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"Birmingham City Council issued a safety plea to residents attaching the flags to lampposts and other street furniture. It said it was upgrading streetlights to energy-efficient LED lighting and had so far removed about 200 banners and flags. A statement issued by the council said the work would reduce energy use and lower maintenance costs. It said: "Work is due to begin imminently, and lamp columns need to remain free from attachments so work can be carried out as quickly and safely as possible. "People who attach unauthorised items to lampposts could be putting their lives and those of motorists and pedestrians at risk. (BBC web copy paste) " Ag right. Cool. And the email I received from the King of Nigeria yesterday telling me he’s got a warehouse full of money that I’ve inherited and he’ll send it to me as soon as I’ve paid the transfer fees. So Pakistan flags don’t affect health and safety? Can you provide some scientific evidence of this please? The only health and safety issue is to those people putting up the union flag in the first place if spotted by Labour supporters wanting to cut their throats. | |||
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"Look at pics of rioting/protest marches/anti-immigrant demonstrations etc. from France or Germany and notice the absence of national flags. Unfortunately, in the UK the Union Flag and, in particular, the St George's Cross, HAS become synonymous with racism..." Only by those who wish to weaponise the flag that way. | |||
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"Birmingham City Council issued a safety plea to residents attaching the flags to lampposts and other street furniture. It said it was upgrading streetlights to energy-efficient LED lighting and had so far removed about 200 banners and flags. A statement issued by the council said the work would reduce energy use and lower maintenance costs. It said: "Work is due to begin imminently, and lamp columns need to remain free from attachments so work can be carried out as quickly and safely as possible. "People who attach unauthorised items to lampposts could be putting their lives and those of motorists and pedestrians at risk. (BBC web copy paste) Ag right. Cool. And the email I received from the King of Nigeria yesterday telling me he’s got a warehouse full of money that I’ve inherited and he’ll send it to me as soon as I’ve paid the transfer fees. So Pakistan flags don’t affect health and safety? Can you provide some scientific evidence of this please? The only health and safety issue is to those people putting up the union flag in the first place if spotted by Labour supporters wanting to cut their throats. " Are those Pakistani or Palestinian flags on public lampposts or private flagpoles..? | |||
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"Birmingham City Council issued a safety plea to residents attaching the flags to lampposts and other street furniture. It said it was upgrading streetlights to energy-efficient LED lighting and had so far removed about 200 banners and flags. A statement issued by the council said the work would reduce energy use and lower maintenance costs. It said: "Work is due to begin imminently, and lamp columns need to remain free from attachments so work can be carried out as quickly and safely as possible. "People who attach unauthorised items to lampposts could be putting their lives and those of motorists and pedestrians at risk. (BBC web copy paste) Ag right. Cool. And the email I received from the King of Nigeria yesterday telling me he’s got a warehouse full of money that I’ve inherited and he’ll send it to me as soon as I’ve paid the transfer fees. So Pakistan flags don’t affect health and safety? Can you provide some scientific evidence of this please? The only health and safety issue is to those people putting up the union flag in the first place if spotted by Labour supporters wanting to cut their throats. Are those Pakistani or Palestinian flags on public lampposts or private flagpoles..?" Public. To clarify, I’m talking about flags flying on public land not private property. Perhaps Starmer will outlaw the Union and St George’s flags at some point so they can have a good reason for arresting people who fly one. He certainly stood in court numerous times against the British government and the crown so it wouldn’t be much of a stretch for him to be against the British people as well. | |||
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"Birmingham city council staff have been removing the St George cross and the Union flag from the streets of Birmingham while leaving in place flags from other countries such as Pakistan and Gaza " evidence is needed for this garbage | |||
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"Birmingham city council staff have been removing the St George cross and the Union flag from the streets of Birmingham while leaving in place flags from other countries such as Pakistan and Gaza evidence is needed for this garbage" You don’t believe evidence so go visit Birmingham and see for yourself. I was there yesterday, I’m from Birmingham and my son still lives there. | |||
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"Birmingham city council staff have been removing the St George cross and the Union flag from the streets of Birmingham while leaving in place flags from other countries such as Pakistan and Gaza evidence is needed for this garbage You don’t believe evidence so go visit Birmingham and see for yourself. I was there yesterday, I’m from Birmingham and my son still lives there. " so totally unsubstantiated garbage again. no surprises there then | |||
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"Birmingham city council staff have been removing the St George cross and the Union flag from the streets of Birmingham while leaving in place flags from other countries such as Pakistan and Gaza evidence is needed for this garbage You don’t believe evidence so go visit Birmingham and see for yourself. I was there yesterday, I’m from Birmingham and my son still lives there. so totally unsubstantiated garbage again. no surprises there then" Eye witness is not “unsubstantiated” You’re refusal to believe anything you don't agree with is far more significant to any discussion than any bigoted claims you may or may not make | |||
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"Birmingham city council staff have been removing the St George cross and the Union flag from the streets of Birmingham while leaving in place flags from other countries such as Pakistan and Gaza evidence is needed for this garbage You don’t believe evidence so go visit Birmingham and see for yourself. I was there yesterday, I’m from Birmingham and my son still lives there. so totally unsubstantiated garbage again. no surprises there then Eye witness is not “unsubstantiated” You’re refusal to believe anything you don't agree with is far more significant to any discussion than any bigoted claims you may or may not make " if any of what you've asserted was remotely true then it would be believed, but it's not true by any margin, it's been debunked and yet you keep banging on trying to force this garbage onto social media. it's just more of the same spreading of misinformation by the rabid right to try cause panic and outrage. | |||
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" The only health and safety issue is to those people putting up the union flag in the first place if spotted by Labour supporters wanting to cut their throats. " You seem fixated on throat cutting, you've mentioned it in a couple of threads now. Are you OK? | |||
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"Birmingham city council staff have been removing the St George cross and the Union flag from the streets of Birmingham while leaving in place flags from other countries such as Pakistan and Gaza evidence is needed for this garbage You don’t believe evidence so go visit Birmingham and see for yourself. I was there yesterday, I’m from Birmingham and my son still lives there. so totally unsubstantiated garbage again. no surprises there then Eye witness is not “unsubstantiated” You’re refusal to believe anything you don't agree with is far more significant to any discussion than any bigoted claims you may or may not make if any of what you've asserted was remotely true then it would be believed, but it's not true by any margin, it's been debunked and yet you keep banging on trying to force this garbage onto social media. it's just more of the same spreading of misinformation by the rabid right to try cause panic and outrage." So eye witness statement is considered evidence by the high court, but not on fab forum? 🤣🤣 Is that the “liar, liar, pants on fire” defence? So someone saying something always a lie but someone else saying something is always true? And the way the truth is determined is by if you like it or not? That brilliant. Who needs facts when we have feelings | |||
