresting people who complain and calling everyone racist)?

Put Israeli navy in the channel, they will be paddling those dingy’s back to France at a pace.

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By *I TwoCouple
36 weeks ago

near enough

"According to recent YouGov polling, 71% of the public think that Labour is failing in its policies on hotels for illegal immigrants.

Even 56% of Labour supporters think the same.

Meanwhile illegals arriving by boat under Labour are up 46% on a year ago.

This is no great surprise that Labour is failing dismally in another policy area. It is out of its depth generally.

But as the illegal migration crisis seems to be escalating out of control, what can Labour do to rescue the situation (aside from arresting people who complain and calling everyone racist)?

It seems that Labour is out of ideas and lacks the inclination to do anything about the problem. Not surprising that the public is so angry."

Short of slaughtering them at sea what's your thoughts ?

No UK government can stop people getting in a boat in France and crossing the channel.

They're trying to send them back

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By *otMe66Man
36 weeks ago

Terra Firma

"According to recent YouGov polling, 71% of the public think that Labour is failing in its policies on hotels for illegal immigrants.

Even 56% of Labour supporters think the same.

Meanwhile illegals arriving by boat under Labour are up 46% on a year ago.

This is no great surprise that Labour is failing dismally in another policy area. It is out of its depth generally.

But as the illegal migration crisis seems to be escalating out of control, what can Labour do to rescue the situation (aside from arresting people who complain and calling everyone racist)?

It seems that Labour is out of ideas and lacks the inclination to do anything about the problem. Not surprising that the public is so angry.

Short of slaughtering them at sea what's your thoughts ?

No UK government can stop people getting in a boat in France and crossing the channel.

They're trying to send them back "

The government can't stop them getting in small boats but they can put strategies in place to make the journey by small boat worthless for those that take it.

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By *I TwoCouple
36 weeks ago

near enough

"According to recent YouGov polling, 71% of the public think that Labour is failing in its policies on hotels for illegal immigrants.

Even 56% of Labour supporters think the same.

Meanwhile illegals arriving by boat under Labour are up 46% on a year ago.

This is no great surprise that Labour is failing dismally in another policy area. It is out of its depth generally.

But as the illegal migration crisis seems to be escalating out of control, what can Labour do to rescue the situation (aside from arresting people who complain and calling everyone racist)?

It seems that Labour is out of ideas and lacks the inclination to do anything about the problem. Not surprising that the public is so angry.

Short of slaughtering them at sea what's your thoughts ?

No UK government can stop people getting in a boat in France and crossing the channel.

They're trying to send them back

The government can't stop them getting in small boats but they can put strategies in place to make the journey by small boat worthless for those that take it.

Isn't that what they're trying to do ?

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By *I TwoCouple
36 weeks ago

near enough

"In the year ending June 2025, there were 10,652 asylum-related returns, 31% more than in the year ending June 2024"

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By *otMe66Man
36 weeks ago

Terra Firma

"According to recent YouGov polling, 71% of the public think that Labour is failing in its policies on hotels for illegal immigrants.

Even 56% of Labour supporters think the same.

Meanwhile illegals arriving by boat under Labour are up 46% on a year ago.

This is no great surprise that Labour is failing dismally in another policy area. It is out of its depth generally.

But as the illegal migration crisis seems to be escalating out of control, what can Labour do to rescue the situation (aside from arresting people who complain and calling everyone racist)?

It seems that Labour is out of ideas and lacks the inclination to do anything about the problem. Not surprising that the public is so angry.

Short of slaughtering them at sea what's your thoughts ?

No UK government can stop people getting in a boat in France and crossing the channel.

They're trying to send them back

The government can't stop them getting in small boats but they can put strategies in place to make the journey by small boat worthless for those that take it.

Isn't that what they're trying to do ?

No, is the answer, because if they were the boats would be slowing and stopping.

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By *ggdrasil66Man
36 weeks ago

Saltdean

I’m absolutely not in favour of killing them. Just making it known that coming here illegally is not worth it. Arrest and detain them upon arrival, then, when found guilty of coming here illegally by a court of law, repatriate them, to their country of origin if possible. If their human rights would be abused in their homeland, we should find them somewhere else. There are many countries in the world that actually have a labour shortage.

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By (user no longer on site)
36 weeks ago

"According to recent YouGov polling, 71% of the public think that Labour is failing in its policies on hotels for illegal immigrants.

Even 56% of Labour supporters think the same.

Meanwhile illegals arriving by boat under Labour are up 46% on a year ago.

This is no great surprise that Labour is failing dismally in another policy area. It is out of its depth generally.

But as the illegal migration crisis seems to be escalating out of control, what can Labour do to rescue the situation (aside from arresting people who complain and calling everyone racist)?

It seems that Labour is out of ideas and lacks the inclination to do anything about the problem. Not surprising that the public is so angry."

before Labour got in I said on this forum if labour say the same thing that the conservatives said which was look we have no money and it is their fault, that I would be out, they said it now I'm out.

They are corrupt, lying, failing party.

And I am sick of politicians doing what they like and getting away with it.

As for immigration, because they keep on coming, and the governments failure to tackle it, I think this must be suiting someone and theirs some kind of conspiracy to keep these boats going.

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By *I TwoCouple
36 weeks ago

near enough

"According to recent YouGov polling, 71% of the public think that Labour is failing in its policies on hotels for illegal immigrants.

Even 56% of Labour supporters think the same.

Meanwhile illegals arriving by boat under Labour are up 46% on a year ago.

This is no great surprise that Labour is failing dismally in another policy area. It is out of its depth generally.

But as the illegal migration crisis seems to be escalating out of control, what can Labour do to rescue the situation (aside from arresting people who complain and calling everyone racist)?

It seems that Labour is out of ideas and lacks the inclination to do anything about the problem. Not surprising that the public is so angry.

Short of slaughtering them at sea what's your thoughts ?

No UK government can stop people getting in a boat in France and crossing the channel.

They're trying to send them back

The government can't stop them getting in small boats but they can put strategies in place to make the journey by small boat worthless for those that take it.

Isn't that what they're trying to do ?

No, is the answer, because if they were the boats would be slowing and stopping."

So how does the UK govt suddenly stop people getting in boats and crossing the channel ?

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By *ools and the brainCouple
36 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.

"According to recent YouGov polling, 71% of the public think that Labour is failing in its policies on hotels for illegal immigrants.

Even 56% of Labour supporters think the same.

Meanwhile illegals arriving by boat under Labour are up 46% on a year ago.

This is no great surprise that Labour is failing dismally in another policy area. It is out of its depth generally.

But as the illegal migration crisis seems to be escalating out of control, what can Labour do to rescue the situation (aside from arresting people who complain and calling everyone racist)?

It seems that Labour is out of ideas and lacks the inclination to do anything about the problem. Not surprising that the public is so angry.

Short of slaughtering them at sea what's your thoughts ?

No UK government can stop people getting in a boat in France and crossing the channel.

They're trying to send them back

The government can't stop them getting in small boats but they can put strategies in place to make the journey by small boat worthless for those that take it.

Isn't that what they're trying to do ?

No, is the answer, because if they were the boats would be slowing and stopping.

So how does the UK govt suddenly stop people getting in boats and crossing the channel ?"

Find out who's supplying the gang's with the boats and buy all their stock at source.

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By *anifestoMan
36 weeks ago

Does the UK have a returns agreement with the Taliban and who ever is in charge of Iran at the . moment?

"I’m absolutely not in favour of killing them. Just making it known that coming here illegally is not worth it. Arrest and detain them upon arrival, then, when found guilty of coming here illegally by a court of law, repatriate them, to their country of origin if possible. If their human rights would be abused in their homeland, we should find them somewhere else. There are many countries in the world that actually have a labour shortage."

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By *ingdomNightTimePleasuresMan
36 weeks ago

nearby

United Nations predictions are 1.2Bn migrants entering Europe by 2070/80

We’ve seen nothing yet.

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By *I TwoCouple
36 weeks ago

near enough

"According to recent YouGov polling, 71% of the public think that Labour is failing in its policies on hotels for illegal immigrants.

Even 56% of Labour supporters think the same.

