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"Race riots 2025 Brought on be Fagash and island of strangers speech What do people expect when you have far right agitators stoking hate against the most vulnerable people seeking safety and then the actual prime minister delivering a speech that validates their far right thoughts. It is not acceptable, it is racist and everyone supporting such nonsense should be thoroughly ashamed!! I bet you don't even realise how close you are to actual Nazis hating Jews but this time it's Brown people are acceptable targets " It's terrible but think Jews are seen as acceptable targets too right now. It all needs to stop, Mrs x | |||
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"Race riots 2025 Brought on be Fagash and island of strangers speech What do people expect when you have far right agitators stoking hate against the most vulnerable people seeking safety and then the actual prime minister delivering a speech that validates their far right thoughts. It is not acceptable, it is racist and everyone supporting such nonsense should be thoroughly ashamed!! I bet you don't even realise how close you are to actual Nazis hating Jews but this time it's Brown people are acceptable targets It's terrible but think Jews are seen as acceptable targets too right now. It all needs to stop, Mrs x" Jews aren't being burned in hotels right now. | |||
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"Race riots 2025 Brought on be Fagash and island of strangers speech What do people expect when you have far right agitators stoking hate against the most vulnerable people seeking safety and then the actual prime minister delivering a speech that validates their far right thoughts. It is not acceptable, it is racist and everyone supporting such nonsense should be thoroughly ashamed!! I bet you don't even realise how close you are to actual Nazis hating Jews but this time it's Brown people are acceptable targets " Migrants have been staying at the Epping hotel since 2020. Then an Ethiopian migrant who had come across on a dinghy was charged with three counts of sexual assault 8 days after arriving. The “vulnerable people seeking safety” would appear to be Epping residents justifiably concerned about the safety of their community. | |||
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"Race riots 2025 Brought on be Fagash and island of strangers speech What do people expect when you have far right agitators stoking hate against the most vulnerable people seeking safety and then the actual prime minister delivering a speech that validates their far right thoughts. It is not acceptable, it is racist and everyone supporting such nonsense should be thoroughly ashamed!! I bet you don't even realise how close you are to actual Nazis hating Jews but this time it's Brown people are acceptable targets Migrants have been staying at the Epping hotel since 2020. Then an Ethiopian migrant who had come across on a dinghy was charged with three counts of sexual assault 8 days after arriving. The “vulnerable people seeking safety” would appear to be Epping residents justifiably concerned about the safety of their community." You don't see these violent racists setting fire to hotels with British people in when a British person commits a crime. Seems like they only care when brown people are involved. | |||
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"Race riots 2025 Brought on be Fagash and island of strangers speech What do people expect when you have far right agitators stoking hate against the most vulnerable people seeking safety and then the actual prime minister delivering a speech that validates their far right thoughts. It is not acceptable, it is racist and everyone supporting such nonsense should be thoroughly ashamed!! I bet you don't even realise how close you are to actual Nazis hating Jews but this time it's Brown people are acceptable targets Migrants have been staying at the Epping hotel since 2020. Then an Ethiopian migrant who had come across on a dinghy was charged with three counts of sexual assault 8 days after arriving. The “vulnerable people seeking safety” would appear to be Epping residents justifiably concerned about the safety of their community." Oh, I see only that crim committed? Their not outside any other home protesting criminality! We have the police to deal with crime not far right thugs choosing who they protest about | |||
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"Race riots 2025 Brought on be Fagash and island of strangers speech What do people expect when you have far right agitators stoking hate against the most vulnerable people seeking safety and then the actual prime minister delivering a speech that validates their far right thoughts. It is not acceptable, it is racist and everyone supporting such nonsense should be thoroughly ashamed!! I bet you don't even realise how close you are to actual Nazis hating Jews but this time it's Brown people are acceptable targets Migrants have been staying at the Epping hotel since 2020. Then an Ethiopian migrant who had come across on a dinghy was charged with three counts of sexual assault 8 days after arriving. The “vulnerable people seeking safety” would appear to be Epping residents justifiably concerned about the safety of their community. You don't see these violent racists setting fire to hotels with British people in when a British person commits a crime. Seems like they only care when brown people are involved. " Do they? How do you know what colour the culprit is? Do you have any data on the skin colour of hotel residents? Sounds like you are making racist assumptions about refugees. | |||