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" So eye witness statement is considered evidence by the high court, but not on fab forum? 🤣🤣 " In court, if you are found to be making false statements, you open yourself to perjury and or perverting the course of justice. Fab forum not so much. | |||
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" So eye witness statement is considered evidence by the high court, but not on fab forum? 🤣🤣 In court, if you are found to be making false statements, you open yourself to perjury and or perverting the course of justice. Fab forum not so much. " I think the online safety act includes a section (perhaps 176?) that covers posting false information online, knowing it’s false. So if you think it’s a lie i suggest you call the police. If i don’t get a swat team at my door in the next couple of days I’ll assume you didn’t make the call and decided I wasn’t lying. | |||
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"Arrived late here but my summation is that eyewitness reports have confirmed that in Birmingham, flags from multiple nationalities including Palestine which were hanging from street lamp posts have been taken down with the exception of those from Palestine. Who would have believed it? Pretty hard to make up so it must be true plus the original poster has been on this site for a long time and has a reputation so must be trustworthy. I won't be repeating this elsewhere though... " So, BirminghamStan now twinned with Tower HamletStan... | |||
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" So eye witness statement is considered evidence by the high court, but not on fab forum? 🤣🤣 In court, if you are found to be making false statements, you open yourself to perjury and or perverting the course of justice. Fab forum not so much. I think the online safety act includes a section (perhaps 176?) that covers posting false information online, knowing it’s false. So if you think it’s a lie i suggest you call the police. If i don’t get a swat team at my door in the next couple of days I’ll assume you didn’t make the call and decided I wasn’t lying. " no, you're just suceptible to being groomed by far right online activity. it's a bit sad really. | |||
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" So eye witness statement is considered evidence by the high court, but not on fab forum? 🤣🤣 In court, if you are found to be making false statements, you open yourself to perjury and or perverting the course of justice. Fab forum not so much. I think the online safety act includes a section (perhaps 176?) that covers posting false information online, knowing it’s false. So if you think it’s a lie i suggest you call the police. If i don’t get a swat team at my door in the next couple of days I’ll assume you didn’t make the call and decided I wasn’t lying. no, you're just suceptible to being groomed by far right online activity. it's a bit sad really." No not really. I’ve just not been groomed by the far left, their media and online activity. Once again, go to Birmingham and see. Leaving your front door is still allowed, although we’re not sure how long for. | |||
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"I can only speak about what I have seen happening in my own area of Birmingham. We woke up one day to a whole load of Palestinian flags having been put up very high on dozens of lamp posts. This is obviously totally offensive as we aren’t in Palestine and as my area has a significant number of Jewish residents it is particularly intimidatory and inflammatory. Then overnight these were taken down presumably by local residents and replaced by a lot of English and Union flags. That seems to have started a wider trend of erecting English and British national flags locally on lamp posts, bridges etc. So this whole thing was kicked off by some numpties wanting to bore us all with their opinions by erecting Palestinian flags on lampposts." This is happening all over, many bridges and railings I've seen in Hampshire over recent week's draped in the flag of st George,it seems that growing levels of Patriotism/Racism ( depends on your point of view) are sprouting everywhere. People putting up Palestine flag's is only going to fuel this fire. Unfortunately I don't think this is going to end well for anyone. | |||
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" So eye witness statement is considered evidence by the high court, but not on fab forum? 🤣🤣 In court, if you are found to be making false statements, you open yourself to perjury and or perverting the course of justice. Fab forum not so much. I think the online safety act includes a section (perhaps 176?) that covers posting false information online, knowing it’s false. So if you think it’s a lie i suggest you call the police. If i don’t get a swat team at my door in the next couple of days I’ll assume you didn’t make the call and decided I wasn’t lying. " I think you may have misread the legislation. | |||
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"If i don’t get a swat team at my door in the next couple of days I’ll assume you didn’t make the call and decided I wasn’t lying." Or it could be because you live in the UK, and we don't have SWAT teams here. | |||
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"If i don’t get a swat team at my door in the next couple of days I’ll assume you didn’t make the call and decided I wasn’t lying. Or it could be because you live in the UK, and we don't have SWAT teams here." We one had SO19 (now SCO19/MO19) shining scopes into our flat thanks to a rather humorous but unfortunate incident at a neighbour's house. He was comatose d*unk, but they tasered him in the backside nonetheless... | |||
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"And reform led councils are banning the pride flag from being flown from council buildings. Is that because the LGBTQ+ community is so dangerous? " Why should a pride flag fly from a council building? | |||
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"And reform led councils are banning the pride flag from being flown from council buildings. Is that because the LGBTQ+ community is so dangerous? Why should a pride flag fly from a council building? " Is there any reason it shouldn't? Or the Ukrainian flag, for that matter? | |||
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"And reform led councils are banning the pride flag from being flown from council buildings. Is that because the LGBTQ+ community is so dangerous? Why should a pride flag fly from a council building? Is there any reason it shouldn't? Or the Ukrainian flag, for that matter? " I asked you why it should. No answer? | |||
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"And reform led councils are banning the pride flag from being flown from council buildings. Is that because the LGBTQ+ community is so dangerous? Why should a pride flag fly from a council building? Is there any reason it shouldn't? Or the Ukrainian flag, for that matter? I asked you why it should. No answer? " I asked if the pride flag wasn't being flown because the LGBTQ+ community was dangerous, but no one has responded to that question. In a different thread, you declined to answer a follow up question because the initial question hadn't been answered. No answer? | |||
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"And reform led councils are banning the pride flag from being flown from council buildings. Is that because the LGBTQ+ community is so dangerous? Why should a pride flag fly from a council building? Is there any reason it shouldn't? Or the Ukrainian flag, for that matter? I asked you why it should. No answer? I asked if the pride flag wasn't being flown because the LGBTQ+ community was dangerous, but no one has responded to that question. In a different thread, you declined to answer a follow up question because the initial question hadn't been answered. No answer? " Well first off I’m not a reform voter or a reform councillor, so I can’t tell you why it’s being removed. I can guess. But I can’t speak for other people. If you were to ask me if I thought it should fly on government buildings then I could tell you my opinion, which I doubt you’re interested in, but I can’t answer the question you asked. Can you answer the question I asked? | |||