Meanwhile illegals arriving by boat under Labour are up 46% on a year ago.

This is no great surprise that Labour is failing dismally in another policy area. It is out of its depth generally.

But as the illegal migration crisis seems to be escalating out of control, what can Labour do to rescue the situation (aside from arresting people who complain and calling everyone racist)?

It seems that Labour is out of ideas and lacks the inclination to do anything about the problem. Not surprising that the public is so angry.

Short of slaughtering them at sea what's your thoughts ?

No UK government can stop people getting in a boat in France and crossing the channel.

They're trying to send them back

The government can't stop them getting in small boats but they can put strategies in place to make the journey by small boat worthless for those that take it.

Isn't that what they're trying to do ?

No, is the answer, because if they were the boats would be slowing and stopping.

So how does the UK govt suddenly stop people getting in boats and crossing the channel ?

Find out who's supplying the gang's with the boats and buy all their stock at source.

Isn't that one strand of what they're doing ?

I dont suppose the gangs are on Instagram or in the UK so they will not be found in a month or even a year.

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By *exy_HornyCouple
36 weeks ago

Leigh

So how does the UK govt suddenly stop people getting in boats and crossing the channel ?"

Make it not worth their while coming here.

Enforce current laws, making it difficult for them to work illegally and to live under the radar. Don’t allow them to bring family ever if they are accepted as genuine asylum cases. Repeal the human rights act brought in by slimy Blair.

Ideally lock the illegal immigrants up in detention camps until they are processed. Only basic facilities necessary for life.

Strictly interpret the asylum criteria, and stop spurious appeals. Religion, sexuality etc. are a choice and are not good reasons for granting asylum. Assume that they are economic migrants unless proven otherwise.

Automatically disallow asylum claims if the person has arrived on a valid visa. They will have lied to get that visa. Same for arrivals on small boats.

Deport them to their country of origin in most cases. Few countries are so unsafe for the general population that they can’t be deported. Sanction countries that don’t accept the returns.

Etc…

But this and previous governments won’t do it. This one because they rely on the immigrant vote, previous governments because they were weak and divided.

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By *I TwoCouple
36 weeks ago

near enough

So how does the UK govt suddenly stop people getting in boats and crossing the channel ?

Make it not worth their while coming here.

Ideally lock the illegal immigrants up in detention camps until they are processed. Only basic facilities necessary for life.

Automatically disallow asylum claims if the person has arrived on a valid visa. They will have lied to get that visa. Same for arrivals on small boats.

Deport them to their country of origin in most cases. Few countries are so unsafe for the general population that they can’t be deported. Sanction countries that don’t accept the returns.

Etc…

But this and previous governments won’t do it. This one because they rely on the immigrant vote, previous governments because they were weak and divided.

Are illegal immigrants on the electoral roll ?

Is this as soon as they land ?

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By *exy_HornyCouple
36 weeks ago

Leigh

So how does the UK govt suddenly stop people getting in boats and crossing the channel ?

Make it not worth their while coming here.

Ideally lock the illegal immigrants up in detention camps until they are processed. Only basic facilities necessary for life.

Automatically disallow asylum claims if the person has arrived on a valid visa. They will have lied to get that visa. Same for arrivals on small boats.

Deport them to their country of origin in most cases. Few countries are so unsafe for the general population that they can’t be deported. Sanction countries that don’t accept the returns.

Etc…

But this and previous governments won’t do it. This one because they rely on the immigrant vote, previous governments because they were weak and divided.

Are illegal immigrants on the electoral roll ?

Is this as soon as they land ?"

“Immigrant communities vote” is perhaps more accurate.

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By (user no longer on site)
36 weeks ago

So how does the UK govt suddenly stop people getting in boats and crossing the channel ?

Make it not worth their while coming here.

Ideally lock the illegal immigrants up in detention camps until they are processed. Only basic facilities necessary for life.

Automatically disallow asylum claims if the person has arrived on a valid visa. They will have lied to get that visa. Same for arrivals on small boats.

Deport them to their country of origin in most cases. Few countries are so unsafe for the general population that they can’t be deported. Sanction countries that don’t accept the returns.

Etc…

But this and previous governments won’t do it. This one because they rely on the immigrant vote, previous governments because they were weak and divided.

"sexuality etc. are a choice "

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By *otMe66Man
36 weeks ago

Terra Firma

"According to recent YouGov polling, 71% of the public think that Labour is failing in its policies on hotels for illegal immigrants.

Even 56% of Labour supporters think the same.

Meanwhile illegals arriving by boat under Labour are up 46% on a year ago.

This is no great surprise that Labour is failing dismally in another policy area. It is out of its depth generally.

But as the illegal migration crisis seems to be escalating out of control, what can Labour do to rescue the situation (aside from arresting people who complain and calling everyone racist)?

It seems that Labour is out of ideas and lacks the inclination to do anything about the problem. Not surprising that the public is so angry.

Short of slaughtering them at sea what's your thoughts ?

No UK government can stop people getting in a boat in France and crossing the channel.

They're trying to send them back

The government can't stop them getting in small boats but they can put strategies in place to make the journey by small boat worthless for those that take it.

Isn't that what they're trying to do ?

No, is the answer, because if they were the boats would be slowing and stopping.

So how does the UK govt suddenly stop people getting in boats and crossing the channel ?"

provide a safe route in France, make entry by small boat illegal under any circumstances, and negotiate a deal with France that allows same day returns to the safe route.

This will remove the value in the small boat crossings and helps France limit the amount of transient migrants arriving in the country to to cross the Channel.

We need to understand local council capacity and manage the safe route to our capabilities.

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By *I TwoCouple
36 weeks ago

near enough

So how does the UK govt suddenly stop people getting in boats and crossing the channel ?

Make it not worth their while coming here.

Ideally lock the illegal immigrants up in detention camps until they are processed. Only basic facilities necessary for life.

Automatically disallow asylum claims if the person has arrived on a valid visa. They will have lied to get that visa. Same for arrivals on small boats.

Deport them to their country of origin in most cases. Few countries are so unsafe for the general population that they can’t be deported. Sanction countries that don’t accept the returns.

Etc…

But this and previous governments won’t do it. This one because they rely on the immigrant vote, previous governments because they were weak and divided.

Are illegal immigrants on the electoral roll ?

Is this as soon as they land ?

“Immigrant communities vote” is perhaps more accurate."

Are the stats available for that ?

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By *ggdrasil66Man
36 weeks ago

Saltdean

So how does the UK govt suddenly stop people getting in boats and crossing the channel ?

Make it not worth their while coming here.

Ideally lock the illegal immigrants up in detention camps until they are processed. Only basic facilities necessary for life.

Automatically disallow asylum claims if the person has arrived on a valid visa. They will have lied to get that visa. Same for arrivals on small boats.

Deport them to their country of origin in most cases. Few countries are so unsafe for the general population that they can’t be deported. Sanction countries that don’t accept the returns.

Etc…

But this and previous governments won’t do it. This one because they rely on the immigrant vote, previous governments because they were weak and divided.

Sense at last! What the bleeding hearts mob fail to admit, is that the UK is the number one destination for so called ‘asylum seekers.’ The reason for this is that we are such a soft touch. Hotel rooms, spending money, free health care, free iPhones, they live in the lap of luxury. Then there are the little mopeds they use to illegally work delivering take aways and what not.

There needs to be a reality check, we can’t afford this. It’s not about human rights, it’s about people coming here, because they are allowed to take the piss. It’s not even their fault, it’s the enablers in Westminster’s fault.

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By *arry and MegsCouple
36 weeks ago

Ipswich

So how does the UK govt suddenly stop people getting in boats and crossing the channel ?

Make it not worth their while coming here.

Ideally lock the illegal immigrants up in detention camps until they are processed. Only basic facilities necessary for life.

Automatically disallow asylum claims if the person has arrived on a valid visa. They will have lied to get that visa. Same for arrivals on small boats.

Deport them to their country of origin in most cases. Few countries are so unsafe for the general population that they can’t be deported. Sanction countries that don’t accept the returns.

Etc…

But this and previous governments won’t do it. This one because they rely on the immigrant vote, previous governments because they were weak and divided.

