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"Unless there’s a serious change this country is fucked at the next election. It looked like the main option was going to be reform, in which case we’re fucked, now you’ve got the new jezbollah party, in which case we’re fucked. We’re back to deciding which we want least and voting for the other. Either way we’re doomed." Corbyn's party won't be allowed anywhere near power. In the meantime the system of parliamentary democracy will continue to roll over normal people and work in favour of whichever corporations and wealthy individuals donated the most to their election campaigns. | |||
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"Unless there’s a serious change this country is fucked at the next election. It looked like the main option was going to be reform, in which case we’re fucked, now you’ve got the new jezbollah party, in which case we’re fucked. We’re back to deciding which we want least and voting for the other. Either way we’re doomed. Corbyn's party won't be allowed anywhere near power. In the meantime the system of parliamentary democracy will continue to roll over normal people and work in favour of whichever corporations and wealthy individuals donated the most to their election campaigns. " Though am inclined to agree with your statement. You were the guy saying Labour would never win the last election, went on and on about it at every opportunity. So I would stop making predictions if I was you. | |||
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"Unless there’s a serious change this country is fucked at the next election. It looked like the main option was going to be reform, in which case we’re fucked, now you’ve got the new jezbollah party, in which case we’re fucked. We’re back to deciding which we want least and voting for the other. Either way we’re doomed. Corbyn's party won't be allowed anywhere near power. In the meantime the system of parliamentary democracy will continue to roll over normal people and work in favour of whichever corporations and wealthy individuals donated the most to their election campaigns. Though am inclined to agree with your statement. You were the guy saying Labour would never win the last election, went on and on about it at every opportunity. So I would stop making predictions if I was you." I was genuinely surprised the Labour won. I didn't predict that so many Tories would defect to the ultra-Tories. We live and learn. But with Corbyn. Last time he gained traction he was destroyed with a sustained and targeted campaign against him. Medialens documented it, it's an interesting read. It's my opinion that no political party offering any meaningful change (in favour of British people) will ever be allowed in power. | |||
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"Good old Jeremy at least he will help finish any hope Kier has, but at the end of the day it is not going to make any difference who is in power the demands on the money available far exceeds the countries ability to fund it." Hard decisions need to made by both sides. The left need to realise we can't keep funding the current health and benefit system the way we are. The right also need to realise we can't keep letting the rich and powerful get away with tax loopholes and drain money out the country while enjoying its facilities. But who will tackle both..? | |||
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"Good old Jeremy at least he will help finish any hope Kier has, but at the end of the day it is not going to make any difference who is in power the demands on the money available far exceeds the countries ability to fund it." This be party has almost guaranteed reform the win at the next election, which is in itself a disaster. | |||
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"Good old Jeremy at least he will help finish any hope Kier has, but at the end of the day it is not going to make any difference who is in power the demands on the money available far exceeds the countries ability to fund it. This be party has almost guaranteed reform the win at the next election, which is in itself a disaster." I think the Tories do makes more of a difference on Reform support. At the moment they are rudderless and in decline.. | |||
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"Good old Jeremy at least he will help finish any hope Kier has, but at the end of the day it is not going to make any difference who is in power the demands on the money available far exceeds the countries ability to fund it. This be party has almost guaranteed reform the win at the next election, which is in itself a disaster. I think the Tories do makes more of a difference on Reform support. At the moment they are rudderless and in decline.." Yes, but that’s already place reform at the forefront, jezbollah party is making their win a foregone conclusion. It’ll take some of labours support away, and push moderate conservatives, centrists towards reform as the alternative is frankly not an option. | |||
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"There is no magic money tree" There is if you're a big corporation or very wealthy private individual who donates a lot of money to an election campaign. | |||
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"Good old Jeremy at least he will help finish any hope Kier has, but at the end of the day it is not going to make any difference who is in power the demands on the money available far exceeds the countries ability to fund it. This be party has almost guaranteed reform the win at the next election, which is in itself a disaster. I think the Tories do makes more of a difference on Reform support. At the moment they are rudderless and in decline.." I don't envy Kemi or any other Tory leader in the near future. No matter what they criticise the Labour for, people will always ask them "You were in power for more than a decade. What did you do then?" The Tories screwed up on pretty much every promise they made. Promising to lower immigration and leaving with a record breaking immigration record isn't going to be forgotten easily by people. So unless Reform does a major screw up, they are well on track to win the next election. It would probably need another election before people forget what the Tories did in the past. That would probably also mean a different leader who isn't attached anyway to their last stint as ruling party. | |||
