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By *abio OP   Man
4 days ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

According to the communist rag.. the erm Rupert murdoch owed Wall Street Journal, Donald Trump name appears in the “Epstein files” multiple times…..

Hmmmm…. Never would have guessed!

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By *otMe66Man
4 days ago

Terra Firma

I would expect to see names like Bill Clinton, Gates, and many others in those documents. If someone’s surprised by that, I think they need to be paying more attention to detail.

Being named in a file doesn’t mean guilt of any kind it just means a name appears.

If there is evidence of wrong doing in the files, that is whole different ball game.

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By *enny PR9TV/TS
3 days ago

Southport

There's no client list. It's a fuckin client library.

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By *uffelskloofMan
3 days ago

Walsall

Everyone knows whose names appear in the files.

Fascinating that when it’s the Left’s darlings Clinton, Gates, Hawking etc we get years of media silence. Then suddenly the media decides to revisit some mention of Trump to try and whip up a story.

Looking forward to some detailed media coverage of the Clinton connection soon. I won’t hold my breath.

Trump and Epstein were both wealthy New York operators who would inevitably have crossed each other on the New York social circuit. Trump apparently eventually decided that Epstein was a “creep” and banned him from visiting Mar A Lago.

It’s unlikely that anyone else is going to be prosecuted over Epstein's antics, aside from the hapless Ghislaine Maxwell.

What is interesting is exactly what Epstein was up to and where he got his money from which nobody seems to know. I was listening to a Carlson interview with Darryl Cooper a week or so ago and Cooper had done some interesting research on it.

Where the cash came from and what Epstein was up to generally is an interesting question but not one the MSM is likely to visit: it’s too likely to throw up lots of other famous names, and it would be hard to do a proper job and only manage to mention Trump.

Much easier for trash outlets like the BBC to show a brief clip of Epstein and Trump laughing at a party and leave the suggestion hanging that anyone speaking to Epstein at a party must be a paedophile. It’s how low the “national broadcaster” has sunk unfortunately.

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By *idnight RamblerMan
3 days ago

Pershore

Wait til the delightful Ghislaine starts singing like a canary

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By *cocksrbetterCouple (MM)
3 days ago

Teesside


"Everyone knows whose names appear in the files.

Fascinating that when it’s the Left’s darlings Clinton, Gates, Hawking etc we get years of media silence. Then suddenly the media decides to revisit some mention of Trump to try and whip up a story.

Looking forward to some detailed media coverage of the Clinton connection soon. I won’t hold my breath.

Trump and Epstein were both wealthy New York operators who would inevitably have crossed each other on the New York social circuit. Trump apparently eventually decided that Epstein was a “creep” and banned him from visiting Mar A Lago.

It’s unlikely that anyone else is going to be prosecuted over Epstein's antics, aside from the hapless Ghislaine Maxwell.

What is interesting is exactly what Epstein was up to and where he got his money from which nobody seems to know. I was listening to a Carlson interview with Darryl Cooper a week or so ago and Cooper had done some interesting research on it.

Where the cash came from and what Epstein was up to generally is an interesting question but not one the MSM is likely to visit: it’s too likely to throw up lots of other famous names, and it would be hard to do a proper job and only manage to mention Trump.

Much easier for trash outlets like the BBC to show a brief clip of Epstein and Trump laughing at a party and leave the suggestion hanging that anyone speaking to Epstein at a party must be a paedophile. It’s how low the “national broadcaster” has sunk unfortunately.

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By *otlovefun42Couple
3 days ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"Wait til the delightful Ghislaine starts singing like a canary "

Do you really think that will be allowed to happen?

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By *idnight RamblerMan
3 days ago

Pershore


"Wait til the delightful Ghislaine starts singing like a canary

Do you really think that will be allowed to happen?"

It did occur to me that the president might pardon her. But he wouldn't stoop that low to buy her silence ......would he?

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By *otlovefun42Couple
3 days ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"Wait til the delightful Ghislaine starts singing like a canary

Do you really think that will be allowed to happen?

It did occur to me that the president might pardon her. But he wouldn't stoop that low to buy her silence ......would he?"

Or maybe she will "try to escape" or "slip on the soap" in the shower block. Even have a "dispute" with the resident psychopath.

Maybe even use the same get out of jail card as her ex B/F.

I think there are a lot of very powerful sweaty palms right now.

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By *otMe66Man
3 days ago

Terra Firma


"Everyone knows whose names appear in the files.

Fascinating that when it’s the Left’s darlings Clinton, Gates, Hawking etc we get years of media silence. Then suddenly the media decides to revisit some mention of Trump to try and whip up a story.