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"And reform led councils are banning the pride flag from being flown from council buildings. Is that because the LGBTQ+ community is so dangerous? Why should a pride flag fly from a council building? " Flags are often flown from government or official buildings, generally to show support or solidarity with a state, group or issue. It's appropriate occasionally, but questionable when the flag overstays its welcome. Since the UK still suffers from discrimination and violence against LGBTQ members, it makes sense to show support on occasion. It also demonstrates acknowledgement and recognition and acceptance of a significant group of British people, much like acknowledging Diwali, Christmas, Hanukkah, Ramadan, etc. Interestingly, the Pride flag was banned by a council in Hamtramck, USA, when a religious group took over control of the council. Surely we would want to avoid that sort of bigotry over here? https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/17/hamtramck-michigan-muslim-council-lgbtq-pride-flags-banned | |||
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"Same reason other flags are flown. Disability awareness. ND awareness. White ribbon. Eco status. " Saying you should fly one flag because another is flown doesn’t make sense. If that was the case we should fly every flag there is and thats just not possible. If we are flying a flag to show support for something, does that mean if we’re not flying a flag we don’t support it? There seems to be inference that by not flying a pride flag a council is against LGBT issues? Well I’ve not seen a Down’s syndrome flag flying so should I take it they have something against my granddaughter. I have a grandson with severe autism. A son with Asperger’s. And another granddaughter with food intolerances. Not seen any flags flying for them but I don’t think the world is against them. Buy hey, maybe I’m wrong. | |||
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"Same reason other flags are flown. Disability awareness. ND awareness. White ribbon. Eco status. Saying you should fly one flag because another is flown doesn’t make sense. If that was the case we should fly every flag there is and thats just not possible. If we are flying a flag to show support for something, does that mean if we’re not flying a flag we don’t support it? There seems to be inference that by not flying a pride flag a council is against LGBT issues? Well I’ve not seen a Down’s syndrome flag flying so should I take it they have something against my granddaughter. I have a grandson with severe autism. A son with Asperger’s. And another granddaughter with food intolerances. Not seen any flags flying for them but I don’t think the world is against them. Buy hey, maybe I’m wrong. " You'll be happy about this, all reform run councils will not be removing the union flag or flag of St George from lampposts in their areas. You seem to have an all or nothing approach to every topic under discussion. That must be hard work for you to maintain. Make sure you take some time for self care. | |||
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"Same reason other flags are flown. Disability awareness. ND awareness. White ribbon. Eco status. Saying you should fly one flag because another is flown doesn’t make sense. If that was the case we should fly every flag there is and thats just not possible. If we are flying a flag to show support for something, does that mean if we’re not flying a flag we don’t support it? There seems to be inference that by not flying a pride flag a council is against LGBT issues? Well I’ve not seen a Down’s syndrome flag flying so should I take it they have something against my granddaughter. I have a grandson with severe autism. A son with Asperger’s. And another granddaughter with food intolerances. Not seen any flags flying for them but I don’t think the world is against them. Buy hey, maybe I’m wrong. You'll be happy about this, all reform run councils will not be removing the union flag or flag of St George from lampposts in their areas. You seem to have an all or nothing approach to every topic under discussion. That must be hard work for you to maintain. Make sure you take some time for self care." If I feel a topic is important and a point of view is not being put forward by anyone else I’ll say it. If I have no interest or nothing to add, I’ll say nothing. I don’t see how that’s any different from anyone else. It’s not hard work to type. And being true to myself certainly requires no maintenance. As for the passive aggressive, I’m used to it from you, I’d expect nothing else. | |||
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"If i don’t get a swat team at my door in the next couple of days I’ll assume you didn’t make the call and decided I wasn’t lying. Or it could be because you live in the UK, and we don't have SWAT teams here." True, but I felt like using a little poetic licence for dramatic effect. Wasted I'm sure but it made me smile. Although as most police in this country don’t carry firearms, if an armed team were to come around it could be construed as special weapons and tactics. Probably standard police procedure for posting opinions online 😊 | |||
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"Same reason other flags are flown. Disability awareness. ND awareness. White ribbon. Eco status. Saying you should fly one flag because another is flown doesn’t make sense. If that was the case we should fly every flag there is and thats just not possible. If we are flying a flag to show support for something, does that mean if we’re not flying a flag we don’t support it? There seems to be inference that by not flying a pride flag a council is against LGBT issues? Well I’ve not seen a Down’s syndrome flag flying so should I take it they have something against my granddaughter. I have a grandson with severe autism. A son with Asperger’s. And another granddaughter with food intolerances. Not seen any flags flying for them but I don’t think the world is against them. Buy hey, maybe I’m wrong. You'll be happy about this, all reform run councils will not be removing the union flag or flag of St George from lampposts in their areas. You seem to have an all or nothing approach to every topic under discussion. That must be hard work for you to maintain. Make sure you take some time for self care. If I feel a topic is important and a point of view is not being put forward by anyone else I’ll say it. If I have no interest or nothing to add, I’ll say nothing. I don’t see how that’s any different from anyone else. It’s not hard work to type. And being true to myself certainly requires no maintenance. As for the passive aggressive, I’m used to it from you, I’d expect nothing else. " I beg to differ. Your posts have been called into question by several other posters, besides me. If you are indeed being true to yourself with everything you type, that is concerning. | |||
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"The premise of this thread is laughable. It's like gammon mad-libs." Enlighten us with your flag policy then. | |||
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"The premise of this thread is laughable. It's like gammon mad-libs. Enlighten us with your flag policy then." This might surprise you but I have no policy about flags specifically. I do have opinions about the tensions between free speech and public safety, but they're not especially controversial. | |||
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"The premise of this thread is laughable. It's like gammon mad-libs. Enlighten us with your flag policy then. This might surprise you but I have no policy about flags specifically. I do have opinions about the tensions between free speech and public safety, but they're not especially controversial." But you opined that the premise of the thread (flags) is laughable. How so? | |||
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" Probably standard police procedure for posting opinions online 😊" What a ridiculous thing to say. | |||