Was this luxury introduced by Starmer & Co ?

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By *ougarAndCub2025Couple
36 weeks ago

Aylesbury

"According to recent YouGov polling, 71% of the public think that Labour is failing in its policies on hotels for illegal immigrants.

Even 56% of Labour supporters think the same.

Meanwhile illegals arriving by boat under Labour are up 46% on a year ago.

This is no great surprise that Labour is failing dismally in another policy area. It is out of its depth generally.

But as the illegal migration crisis seems to be escalating out of control, what can Labour do to rescue the situation (aside from arresting people who complain and calling everyone racist)?

It seems that Labour is out of ideas and lacks the inclination to do anything about the problem. Not surprising that the public is so angry.

Short of slaughtering them at sea what's your thoughts ?

No UK government can stop people getting in a boat in France and crossing the channel.

They're trying to send them back

The government can't stop them getting in small boats but they can put strategies in place to make the journey by small boat worthless for those that take it.

Isn't that what they're trying to do ?

No, is the answer, because if they were the boats would be slowing and stopping.

So how does the UK govt suddenly stop people getting in boats and crossing the channel ?

provide a safe route in France, make entry by small boat illegal under any circumstances, and negotiate a deal with France that allows same day returns to the safe route.

This will remove the value in the small boat crossings and helps France limit the amount of transient migrants arriving in the country to to cross the Channel.

We need to understand local council capacity and manage the safe route to our capabilities.

Why would France agree to such deal? From their point of view, it is transient and the UK is dealing with rejected asylum seekers. With your solution, France should take the risk and what would it take for France to agree? You can give France a lot of money and what if that a lot of money is more than the one you are spending here?

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By *he Flat CapsCouple
36 weeks ago

Pontypool

Try reading some research by the Migration Observatory. UK is Not the number one destination.

It most definitely is about human rights.

Maybe some people in the politics forum should spend a month living as a newly arrived asylum seeker.

But that still wouldn't be a meaningful experience as they wouldn't have the fear of being sent back to a country that will persecute them.

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple
36 weeks ago

Border of London

Why would France agree to such deal? "

The thinking might go like this: They're only in France to get to the UK. Take the UK off the table and they go straight to other countries, such as Germany/Sweden.

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By *anifestoMan
36 weeks ago

Was it The sun or the express you copied and pasted this bollocks from?

" Hotel rooms, spending money, free health care, free iPhones, they live in the lap of luxury. Then there are the little mopeds they use to illegally work delivering take aways and what not.

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By (user no longer on site)
36 weeks ago

So how does the UK govt suddenly stop people getting in boats and crossing the channel ?

Make it not worth their while coming here.

Ideally lock the illegal immigrants up in detention camps until they are processed. Only basic facilities necessary for life.

Automatically disallow asylum claims if the person has arrived on a valid visa. They will have lied to get that visa. Same for arrivals on small boats.

Deport them to their country of origin in most cases. Few countries are so unsafe for the general population that they can’t be deported. Sanction countries that don’t accept the returns.

Etc…

But this and previous governments won’t do it. This one because they rely on the immigrant vote, previous governments because they were weak and divided.

Sense at last! "

Nope, it's utter nonsense, just like all the other anti-immigrant rants on here... And like ...

What the bleeding hearts mob fail to admit, is that the UK is the number one destination for so called ‘asylum seekers.’

...that

The reason for this is that we are such a soft touch. Hotel rooms, spending money, free health care, free iPhones, they live in the lap of luxury. Then there are the little mopeds they use to illegally work delivering take aways and what not.

Only on GBNews. Not in the real world.

Imagine if your anger was directed at actual real issues. Instead of brown people in boats.

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By *ougarAndCub2025Couple
36 weeks ago

Aylesbury

Why would France agree to such deal?

The thinking might go like this: They're only in France to get to the UK. Take the UK off the table and they go straight to other countries, such as Germany/Sweden."

One might argue that solution is the end of the route and an incentive to stay in France, increasing their asylum seekers and immigration

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By *anifestoMan
36 weeks ago

I'll post again the number of asylum seekers per country in 2024

Way below Spain, Germany, Italy and France.

Country | Total Number | Number per Thousand

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Cyprus | 6,800 | 7.2

Greece | 73,688 | 6.6

Spain | 165,767 | 3.4

Germany | 237,314 | 2.9

Italy | 158,867 | 2.5

France | 158,730 | 2.0

UK | 108,138 | 1.6

Source: https://www.infomigrants.net/en/post/63198/asylum-seekers-in-the-eu-six-things-to-know-about-2024-report

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By (user no longer on site)
36 weeks ago

"I'll post again the number of asylum seekers per country in 2024

Way below Spain, Germany, Italy and France.

Country | Total Number | Number per Thousand

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Cyprus | 6,800 | 7.2

Greece | 73,688 | 6.6

Spain | 165,767 | 3.4

Germany | 237,314 | 2.9

Italy | 158,867 | 2.5

France | 158,730 | 2.0

UK | 108,138 | 1.6

Source: https://www.infomigrants.net/en/post/63198/asylum-seekers-in-the-eu-six-things-to-know-about-2024-report"

But we left the EU to be in charge of our own destiny. If the EU are happy with that level of illegal migration fair enough. But why must we also?

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By *anifestoMan
36 weeks ago

Also see

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/08/23/why-spains-economy-is-doing-so-well.html

Immigration into Spain is cited as a driver of the economy. Migrants are taking the low hanging jobs in the tourism sector and the Spanish are moving up the value chain. Plus they realise with their aging population and declining birthrates someone will need to work to pay pensions and wipe the butts of the older people.

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By (user no longer on site)
36 weeks ago

But we left the EU to be in charge of our own destiny. "

Lolz.

Comedy post of the day.

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By *ggdrasil66Man
36 weeks ago

Saltdean

I don’t have to copy paste, that is because I’m capable of independent thoughts. Not just following politically correct bollocks, and impressing all the libtards…

"Was it The sun or the express you copied and pasted this bollocks from?

Hotel rooms, spending money, free health care, free iPhones, they live in the lap of luxury. Then there are the little mopeds they use to illegally work delivering take aways and what not.

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By (user no longer on site)
36 weeks ago

"I don’t have to copy paste, that is because I’m capable of independent thoughts. Not just following politically correct bollocks, and impressing all the libtards…

Was it The sun or the express you copied and pasted this bollocks from?

Hotel rooms, spending money, free health care, free iPhones, they live in the lap of luxury. Then there are the little mopeds they use to illegally work delivering take aways and what not.

"I’m capable of independent thoughts"

Sorry other guy, your comedy post of the day has already been trumped.

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By *anifestoMan
36 weeks ago

Didn't the Johnston sign a deal with the EU that left the door open for this? Ask him

"But we left the EU to be in charge of our own destiny. If the EU are happy with that level of illegal migration fair enough. But why must we also?"

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By (user no longer on site)
36 weeks ago

But we left the EU to be in charge of our own destiny.

Lolz.

Comedy post of the day.

Remember 'sovereignty'? Memory going? Tut, tut.

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By (user no longer on site)
36 weeks ago

But we left the EU to be in charge of our own destiny.

Lolz.

Comedy post of the day.

Remember 'sovereignty'? Memory going? Tut, tut."

No I remember, people definitely thought that.

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By (user no longer on site)
36 weeks ago

But we left the EU to be in charge of our own destiny.

Lolz.

Comedy post of the day.

Remember 'sovereignty'? Memory going? Tut, tut.

No I remember, people definitely thought that.

Well then, let's get on with it. If Starmer doesn't, Farage might as well be choosing the new wallpaper for No.10 now.

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By *anifestoMan
36 weeks ago

Okay... Let's break this down

Do you know how much an asylum seeker gets per week if

A) they're living in independent accommodation

And

B) if they're housed in a hotel or Have other accommodation with meals provided

Let me have your best guess even

"I don’t have to copy paste, that is because I’m capable of independent thoughts. Not just following politically correct bollocks, and impressing all the libtards…

Was it The sun or the express you copied and pasted this bollocks from?