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"There is no magic money tree There is if you're a big corporation or very wealthy private individual who donates a lot of money to an election campaign." That's their choice, not magic | |||
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"There is no magic money tree There is if you're a big corporation or very wealthy private individual who donates a lot of money to an election campaign." Party for the ordinary people ? The top 5 donors for Reform UK are Christopher Harborne (£10,190,000.00), Jeremy J Hosking (£1,718,000.00), Leave Means Leave Ltd (£990,000.00), Fiona Cottrell (£750,000.00), and Britain Means Business Ltd (£654,919.17). The largest individual donation, totaling £2,000,000.00, was made by Christopher Harborne on October 11, 2019. The Reform UK's most significant contributor is Christopher Harborne, with a total donation amount of £10,190,000.00. | |||
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"There is no magic money tree There is if you're a big corporation or very wealthy private individual who donates a lot of money to an election campaign. That's their choice, not magic" Erm what? | |||
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"There is no magic money tree There is if you're a big corporation or very wealthy private individual who donates a lot of money to an election campaign. Party for the ordinary people ? The top 5 donors for Reform UK are Christopher Harborne (£10,190,000.00), Jeremy J Hosking (£1,718,000.00), Leave Means Leave Ltd (£990,000.00), Fiona Cottrell (£750,000.00), and Britain Means Business Ltd (£654,919.17). The largest individual donation, totaling £2,000,000.00, was made by Christopher Harborne on October 11, 2019. The Reform UK's most significant contributor is Christopher Harborne, with a total donation amount of £10,190,000.00." Exactly. | |||
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"There is no magic money tree There is if you're a big corporation or very wealthy private individual who donates a lot of money to an election campaign. Party for the ordinary people ? The top 5 donors for Reform UK are Christopher Harborne (£10,190,000.00), Jeremy J Hosking (£1,718,000.00), Leave Means Leave Ltd (£990,000.00), Fiona Cottrell (£750,000.00), and Britain Means Business Ltd (£654,919.17). The largest individual donation, totaling £2,000,000.00, was made by Christopher Harborne on October 11, 2019. The Reform UK's most significant contributor is Christopher Harborne, with a total donation amount of £10,190,000.00." A good bit more than Labours top 20 donations: Ecotricity Limited – £1,000,000.00 Martin Taylor – £700,000.00 House of Commons – £627,329.41 House of Commons – £627,329.41 House of Commons – £627,329.40 Ecotricity Limited – £500,000.00 Unite the Union – £362,625.00 GMB – £290,125.00 Transilluminate Limited – £250,000.00 Mr Danny Luhde-Thompson – £250,000.00 Mr Derek Webb – £250,000.00 Mr Gary Lubner – £239,000.00 Union of Shop, Distributive and Allied Workers (USDAW) – £213,574.42 Ms Laura Bailey – £200,000.00 Mr Grayson Perry CBE – £180,000.00 Labour Together Limited – £166,567.00 UNISON – £158,175.00 House of Lords – £157,139.71 West Midlands Breakfast Club – £130,530.00 Mr Gary Lubner – £112,500.00 | |||
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"It's hard to predict what might happen at the next general election. For Reform to win they'll need to come up with a realistic wide-ranging platform rather than focusing on just immigration. People might have strong feelings about immigration but translating that into a majority in Parliament doesn't seem realistic to me. I was surprised by Farage saying he wanted to raise the retirement age faster than anyone else has currently planned. If he holds to that Idea he'll lose almost everybody in their early 60's as they aren't going to vote to become £12,000+ worse off. The Tories will need to ditch Badenoch as she has no vision of the future and those on the right of the Tories are never going to vote for her party no matter how far to the right she lurches as they love Nigel. The Tories need to move back towards the centre to recover former Tories who shifted to Labour last time. I have no idea who could be a new leader capable of pulling this off though. People on the left will vote tactically to stop Reform at all costs. Even if that means holding their noses and voting Tory in some seats. But most will vote Labour, LibDem, Green or any other vaugely left of centre candidates depending on the local polling. My tentative prediction is an informal Labour/LibDem/Green alliance forming before the election and a formal coalition between Labour and the LibDems in the next Parliament ruling in a similar manner to the Cameron/Clegg administration. " You raise a very interesting point about the pension age. People live on state pension for twice as long as they did previously so i believe the age should rise. Either that or national insurance should go up to pay for it. But that will be a very unpopular policy with anyone under pension age, which is most voters. But people can’t have it both ways. Whilst you’re not withdrawing funds you’ve paid in, the amount coming out should be relative to what’s paid in. It’s not reasonable to expect to draw more out without paying more in. | |||
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"It's hard to predict what might happen at the next general election. For Reform to win they'll need to come up with a realistic wide-ranging platform rather than focusing on just immigration." I don't think that's the case. I think if they just continue not being Labour or the Tories, they'll get in whatever their policies are (or aren't). | |||