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"It seems that Birmingham council have got a serious problem after a leaked communication, which states officials feel too scared to remove Palestinian flags without police protection. There is certainly a 2 tier approach to removing flags, Union flags coming down immediately and Palestine flags left flying. It also paints a very negative picture of the people who put up Palestine flags or prevent officials taking them down." Well unfortunately, violence works in this country. The violent people were mollycoddled by the government for a long time through public order act. They have been arresting non-violent people just because they caused offense to violent people "to protect public order". This is what that leads to. | |||
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"It seems that Birmingham council have got a serious problem after a leaked communication, which states officials feel too scared to remove Palestinian flags without police protection. There is certainly a 2 tier approach to removing flags, Union flags coming down immediately and Palestine flags left flying. It also paints a very negative picture of the people who put up Palestine flags or prevent officials taking them down. Well unfortunately, violence works in this country. The violent people were mollycoddled by the government for a long time through public order act. They have been arresting non-violent people just because they caused offense to violent people "to protect public order". This is what that leads to." I think it goes deeper. Officials at Birmingham council are admitting they feel frightened by particular residents, that’s creating a two tier approach in their enforcement. If a local authority can’t apply the law equally because they are afraid, then surely the responsibility for those decisions shouldn’t sit with them. | |||
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"The premise of this thread is laughable. It's like gammon mad-libs. Enlighten us with your flag policy then. This might surprise you but I have no policy about flags specifically. I do have opinions about the tensions between free speech and public safety, but they're not especially controversial. But you opined that the premise of the thread (flags) is laughable. How so?" Read the OP. "Flags" isn't really the premise of the thread, is it. | |||
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"The premise of this thread is laughable. It's like gammon mad-libs. Enlighten us with your flag policy then. This might surprise you but I have no policy about flags specifically. I do have opinions about the tensions between free speech and public safety, but they're not especially controversial. But you opined that the premise of the thread (flags) is laughable. How so? Read the OP. "Flags" isn't really the premise of the thread, is it." I started the thread. It’s about flags! | |||
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" I started the thread. It’s about flags! " I can agree that you did indeed start the thread and you titled it 'Flags'. That's about it. | |||
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"It seems that Birmingham council have got a serious problem after a leaked communication, which states officials feel too scared to remove Palestinian flags without police protection. There is certainly a 2 tier approach to removing flags, Union flags coming down immediately and Palestine flags left flying. It also paints a very negative picture of the people who put up Palestine flags or prevent officials taking them down. Well unfortunately, violence works in this country. The violent people were mollycoddled by the government for a long time through public order act. They have been arresting non-violent people just because they caused offense to violent people "to protect public order". This is what that leads to. I think it goes deeper. Officials at Birmingham council are admitting they feel frightened by particular residents, that’s creating a two tier approach in their enforcement. If a local authority can’t apply the law equally because they are afraid, then surely the responsibility for those decisions shouldn’t sit with them." That's exactly the problem with how the public order act was applied too, wasn't it? It's not a Birmingham specific issue. Police would rather arrest someone who caused offense instead of taking on the ones who indulge in violence. That's why you can get away with burning a Bible but not a Quran and this applies all over the country. The explanation is the same. They are afraid of handling some people. | |||
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" I started the thread. It’s about flags! I can agree that you did indeed start the thread and you titled it 'Flags'. That's about it. " I started the thread. It’s about flags! | |||
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" I started the thread. It’s about flags! I can agree that you did indeed start the thread and you titled it 'Flags'. That's about it. I started the thread. It’s about flags!" It's about flags in the way that those threads about illegal immigration are about boats. | |||
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" I started the thread. It’s about flags! I can agree that you did indeed start the thread and you titled it 'Flags'. That's about it. I started the thread. It’s about flags!" Keep repeating yourself as much as you like.  | |||
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" I started the thread. It’s about flags! I can agree that you did indeed start the thread and you titled it 'Flags'. That's about it. I started the thread. It’s about flags! Keep repeating yourself as much as you like. "Wasn’t aware I needed your permission. When did Starmer pass that law? | |||
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" I started the thread. It’s about flags! I can agree that you did indeed start the thread and you titled it 'Flags'. That's about it. I started the thread. It’s about flags! Keep repeating yourself as much as you like.
Wasn’t aware I needed your permission. When did Starmer pass that law? "LOL! In my statement you have the agency. However, why post in the politics forum if the post, albeit about flags, was not political? In your OP you specifically mention racial hatred towards Britain and a Labour Council. Therefore, your post was political and expecting to polarise people. If if had just been about flags, the lounge would perhaps have been a better forum to discuss how useful they are in terms of maritime activities, or which ones people find aesthetically pleasing. | |||
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" I started the thread. It’s about flags! I can agree that you did indeed start the thread and you titled it 'Flags'. That's about it. I started the thread. It’s about flags! Keep repeating yourself as much as you like.
Wasn’t aware I needed your permission. When did Starmer pass that law?
LOL! In my statement you have the agency.
However, why post in the politics forum if the post, albeit about flags, was not political?
In your OP you specifically mention racial hatred towards Britain and a Labour Council.
Therefore, your post was political and expecting to polarise people.
If if had just been about flags, the lounge would perhaps have been a better forum to discuss how useful they are in terms of maritime activities, or which ones people find aesthetically pleasing.
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"Police would rather arrest someone who caused offense instead of taking on the ones who indulge in violence. That's why you can get away with burning a Bible but not a Quran and this applies all over the country. The explanation is the same. They are afraid of handling some people." I'm hoping you know how policing works? I'm not even going to talk about religious texts, as that topic has been over done already elsewhere. | |||
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" I started the thread. It’s about flags! I can agree that you did indeed start the thread and you titled it 'Flags'. That's about it. I started the thread. It’s about flags! Keep repeating yourself as much as you like.
Wasn’t aware I needed your permission. When did Starmer pass that law?
LOL! In my statement you have the agency.
However, why post in the politics forum if the post, albeit about flags, was not political?
In your OP you specifically mention racial hatred towards Britain and a Labour Council.
Therefore, your post was political and expecting to polarise people.
If if had just been about flags, the lounge would perhaps have been a better forum to discuss how useful they are in terms of maritime activities, or which ones people find aesthetically pleasing.