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By *ggdrasil66Man
36 weeks ago

Saltdean

"I don’t have to copy paste, that is because I’m capable of independent thoughts. Not just following politically correct bollocks, and impressing all the libtards…

Was it The sun or the express you copied and pasted this bollocks from?

Hotel rooms, spending money, free health care, free iPhones, they live in the lap of luxury. Then there are the little mopeds they use to illegally work delivering take aways and what not.

"I’m capable of independent thoughts"

Sorry other guy, your comedy post of the day has already been trumped."

Your posts would be comedy gold, if it wasn’t for the fact that you really think you are right, about anything.

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36 weeks ago

But we left the EU to be in charge of our own destiny.

Lolz.

Comedy post of the day.

Remember 'sovereignty'? Memory going? Tut, tut.

No I remember, people definitely thought that.

Well then, let's get on with it. If Starmer doesn't, Farage might as well be choosing the new wallpaper for No.10 now."

Get on with what? We lost sovereignty, we have to comply with EU regulations to trade there. But we gave up our seat at the decision making table.

But sure let's get back to the topic of more panic and misinformation about immigrants.

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36 weeks ago

"I don’t have to copy paste, that is because I’m capable of independent thoughts. Not just following politically correct bollocks, and impressing all the libtards…

Was it The sun or the express you copied and pasted this bollocks from?

Hotel rooms, spending money, free health care, free iPhones, they live in the lap of luxury. Then there are the little mopeds they use to illegally work delivering take aways and what not.

"I’m capable of independent thoughts"

Sorry other guy, your comedy post of the day has already been trumped.

Your posts would be comedy gold, if it wasn’t for the fact that you really think you are right, about anything."

I mean you parrot far right misinformation and absolute bollocks that can be debunked in seconds. And yet think you're independently thinking. It's amazing really.

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By *ggdrasil66Man
36 weeks ago

Saltdean

"I don’t have to copy paste, that is because I’m capable of independent thoughts. Not just following politically correct bollocks, and impressing all the libtards…

Was it The sun or the express you copied and pasted this bollocks from?

Hotel rooms, spending money, free health care, free iPhones, they live in the lap of luxury. Then there are the little mopeds they use to illegally work delivering take aways and what not.

"I’m capable of independent thoughts"

Sorry other guy, your comedy post of the day has already been trumped.

Your posts would be comedy gold, if it wasn’t for the fact that you really think you are right, about anything.

I mean you parrot far right misinformation and absolute bollocks that can be debunked in seconds. And yet think you're independently thinking. It's amazing really."

So fake asylum seekers don’t come here and get extra special treatment at our expense then? Oh and you can easily prove this? Must be you copy pasting rubbish posted by your fellow travellers methinks.

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By *ostindreamsMan
36 weeks ago

London

Starmer got into power saying that smashing the gangs was the solution to the problem. It never was. Priti Patel was already posting videos on twitter about the boat gangs they have busted when she was the home minister. It was never going to work. As with most other European politicians, instead of fixing the asylum framework, he is trying to find some way around it, which doesn't work.

This means only one thing. An easy win for Farage.

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By *he Flat CapsCouple
36 weeks ago

Pontypool

"I don’t have to copy paste, that is because I’m capable of independent thoughts. Not just following politically correct bollocks, and impressing all the libtards…

Was it The sun or the express you copied and pasted this bollocks from?

Hotel rooms, spending money, free health care, free iPhones, they live in the lap of luxury. Then there are the little mopeds they use to illegally work delivering take aways and what not.

"I’m capable of independent thoughts"

Sorry other guy, your comedy post of the day has already been trumped.

Your posts would be comedy gold, if it wasn’t for the fact that you really think you are right, about anything.

I mean you parrot far right misinformation and absolute bollocks that can be debunked in seconds. And yet think you're independently thinking. It's amazing really.

So fake asylum seekers don’t come here and get extra special treatment at our expense then? Oh and you can easily prove this? "

Yes.

https://fullfact.org/immigration/former-employee-hotel-asylum-support-mobile-phones/

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36 weeks ago

"I don’t have to copy paste, that is because I’m capable of independent thoughts. Not just following politically correct bollocks, and impressing all the libtards…

Was it The sun or the express you copied and pasted this bollocks from?

Hotel rooms, spending money, free health care, free iPhones, they live in the lap of luxury. Then there are the little mopeds they use to illegally work delivering take aways and what not.

"I’m capable of independent thoughts"

Sorry other guy, your comedy post of the day has already been trumped.

Your posts would be comedy gold, if it wasn’t for the fact that you really think you are right, about anything.

I mean you parrot far right misinformation and absolute bollocks that can be debunked in seconds. And yet think you're independently thinking. It's amazing really.

"Hotel rooms, spending money, free health care, free iPhones, they live in the lap of luxury. Then there are the little mopeds they use to illegally work delivering take aways and what not."

Utter bollocks.

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By *anifestoMan
36 weeks ago

Fake or genuine they all get the same allowance. I'll tell you what they get:

IF they're put in catered accommodation (one of these five star places) they get £8.86 per week.

Or if you like £1.27 per day

Source | https://migrationpartnership.org.uk/asylum-support-rates-from-january-2024/

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By *ctionSandwichCouple
36 weeks ago

Newcastle under Lyme

The Conservatives are very much the same. Some establishment entities think that more people, regardless of who and where they come from is better. That's fair enough, but not if the system itself is run by unaccountable idiots.

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By *ggdrasil66Man
36 weeks ago

Saltdean

So many websites, all of which are definitely proving facts! I recently read what they admit to on a House of Lords website. Some of it is actually believable, but it’s still just text on an internet site.

https://lordslibrary.parliament.uk/asylum-accommodation-support-use-of-hotels/#heading-1

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36 weeks ago

"So many websites, all of which are definitely proving facts! I recently read what they admit to on a House of Lords website. Some of it is actually believable, but it’s still just text on an internet site.

https://lordslibrary.parliament.uk/asylum-accommodation-support-use-of-hotels/#heading-1"

This doesn't say anything about iPhones, luxury or any other the other utter shite that you posted.

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By *ex MexicoMan
36 weeks ago

North West

Oh look, yet another thread for the gammon to paste full of cookie-cutter paranoid xenophobic hysteria.

Anyone fancy a game of bigot bingo?

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By *anifestoMan
36 weeks ago

Don't forget about the scooters Johnny and the 24/7 medical care

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By *he Flat CapsCouple
36 weeks ago

Pontypool

https://lordslibrary.parliament.uk/asylum-accommodation-support-use-of-hotels/#heading-1"

It's not really defending your stance though.

Basically, the biggest cost in asylum is the accommodation. That doesn't mean room service. It means somewhere to sleep. They're not getting smart phones, they're not living in the lap of luxury.

Try meeting a few asylum seekers, talk to them. Find out what it's like. That's not words written on a website.

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36 weeks ago

"Don't forget about the scooters Johnny and the 24/7 medical care"

I guess the larger point here that the anti-immigrant enthusiast is making. Real life information means absolutely nothing to a large portion of the electorate.

Over a decade of relentless propaganda and misinformation about foreigners asylum seekers, immigration, the EU, etc etc has left them voting for nonsense like Brexit and Reform.

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By *ggdrasil66Man
36 weeks ago

Saltdean

https://lordslibrary.parliament.uk/asylum-accommodation-support-use-of-hotels/#heading-1

This doesn't say anything about iPhones, luxury or any other the other utter shite that you posted."

Of course not, it’s a government website, they ain’t going to admit to that. I would have thought a rebel like you would know that!

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By *he Flat CapsCouple
36 weeks ago

Pontypool

https://lordslibrary.parliament.uk/asylum-accommodation-support-use-of-hotels/#heading-1

This doesn't say anything about iPhones, luxury or any other the other utter shite that you posted.

Of course not, it’s a government website, they ain’t going to admit to that. I would have thought a rebel like you would know that!

Basically, it comes down to you're not willing to acknowledge any other point of view than yours, everyone else is wrong, or stupid, or both. In spite of evidence to the contrary.

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By *ex MexicoMan
36 weeks ago

North West

https://lordslibrary.parliament.uk/asylum-accommodation-support-use-of-hotels/#heading-1

This doesn't say anything about iPhones, luxury or any other the other utter shite that you posted.