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"It's hard to predict what might happen at the next general election. For Reform to win they'll need to come up with a realistic wide-ranging platform rather than focusing on just immigration. People might have strong feelings about immigration but translating that into a majority in Parliament doesn't seem realistic to me. I was surprised by Farage saying he wanted to raise the retirement age faster than anyone else has currently planned. If he holds to that Idea he'll lose almost everybody in their early 60's as they aren't going to vote to become £12,000+ worse off. The Tories will need to ditch Badenoch as she has no vision of the future and those on the right of the Tories are never going to vote for her party no matter how far to the right she lurches as they love Nigel. The Tories need to move back towards the centre to recover former Tories who shifted to Labour last time. I have no idea who could be a new leader capable of pulling this off though. People on the left will vote tactically to stop Reform at all costs. Even if that means holding their noses and voting Tory in some seats. But most will vote Labour, LibDem, Green or any other vaugely left of centre candidates depending on the local polling. My tentative prediction is an informal Labour/LibDem/Green alliance forming before the election and a formal coalition between Labour and the LibDems in the next Parliament ruling in a similar manner to the Cameron/Clegg administration. " i think we're heading for coalition or possibly confidence and supply of some sort. on pension age increase it would be unworkable unless those with private pensions were also forced to carry on to retirement mandatarily and given the choice, most would rather pay a couple of pence increase in tax than go down that route. | |||
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"It's hard to predict what might happen at the next general election. For Reform to win they'll need to come up with a realistic wide-ranging platform rather than focusing on just immigration. I don't think that's the case. I think if they just continue not being Labour or the Tories, they'll get in whatever their policies are (or aren't)." I kind of agree. The anti-immigrant rhetoric since the Brexit referendum has been stratospheric to the point of a large portion of the electorate voting in a blind panic regardless of the potential cost. | |||
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"It's hard to predict what might happen at the next general election. For Reform to win they'll need to come up with a realistic wide-ranging platform rather than focusing on just immigration. I don't think that's the case. I think if they just continue not being Labour or the Tories, they'll get in whatever their policies are (or aren't). I kind of agree. The anti-immigrant rhetoric since the Brexit referendum has been stratospheric to the point of a large portion of the electorate voting in a blind panic regardless of the potential cost." If Tories and Labour respect democracy, then people wouldn't be voting for Reform. | |||
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"It's hard to predict what might happen at the next general election. For Reform to win they'll need to come up with a realistic wide-ranging platform rather than focusing on just immigration. I don't think that's the case. I think if they just continue not being Labour or the Tories, they'll get in whatever their policies are (or aren't). I kind of agree. The anti-immigrant rhetoric since the Brexit referendum has been stratospheric to the point of a large portion of the electorate voting in a blind panic regardless of the potential cost. If Tories and Labour respect democracy, then people wouldn't be voting for Reform." if, as you so wildly claim, labour and torys don't respect democracy, then reform will never form a government ... ever | |||
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"It's hard to predict what might happen at the next general election. For Reform to win they'll need to come up with a realistic wide-ranging platform rather than focusing on just immigration. I don't think that's the case. I think if they just continue not being Labour or the Tories, they'll get in whatever their policies are (or aren't). I kind of agree. The anti-immigrant rhetoric since the Brexit referendum has been stratospheric to the point of a large portion of the electorate voting in a blind panic regardless of the potential cost. If Tories and Labour respect democracy, then people wouldn't be voting for Reform." So true. The solution here is so simple for Labour. They need to refocus on economic growth and stop the invasion. Then people won’t need to turn to Reform. They won’t be able to do it. On the economy they have too little understanding or experience of business or finance. So they just focus on the narrow tribal interests of their voter base regardless of the economic cost to the vast majority of the population. And the idea of actually controlling the borders is anathema to them, so that won’t happen either. | |||
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"People voted for “change” on the basis it couldn’t be worse than the previous government. Of course, it is much worse and there won’t be much left by 2029. Voting for a slogan or a single word in the absence of policies just shows how stupid the general public are. Unfortunately the quality of the current crop of politicians (of whatever party) is extremely poor. Nobody has the courage to take hard decisions and they all pander to the status quo. It isn’t helped by the obstructive and left wing civil service." Short memory if you think this govt is worse than Tory incompetence over 15 years. Unreal | |||
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"Unless there’s a serious change this country is fucked at the next election. It looked like the main option was going to be reform, in which case we’re fucked, now you’ve got the new jezbollah party, in which case we’re fucked. We’re back to deciding which we want least and voting for the other. Either way we’re doomed." That's always been the British system. In fact, this was supposed to be the most left wing parliament in history. However, labour are chasing Reform voters And, of you look at the Palestinian independents they actually vote socially conservative. We're entering a period of fractionslism. It's going to be interesting with our FPTP system to see what happens. However Wales will show you the direction next May but we have a completely representative vote next year | |||
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"People voted for “change” on the basis it couldn’t be worse than the previous government. Of course, it is much worse and there won’t be much left by 2029. Voting for a slogan or a single word in the absence of policies just shows how stupid the general public are. Unfortunately the quality of the current crop of politicians (of whatever party) is extremely poor. Nobody has the courage to take hard decisions and they all pander to the status quo. It isn’t helped by the obstructive and left wing civil service. Short memory if you think this govt is worse than Tory incompetence over 15 years. Unreal" Of course the Tories were incompetent and wasted their time in power. This lot are worse. They are destructive and dangerous. | |||