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"Police would rather arrest someone who caused offense instead of taking on the ones who indulge in violence. That's why you can get away with burning a Bible but not a Quran and this applies all over the country. The explanation is the same. They are afraid of handling some people. I'm hoping you know how policing works? I'm not even going to talk about religious texts, as that topic has been over done already elsewhere. " If the police are going to take action on non-violent people depending on how the violent groups will react, it is two-tier policing. They are basically encouraging violent groups by sending a message that violence works. | |||
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"Birmingham city council staff have been removing the St George cross and the Union flag from the streets of Birmingham while leaving in place flags from other countries such as Pakistan and Gaza If flags pose a health and safety concern, why not all flags? If some type of “planning permission” was required, why not all flags? I have a suspicion it’s neither of those things. Racial hatred, that’s the real reason. Hatred of Britain. Go to Pakistan and try the reverse. Or India. Looking forward to the lefties in here explaining these actions of a Labour council. " Having looked into it, the facts are: The George and union flags were put up in celebration of the Euro football tournament. The council did sweeps to coincide with the tournament to remove the flags as they contravened H&S and other directives. For around 18 months previously, Palestinian flags were hung but were not removed as the council were not doing sweeps. Many of the Palestinian flags were removed in the Euro sweeps along with the British flags but were quickly replaced while the British flags were not, giving the impression the Palestinian flags were never removed. A Councillor sent an email expressing concern over the risks to employees in removing Palestinian flags without police support as there have been incidents of confrontation in the past (it's not clear how serious). So a balanced view would be that an impoverished and not entirely competent council has been patchy in enforcing its policy of removing decorations from lampposts etc., and careless about the optics of removing British flags while not ensuring other flags were consistently removed too. There have been understandable tensions surrounding the removal of Palestinian flags given that many view the British government as complicit in the war in Gaza, and one councillor was therefore concerned for the safety of those doing the removal. To jump from that to "racial hatred" or "hatred of Britain" seems a pretty sizeable leap, but one can understand how that would be the conclusion drawn by those already predisposed to paranoia about the perceived encroachment of other cultures in British communities. | |||
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"Birmingham city council staff have been removing the St George cross and the Union flag from the streets of Birmingham while leaving in place flags from other countries such as Pakistan and Gaza If flags pose a health and safety concern, why not all flags? If some type of “planning permission” was required, why not all flags? I have a suspicion it’s neither of those things. Racial hatred, that’s the real reason. Hatred of Britain. Go to Pakistan and try the reverse. Or India. Looking forward to the lefties in here explaining these actions of a Labour council. Having looked into it, the facts are: The George and union flags were put up in celebration of the Euro football tournament. The council did sweeps to coincide with the tournament to remove the flags as they contravened H&S and other directives. For around 18 months previously, Palestinian flags were hung but were not removed as the council were not doing sweeps. Many of the Palestinian flags were removed in the Euro sweeps along with the British flags but were quickly replaced while the British flags were not, giving the impression the Palestinian flags were never removed. A Councillor sent an email expressing concern over the risks to employees in removing Palestinian flags without police support as there have been incidents of confrontation in the past (it's not clear how serious). So a balanced view would be that an impoverished and not entirely competent council has been patchy in enforcing its policy of removing decorations from lampposts etc., and careless about the optics of removing British flags while not ensuring other flags were consistently removed too. There have been understandable tensions surrounding the removal of Palestinian flags given that many view the British government as complicit in the war in Gaza, and one councillor was therefore concerned for the safety of those doing the removal. To jump from that to "racial hatred" or "hatred of Britain" seems a pretty sizeable leap, but one can understand how that would be the conclusion drawn by those already predisposed to paranoia about the perceived encroachment of other cultures in British communities." As an actual Birmingham resident who has witnessed with my own eyes what has been happening with flags in my own area, that sounds like a load of absolute shite. I can only comment on what’s been going on with flags in my own area, which is: Lots of Palestinian flags put up by someone or a group about a month ago They were all taken down about two days later and replaced by UK/English flags and one Israeli flag Israeli flag lasted about a day Other UK and English flags still up Driving out of the city centre today there seemed to be some Palestinian flags on a bridge across one of the main commuter arteries, which seems to be an occasional “protest” I have notice more English/UK flags up on lampposts generally on driving around Birmingham. But certainly in my area none of this has anything to do with football. | |||
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"Birmingham city council staff have been removing the St George cross and the Union flag from the streets of Birmingham while leaving in place flags from other countries such as Pakistan and Gaza If flags pose a health and safety concern, why not all flags? If some type of “planning permission” was required, why not all flags? I have a suspicion it’s neither of those things. Racial hatred, that’s the real reason. Hatred of Britain. Go to Pakistan and try the reverse. Or India. Looking forward to the lefties in here explaining these actions of a Labour council. Having looked into it, the facts are: The George and union flags were put up in celebration of the Euro football tournament. The council did sweeps to coincide with the tournament to remove the flags as they contravened H&S and other directives. For around 18 months previously, Palestinian flags were hung but were not removed as the council were not doing sweeps. Many of the Palestinian flags were removed in the Euro sweeps along with the British flags but were quickly replaced while the British flags were not, giving the impression the Palestinian flags were never removed. A Councillor sent an email expressing concern over the risks to employees in removing Palestinian flags without police support as there have been incidents of confrontation in the past (it's not clear how serious). So a balanced view would be that an impoverished and not entirely competent council has been patchy in enforcing its policy of removing decorations from lampposts etc., and careless about the optics of removing British flags while not ensuring other flags were consistently removed too. There have been understandable tensions surrounding the removal of Palestinian flags given that many view the British government as complicit in the war in Gaza, and one councillor was therefore concerned for the safety of those doing the removal. To jump from that to "racial hatred" or "hatred of Britain" seems a pretty sizeable leap, but one can understand how that would be the conclusion drawn by those already predisposed to paranoia about the perceived encroachment of other cultures in British communities. As an actual Birmingham resident who has witnessed with my own eyes what has been happening with flags in my own area, that sounds like a load of absolute shite. I can only comment on what’s been going on with flags in my own area, which is: Lots of Palestinian flags put up by someone or a group about a month ago They were all taken down about two days later and replaced by UK/English flags and one Israeli flag Israeli flag lasted about a day Other UK and English flags still up Driving out of the city centre today there seemed to be some Palestinian flags on a bridge across one of the main commuter arteries, which seems to be an occasional “protest” I have notice more English/UK flags up on lampposts generally on driving around Birmingham. But certainly in my area none of this has anything to do with football." I'm certainly happy to defer to your first-hand knowledge, I was just going from what I could glean from the reporting. Either way, it seems like the "the council is anti-British" line is a non-starter. | |||