Of course not, it’s a government website, they ain’t going to admit to that. I would have thought a rebel like you would know that!

"Here's the evidence!"

"That's not evidence."

"Well of course not, because they've suppressed the evidence!"

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By *ggdrasil66Man
36 weeks ago

Saltdean

"Don't forget about the scooters Johnny and the 24/7 medical care"

I didn’t say 25/7 medical care, they are automatically entitled to National Health Service care though. I said mopeds not scooters, get it right. I know they share them, I see them at my workplace every night.

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36 weeks ago

https://lordslibrary.parliament.uk/asylum-accommodation-support-use-of-hotels/#heading-1

This doesn't say anything about iPhones, luxury or any other the other utter shite that you posted.

Of course not, it’s a government website, they ain’t going to admit to that. I would have thought a rebel like you would know that!

So we're back to square one. Zero evidence for the nonsense you're parroting on here.

Which is the point really. Information is utterly irrelevant.

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By *ggdrasil66Man
36 weeks ago

Saltdean

https://lordslibrary.parliament.uk/asylum-accommodation-support-use-of-hotels/#heading-1

This doesn't say anything about iPhones, luxury or any other the other utter shite that you posted.

Of course not, it’s a government website, they ain’t going to admit to that. I would have thought a rebel like you would know that!

"Here's the evidence!"

"That's not evidence."

"Well of course not, because they've suppressed the evidence!"

When I said “some of it is actually believable,” you thought I was saying here is the evidence. What I was trying to say I that you can’t automatically believe anything you find on the internet, no matter what or whom the source is.

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By *ex MexicoMan
36 weeks ago

North West

https://lordslibrary.parliament.uk/asylum-accommodation-support-use-of-hotels/#heading-1

This doesn't say anything about iPhones, luxury or any other the other utter shite that you posted.

Of course not, it’s a government website, they ain’t going to admit to that. I would have thought a rebel like you would know that!

"Here's the evidence!"

"That's not evidence."

"Well of course not, because they've suppressed the evidence!"

You know that also goes for Stormfront or wherever it is you get this garbage you parrot, right?

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By *he Flat CapsCouple
36 weeks ago

Pontypool

https://lordslibrary.parliament.uk/asylum-accommodation-support-use-of-hotels/#heading-1

This doesn't say anything about iPhones, luxury or any other the other utter shite that you posted.

Of course not, it’s a government website, they ain’t going to admit to that. I would have thought a rebel like you would know that!

"Here's the evidence!"

"That's not evidence."

"Well of course not, because they've suppressed the evidence!"

What source do you believe?

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By *ggdrasil66Man
36 weeks ago

Saltdean

https://lordslibrary.parliament.uk/asylum-accommodation-support-use-of-hotels/#heading-1

This doesn't say anything about iPhones, luxury or any other the other utter shite that you posted.

Of course not, it’s a government website, they ain’t going to admit to that. I would have thought a rebel like you would know that!

"Here's the evidence!"

"That's not evidence."

"Well of course not, because they've suppressed the evidence!"

You know that also goes for Stormfront or wherever it is you get this garbage you parrot, right?"

Stormfront? You’ve got to be fucking kidding! No chance!

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36 weeks ago

https://lordslibrary.parliament.uk/asylum-accommodation-support-use-of-hotels/#heading-1

This doesn't say anything about iPhones, luxury or any other the other utter shite that you posted.

Of course not, it’s a government website, they ain’t going to admit to that. I would have thought a rebel like you would know that!

"Here's the evidence!"

"That's not evidence."

"Well of course not, because they've suppressed the evidence!"

You know that also goes for Stormfront or wherever it is you get this garbage you parrot, right?

Stormfront? You’ve got to be fucking kidding! No chance!"

They're too soft for you?

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By *anifestoMan
36 weeks ago

My bad. I really should start pay more attention to the lies and bullshit published by citizen journalists on Twitter, taken as fact by the daily mail and repeated here.

"Don't forget about the scooters Johnny and the 24/7 medical care

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By *ggdrasil66Man
36 weeks ago

Saltdean

https://lordslibrary.parliament.uk/asylum-accommodation-support-use-of-hotels/#heading-1

This doesn't say anything about iPhones, luxury or any other the other utter shite that you posted.

Of course not, it’s a government website, they ain’t going to admit to that. I would have thought a rebel like you would know that!

"Here's the evidence!"

"That's not evidence."

"Well of course not, because they've suppressed the evidence!"

You know that also goes for Stormfront or wherever it is you get this garbage you parrot, right?

Stormfront? You’ve got to be fucking kidding! No chance!

They're too soft for you?"

Don’t be so bloody silly..

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By *he Flat CapsCouple
36 weeks ago

Pontypool

https://lordslibrary.parliament.uk/asylum-accommodation-support-use-of-hotels/#heading-1

This doesn't say anything about iPhones, luxury or any other the other utter shite that you posted.

Of course not, it’s a government website, they ain’t going to admit to that. I would have thought a rebel like you would know that!

"Here's the evidence!"

"That's not evidence."

"Well of course not, because they've suppressed the evidence!"

You know that also goes for Stormfront or wherever it is you get this garbage you parrot, right?

Stormfront? You’ve got to be fucking kidding! No chance!

They're too soft for you?

Don’t be so bloody silly.."

Which source(s) do you believe?

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By *ex MexicoMan
36 weeks ago

North West

Don’t be so bloody silly.."

Go on then, where are you getting your stuff from? Infowars? VDare? National Vanguard? Or is it mostly just Twitter accounts and YouTube channels that also sell dodgy workout supplements?

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By * wheel drive tractorMan
36 weeks ago

North Lonsdon

"Interesting!

Daily Express.

Explains a lot."
I think you will find that the Daily Express is a very popular newspaper and has been cir ulating for a very long time. It readership vastly exceeds that of this forum and any reports it prepares are monitored by independent third parties.

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36 weeks ago

"Interesting!

Daily Express.

Explains a lot. I think you will find that the Daily Express is a very popular newspaper and has been cir ulating for a very long time. It readership vastly exceeds that of this forum and any reports it prepares are monitored by independent third parties. "

Woohoo. Hi Pat. You should post more.

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By *ex MexicoMan
36 weeks ago

North West

"Interesting!

Daily Express.

"Immigration claim (2023–24):

In a comment piece on Boxing Day 2023, the Daily Express repeated a Conservative Party claim that Labour’s migration plans would result in “100,000 extra illegal migrants” annually. Full Fact challenged this, noting it was misleading and based on a mathematical error. IPSO upheld the complaint in September 2024, requiring a correction—one that was delayed and insufficient in prominence.

Misleading polls and data (2016):

A headline claimed “98% say NO to EU deal,” which misrepresented a readers’ survey as broad public opinion. IPSO upheld the complaint.

Another article suggested a post-Brexit 10% housing price rise, when that referred to an annual increase before the referendum. IPSO again ruled it misleading.

Politically skewed polling (2014):

A story titled “UKIP is now more popular than Labour” omitted that the poll was limited to Sun newspaper readers—thus misleadingly portraying it as a national trend. IPSO upheld the complaint.

Anti-EU bias before Brexit (2016):

Press Gazette found that the Daily Express had the highest number of misleading stories about the EU among major national tabloids—eight during the referendum campaign—though not all were formally ruled on.

Inaccurate headlines about Islam (2020s):

One article claimed “less than a third of Muslim nations” joined the coalition against ISIS—IPSO found this misleading and noted misrepresentation of tone.

Another incorrectly stated isolated Muslim communities overestimated the UK’s Muslim population at 75%; the actual figure was based on one school’s survey. IPSO upheld the complaint; corrections were issued.

Repeated recent IPSO rulings (late 2023–early 2025):

The Express received six upheld complaints within three months alone, primarily related to misleading headlines about Chancellor Rachel Reeves, including exaggerating a “£8,000 tax raid,” mortgage rate impact, and claims of £450 heating payments.

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Broader Trust and Bias Concerns

Media Bias/Fact Check Rating:

The Daily Express is rated "Right Biased" with Mixed factual reporting. It’s known for sensational headlines and has failed fact checks on topics like COVID-19 conspiracies, immigration, and vaccine misinformation.

