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"Trump...did nothing in her presence that would implicate him."

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By *arry and Megs OP   Couple
39 weeks ago

Ipswich

Allegedly words from Ms Maxwell before being moved to a "cushy" prison

In her presence ..... Not exactly convincing of innocence ?

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By *otMe66Man
39 weeks ago

Terra Firma

I’m not following your logic. Saying “in her presence” is perfectly reasonable, anything beyond that would be speculation or hearsay.

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By *illybeachboyMan
39 weeks ago

Guernsey

Saying he did would implicate her too.

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By (user no longer on site)
39 weeks ago

“There are no witnesses to Trump doing anything wrong!

That proves he is guilty!

An innocent man would always have witnesses to attest his innocence”!

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By *arry and Megs OP   Couple
39 weeks ago

Ipswich


"“There are no witnesses to Trump doing anything wrong!

That proves he is guilty!

An innocent man would always have witnesses to attest his innocence”!"

Why would he need to prove his innocence ?

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple
39 weeks ago

Border of London

Apropos of nothing...

“I didn't do it. Nobody saw me do it. You can't prove anything.”

— Bart Simpson, The Simpsons, Season 1: Moaning Lisa

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman
39 weeks ago

Carlisle usually

Abusers spend at least as much energy grooming allies as they do victims 💜

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By *enny PR9TV/TS
39 weeks ago

Southport

I'm very much enjoying watching Trump being consumed by the very conspiracy he cynically helped create, and now can't control.

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By *acktopervMan
39 weeks ago

Stourport-On-Severn


"Abusers spend at least as much energy grooming allies as they do victims 💜"

Of course they do. In fact abusers are drawn to and form close relationships with other abusers. They need to do this to be able to carry on abusing without drawing attention to themselves. This is exactly how for so many decades the Catholic church (and the Church Of England) managed to hide the abuse by iit's own clergy (including nuns).

Maxwell saying what she said was totally predictable, one convicted abuser covering for a yet to be convicted abuser.

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By *otMe66Man
39 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"Abusers spend at least as much energy grooming allies as they do victims 💜

Of course they do. In fact abusers are drawn to and form close relationships with other abusers. They need to do this to be able to carry on abusing without drawing attention to themselves. This is exactly how for so many decades the Catholic church (and the Church Of England) managed to hide the abuse by iit's own clergy (including nuns).

Maxwell saying what she said was totally predictable, one convicted abuser covering for a yet to be convicted abuser."

That is a strong allegation! I would be interested to hear what you know.

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By *acktopervMan
39 weeks ago

Stourport-On-Severn


"Abusers spend at least as much energy grooming allies as they do victims 💜

Of course they do. In fact abusers are drawn to and form close relationships with other abusers. They need to do this to be able to carry on abusing without drawing attention to themselves. This is exactly how for so many decades the Catholic church (and the Church Of England) managed to hide the abuse by iit's own clergy (including nuns).

Maxwell saying what she said was totally predictable, one convicted abuser covering for a yet to be convicted abuser.

That is a strong allegation! I would be interested to hear what you know."

"what you know"

I only what has been reported as to what Maxwell said.

If you are referring to the Catholic church and the COE, in the late 1970's i did a thesis and then a report based on the Catholic church in The Republic of Ireland. Both became an earlier pre-curser to much latter reports in the 1980's. These in turn caused the closure of Catholic children's homes in both the UK and The Republic of Ireland.

During the course of this i met and interviewd 100's of abusers. The lesson that came out of this is that ALL abusers share common traits and methods of instigating that abuse. That stands true for Maxwell and Epstein, it's also clear from my research that they would of had a close circle of like minded abusers.

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By (user no longer on site)
39 weeks ago


"Abusers spend at least as much energy grooming allies as they do victims 💜

Of course they do. In fact abusers are drawn to and form close relationships with other abusers. They need to do this to be able to carry on abusing without drawing attention to themselves. This is exactly how for so many decades the Catholic church (and the Church Of England) managed to hide the abuse by iit's own clergy (including nuns).

Maxwell saying what she said was totally predictable, one convicted abuser covering for a yet to be convicted abuser."

So if the police knock on my door and ask if I am aware that someone has alleged that my neighbour has been abusing children and I respond “no I’m not aware of anything he always seems so pleasant when we chat about the weather over the fence but I know nothing beyond that” then it’s all a cover up and it just proves my neighbour’s guilt?