Looking forward to some detailed media coverage of the Clinton connection soon. I won’t hold my breath.

Trump and Epstein were both wealthy New York operators who would inevitably have crossed each other on the New York social circuit. Trump apparently eventually decided that Epstein was a “creep” and banned him from visiting Mar A Lago.

It’s unlikely that anyone else is going to be prosecuted over Epstein's antics, aside from the hapless Ghislaine Maxwell.

What is interesting is exactly what Epstein was up to and where he got his money from which nobody seems to know. I was listening to a Carlson interview with Darryl Cooper a week or so ago and Cooper had done some interesting research on it.

Where the cash came from and what Epstein was up to generally is an interesting question but not one the MSM is likely to visit: it’s too likely to throw up lots of other famous names, and it would be hard to do a proper job and only manage to mention Trump.

Much easier for trash outlets like the BBC to show a brief clip of Epstein and Trump laughing at a party and leave the suggestion hanging that anyone speaking to Epstein at a party must be a paedophile. It’s how low the “national broadcaster” has sunk unfortunately.

"

My understanding after watching the Netflix documentary, was he basically helped himself to Leslie Wexner's fortune when he was given power of attorney.

Epstein's mansion in NY was originally Wexner's.

Who knows for sure, he was a life long charlatan...

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By *ostindreamsMan
3 days ago

Bangor, London

I think the Epstein files must be a non-partisan issue. Both the democrats and the republicans have done everything to hide it. Whether Trump himself is implicated or not, there is a good chance that a major Republican donor is. Democrats won't be any different. For this reason, I am pretty sure it will never see the light of day

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By *ikerabbits!Couple
3 days ago

Surrey

For the first time ever Trump is experiencing blowback from MAGA. His refusal to publish the files has fractured his base. Ironically it’s the Democrats who are now weaponising the Trump fuelled Epstein conspiracy theory. To be clear Epstein was a low life scum bag but there is an awful lot of wild conspiracy theories surrounding him and the so called ‘liberal elite’. Trump is discovering the hard way that if you convince some people to believe in batshit conspiracy theories don’t be surprised if they take you at your word: and when you row back on those theories people will get very angry. I think Trump is in serious trouble with this.

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By *uddy laneMan
3 days ago

dudley

This was over when Mr epstein departed this world.

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By *ostindreamsMan
3 days ago

Bangor, London


"For the first time ever Trump is experiencing blowback from MAGA. His refusal to publish the files has fractured his base. Ironically it’s the Democrats who are now weaponising the Trump fuelled Epstein conspiracy theory. To be clear Epstein was a low life scum bag but there is an awful lot of wild conspiracy theories surrounding him and the so called ‘liberal elite’. Trump is discovering the hard way that if you convince some people to believe in batshit conspiracy theories don’t be surprised if they take you at your word: and when you row back on those theories people will get very angry. I think Trump is in serious trouble with this. "

I think there is enough in it for people to believe that it's not just a conspiracy theory. The circumstances of Epstein's death are so suspicious that it's hard not to believe there are some big names involved.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
3 days ago

golden fields


"For the first time ever Trump is experiencing blowback from MAGA. His refusal to publish the files has fractured his base. Ironically it’s the Democrats who are now weaponising the Trump fuelled Epstein conspiracy theory. To be clear Epstein was a low life scum bag but there is an awful lot of wild conspiracy theories surrounding him and the so called ‘liberal elite’. Trump is discovering the hard way that if you convince some people to believe in batshit conspiracy theories don’t be surprised if they take you at your word: and when you row back on those theories people will get very angry. I think Trump is in serious trouble with this. "

It's interesting where the MAGA faithful's line in the sand is.

Sexual abuse,

34 counts of fraud,

"grab 'em by the pussy",

mocking disabled reporter,

keeping classified documents at his gaff,

philandering while promoting family values

Etc etc

All cool with them.

I agree with others that this list either won't see the light of day, or it'll be all redacted. It's unlikely anyone will face any consequences.

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By *appyPandaMan
3 days ago

Kilkenny, but Dublin is more fun


"I think the Epstein files must be a non-partisan issue. Both the democrats and the republicans have done everything to hide it. Whether Trump himself is implicated or not, there is a good chance that a major Republican donor is. Democrats won't be any different. For this reason, I am pretty sure it will never see the light of day "

Oh definitely. The ruling class is filled with self serving greedy creeps who's power and self proclaimed importance has them believe they're able to do anything. There's a lot of worrying reports from what happens to the workers or employed help on private yacht parties in international waters too.