Historical Criticism and Perception:

The UN condemned its 2013 anti-immigration campaign as xenophobic. Repeated coverage targeting asylum seekers also drew criticism from human rights experts.

Highest Number of Regulatory Breaches:

Between 2014 and 2025, the Daily Express (and Sunday Express) had 10 complaints ruled on by IPSO, with 4 upheld—a higher share than many other national titles.

Public Perception:

On discussion platforms like Reddit, users often describe the paper as sensationalist, fear-mongering, and untrustworthy. “It is not a newspaper, it is pure propaganda.”

Others point out patterns of exaggeration and clickbait coverage."

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By *anifestoMan
36 weeks ago

The Express wouldn't be my go-to for objective fact based information or news.

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By *estivalMan
36 weeks ago

borehamwood

"United Nations predictions are 1.2Bn migrants entering Europe by 2070/80

We’ve seen nothing yet. "
well according to the media and goverments once putin is finished with ukraune he is gona invade everyone else so we would of all fled somewhere safer and hopefully warmer so they will be russias problem 😂 😂 😂 😂

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By *ggdrasil66Man
36 weeks ago

Saltdean

"The Express wouldn't be my go-to for objective fact based information or news."

They are constantly going on about world war three, and stockpiling bog roll and bottled water. Crackpots, I mean I know Putin is a nut job, but I don’t believe that nuclear bombs are going to start raining on us anytime soon.

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By *he Flat CapsCouple
36 weeks ago

Pontypool

"The Express wouldn't be my go-to for objective fact based information or news.

I'm still waiting for you to say which source(s) you believe/accept as true and on which you base your ideology.

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By * wheel drive tractorMan
36 weeks ago

North Lonsdon

"Interesting!

Daily Express.

"Immigration claim (2023–24):

Misleading polls and data (2016):

A headline claimed “98% say NO to EU deal,” which misrepresented a readers’ survey as broad public opinion. IPSO upheld the complaint.

Another article suggested a post-Brexit 10% housing price rise, when that referred to an annual increase before the referendum. IPSO again ruled it misleading.

Politically skewed polling (2014):

A story titled “UKIP is now more popular than Labour” omitted that the poll was limited to Sun newspaper readers—thus misleadingly portraying it as a national trend. IPSO upheld the complaint.

Anti-EU bias before Brexit (2016):

Inaccurate headlines about Islam (2020s):

One article claimed “less than a third of Muslim nations” joined the coalition against ISIS—IPSO found this misleading and noted misrepresentation of tone.

Repeated recent IPSO rulings (late 2023–early 2025):

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Broader Trust and Bias Concerns

Media Bias/Fact Check Rating:

Historical Criticism and Perception:

The UN condemned its 2013 anti-immigration campaign as xenophobic. Repeated coverage targeting asylum seekers also drew criticism from human rights experts.

Highest Number of Regulatory Breaches:

Between 2014 and 2025, the Daily Express (and Sunday Express) had 10 complaints ruled on by IPSO, with 4 upheld—a higher share than many other national titles.

Public Perception:

On discussion platforms like Reddit, users often describe the paper as sensationalist, fear-mongering, and untrustworthy. “It is not a newspaper, it is pure propaganda.”

Others point out patterns of exaggeration and clickbait coverage.""
Why would anyone paste all this information in ? . It's circulation figures are self explatory and prove how successfull it is. All newspapers have complaints. Who cares about complaints. Imagine being the type of individual who has nothing else better to do with their lives than complain about a long established and very successfull newspaper. The complaints are probably proof of its success in bringing these matters to the attention of the public.

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36 weeks ago

"Interesting!

Daily Express.

"Immigration claim (2023–24):

Misleading polls and data (2016):

A headline claimed “98% say NO to EU deal,” which misrepresented a readers’ survey as broad public opinion. IPSO upheld the complaint.

Another article suggested a post-Brexit 10% housing price rise, when that referred to an annual increase before the referendum. IPSO again ruled it misleading.

Politically skewed polling (2014):

A story titled “UKIP is now more popular than Labour” omitted that the poll was limited to Sun newspaper readers—thus misleadingly portraying it as a national trend. IPSO upheld the complaint.

Anti-EU bias before Brexit (2016):

Inaccurate headlines about Islam (2020s):

One article claimed “less than a third of Muslim nations” joined the coalition against ISIS—IPSO found this misleading and noted misrepresentation of tone.

Repeated recent IPSO rulings (late 2023–early 2025):

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Broader Trust and Bias Concerns

Media Bias/Fact Check Rating:

Historical Criticism and Perception:

The UN condemned its 2013 anti-immigration campaign as xenophobic. Repeated coverage targeting asylum seekers also drew criticism from human rights experts.

Highest Number of Regulatory Breaches:

Between 2014 and 2025, the Daily Express (and Sunday Express) had 10 complaints ruled on by IPSO, with 4 upheld—a higher share than many other national titles.

Public Perception:

On discussion platforms like Reddit, users often describe the paper as sensationalist, fear-mongering, and untrustworthy. “It is not a newspaper, it is pure propaganda.”

Others point out patterns of exaggeration and clickbait coverage." Why would anyone paste all this information in ? . It's circulation figures are self explatory and prove how successfull it is. All newspapers have complaints. Who cares about complaints. Imagine being the type of individual who has nothing else better to do with their lives than complain about a long established and very successfull newspaper. The complaints are probably proof of its success in bringing these matters to the attention of the public. "

Exactly. Who gives a fuck how much misinformation they spread. All that matters is how many people read the bollocks they print.

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By *ex MexicoMan
36 weeks ago

North West

"Why would anyone paste all this information in ?"

Yeah, why WOULD anyone share information? It's so hard to understand!

"It's circulation figures are self explatory and prove how successfull it is."

Class A drugs are also extremely popular, and equally full of poison that rots your brain.

"All newspapers have complaints. Who cares about complaints."

People who care about the credibility of their information sources.

"magine being the type of individual who has nothing else better to do with their lives than complain about a long established and very successfull newspaper."

I happen to think that correcting people who claim the Daily Express is a good newspaper is an excellent use of my time.

"The complaints are probably proof of its success in bringing these matters to the attention of the public. "

Irrefutable logic there, characteristic of the critical thinking abilities of your average Daily Express reader.

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By * wheel drive tractorMan
36 weeks ago

North Lonsdon

"Interesting!

Daily Express.

"Immigration claim (2023–24):

Misleading polls and data (2016):

A headline claimed “98% say NO to EU deal,” which misrepresented a readers’ survey as broad public opinion. IPSO upheld the complaint.

Another article suggested a post-Brexit 10% housing price rise, when that referred to an annual increase before the referendum. IPSO again ruled it misleading.

Politically skewed polling (2014):

A story titled “UKIP is now more popular than Labour” omitted that the poll was limited to Sun newspaper readers—thus misleadingly portraying it as a national trend. IPSO upheld the complaint.

Anti-EU bias before Brexit (2016):

Inaccurate headlines about Islam (2020s):

One article claimed “less than a third of Muslim nations” joined the coalition against ISIS—IPSO found this misleading and noted misrepresentation of tone.

Repeated recent IPSO rulings (late 2023–early 2025):

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Broader Trust and Bias Concerns

Media Bias/Fact Check Rating:

Historical Criticism and Perception:

The UN condemned its 2013 anti-immigration campaign as xenophobic. Repeated coverage targeting asylum seekers also drew criticism from human rights experts.

Highest Number of Regulatory Breaches:

Between 2014 and 2025, the Daily Express (and Sunday Express) had 10 complaints ruled on by IPSO, with 4 upheld—a higher share than many other national titles.

Public Perception:

On discussion platforms like Reddit, users often describe the paper as sensationalist, fear-mongering, and untrustworthy. “It is not a newspaper, it is pure propaganda.”

Others point out patterns of exaggeration and clickbait coverage.""
Ten complaints in ten years and four withheld. The numbers are so small they are not even worth thinking about. The readership base are hardly going to be bothered about complaints or stop buying it.

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36 weeks ago

"Interesting!

Daily Express.