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"People voted for “change” on the basis it couldn’t be worse than the previous government. Of course, it is much worse and there won’t be much left by 2029. Voting for a slogan or a single word in the absence of policies just shows how stupid the general public are. Unfortunately the quality of the current crop of politicians (of whatever party) is extremely poor. Nobody has the courage to take hard decisions and they all pander to the status quo. It isn’t helped by the obstructive and left wing civil service. Short memory if you think this govt is worse than Tory incompetence over 15 years. Unreal Of course the Tories were incompetent and wasted their time in power." I disagree. The Tories made the most of their time in power. A lot of them did very well for themselves, focussing on disaster capitalism. And a lot of Tory party donors become even more wealthy through dodgy PPE contracts etc. " This lot are worse. They are destructive and dangerous." A testament to the power of the media. | |||
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"Unless there’s a serious change this country is fucked at the next election. It looked like the main option was going to be reform, in which case we’re fucked, now you’ve got the new jezbollah party, in which case we’re fucked. We’re back to deciding which we want least and voting for the other. Either way we’re doomed. That's always been the British system. In fact, this was supposed to be the most left wing parliament in history. However, labour are chasing Reform voters And, of you look at the Palestinian independents they actually vote socially conservative. We're entering a period of fractionslism. It's going to be interesting with our FPTP system to see what happens. However Wales will show you the direction next May but we have a completely representative vote next year " Time was, Labour could field a lamp post as candidate in Wales and still get people's vote. The only alternative was language obsessed Plaid. But things are different now, and the political landscape is more open. Let's see. | |||
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"This lot are worse. They are destructive and dangerous. A testament to the power of the media. " Really? Increased taxes, failing economy, increased illegal immigration, giving away strategic bases etc… Destructive and dangerous. | |||
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"This lot are worse. They are destructive and dangerous. A testament to the power of the media. Really? Increased taxes, failing economy, increased illegal immigration, giving away strategic bases etc… Destructive and dangerous." People have short memories. Under Tory rule we had, as a couple of examples. Austerity Brexit Culture wars, blaming foreigners, war on homeless people, trans people, people who eat tofu Rise in hate crime Billions given to their friends in covid contracts Increased use of food banks Increase in homelessness Ruined the economy for generations Etc etc. As has been said before, how can anyone expect this mess to be fixed in such a short time. | |||
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"This lot are worse. They are destructive and dangerous. A testament to the power of the media. Really? Increased taxes, failing economy, increased illegal immigration, giving away strategic bases etc… Destructive and dangerous. People have short memories. Under Tory rule we had, as a couple of examples. Austerity Brexit Culture wars, blaming foreigners, war on homeless people, trans people, people who eat tofu Rise in hate crime Billions given to their friends in covid contracts Increased use of food banks Increase in homelessness Ruined the economy for generations Etc etc. As has been said before, how can anyone expect this mess to be fixed in such a short time. " Pretty startling shift in the Leftist narrative. “Yes Labour is in power but don’t expect anything to improve and it’s all someone else’s fault”. Sounds like Labour are in government but not in power. Maybe if they can’t fix anything they should resign and make way for someone who can. | |||
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"This lot are worse. They are destructive and dangerous. A testament to the power of the media. Really? Increased taxes, failing economy, increased illegal immigration, giving away strategic bases etc… Destructive and dangerous. People have short memories. Under Tory rule we had, as a couple of examples. Austerity Brexit Culture wars, blaming foreigners, war on homeless people, trans people, people who eat tofu Rise in hate crime Billions given to their friends in covid contracts Increased use of food banks Increase in homelessness Ruined the economy for generations Etc etc. As has been said before, how can anyone expect this mess to be fixed in such a short time. Pretty startling shift in the Leftist narrative. “Yes Labour is in power but don’t expect anything to improve and it’s all someone else’s fault”. Sounds like Labour are in government but not in power. Maybe if they can’t fix anything they should resign and make way for someone who can." I can't imagine thinking that some information is "leftist narrative". What does that say about anything not "leftist"! | |||
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"This lot are worse. They are destructive and dangerous. A testament to the power of the media. Really? Increased taxes, failing economy, increased illegal immigration, giving away strategic bases etc… Destructive and dangerous." Exactly, too bad there are so many on here posting that have no clue and support the current clown show. Laws coming out in banking to go away from a cash society, enabling the government through peoples purses. Freedom of speech taken away, as well as religion unless you are Muslim. At this point in time England is totally becoming a country in decline and losing its identity. | |||