In all fairness, this is not a new thing in the slightest. It's been with us since complex civilisation first arose and the centralising of resources allowed a select few to rule over everyone else (whether by being "selected by god", born to the predecessors or simply inheriting increasingly large percentages of the city/nation's wealth).

I deeply believe this current focus on left Vs right is to a large extent an unnecessary distraction, and could very well have been urged a long or given more airtime to ensure that the populace that is getting screwed over and losing more and more say in how their societies are structured or what it focuses on are kept distracted and divided squabbling amongst themselves so they don't realise that they are more alike than they realise and it's actually those calling the shots and in positions of great power that we need to be focusing on.

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By *otMe66Man
3 days ago

Terra Firma


"For the first time ever Trump is experiencing blowback from MAGA. His refusal to publish the files has fractured his base. Ironically it’s the Democrats who are now weaponising the Trump fuelled Epstein conspiracy theory. To be clear Epstein was a low life scum bag but there is an awful lot of wild conspiracy theories surrounding him and the so called ‘liberal elite’. Trump is discovering the hard way that if you convince some people to believe in batshit conspiracy theories don’t be surprised if they take you at your word: and when you row back on those theories people will get very angry. I think Trump is in serious trouble with this.

I think there is enough in it for people to believe that it's not just a conspiracy theory. The circumstances of Epstein's death are so suspicious that it's hard not to believe there are some big names involved."

The arrest and *death of Jean Luc Brunel, adds a lot fuel to the fire of conspiracy theories.

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By *ikerabbits!Couple
3 days ago

Surrey

For the first time ever Trump is experiencing blowback from MAGA. His refusal to publish the files has fractured his base. Ironically it’s the Democrats who are now weaponising the Trump fuelled Epstein conspiracy theory. To be clear Epstein was a low life scum bag but there is an awful lot of wild conspiracy theories surrounding him and the so called ‘liberal elite’. Trump is discovering the hard way that if you convince some people to believe in batshit conspiracy theories don’t be surprised if they take you at your word: and when you row back on those theories people will get very angry. I think Trump is in serious trouble with this.

I think there is enough in it for people to believe that it's not just a conspiracy theory. The circumstances of Epstein's death are so suspicious that it's hard not to believe there are some big names involved.

I don’t know whether Epstein committed suicide or was murdered. So yes there are questions surrounding that. My point about conspiracy theories surrounding all of this is more of a wider one relating to Trump’s promoting conspiracies about the pizza parlour in Washington DC, child trafficking, abuse, murder. A supposed cabal of Democratic Party, liberal business, celebrity, media people all being involved including the Clintons. It’s of course important to remember that Trump and Epstein were at one time best buddies. They ended up falling out over a property deal in Florida…not over the fact that Epstein was a sex trafficker. Trump getting his priorities right again 🤔

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple
3 days ago

Border of London


" ...wild conspiracy theories surrounding him and the so called ‘liberal elite’... "

You mean they aren't actually lizard people who drink the blood of children to become immortal?

Do you own research!

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By *uddy laneMan
3 days ago

dudley


"For the first time ever Trump is experiencing blowback from MAGA. His refusal to publish the files has fractured his base. Ironically it’s the Democrats who are now weaponising the Trump fuelled Epstein conspiracy theory. To be clear Epstein was a low life scum bag but there is an awful lot of wild conspiracy theories surrounding him and the so called ‘liberal elite’. Trump is discovering the hard way that if you convince some people to believe in batshit conspiracy theories don’t be surprised if they take you at your word: and when you row back on those theories people will get very angry. I think Trump is in serious trouble with this.

I think there is enough in it for people to believe that it's not just a conspiracy theory. The circumstances of Epstein's death are so suspicious that it's hard not to believe there are some big names involved."

Mr Epstein knew the truth, unfortunately he can not be questioned on who is innocent or guilty so the list will be lost, it is obvious that there are names on it they do not want in the public domain, a photo of a golf course landing on his desk was enough for Mr trump he understands that type of negotiation.

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By *ikerabbits!Couple
3 days ago

Surrey

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By *ikerabbits!Couple
3 days ago

Surrey


" ...wild conspiracy theories surrounding him and the so called ‘liberal elite’...

You mean they aren't actually lizard people who drink the blood of children to become immortal?

Do you own research!

"

😂😂….who needs fact, evidence backed reporting/ opinions when we have Truth Social and other ‘reliable’ sources xx

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By *ennineTopMan
3 days ago

York

I doubt there is any real dirt on Trump himself otherwise he would never have weaponized the issue in the first place.

But there might be something in the files that could damage him indirectly.

He's messed up either way. He could have just kept kicking the can down the road but instead has turned on his own fans for making a fuss. Not a good move.