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"Race riots 2025 Brought on be Fagash and island of strangers speech What do people expect when you have far right agitators stoking hate against the most vulnerable people seeking safety and then the actual prime minister delivering a speech that validates their far right thoughts. It is not acceptable, it is racist and everyone supporting such nonsense should be thoroughly ashamed!! I bet you don't even realise how close you are to actual Nazis hating Jews but this time it's Brown people are acceptable targets Migrants have been staying at the Epping hotel since 2020. Then an Ethiopian migrant who had come across on a dinghy was charged with three counts of sexual assault 8 days after arriving. The “vulnerable people seeking safety” would appear to be Epping residents justifiably concerned about the safety of their community. You don't see these violent racists setting fire to hotels with British people in when a British person commits a crime. Seems like they only care when brown people are involved. Do they? How do you know what colour the culprit is? Do you have any data on the skin colour of hotel residents? Sounds like you are making racist assumptions about refugees." Deflection from your support for wrong doing will do it  | |||
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"Race riots 2025 Brought on be Fagash and island of strangers speech What do people expect when you have far right agitators stoking hate against the most vulnerable people seeking safety and then the actual prime minister delivering a speech that validates their far right thoughts. It is not acceptable, it is racist and everyone supporting such nonsense should be thoroughly ashamed!! I bet you don't even realise how close you are to actual Nazis hating Jews but this time it's Brown people are acceptable targets Migrants have been staying at the Epping hotel since 2020. Then an Ethiopian migrant who had come across on a dinghy was charged with three counts of sexual assault 8 days after arriving. The “vulnerable people seeking safety” would appear to be Epping residents justifiably concerned about the safety of their community. You don't see these violent racists setting fire to hotels with British people in when a British person commits a crime. Seems like they only care when brown people are involved. Do they? How do you know what colour the culprit is? Do you have any data on the skin colour of hotel residents? Sounds like you are making racist assumptions about refugees. Deflection from your support for wrong doing will do it "I have simply stated the facts. In return you spout your usual incoherent poorly spelt and grammatically incorrect gibberish. | |||
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"Race riots 2025 Brought on be Fagash and island of strangers speech What do people expect when you have far right agitators stoking hate against the most vulnerable people seeking safety and then the actual prime minister delivering a speech that validates their far right thoughts. It is not acceptable, it is racist and everyone supporting such nonsense should be thoroughly ashamed!! I bet you don't even realise how close you are to actual Nazis hating Jews but this time it's Brown people are acceptable targets Migrants have been staying at the Epping hotel since 2020. Then an Ethiopian migrant who had come across on a dinghy was charged with three counts of sexual assault 8 days after arriving. The “vulnerable people seeking safety” would appear to be Epping residents justifiably concerned about the safety of their community. You don't see these violent racists setting fire to hotels with British people in when a British person commits a crime. Seems like they only care when brown people are involved. Do they? How do you know what colour the culprit is? Do you have any data on the skin colour of hotel residents? Sounds like you are making racist assumptions about refugees. Deflection from your support for wrong doing will do it
I have simply stated the facts.
In return you spout your usual incoherent poorly spelt and grammatically incorrect gibberish. "So, no one is protesting outside private homes of accused criminals. Only hotels and only if their Ethiopian. Which does suggest they'd be Black! So almost as if it's not the crime that's the problem | |||
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"Race riots 2025 Brought on be Fagash and island of strangers speech What do people expect when you have far right agitators stoking hate against the most vulnerable people seeking safety and then the actual prime minister delivering a speech that validates their far right thoughts. It is not acceptable, it is racist and everyone supporting such nonsense should be thoroughly ashamed!! I bet you don't even realise how close you are to actual Nazis hating Jews but this time it's Brown people are acceptable targets Migrants have been staying at the Epping hotel since 2020. Then an Ethiopian migrant who had come across on a dinghy was charged with three counts of sexual assault 8 days after arriving. The “vulnerable people seeking safety” would appear to be Epping residents justifiably concerned about the safety of their community. You don't see these violent racists setting fire to hotels with British people in when a British person commits a crime. Seems like they only care when brown people are involved. Do they? How do you know what colour the culprit is? Do you have any data on the skin colour of hotel residents? Sounds like you are making racist assumptions about refugees. Deflection from your support for wrong doing will do it
I have simply stated the facts.