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"Birmingham city council staff have been removing the St George cross and the Union flag from the streets of Birmingham while leaving in place flags from other countries such as Pakistan and Gaza If flags pose a health and safety concern, why not all flags? If some type of “planning permission” was required, why not all flags? I have a suspicion it’s neither of those things. Racial hatred, that’s the real reason. Hatred of Britain. Go to Pakistan and try the reverse. Or India. Looking forward to the lefties in here explaining these actions of a Labour council. Having looked into it, the facts are: The George and union flags were put up in celebration of the Euro football tournament. The council did sweeps to coincide with the tournament to remove the flags as they contravened H&S and other directives. For around 18 months previously, Palestinian flags were hung but were not removed as the council were not doing sweeps. Many of the Palestinian flags were removed in the Euro sweeps along with the British flags but were quickly replaced while the British flags were not, giving the impression the Palestinian flags were never removed. A Councillor sent an email expressing concern over the risks to employees in removing Palestinian flags without police support as there have been incidents of confrontation in the past (it's not clear how serious). So a balanced view would be that an impoverished and not entirely competent council has been patchy in enforcing its policy of removing decorations from lampposts etc., and careless about the optics of removing British flags while not ensuring other flags were consistently removed too. There have been understandable tensions surrounding the removal of Palestinian flags given that many view the British government as complicit in the war in Gaza, and one councillor was therefore concerned for the safety of those doing the removal. To jump from that to "racial hatred" or "hatred of Britain" seems a pretty sizeable leap, but one can understand how that would be the conclusion drawn by those already predisposed to paranoia about the perceived encroachment of other cultures in British communities. As an actual Birmingham resident who has witnessed with my own eyes what has been happening with flags in my own area, that sounds like a load of absolute shite. I can only comment on what’s been going on with flags in my own area, which is: Lots of Palestinian flags put up by someone or a group about a month ago They were all taken down about two days later and replaced by UK/English flags and one Israeli flag Israeli flag lasted about a day Other UK and English flags still up Driving out of the city centre today there seemed to be some Palestinian flags on a bridge across one of the main commuter arteries, which seems to be an occasional “protest” I have notice more English/UK flags up on lampposts generally on driving around Birmingham. But certainly in my area none of this has anything to do with football. I'm certainly happy to defer to your first-hand knowledge, I was just going from what I could glean from the reporting. Either way, it seems like the "the council is anti-British" line is a non-starter." I’m not saying there are no flags anywhere in Birmingham that relate to a football tournament, or that the Council has not taken some down. All that I’ve seen myself is that historically where I am I haven’t seen any flags on lampposts ever until about a month ago, and the Uk and English flags are still there. The Palestinian ones were I assume taken down by residents. That’s not to say the Council won’t take the Uk ones down at some point. | |||
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"Birmingham city council staff have been removing the St George cross and the Union flag from the streets of Birmingham while leaving in place flags from other countries such as Pakistan and Gaza If flags pose a health and safety concern, why not all flags? If some type of “planning permission” was required, why not all flags? I have a suspicion it’s neither of those things. Racial hatred, that’s the real reason. Hatred of Britain. Go to Pakistan and try the reverse. Or India. Looking forward to the lefties in here explaining these actions of a Labour council. " It's a disgrace. Irish flags encouraged on st Paddy's day, not so sure about the Scottish saltire but even so why shouldn't you be able to flag your national flag? | |||
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"Birmingham city council staff have been removing the St George cross and the Union flag from the streets of Birmingham while leaving in place flags from other countries such as Pakistan and Gaza If flags pose a health and safety concern, why not all flags? If some type of “planning permission” was required, why not all flags? I have a suspicion it’s neither of those things. Racial hatred, that’s the real reason. Hatred of Britain. Go to Pakistan and try the reverse. Or India. Looking forward to the lefties in here explaining these actions of a Labour council. It's a disgrace. Irish flags encouraged on st Paddy's day, not so sure about the Scottish saltire but even so why shouldn't you be able to flag your national flag? " St George's day is alway forgotten. | |||
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"Birmingham city council staff have been removing the St George cross and the Union flag from the streets of Birmingham while leaving in place flags from other countries such as Pakistan and Gaza If flags pose a health and safety concern, why not all flags? If some type of “planning permission” was required, why not all flags? I have a suspicion it’s neither of those things. Racial hatred, that’s the real reason. Hatred of Britain. Go to Pakistan and try the reverse. Or India. Looking forward to the lefties in here explaining these actions of a Labour council. It's a disgrace. Irish flags encouraged on st Paddy's day, not so sure about the Scottish saltire but even so why shouldn't you be able to flag your national flag? " You're welcome to fly it wherever is deemed safe to do so. | |||
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"Birmingham city council staff have been removing the St George cross and the Union flag from the streets of Birmingham while leaving in place flags from other countries such as Pakistan and Gaza If flags pose a health and safety concern, why not all flags? If some type of “planning permission” was required, why not all flags? I have a suspicion it’s neither of those things. Racial hatred, that’s the real reason. Hatred of Britain. Go to Pakistan and try the reverse. Or India. Looking forward to the lefties in here explaining these actions of a Labour council. It's a disgrace. Irish flags encouraged on st Paddy's day, not so sure about the Scottish saltire but even so why shouldn't you be able to flag your national flag? St George's day is alway forgotten." It's quite forgettable, to be fair. | |||
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"Birmingham city council staff have been removing the St George cross and the Union flag from the streets of Birmingham while leaving in place flags from other countries such as Pakistan and Gaza If flags pose a health and safety concern, why not all flags? If some type of “planning permission” was required, why not all flags? I have a suspicion it’s neither of those things. Racial hatred, that’s the real reason. Hatred of Britain. Go to Pakistan and try the reverse. Or India. Looking forward to the lefties in here explaining these actions of a Labour council. " I'm a proud lefty, living in South Birmingham. There are about 50 flags currently flying within 100 yards of my home. None have been taken down. Yesterday I travelled to other parts of Brum, with a higher proportion of Asian residents. Fewer St George / Union Flags, but I didn't see any other types of flags on lampposts. Two years ago, an Italian neighbour had a (small) EU flag in his garden. It was torn down the same night his car was damaged. I wish I could be proud of my national flag, but I feel it has been tarnished by the way racists hide behind it. | |||
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"And reform led councils are banning the pride flag from being flown from council buildings. Is that because the LGBTQ+ community is so dangerous? Why should a pride flag fly from a council building? " Because councils (should) represent their whole community | |||
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"Birmingham city council staff have been removing the St George cross and the Union flag from the streets of Birmingham while leaving in place flags from other countries such as Pakistan and Gaza evidence is needed for this garbage" it's not garbage! Palestinian flags have been flying in my area for a couple of years now and also where I work and nobody has ever mentioned it Or had a problem with it . | |||
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"And reform led councils are banning the pride flag from being flown from council buildings. Is that because the LGBTQ+ community is so dangerous? Why should a pride flag fly from a council building? Because councils (should) represent their whole community" So i say again, if they don’t fly a pride flag on a building, in your opinion, that means they are against LGBT? There’s over 170,000 registered charities in the uk. Theres no data on how many have a “flag” but id bet most have got some sort of logo or emblem that could be printed onto a flag. So every public building should fly 170,000 flags? Are these 170,000 flags along with the required flag poles and their installation, being paid for out of council tax revenue? | |||