I think his team realised this was a big problem so they came up with the idea of getting the grand jury files unsealed, knowing in advance that there's nothing damaging in those particular files and it was very likely that the judge would turn down the request (as it's not something normally done).

So if the grand jury files were released, there's nothing in them - problem solved. If they weren't released, they could blame the judge - problem solved.

The judge turned it down so the focus will now shift to blaming the judge and the calculation will be that enough MAGA folk are too dumb to realise this was the plan. But my feeling is that most MAGA folk will still want all the other information released anyway.

One possibility is that Epstein was murdered in some Hollywood style conspiracy. I think this is extremely unlikely to be true but while doubt about it remains many people will want more information released. And if it isn't the conspiracy theories will grow wilder and wilder.

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By *uffelskloofMan
3 days ago

Walsall


"Everyone knows whose names appear in the files.

Fascinating that when it’s the Left’s darlings Clinton, Gates, Hawking etc we get years of media silence. Then suddenly the media decides to revisit some mention of Trump to try and whip up a story.

Looking forward to some detailed media coverage of the Clinton connection soon. I won’t hold my breath.

Trump and Epstein were both wealthy New York operators who would inevitably have crossed each other on the New York social circuit. Trump apparently eventually decided that Epstein was a “creep” and banned him from visiting Mar A Lago.

It’s unlikely that anyone else is going to be prosecuted over Epstein's antics, aside from the hapless Ghislaine Maxwell.

What is interesting is exactly what Epstein was up to and where he got his money from which nobody seems to know. I was listening to a Carlson interview with Darryl Cooper a week or so ago and Cooper had done some interesting research on it.

Where the cash came from and what Epstein was up to generally is an interesting question but not one the MSM is likely to visit: it’s too likely to throw up lots of other famous names, and it would be hard to do a proper job and only manage to mention Trump.

Much easier for trash outlets like the BBC to show a brief clip of Epstein and Trump laughing at a party and leave the suggestion hanging that anyone speaking to Epstein at a party must be a paedophile. It’s how low the “national broadcaster” has sunk unfortunately.

My understanding after watching the Netflix documentary, was he basically helped himself to Leslie Wexner's fortune when he was given power of attorney.

Epstein's mansion in NY was originally Wexner's.

Who knows for sure, he was a life long charlatan... "

Yes that is what Wexner claimed. Apparently Wexner owned the biggest house in Ohio. And Epstein owned the second biggest house in Ohio, gifted to him by Wexner.

I don’t believe Wexner has ever spoken publicly about their relationship. And staff at Wexner’s business didn’t understand the relationship. Epstein was apparently “untouchable” and anyone who criticised him faced the chop.

There have also been claims of links to both US and Israeli intelligence.

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By *arry and MegsCouple
3 days ago

Ipswich


"Wait til the delightful Ghislaine starts singing like a canary "

Didn't the orange clown send someone to "interview" her ?

Probably took some arsenic for her coffee. Dead within a month of sudden heart attack or something ?

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By *idnight RamblerMan
3 days ago

Pershore


"Wait til the delightful Ghislaine starts singing like a canary

Didn't the orange clown send someone to "interview" her ?

Probably took some arsenic for her coffee. Dead within a month of sudden heart attack or something ?"

I'd guess he sent an envoy to sound her out about a deal that exonerates him and pardons her. An honourable win-win, no?

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By *ennineTopMan
3 days ago

York


"I'd guess he sent an envoy to sound her out about a deal that exonerates him and pardons her. An honourable win-win, no?"

Who will believe anything she says?

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
3 days ago

Central


" ...wild conspiracy theories surrounding him and the so called ‘liberal elite’...

You mean they aren't actually lizard people who drink the blood of children to become immortal?

Do you own research!

😂😂….who needs fact, evidence backed reporting/ opinions when we have Truth Social and other ‘reliable’ sources xx"

Exactly - it's in the name... Truth social.

All the truth that the world could need, ever.

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple
3 days ago

Border of London


" ...wild conspiracy theories surrounding him and the so called ‘liberal elite’...

You mean they aren't actually lizard people who drink the blood of children to become immortal?

Do you own research!

😂😂….who needs fact, evidence backed reporting/ opinions when we have Truth Social and other ‘reliable’ sources xx

Exactly - it's in the name... Truth social.

All the truth that the world could need, ever. "

There are facts.

And then, there are alternative facts.

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By *idnight RamblerMan
3 days ago

Pershore


"I'd guess he sent an envoy to sound her out about a deal that exonerates him and pardons her. An honourable win-win, no?

Who will believe anything she says?"

Well the Reps and the Dems have a dog in the race here, so I reckon quite a few will choose to believe her.

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