"Immigration claim (2023–24):

Misleading polls and data (2016):

A headline claimed “98% say NO to EU deal,” which misrepresented a readers’ survey as broad public opinion. IPSO upheld the complaint.

Another article suggested a post-Brexit 10% housing price rise, when that referred to an annual increase before the referendum. IPSO again ruled it misleading.

Politically skewed polling (2014):

A story titled “UKIP is now more popular than Labour” omitted that the poll was limited to Sun newspaper readers—thus misleadingly portraying it as a national trend. IPSO upheld the complaint.

Anti-EU bias before Brexit (2016):

Inaccurate headlines about Islam (2020s):

One article claimed “less than a third of Muslim nations” joined the coalition against ISIS—IPSO found this misleading and noted misrepresentation of tone.

Repeated recent IPSO rulings (late 2023–early 2025):

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Broader Trust and Bias Concerns

Media Bias/Fact Check Rating:

Historical Criticism and Perception:

The UN condemned its 2013 anti-immigration campaign as xenophobic. Repeated coverage targeting asylum seekers also drew criticism from human rights experts.

Highest Number of Regulatory Breaches:

Between 2014 and 2025, the Daily Express (and Sunday Express) had 10 complaints ruled on by IPSO, with 4 upheld—a higher share than many other national titles.

Public Perception:

On discussion platforms like Reddit, users often describe the paper as sensationalist, fear-mongering, and untrustworthy. “It is not a newspaper, it is pure propaganda.”

Others point out patterns of exaggeration and clickbait coverage." Ten complaints in ten years and four withheld. The numbers are so small they are not even worth thinking about. The readership base are hardly going to be bothered about complaints or stop buying it. "

Completely agree. Daily Express readers don't care that they're being fed misinformation. They keep buying it.

Sad times.

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By *otMe66Man
36 weeks ago

Terra Firma

I’m fascinated by how much effort goes into "breaking down" individual's opinions rather than actually discussing merits or solutions. Maybe the forum needs two sections: one for personal political rants, and another for actual political discussion. I know the later will be rarely visited. but people could choose whether they want to contribute to point scoring or problem solving.

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By *otMe66Man
36 weeks ago

Terra Firma

Why would France agree to such deal?

The thinking might go like this: They're only in France to get to the UK. Take the UK off the table and they go straight to other countries, such as Germany/Sweden."

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By (user no longer on site)
36 weeks ago

"I’m fascinated by how much effort goes into "breaking down" individual's opinions rather than actually discussing merits or solutions. Maybe the forum needs two sections: one for personal political rants, and another for actual political discussion. I know the later will be rarely visited. but people could choose whether they want to contribute to point scoring or problem solving. "

Solid.

Unfortunately the anti-immigrant enthusiast didn't have anything of merit to discuss as it was all utter bollocks.

The only thing worth discussing is how misinformation is effecting life and politics in the country.

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By *ornucopiaMan
36 weeks ago

Bexley

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I'm still waiting for you to say which source(s) you believe/accept as true and on which you base your ideology. "

Ingrained and fervent prejudice, perhaps?

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By *otMe66Man
36 weeks ago

Terra Firma

Solid.

Unfortunately the anti-immigrant enthusiast didn't have anything of merit to discuss as it was all utter bollocks.

The only thing worth discussing is how misinformation is effecting life and politics in the country. "

I'm guessing a rants section would be the preferred choice?

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By *teveuk77Man
36 weeks ago

Why would France agree to such deal?

The thinking might go like this: They're only in France to get to the UK. Take the UK off the table and they go straight to other countries, such as Germany/Sweden."

Spot on and too much for most Reformers to understand.

If the french don't try and stop the boats there will always be people waiting for the next boat. Calais camps will always be a problem for them and the locals.

The 1 in 1 out pilot just needs extending. People don't want to pay for a return ticket so if they are all getting sent back, none will come and those that are waiting will have to accept they will need to look elsewhere..or go home. It won't be Frances problem. It won't be our problem.

I genuinely think that Farage/Lowe etc know that Labour will be successful and this is why the there is this sudden love for the flag and protesting. When the numbers drop, those flag shaggers and protesters will take credit for scaring the asylum seekers away.

Just watch!

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By *ex MexicoMan
36 weeks ago

North West

"Ten complaints in ten years and four withheld. The numbers are so small they are not even worth thinking about."

You certainly haven't done any thinking about it.

"The readership base are hardly going to be bothered about complaints or stop buying it. "

I'm sure the Daily Express editors are counting on it.

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By *ex MexicoMan
36 weeks ago

North West

It's a nice idea in theory, but the reality is that for the gammon, these incessant threads about why this or that stat about illegal immigrants is evidence that Labour and the Global Marxist Left etc etc, is their idea of "actual political discussion" so that's where they'd post it, not in the "rants" section.

As another poster has said, there's no point in discussing merits or solutions to these right-wing diatribes, all you can do is show them that their sources are bad and their thinking is dysfunctional. Half the political spectrum has been convinced by client media and successive populist politicians that "get rid of X" (X being variously Europe, immigrants, trans people, the woke Left etc) is the solution to returning to a notional golden age of British life. There is no room in there to accept that useful political change is gradual and incremental progression towards an equitable compromise when anyone involved in something they don't like is an "Enemy of the People", and individuals like Farage and Johnson and Truss thrive on that kind of permanent chaotic unrest. It enables them to pose as politicians without ever needing to propose any positive solutions. They can just keep opening Pandora's boxes and standing well back.

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By *ools and the brainCouple
36 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.

And this thread is a great example of why a solution to the issue will never work.

A small cross section of society discussing the situation bickering and name calling acting like kid's.

Now we all know MPs are the worst so getting them to agree to come up with a viable solution is never going to happen.

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By *oalie66Man
36 weeks ago

Chesterfield

So how does the UK govt suddenly stop people getting in boats and crossing the channel ?

Make it not worth their while coming here.

Ideally lock the illegal immigrants up in detention camps until they are processed. Only basic facilities necessary for life.

Automatically disallow asylum claims if the person has arrived on a valid visa. They will have lied to get that visa. Same for arrivals on small boats.

Deport them to their country of origin in most cases. Few countries are so unsafe for the general population that they can’t be deported. Sanction countries that don’t accept the returns.

Etc…

But this and previous governments won’t do it. This one because they rely on the immigrant vote, previous governments because they were weak and divided.

Stop talking sense on here will you,the looney lefties don't like it.

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By *ex MexicoMan
36 weeks ago

North West

", sexuality etc. are a choice and are not good reasons for granting asylum.

I feel like this one slipped under the radar a little bit.

Firstly, especially on a sex-positive site like this one let's not give any air to the homophobic lie that sexual orientation is a "choice".

Secondly, the fact that "being killed for who you are" does not in this poster's view constitute a good enough reason to seek asylum gives you some idea of this person's willingness to help those fleeing persecution under any circumstances.

This is the other side of the debate, mostly, and if I'm honest it feels a bit rich to be called a "looney" by people who have these beliefs.

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By *exy_HornyCouple
36 weeks ago

Leigh

", sexuality etc. are a choice and are not good reasons for granting asylum.

I feel like this one slipped under the radar a little bit.

Firstly, especially on a sex-positive site like this one let's not give any air to the homophobic lie that sexual orientation is a "choice".

This is the other side of the debate, mostly, and if I'm honest it feels a bit rich to be called a "looney" by people who have these beliefs."

The full quote was that religion and sexuality are a choice.

That is true, and if you live in a country where your choice is detrimental to your safety you have the choice not to act on that choice.

If you really want to pursue your choice then get a skill people want and then get a legitimate working visa for a more liberal country. If you can’t do that then tough.

We have enough poorly educated people in this country as it is (based on the abysmal Maths and English GCSE pass rates this year) without importing more.

Most of the religious and sexuality asylum claims are totally bogus anyway. The claimants are coached to use these as they are difficult to disprove.

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By *ornucopiaMan
36 weeks ago

Bexley

", sexuality etc. are a choice and are not good reasons for granting asylum.

I feel like this one slipped under the radar a little bit.

Firstly, especially on a sex-positive site like this one let's not give any air to the homophobic lie that sexual orientation is a "choice".