In return you spout your usual incoherent poorly spelt and grammatically incorrect gibberish.
So, no one is protesting outside private homes of accused criminals. Only hotels and only if their Ethiopian. Which does suggest they'd be Black!
So almost as if it's not the crime that's the problem "Their Ethiopian what? Does it suggest they are black? I don’t know what the demographics are in Ethiopia. All we know is that an illegal immigrant in the country for 8 days has been charged with sexual assault. My main concern is for the unfortunate girl who has suffered this attack. If there were better border controls she wouldn’t have had to go through this ordeal. As usual she doesn’t get any mention in Leftist World. Just another white chav moaning about nothing. | |||
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"Of course due process must take place but even the locals in Epping are saying there's outsiders who are travelling to agitate.. Strangely the same types when the white gang in Scotland were convicted of the most vile prolonged abuse of three girls under 13 and the Bolton gang again all white were convicted of the same crimes against girls between 13-15 there was no one attacking the police etc .. Almost like it's not the victims or the alleged victims that actually matter and it's just pure fascist racism for some intent on mayhem..?" It’s not the crime, society has garnered prejudice to immigrants, because they are here put up in hotels paid by the taxpayer is not helping. | |||
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"Race riots 2025 Brought on be Fagash and island of strangers speech What do people expect when you have far right agitators stoking hate against the most vulnerable people seeking safety and then the actual prime minister delivering a speech that validates their far right thoughts. It is not acceptable, it is racist and everyone supporting such nonsense should be thoroughly ashamed!! I bet you don't even realise how close you are to actual Nazis hating Jews but this time it's Brown people are acceptable targets Migrants have been staying at the Epping hotel since 2020. Then an Ethiopian migrant who had come across on a dinghy was charged with three counts of sexual assault 8 days after arriving. The “vulnerable people seeking safety” would appear to be Epping residents justifiably concerned about the safety of their community. You don't see these violent racists setting fire to hotels with British people in when a British person commits a crime. Seems like they only care when brown people are involved. Do they? How do you know what colour the culprit is? Do you have any data on the skin colour of hotel residents? Sounds like you are making racist assumptions about refugees. Deflection from your support for wrong doing will do it
I have simply stated the facts.
In return you spout your usual incoherent poorly spelt and grammatically incorrect gibberish.
So, no one is protesting outside private homes of accused criminals. Only hotels and only if their Ethiopian. Which does suggest they'd be Black!
So almost as if it's not the crime that's the problem
Their Ethiopian what?
Does it suggest they are black?
I don’t know what the demographics are in Ethiopia. All we know is that an illegal immigrant in the country for 8 days has been charged with sexual assault.
My main concern is for the unfortunate girl who has suffered this attack. If there were better border controls she wouldn’t have had to go through this ordeal.
As usual she doesn’t get any mention in Leftist World. Just another white chav moaning about nothing. "Clearly you don't know the demographic of Ethiopia. You only care about girls who are "attacked" by migrants. You're not protesting outside the houses of other men who have attacked girls. It isn't the victim you care about but a baton to hit immigration | |||
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"If they got back in their dinghy’s and sailed home there’d be no riots. " Helpful. Seeing as claiming asylum is legal why should they? | |||
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"Of course due process must take place but even the locals in Epping are saying there's outsiders who are travelling to agitate.. Strangely the same types when the white gang in Scotland were convicted of the most vile prolonged abuse of three girls under 13 and the Bolton gang again all white were convicted of the same crimes against girls between 13-15 there was no one attacking the police etc .. Almost like it's not the victims or the alleged victims that actually matter and it's just pure fascist racism for some intent on mayhem..? It’s not the crime, society has garnered prejudice to immigrants, because they are here put up in hotels paid by the taxpayer is not helping. " It's called the asylum process. It's legal. If theirs a criminal in their midst that's a matter for the police and law. Not far right agitators | |||
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"Race riots 2025 Brought on be Fagash and island of strangers speech What do people expect when you have far right agitators stoking hate against the most vulnerable people seeking safety and then the actual prime minister delivering a speech that validates their far right thoughts. It is not acceptable, it is racist and everyone supporting such nonsense should be thoroughly ashamed!! I bet you don't even realise how close you are to actual Nazis hating Jews but this time it's Brown people are acceptable targets Migrants have been staying at the Epping hotel since 2020. Then an Ethiopian migrant who had come across on a dinghy was charged with three counts of sexual assault 8 days after arriving. The “vulnerable people seeking safety” would appear to be Epping residents justifiably concerned about the safety of their community. You don't see these violent racists setting fire to hotels with British people in when a British person commits a crime. Seems like they only care when brown people are involved. Do they? How do you know what colour the culprit is? Do you have any data on the skin colour of hotel residents? Sounds like you are making racist assumptions about refugees. Deflection from your support for wrong doing will do it
I have simply stated the facts.