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"Corbyn’s new party will open the door even wider for Reform UK. I don’t necessarily think they need it, but a major split in the UK left will make it easier for Reform, with the Tories trailing in second place. So if you want your vote to count, Vote Reform!" By your logic, voting for Reform is not going to count, because they already have the votes. Ergo, the most consequential vote would be to vote for the party most likely to unseat Reform in any given constituency? | |||
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"This lot are worse. They are destructive and dangerous. A testament to the power of the media. Really? Increased taxes, failing economy, increased illegal immigration, giving away strategic bases etc… Destructive and dangerous. Exactly, too bad there are so many on here posting that have no clue and support the current clown show. Laws coming out in banking to go away from a cash society, enabling the government through peoples purses. Freedom of speech taken away, as well as religion unless you are Muslim. At this point in time England is totally becoming a country in decline and losing its identity." Not sure if you're taking this piss of the average GBNews watcher or not, but an element of the electorate actually believe this kind of rhubarb and will vote accordingly. | |||
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"Corbyn’s new party will open the door even wider for Reform UK. I don’t necessarily think they need it, but a major split in the UK left will make it easier for Reform, with the Tories trailing in second place. So if you want your vote to count, Vote Reform!" Lol, turkeys vote for Christmas | |||
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" Laws coming out in banking to go away from a cash society, enabling the government through peoples purses. Freedom of speech taken away, as well as religion unless you are Muslim. At this point in time England is totally becoming a country in decline and losing its identity." Lies, apart from the last paragraph | |||
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"Corbyn’s new party will open the door even wider for Reform UK. I don’t necessarily think they need it, but a major split in the UK left will make it easier for Reform, with the Tories trailing in second place. So if you want your vote to count, Vote Reform! Lol, turkeys vote for Christmas " People need to be taught in school how to think about news and information presented to them to be able to think analytically about if it could be true, if it could be only a half truth, if it's misleading, if it's presented by an organisation that has an angle or is funded by someone with something to gain. That's the only long term solution to people voting the country down the toilet over and over again. | |||
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"Corbyn’s new party will open the door even wider for Reform UK. I don’t necessarily think they need it, but a major split in the UK left will make it easier for Reform, with the Tories trailing in second place. So if you want your vote to count, Vote Reform! Lol, turkeys vote for Christmas People need to be taught in school how to think about news and information presented to them to be able to think analytically about if it could be true, if it could be only a half truth, if it's misleading, if it's presented by an organisation that has an angle or is funded by someone with something to gain. That's the only long term solution to people voting the country down the toilet over and over again." As long as they agree with Johnny, because everything else is misinformation, far right extremism etc | |||
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"Corbyn’s new party will open the door even wider for Reform UK. I don’t necessarily think they need it, but a major split in the UK left will make it easier for Reform, with the Tories trailing in second place. So if you want your vote to count, Vote Reform! Lol, turkeys vote for Christmas People need to be taught in school how to think about news and information presented to them to be able to think analytically about if it could be true, if it could be only a half truth, if it's misleading, if it's presented by an organisation that has an angle or is funded by someone with something to gain. That's the only long term solution to people voting the country down the toilet over and over again. As long as they agree with Johnny, because everything else is misinformation, far right extremism etc" Yawn. Trying to make it about me instead of making any pertinent points again. | |||
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"Corbyn’s new party will open the door even wider for Reform UK. I don’t necessarily think they need it, but a major split in the UK left will make it easier for Reform, with the Tories trailing in second place. So if you want your vote to count, Vote Reform! Lol, turkeys vote for Christmas People need to be taught in school how to think about news and information presented to them to be able to think analytically about if it could be true, if it could be only a half truth, if it's misleading, if it's presented by an organisation that has an angle or is funded by someone with something to gain. That's the only long term solution to people voting the country down the toilet over and over again. As long as they agree with Johnny, because everything else is misinformation, far right extremism etc Yawn. Trying to make it about me instead of making any pertinent points again. " Yawn, just pointing out the obvious | |||
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"Corbyn’s new party will open the door even wider for Reform UK. I don’t necessarily think they need it, but a major split in the UK left will make it easier for Reform, with the Tories trailing in second place. So if you want your vote to count, Vote Reform! Lol, turkeys vote for Christmas People need to be taught in school how to think about news and information presented to them to be able to think analytically about if it could be true, if it could be only a half truth, if it's misleading, if it's presented by an organisation that has an angle or is funded by someone with something to gain. That's the only long term solution to people voting the country down the toilet over and over again. As long as they agree with Johnny, because everything else is misinformation, far right extremism etc Yawn. Trying to make it about me instead of making any pertinent points again. Yawn, just pointing out the obvious " Last time you had a go at me for not addressing the OP, when you yourself hadn't addressed the OP. Hypocritical behaviour. Especially as I was actually participating in the discussion. How about knocking on the head this following me around and making childish digs and focus on the subject matter instead of going after people you don't like. | |||