This is the other side of the debate, mostly, and if I'm honest it feels a bit rich to be called a "looney" by people who have these beliefs."

It seems that it is the alliteration which appeals to many when they use the term 'Looney left'.

Maybe we should balance things by encouraging the description 'Rabid right'?

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By (user no longer on site)
36 weeks ago

", sexuality etc. are a choice and are not good reasons for granting asylum.

I feel like this one slipped under the radar a little bit.

Firstly, especially on a sex-positive site like this one let's not give any air to the homophobic lie that sexual orientation is a "choice".

This is the other side of the debate, mostly, and if I'm honest it feels a bit rich to be called a "looney" by people who have these beliefs.

It seems that it is the alliteration which appeals to many when they use the term 'Looney left'.

Maybe we should balance things by encouraging the description 'Rabid right'?"

I hardly think the 'rabid right' trope needs any encouragement.

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By *ornucopiaMan
36 weeks ago

Bexley

So how does the UK govt suddenly stop people getting in boats and crossing the channel ?

Make it not worth their while coming here.

Ideally lock the illegal immigrants up in detention camps until they are processed. Only basic facilities necessary for life.

Automatically disallow asylum claims if the person has arrived on a valid visa. They will have lied to get that visa. Same for arrivals on small boats.

Deport them to their country of origin in most cases. Few countries are so unsafe for the general population that they can’t be deported. Sanction countries that don’t accept the returns.

Etc…

But this and previous governments won’t do it. This one because they rely on the immigrant vote, previous governments because they were weak and divided.

Stop talking sense on here will you,the looney lefties don't like it."

Have the rabid capitalist worshipping right been 'sensible' in encouraging immigrant labour over the decades instead of getting the lazy locals off their fat claimant arses instead of lounging about in front of the telly and moaning about becoming strangers in their own once glorious country?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
36 weeks ago

My initial post here pointed out the widespread unpopularity of Labour’s handling of the small boats crisis (even among its own voters) and queries what Labour could do about it.

Instead of answering the question, as usual you have just gone on your normal 3am rant about everyone else being a thick racist.

You could probably just cut and paste the same message to every thread you respond to.

It’s an interesting insight however into the “mind” of the average Labour supporter, as it explains one of the reasons why Labour will fail to deal with the issue and why it is doomed politically.

I imagine your response is pretty much the response of the Labour Cabinet and certainly the attitude of the vast majority of Labour’s thick as pigshit MP’s and supporters.

The Cabinet of course just about understands that it needs to pretend to the public that it might be doing something about the issue to get reelected, no matter how discomfited it is about the whole concept of turning immigrants away.

“There is no problem”

“Immigrants are all wonderful, even the Afghan Sex Pests”

“We’ve no idea why anyone is complaining about this, they must just be thick racists”.

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By *otlovefun42Couple
36 weeks ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

I believe the Falkland Islands are nice at this time of year. Ditto South Georgia.

Plenty of space in Greenland.

I think someone also mentioned Ascension Island.

World is full of safe places.

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By *hrill CollinsMan
36 weeks ago

The Outer Rim

", sexuality etc. are a choice and are not good reasons for granting asylum.

I feel like this one slipped under the radar a little bit.

Firstly, especially on a sex-positive site like this one let's not give any air to the homophobic lie that sexual orientation is a "choice".

This is the other side of the debate, mostly, and if I'm honest it feels a bit rich to be called a "looney" by people who have these beliefs.

It seems that it is the alliteration which appeals to many when they use the term 'Looney left'.

Maybe we should balance things by encouraging the description 'Rabid right'?"

rabid or retarded ... take your pick

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By (user no longer on site)
36 weeks ago

Solid.

Unfortunately the anti-immigrant enthusiast didn't have anything of merit to discuss as it was all utter bollocks.

The only thing worth discussing is how misinformation is effecting life and politics in the country.

I'm guessing a rants section would be the preferred choice?

Funnily enough, in another thread I suggested a split, leave this as the "bashing the left" forum, and then have another for actual politics.

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By *he Flat CapsCouple
36 weeks ago

Pontypool

The full quote was that religion and sexuality are a choice.

That is true, and if you live in a country where your choice is detrimental to your safety you have the choice not to act on that choice.

If you really want to pursue your choice then get a skill people want and then get a legitimate working visa for a more liberal country. If you can’t do that then tough. "

" As simple as that, hey?! Lucky that you are currently in a liberal country. What happens if the Equalities Act is overturned, and there's bo DEI? One party has that in its _anifesto. "

We have enough poorly educated people in this country as it is (based on the abysmal Maths and English GCSE pass rates this year) without importing more."

" What's your evidence that asylum seekers don't already hold the equivalent of GCSEs or higher? "

Most of the religious and sexuality asylum claims are totally bogus anyway. The claimants are coached to use these as they are difficult to disprove."

" Again, where is the evidence of this? "

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By *anifestoMan
36 weeks ago

Actually, your initial post did not pose a question to discuss. It was more of a 'lets slam the current policy because they're talking about dinghies on GB News' type post.

And I think it's important to correct the misinformation around (5 star hotels, benefits, iPhones, free satalite tv, etc etc.)

"According to recent YouGov polling, 71% of the public think that Labour is failing in its policies on hotels for illegal immigrants.

Even 56% of Labour supporters think the same.

Meanwhile illegals arriving by boat under Labour are up 46% on a year ago.

This is no great surprise that Labour is failing dismally in another policy area. It is out of its depth generally.

But as the illegal migration crisis seems to be escalating out of control, what can Labour do to rescue the situation (aside from arresting people who complain and calling everyone racist)?

It seems that Labour is out of ideas and lacks the inclination to do anything about the problem. Not surprising that the public is so angry."

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple
36 weeks ago

Border of London

rabid or retarded ... take your pick

Hmm.

Retarded.

Here is a true story about where we finally "woke up" to the issues presented by a certain segment of society. About ten years ago, we went to a New Statesman evening with Neil Gaiman & Amanda Palmer (not a right wing event, let's say). We respect their art and views, and enjoy reading the New Statesman. The subject matter heavily featured freedom of speech. As a side act, they brought on a comedian, who did a piece on veganism. To hammer home his point, he joked that he had a retarded woman chained up in a room for milk, but it's okay, because he fed her and she had a comfortable bed, and he killed her twice a day. The fact that she was retarded meant that she wasn't missing out on life because she didn't know any better. The point, obviously, was that if we wouldn't do it to a human, why would we do it to a cow.

From near where we were sitting, a wheelchair-bound woman called out in a raspy, monotonous voice, "why did you need to say retarded?". She was clearly pained. The audience went quiet. The comedian ignored her. She asked again, he ignored her again, and everyone else was silent (including us, as well as the hosts). She had very probably had that slur used against her due to her speech and physical disabilities.

To this day, we're ashamed that we didn't stand up and call on him to apologise. It's insane that, in a community where discussion around micro-agressions is commonplace, there is such a blind spot to other slurs, which aren't quite as fashionable to condemn.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
36 weeks ago

"Actually, your initial post did not pose a question to discuss. It was more of a 'lets slam the current policy because they're talking about dinghies on GB News' type post.

And I think it's important to correct the misinformation around (5 star hotels, benefits, iPhones, free satalite tv, etc etc.)

According to recent YouGov polling, 71% of the public think that Labour is failing in its policies on hotels for illegal immigrants.

Even 56% of Labour supporters think the same.

Meanwhile illegals arriving by boat under Labour are up 46% on a year ago.

This is no great surprise that Labour is failing dismally in another policy area. It is out of its depth generally.

But as the illegal migration crisis seems to be escalating out of control, what can Labour do to rescue the situation (aside from arresting people who complain and calling everyone racist)?

It seems that Labour is out of ideas and lacks the inclination to do anything about the problem. Not surprising that the public is so angry."

You are in a small minority who doesn’t think this is a problem.

Why do you think everyone else thinks it is an issue but you don’t? Why are you not impacted by “disinformation”?

Is your view that you are just more clever than everyone else? Do you have any factual basis for that belief?

I don’t know how many people watch GB News. But it certainly isn’t 71% of the country. So the suggestion that it’s only an issue because of “disinformation” seems fanciful.