In return you spout your usual incoherent poorly spelt and grammatically incorrect gibberish.
So, no one is protesting outside private homes of accused criminals. Only hotels and only if their Ethiopian. Which does suggest they'd be Black!
So almost as if it's not the crime that's the problem
Their Ethiopian what?
Does it suggest they are black?
I don’t know what the demographics are in Ethiopia. All we know is that an illegal immigrant in the country for 8 days has been charged with sexual assault.
My main concern is for the unfortunate girl who has suffered this attack. If there were better border controls she wouldn’t have had to go through this ordeal.
As usual she doesn’t get any mention in Leftist World. Just another white chav moaning about nothing.
Clearly you don't know the demographic of Ethiopia.
You only care about girls who are "attacked" by migrants.
You're not protesting outside the houses of other men who have attacked girls.
It isn't the victim you care about but a baton to hit immigration "Your attitude is typical of what we have seen across the country from Leftist councils. Young girls attacked by grooming gangs and their families should shut up about it. Nothing to see here. If it’s a choice between the safety of young girls and multiculturalist ideology then the girls are the last consideration. They just need to shut their mouths and accept their lot. They are trash anyway so who cares? But it’s good to see that Leftists have learnt nothing. Reform should be paying you to do their recruitment. | |||
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"Of course due process must take place but even the locals in Epping are saying there's outsiders who are travelling to agitate.. Strangely the same types when the white gang in Scotland were convicted of the most vile prolonged abuse of three girls under 13 and the Bolton gang again all white were convicted of the same crimes against girls between 13-15 there was no one attacking the police etc .. Almost like it's not the victims or the alleged victims that actually matter and it's just pure fascist racism for some intent on mayhem..? It’s not the crime, society has garnered prejudice to immigrants, because they are here put up in hotels paid by the taxpayer is not helping. " That's literally excusing scum who are intent on attacking police and destroying property and as we've seen some think it's also acceptable to commit arson.. Not all in society by any stretch act in that way .. | |||
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"Race riots 2025 Brought on be Fagash and island of strangers speech What do people expect when you have far right agitators stoking hate against the most vulnerable people seeking safety and then the actual prime minister delivering a speech that validates their far right thoughts. It is not acceptable, it is racist and everyone supporting such nonsense should be thoroughly ashamed!! I bet you don't even realise how close you are to actual Nazis hating Jews but this time it's Brown people are acceptable targets Migrants have been staying at the Epping hotel since 2020. Then an Ethiopian migrant who had come across on a dinghy was charged with three counts of sexual assault 8 days after arriving. The “vulnerable people seeking safety” would appear to be Epping residents justifiably concerned about the safety of their community. You don't see these violent racists setting fire to hotels with British people in when a British person commits a crime. Seems like they only care when brown people are involved. Do they? How do you know what colour the culprit is? Do you have any data on the skin colour of hotel residents? Sounds like you are making racist assumptions about refugees. Deflection from your support for wrong doing will do it
I have simply stated the facts.
In return you spout your usual incoherent poorly spelt and grammatically incorrect gibberish.
So, no one is protesting outside private homes of accused criminals. Only hotels and only if their Ethiopian. Which does suggest they'd be Black!
So almost as if it's not the crime that's the problem
Their Ethiopian what?
Does it suggest they are black?
I don’t know what the demographics are in Ethiopia. All we know is that an illegal immigrant in the country for 8 days has been charged with sexual assault.
My main concern is for the unfortunate girl who has suffered this attack. If there were better border controls she wouldn’t have had to go through this ordeal.