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"Corbyn’s new party will open the door even wider for Reform UK. I don’t necessarily think they need it, but a major split in the UK left will make it easier for Reform, with the Tories trailing in second place. So if you want your vote to count, Vote Reform! Lol, turkeys vote for Christmas People need to be taught in school how to think about news and information presented to them to be able to think analytically about if it could be true, if it could be only a half truth, if it's misleading, if it's presented by an organisation that has an angle or is funded by someone with something to gain. That's the only long term solution to people voting the country down the toilet over and over again. As long as they agree with Johnny, because everything else is misinformation, far right extremism etc Yawn. Trying to make it about me instead of making any pertinent points again. Yawn, just pointing out the obvious Last time you had a go at me for not addressing the OP, when you yourself hadn't addressed the OP. Hypocritical behaviour. Especially as I was actually participating in the discussion. How about knocking on the head this following me around and making childish digs and focus on the subject matter instead of going after people you don't like." You have been going around making implications that people who don't agree with your views are just watching GB news and daily mail. You have no rights to criticise others about this. | |||
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"Corbyn’s new party will open the door even wider for Reform UK. I don’t necessarily think they need it, but a major split in the UK left will make it easier for Reform, with the Tories trailing in second place. So if you want your vote to count, Vote Reform! Lol, turkeys vote for Christmas People need to be taught in school how to think about news and information presented to them to be able to think analytically about if it could be true, if it could be only a half truth, if it's misleading, if it's presented by an organisation that has an angle or is funded by someone with something to gain. That's the only long term solution to people voting the country down the toilet over and over again. As long as they agree with Johnny, because everything else is misinformation, far right extremism etc Yawn. Trying to make it about me instead of making any pertinent points again. Yawn, just pointing out the obvious Last time you had a go at me for not addressing the OP, when you yourself hadn't addressed the OP. Hypocritical behaviour. Especially as I was actually participating in the discussion. How about knocking on the head this following me around and making childish digs and focus on the subject matter instead of going after people you don't like." You hadn't addressed the point, and still haven't. I merely highlighted that. Following you around? Nonsense, I merely commented on some issues that we share an interest in. Childish? That's your opinion and not one I share. Going after people I don't like? Not my style Johnny boy, that's more befitting of someone who left a while ago | |||
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"Corbyn’s new party will open the door even wider for Reform UK. I don’t necessarily think they need it, but a major split in the UK left will make it easier for Reform, with the Tories trailing in second place. So if you want your vote to count, Vote Reform! Lol, turkeys vote for Christmas People need to be taught in school how to think about news and information presented to them to be able to think analytically about if it could be true, if it could be only a half truth, if it's misleading, if it's presented by an organisation that has an angle or is funded by someone with something to gain. That's the only long term solution to people voting the country down the toilet over and over again. As long as they agree with Johnny, because everything else is misinformation, far right extremism etc Yawn. Trying to make it about me instead of making any pertinent points again. Yawn, just pointing out the obvious Last time you had a go at me for not addressing the OP, when you yourself hadn't addressed the OP. Hypocritical behaviour. Especially as I was actually participating in the discussion. How about knocking on the head this following me around and making childish digs and focus on the subject matter instead of going after people you don't like. You hadn't addressed the point, and still haven't. I merely highlighted that. " You also hadn't addressed the OP. At least I was replying to other people's points. You were just there having a go. Fuck knows why, just plain hypocrisy. " Following you around? Nonsense, I merely commented on some issues that we share an interest in. " You didn't though, just following me around having digs, without discussing the topics. " Childish? That's your opinion and not one I share. Going after people I don't like? Not my style Johnny boy, that's more befitting of someone who left a while ago " I don't know who you're referring to. And although I'm flattered by all the attention, I don't think it's going to work Amateur Boy. Let's try to stick to the topics from now on? | |||
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"This lot are worse. They are destructive and dangerous. A testament to the power of the media. Really? Increased taxes, failing economy, increased illegal immigration, giving away strategic bases etc… Destructive and dangerous. People have short memories. Under Tory rule we had, as a couple of examples. Austerity Brexit Culture wars, blaming foreigners, war on homeless people, trans people, people who eat tofu Rise in hate crime Billions given to their friends in covid contracts Increased use of food banks Increase in homelessness Ruined the economy for generations Etc etc. As has been said before, how can anyone expect this mess to be fixed in such a short time. Pretty startling shift in the Leftist narrative. “Yes Labour is in power but don’t expect anything to improve and it’s all someone else’s fault”. Sounds like Labour are in government but not in power. Maybe if they can’t fix anything they should resign and make way for someone who can." Lol, student politics. | |||