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"And reform led councils are banning the pride flag from being flown from council buildings. Is that because the LGBTQ+ community is so dangerous? Why should a pride flag fly from a council building? Because councils (should) represent their whole community So i say again, if they don’t fly a pride flag on a building, in your opinion, that means they are against LGBT? There’s over 170,000 registered charities in the uk. Theres no data on how many have a “flag” but id bet most have got some sort of logo or emblem that could be printed onto a flag. So every public building should fly 170,000 flags? Are these 170,000 flags along with the required flag poles and their installation, being paid for out of council tax revenue? " The complaint isn't that they're not flying it. The complaint is it's being actively banned. | |||
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"And reform led councils are banning the pride flag from being flown from council buildings. Is that because the LGBTQ+ community is so dangerous? Why should a pride flag fly from a council building? Because councils (should) represent their whole community So i say again, if they don’t fly a pride flag on a building, in your opinion, that means they are against LGBT? There’s over 170,000 registered charities in the uk. Theres no data on how many have a “flag” but id bet most have got some sort of logo or emblem that could be printed onto a flag. So every public building should fly 170,000 flags? Are these 170,000 flags along with the required flag poles and their installation, being paid for out of council tax revenue? The complaint isn't that they're not flying it. The complaint is it's being actively banned." I saw a pride flag only today, they are not banned! | |||
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"And reform led councils are banning the pride flag from being flown from council buildings. Is that because the LGBTQ+ community is so dangerous? Why should a pride flag fly from a council building? Because councils (should) represent their whole community So i say again, if they don’t fly a pride flag on a building, in your opinion, that means they are against LGBT? There’s over 170,000 registered charities in the uk. Theres no data on how many have a “flag” but id bet most have got some sort of logo or emblem that could be printed onto a flag. So every public building should fly 170,000 flags? Are these 170,000 flags along with the required flag poles and their installation, being paid for out of council tax revenue? The complaint isn't that they're not flying it. The complaint is it's being actively banned. I saw a pride flag only today, they are not banned! " Was it flying from a Reform-led council building, demonstrating that Reform aren't in fact banning flying the rainbow? If it was then the above complainant was wrong and there's no problem. | |||
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"And reform led councils are banning the pride flag from being flown from council buildings. Is that because the LGBTQ+ community is so dangerous? Why should a pride flag fly from a council building? Because councils (should) represent their whole community So i say again, if they don’t fly a pride flag on a building, in your opinion, that means they are against LGBT? There’s over 170,000 registered charities in the uk. Theres no data on how many have a “flag” but id bet most have got some sort of logo or emblem that could be printed onto a flag. So every public building should fly 170,000 flags? Are these 170,000 flags along with the required flag poles and their installation, being paid for out of council tax revenue? The complaint isn't that they're not flying it. The complaint is it's being actively banned. I saw a pride flag only today, they are not banned! Was it flying from a Reform-led council building, demonstrating that Reform aren't in fact banning flying the rainbow? If it was then the above complainant was wrong and there's no problem." You said the complaint is it’s being banned. I said I’d seen one (more than one actually) so it can’t be banned. (Unless they were breaking the law which I’m pretty sure they weren’t) I’ve got a 4 hour drive today from one side of England to the other (North Sea to Severn Estuary) and I bet I see quite a few. | |||
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". You said the complaint is it’s being banned. I said I’d seen one (more than one actually) so it can’t be banned. (Unless they were breaking the law which I’m pretty sure they weren’t) I’ve got a 4 hour drive today from one side of England to the other (North Sea to Severn Estuary) and I bet I see quite a few. " The complaint is it's being banned from being flown on Reform-led council property. So I'll ask again, is that where you saw it? | |||
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"To clarify, the news article was that Reform led councils were banning the flying of any flags other than the union flag, St George's Flag or the county flag from all council buildings under their control. So yes, the pride flag will not be flown from council buildings under reform control. " What was the source? Interested to read it. | |||
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"So it’s not a banned item, it’s just not being flown at certain locations And we’ve established with over 170,000 options available, every building can’t fly every flag. I really can’t see what the issue is here other than some people are not getting their personal preferences. But not everyone can. " If the only flags permitted in Reform-led councils buildings are British national and county flags then all other flags are de-facto banned at those locations, including the pride flag. Also flags like the Ukrainian flag and the Black History Month flag are de-facto banned. Weird that you don't think that's an issue, as the author of a thread lamenting the removal of flags. | |||
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"So it’s not a banned item, it’s just not being flown at certain locations And we’ve established with over 170,000 options available, every building can’t fly every flag. I really can’t see what the issue is here other than some people are not getting their personal preferences. But not everyone can. If the only flags permitted in Reform-led councils buildings are British national and county flags then all other flags are de-facto banned at those locations, including the pride flag. Also flags like the Ukrainian flag and the Black History Month flag are de-facto banned. Weird that you don't think that's an issue, as the author of a thread lamenting the removal of flags." So in your world does everyone have to have the same preferences? Or just have the same as you? Or do you think yours are more important to the general public than anyone else’s? If a council removed the union flag and just flew the North Korean flag instead would that be ok? Is it a case of any flag except the union flag is ok? An article in the guardian online seems to suggest that flying a union flag in the UK is racist. And flying a St George’s Cross is racist. I assume flying a Hamas flag would be considered ok tho. | |||
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" So in your world does everyone have to have the same preferences? Or just have the same as you? Or do you think yours are more important to the general public than anyone else’s? If a council removed the union flag and just flew the North Korean flag instead would that be ok? Is it a case of any flag except the union flag is ok? An article in the guardian online seems to suggest that flying a union flag in the UK is racist. And flying a St George’s Cross is racist. I assume flying a Hamas flag would be considered ok tho. " You tell me, man. You made a thread to shriek about Birmingham council's "racial hatred" and "hatred of Britain" because of some half-assed article's inaccurate summary of their apparently patchy enforcement of removing stuff people have hung up on lampposts. On the other hand, some councils actually ban any flags other than the gammon cross and the britpop flag on their turf, and you're all like "whatever man, flags are just, like, a preference or something". | |||
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"a flag has no meaning Pretty sure this is in the thread, somewhere. " A flag has little meaning for some, and immense meaning for others. For people who spend their life on one country, with like-minded people, it probably has no meaning at all. What is the point of identity when everyone is identical? When someone is a traveller, the flag represents something. Even online, you instinctively look for the union jack on a website in the top right corner to get the English version (yeah, it's sometimes a US flag  ). You see the flag of your country, and you feel welcomed. Or perhaps you know that you'll find people who understand you and your culture, perhaps expats.
Sportspeople, especially in international teams, find their group under a flag, feel pride even their flag is raised. LGBTQ people know they can feel safe and welcomed in establishments flying a rainbow flag, especially in conservative countries.