Sounds like we are living in North Korea.

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By *otMe66Man
39 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"Abusers spend at least as much energy grooming allies as they do victims 💜

Of course they do. In fact abusers are drawn to and form close relationships with other abusers. They need to do this to be able to carry on abusing without drawing attention to themselves. This is exactly how for so many decades the Catholic church (and the Church Of England) managed to hide the abuse by iit's own clergy (including nuns).

Maxwell saying what she said was totally predictable, one convicted abuser covering for a yet to be convicted abuser.

That is a strong allegation! I would be interested to hear what you know.

"what you know"

I only what has been reported as to what Maxwell said.

If you are referring to the Catholic church and the COE, in the late 1970's i did a thesis and then a report based on the Catholic church in The Republic of Ireland. Both became an earlier pre-curser to much latter reports in the 1980's. These in turn caused the closure of Catholic children's homes in both the UK and The Republic of Ireland.

During the course of this i met and interviewd 100's of abusers. The lesson that came out of this is that ALL abusers share common traits and methods of instigating that abuse. That stands true for Maxwell and Epstein, it's also clear from my research that they would of had a close circle of like minded abusers."

Ah I see. I read your post as Maxwell was protecting Trump who is yet to be convicted.

Which obviously must be incorrect if as you say, you are only responding to what Maxwell was reported to have said

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By *enny PR9TV/TS
39 weeks ago

Southport

Breaking news: criminally adjudicated sex abuser says civilly adjudicated sex abuser never did anything concerning around her.

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By *uffolkcouple-bi onlyCouple
39 weeks ago

West Suffolk

For some, holding certain political views makes you guilty.

I’ve no idea what did or didn’t happen because I wasn’t there to witness anything, and neither was anyone else in this forum, unless you want to say different.

Deciding someone’s guilt of sexual offences based on you not agreeing with their politics? Wow, just wow 😮

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
39 weeks ago

in Lancashire

Not sure why that would surprise anyone, some people make assumptions based upon many things..

The way someone dresses, the colour of their skin,their postcode or nationality..

Not saying it's right but it's how it's been for thousands of years..

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By *acktopervMan
39 weeks ago

Stourport-On-Severn

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By *uffolkcouple-bi onlyCouple
39 weeks ago

West Suffolk


"Not sure why that would surprise anyone, some people make assumptions based upon many things..

The way someone dresses, the colour of their skin,their postcode or nationality..

Not saying it's right but it's how it's been for thousands of years.."

It’s a choice people make. Says more about them than it does the person they want to attack

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
39 weeks ago

in Lancashire


"Abusers spend at least as much energy grooming allies as they do victims 💜

Of course they do. In fact abusers are drawn to and form close relationships with other abusers. They need to do this to be able to carry on abusing without drawing attention to themselves. This is exactly how for so many decades the Catholic church (and the Church Of England) managed to hide the abuse by iit's own clergy (including nuns).

Maxwell saying what she said was totally predictable, one convicted abuser covering for a yet to be convicted abuser.

So if the police knock on my door and ask if I am aware that someone has alleged that my neighbour has been abusing children and I respond “no I’m not aware of anything he always seems so pleasant when we chat about the weather over the fence but I know nothing beyond that” then it’s all a cover up and it just proves my neighbour’s guilt?

Sounds like we are living in North Korea.

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The police will never do that..

They simply won't divulge the allegations that specifically at any stage of an investigation especially with something so emotional and sensitive an issue..

Apart from their own internal professional standards etc there's the Police and Criminal Evidence Act they must work to in relation to not jeopardizing any possible court case..

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
39 weeks ago

in Lancashire


"Not sure why that would surprise anyone, some people make assumptions based upon many things..

The way someone dresses, the colour of their skin,their postcode or nationality..

Not saying it's right but it's how it's been for thousands of years..

It’s a choice people make. Says more about them than it does the person they want to attack "

Well yes..

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By (user no longer on site)
39 weeks ago

Trump is set to meet his line manager soon, Friday 15th. That'll be a good distraction.

Yesterday was a significant deadline too. Which absolutely fuck all happened on.

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By (user no longer on site)
39 weeks ago

No one protested this threat to our women???

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