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"This lot are worse. They are destructive and dangerous. A testament to the power of the media. Really? Increased taxes, failing economy, increased illegal immigration, giving away strategic bases etc… Destructive and dangerous. People have short memories. Under Tory rule we had, as a couple of examples. Austerity Brexit Culture wars, blaming foreigners, war on homeless people, trans people, people who eat tofu Rise in hate crime Billions given to their friends in covid contracts Increased use of food banks Increase in homelessness Ruined the economy for generations Etc etc. As has been said before, how can anyone expect this mess to be fixed in such a short time. " TBF......the same but with a red badge. Unfortunately | |||
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"This lot are worse. They are destructive and dangerous. A testament to the power of the media. Really? Increased taxes, failing economy, increased illegal immigration, giving away strategic bases etc… Destructive and dangerous. People have short memories. Under Tory rule we had, as a couple of examples. Austerity Brexit Culture wars, blaming foreigners, war on homeless people, trans people, people who eat tofu Rise in hate crime Billions given to their friends in covid contracts Increased use of food banks Increase in homelessness Ruined the economy for generations Etc etc. As has been said before, how can anyone expect this mess to be fixed in such a short time. Pretty startling shift in the Leftist narrative. “Yes Labour is in power but don’t expect anything to improve and it’s all someone else’s fault”. Sounds like Labour are in government but not in power. Maybe if they can’t fix anything they should resign and make way for someone who can. Lol, student politics." Exactly. That’s entirely what Labour are. | |||
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"Corbyn’s new party will open the door even wider for Reform UK. I don’t necessarily think they need it, but a major split in the UK left will make it easier for Reform, with the Tories trailing in second place. So if you want your vote to count, Vote Reform! Lol, turkeys vote for Christmas People need to be taught in school how to think about news and information presented to them to be able to think analytically about if it could be true, if it could be only a half truth, if it's misleading, if it's presented by an organisation that has an angle or is funded by someone with something to gain. That's the only long term solution to people voting the country down the toilet over and over again." Children aren't the problem, they don't vote, they are savvy. It's grannies and us that need the educating | |||
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"Corbyn’s new party will open the door even wider for Reform UK. I don’t necessarily think they need it, but a major split in the UK left will make it easier for Reform, with the Tories trailing in second place. So if you want your vote to count, Vote Reform! Lol, turkeys vote for Christmas People need to be taught in school how to think about news and information presented to them to be able to think analytically about if it could be true, if it could be only a half truth, if it's misleading, if it's presented by an organisation that has an angle or is funded by someone with something to gain. That's the only long term solution to people voting the country down the toilet over and over again. Children aren't the problem, they don't vote, they are savvy. It's grannies and us that need the educating " Sad | |||
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"Indeed it is, sad. The goebelles himself couldn't ask for a medium And here we have the great racists of our time Trump and Nigel and the dancing picknees " Do you have evidence of your alleged racism? If so, I suggest you submit it to the powers that be | |||
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"Indeed it is, sad. The goebelles himself couldn't ask for a medium And here we have the great racists of our time Trump and Nigel and the dancing picknees Do you have evidence of your alleged racism? If so, I suggest you submit it to the powers that be" Yes daily mail called Nigel racist after an interview with LBC host saying that Romanians are different to Germans Trump took out a new york times add incorrectly blaming black lads of crime in central perk | |||
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"Indeed it is, sad. The goebelles himself couldn't ask for a medium And here we have the great racists of our time Trump and Nigel and the dancing picknees Do you have evidence of your alleged racism? If so, I suggest you submit it to the powers that be Yes daily mail called Nigel racist after an interview with LBC host saying that Romanians are different to Germans Trump took out a new york times add incorrectly blaming black lads of crime in central perk " You clearly have no understanding of how the law works in the UK, I can't speak for the US... unless oooh my mate says you robbd my neighbour is enough in your mind | |||
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"Indeed it is, sad. The goebelles himself couldn't ask for a medium And here we have the great racists of our time Trump and Nigel and the dancing picknees Do you have evidence of your alleged racism? If so, I suggest you submit it to the powers that be Yes daily mail called Nigel racist after an interview with LBC host saying that Romanians are different to Germans Trump took out a new york times add incorrectly blaming black lads of crime in central perk You clearly have no understanding of how the law works in the UK, I can't speak for the US... unless oooh my mate says you robbd my neighbour is enough in your mind " Since when was it illegal to be racist? May I suggest it's you who doesn't understand law | |||