For those who serve in the military (or civilians in dangerous zones), a flag represents safety, home, your "group" - that feeling is immense. Especially after emerging from hostile or hairy situations.
Those are some of the positive feelings that some people get from flags. There are, of course, negative sentiments - the flag of an opposing army or group can inspire hatred or terror.
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" I started the thread. It’s about flags! I can agree that you did indeed start the thread and you titled it 'Flags'. That's about it. I started the thread. It’s about flags! Keep repeating yourself as much as you like.
Wasn’t aware I needed your permission. When did Starmer pass that law? "You stated earlier you haven't been groomed by the fascist element of the right wing, but you just happen to regurgitate every single one of their untrue click bait talking points. That's quite the coincidence. | |||
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" The LGBTQ Flag (and now the Palestine flag) are in reality just the new flags of the Globalist Left as a replacement for national affiliation, and a reminder that we are all living in a Globalist Left colony. It’s a pretty sad state of affairs that the national flags have become a symbol of resistance against this occupation." I think your hinges may have come loose. | |||
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"We’ll find over time that the Union Flag and St George’s Cross will just be phased out. On a recent trip to Canada it was fascinating that every public building was flying the LGBTQ Flag, far more prominently than the Canadian flag. Even quite incongruously in small Canadian towns with just a few farms and houses. Presumably by centralised edict. We’d see the same thing in many Anglosphere countries and obviously of course in Leftist controlled areas of Britain. Certainly the US under Biden (famously the US embassy was flying the LGBTQ Flag the day that the US fled from the Taliban). How laughable that must have been. The LGBTQ Flag (and now the Palestine flag) are in reality just the new flags of the Globalist Left as a replacement for national affiliation, and a reminder that we are all living in a Globalist Left colony. It’s a pretty sad state of affairs that the national flags have become a symbol of resistance against this occupation." This reads like an AI generated flag based conspiracy theory. | |||
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"We’ll find over time that the Union Flag and St George’s Cross will just be phased out. On a recent trip to Canada it was fascinating that every public building was flying the LGBTQ Flag, far more prominently than the Canadian flag. Even quite incongruously in small Canadian towns with just a few farms and houses. Presumably by centralised edict. We’d see the same thing in many Anglosphere countries and obviously of course in Leftist controlled areas of Britain. Certainly the US under Biden (famously the US embassy was flying the LGBTQ Flag the day that the US fled from the Taliban). How laughable that must have been. The LGBTQ Flag (and now the Palestine flag) are in reality just the new flags of the Globalist Left as a replacement for national affiliation, and a reminder that we are all living in a Globalist Left colony. It’s a pretty sad state of affairs that the national flags have become a symbol of resistance against this occupation. This reads like an AI generated flag based conspiracy theory." Says the bot who thinks “Big Oil” controls the world. | |||
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" The LGBTQ Flag (and now the Palestine flag) are in reality just the new flags of the Globalist Left as a replacement for national affiliation, and a reminder that we are all living in a Globalist Left colony. It’s a pretty sad state of affairs that the national flags have become a symbol of resistance against this occupation. I think your hinges may have come loose." Another day of dealing with thick racists. I don’t know how you cope having to flaunt your moral rectitude on a swingers website 24/7. | |||
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"We’ll find over time that the Union Flag and St George’s Cross will just be phased out. On a recent trip to Canada it was fascinating that every public building was flying the LGBTQ Flag, far more prominently than the Canadian flag. Even quite incongruously in small Canadian towns with just a few farms and houses. Presumably by centralised edict. We’d see the same thing in many Anglosphere countries and obviously of course in Leftist controlled areas of Britain. Certainly the US under Biden (famously the US embassy was flying the LGBTQ Flag the day that the US fled from the Taliban). How laughable that must have been. The LGBTQ Flag (and now the Palestine flag) are in reality just the new flags of the Globalist Left as a replacement for national affiliation, and a reminder that we are all living in a Globalist Left colony. It’s a pretty sad state of affairs that the national flags have become a symbol of resistance against this occupation. This reads like an AI generated flag based conspiracy theory. Says the bot who thinks “Big Oil” controls the world." Why the quote marks? Do you think the global oil market doesn't exist? | |||
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" The LGBTQ Flag (and now the Palestine flag) are in reality just the new flags of the Globalist Left as a replacement for national affiliation, and a reminder that we are all living in a Globalist Left colony. It’s a pretty sad state of affairs that the national flags have become a symbol of resistance against this occupation. I think your hinges may have come loose. Another day of dealing with thick racists. I don’t know how you cope having to flaunt your moral rectitude on a swingers website 24/7." Do you own any mirrors, or...? | |||
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"We’ll find over time that the Union Flag and St George’s Cross will just be phased out. On a recent trip to Canada it was fascinating that every public building was flying the LGBTQ Flag, far more prominently than the Canadian flag. Even quite incongruously in small Canadian towns with just a few farms and houses. Presumably by centralised edict. We’d see the same thing in many Anglosphere countries and obviously of course in Leftist controlled areas of Britain. Certainly the US under Biden (famously the US embassy was flying the LGBTQ Flag the day that the US fled from the Taliban). How laughable that must have been. The LGBTQ Flag (and now the Palestine flag) are in reality just the new flags of the Globalist Left as a replacement for national affiliation, and a reminder that we are all living in a Globalist Left colony. It’s a pretty sad state of affairs that the national flags have become a symbol of resistance against this occupation. This reads like an AI generated flag based conspiracy theory. Says the bot who thinks “Big Oil” controls the world." I mean there's no conspiracy there. Fossil fuels industry donates to political parties and is handsomely rewarded. Meanwhile LGBTQ flags... "in small Canadian towns with just a few farms and houses. Presumably by centralised edict." | |||
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"We’ll find over time that the Union Flag and St George’s Cross will just be phased out. On a recent trip to Canada it was fascinating that every public building was flying the LGBTQ Flag, far more prominently than the Canadian flag. Even quite incongruously in small Canadian towns with just a few farms and houses. Presumably by centralised edict. We’d see the same thing in many Anglosphere countries and obviously of course in Leftist controlled areas of Britain. Certainly the US under Biden (famously the US embassy was flying the LGBTQ Flag the day that the US fled from the Taliban). How laughable that must have been. The LGBTQ Flag (and now the Palestine flag) are in reality just the new flags of the Globalist Left as a replacement for national affiliation, and a reminder that we are all living in a Globalist Left colony. It’s a pretty sad state of affairs that the national flags have become a symbol of resistance against this occupation." Simply not true. It's so hard to have a grown up debate when there are so many lies flying around | |||
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