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"Indeed it is, sad. The goebelles himself couldn't ask for a medium And here we have the great racists of our time Trump and Nigel and the dancing picknees Do you have evidence of your alleged racism? If so, I suggest you submit it to the powers that be Yes daily mail called Nigel racist after an interview with LBC host saying that Romanians are different to Germans Trump took out a new york times add incorrectly blaming black lads of crime in central perk You clearly have no understanding of how the law works in the UK, I can't speak for the US... unless oooh my mate says you robbd my neighbour is enough in your mind Since when was it illegal to be racist? May I suggest it's you who doesn't understand law" Are you serious? You think racism is legal? You're a bigger fool than I thought | |||
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"Indeed it is, sad. The goebelles himself couldn't ask for a medium And here we have the great racists of our time Trump and Nigel and the dancing picknees Do you have evidence of your alleged racism? If so, I suggest you submit it to the powers that be Yes daily mail called Nigel racist after an interview with LBC host saying that Romanians are different to Germans Trump took out a new york times add incorrectly blaming black lads of crime in central perk You clearly have no understanding of how the law works in the UK, I can't speak for the US... unless oooh my mate says you robbd my neighbour is enough in your mind Since when was it illegal to be racist? May I suggest it's you who doesn't understand law Are you serious? You think racism is legal? You're a bigger fool than I thought " Theirs no law to stop you from being racist. Theirs laws around hate speech and incitement to violence And Fagash Nigel knows them and walks right up to them but never crosses them Where Tommy Robinson and seemingly you is you don't know where the lines are but it is categorically why you love racist Nigel | |||
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"Indeed it is, sad. The goebelles himself couldn't ask for a medium And here we have the great racists of our time Trump and Nigel and the dancing picknees Do you have evidence of your alleged racism? If so, I suggest you submit it to the powers that be Yes daily mail called Nigel racist after an interview with LBC host saying that Romanians are different to Germans Trump took out a new york times add incorrectly blaming black lads of crime in central perk You clearly have no understanding of how the law works in the UK, I can't speak for the US... unless oooh my mate says you robbd my neighbour is enough in your mind Since when was it illegal to be racist? May I suggest it's you who doesn't understand law Are you serious? You think racism is legal? You're a bigger fool than I thought Theirs no law to stop you from being racist. Theirs laws around hate speech and incitement to violence And Fagash Nigel knows them and walks right up to them but never crosses them Where Tommy Robinson and seemingly you is you don't know where the lines are but it is categorically why you love racist Nigel " I support the Welsh independence call...and don't call me racist | |||
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"Indeed it is, sad. The goebelles himself couldn't ask for a medium And here we have the great racists of our time Trump and Nigel and the dancing picknees Do you have evidence of your alleged racism? If so, I suggest you submit it to the powers that be Yes daily mail called Nigel racist after an interview with LBC host saying that Romanians are different to Germans Trump took out a new york times add incorrectly blaming black lads of crime in central perk You clearly have no understanding of how the law works in the UK, I can't speak for the US... unless oooh my mate says you robbd my neighbour is enough in your mind Since when was it illegal to be racist? May I suggest it's you who doesn't understand law Are you serious? You think racism is legal? You're a bigger fool than I thought Theirs no law to stop you from being racist. Theirs laws around hate speech and incitement to violence And Fagash Nigel knows them and walks right up to them but never crosses them Where Tommy Robinson and seemingly you is you don't know where the lines are but it is categorically why you love racist Nigel I support the Welsh independence call...and don't call me racist" I'm sure you do, your an English nationalist | |||
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"Indeed it is, sad. The goebelles himself couldn't ask for a medium And here we have the great racists of our time Trump and Nigel and the dancing picknees Do you have evidence of your alleged racism? If so, I suggest you submit it to the powers that be Yes daily mail called Nigel racist after an interview with LBC host saying that Romanians are different to Germans Trump took out a new york times add incorrectly blaming black lads of crime in central perk You clearly have no understanding of how the law works in the UK, I can't speak for the US... unless oooh my mate says you robbd my neighbour is enough in your mind Since when was it illegal to be racist? May I suggest it's you who doesn't understand law Are you serious? You think racism is legal? You're a bigger fool than I thought Theirs no law to stop you from being racist. Theirs laws around hate speech and incitement to violence And Fagash Nigel knows them and walks right up to them but never crosses them Where Tommy Robinson and seemingly you is you don't know where the lines are but it is categorically why you love racist Nigel I support the Welsh independence call...and don't call me racist I'm sure you do, your an English nationalist " Twat, I'm Scottish | |||
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"Pretty sure when I went to fabersham it was in englandy" Moving to a different country is quite popular at the moment. Everyone is doing it 🤣 | |||
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"Pretty sure when I went to fabersham it was in englandy Moving to a different country is quite popular at the moment. Everyone is doing it 🤣" Especial of your a right wing mouthpiece, I here Isabella takes a shot is in Dubai, Lionel Shriver in Portugal, littlejohn Miami!! But all very well versed in the talking down of Britain | |||
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"Pretty sure when I went to fabersham it was in englandy Moving to a different country is quite popular at the moment. Everyone is doing it 🤣" 🤣🤣🤣 So funny that people need to leave their own countries. (Sarcasm, in case you missed it) | |||
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