As usual she doesn’t get any mention in Leftist World. Just another white chav moaning about nothing.
Clearly you don't know the demographic of Ethiopia.
You only care about girls who are "attacked" by migrants.
You're not protesting outside the houses of other men who have attacked girls.
It isn't the victim you care about but a baton to hit immigration
Your attitude is typical of what we have seen across the country from Leftist councils.
Young girls attacked by grooming gangs and their families should shut up about it. Nothing to see here. If it’s a choice between the safety of young girls and multiculturalist ideology then the girls are the last consideration. They just need to shut their mouths and accept their lot. They are trash anyway so who cares?
But it’s good to see that Leftists have learnt nothing.
Reform should be paying you to do their recruitment. "Seeing as you've made that up
I've said it's a matter for the police!
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"Race riots 2025 Brought on be Fagash and island of strangers speech What do people expect when you have far right agitators stoking hate against the most vulnerable people seeking safety and then the actual prime minister delivering a speech that validates their far right thoughts. It is not acceptable, it is racist and everyone supporting such nonsense should be thoroughly ashamed!! I bet you don't even realise how close you are to actual Nazis hating Jews but this time it's Brown people are acceptable targets Migrants have been staying at the Epping hotel since 2020. Then an Ethiopian migrant who had come across on a dinghy was charged with three counts of sexual assault 8 days after arriving. The “vulnerable people seeking safety” would appear to be Epping residents justifiably concerned about the safety of their community. You don't see these violent racists setting fire to hotels with British people in when a British person commits a crime. Seems like they only care when brown people are involved. Do they? How do you know what colour the culprit is? Do you have any data on the skin colour of hotel residents? Sounds like you are making racist assumptions about refugees." Sorry you seem to have confused me with someone else. To clarify, I'm not a violent racist, nor to I post on a swingers forum in support of violent race-hate enthusiasts. Hope that helps. | |||
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"Race riots 2025 Brought on be Fagash and island of strangers speech What do people expect when you have far right agitators stoking hate against the most vulnerable people seeking safety and then the actual prime minister delivering a speech that validates their far right thoughts. It is not acceptable, it is racist and everyone supporting such nonsense should be thoroughly ashamed!! I bet you don't even realise how close you are to actual Nazis hating Jews but this time it's Brown people are acceptable targets Migrants have been staying at the Epping hotel since 2020. Then an Ethiopian migrant who had come across on a dinghy was charged with three counts of sexual assault 8 days after arriving. The “vulnerable people seeking safety” would appear to be Epping residents justifiably concerned about the safety of their community. You don't see these violent racists setting fire to hotels with British people in when a British person commits a crime. Seems like they only care when brown people are involved. Do they? How do you know what colour the culprit is? Do you have any data on the skin colour of hotel residents? Sounds like you are making racist assumptions about refugees. Deflection from your support for wrong doing will do it
I have simply stated the facts.
In return you spout your usual incoherent poorly spelt and grammatically incorrect gibberish.
So, no one is protesting outside private homes of accused criminals. Only hotels and only if their Ethiopian. Which does suggest they'd be Black!
So almost as if it's not the crime that's the problem
Their Ethiopian what?
Does it suggest they are black?
I don’t know what the demographics are in Ethiopia. All we know is that an illegal immigrant in the country for 8 days has been charged with sexual assault.
My main concern is for the unfortunate girl who has suffered this attack. If there were better border controls she wouldn’t have had to go through this ordeal.
As usual she doesn’t get any mention in Leftist World. Just another white chav moaning about nothing.
Clearly you don't know the demographic of Ethiopia.
You only care about girls who are "attacked" by migrants.
You're not protesting outside the houses of other men who have attacked girls.
It isn't the victim you care about but a baton to hit immigration
Your attitude is typical of what we have seen across the country from Leftist councils.
Young girls attacked by grooming gangs and their families should shut up about it. Nothing to see here. If it’s a choice between the safety of young girls and multiculturalist ideology then the girls are the last consideration. They just need to shut their mouths and accept their lot. They are trash anyway so who cares?
But it’s good to see that Leftists have learnt nothing.
Reform should be paying you to do their recruitment.
Seeing as you've made that up
I've said it's a matter for the police!
Not the likes of you who want any stock to beat immigration."“Matter for the police”! So people aren’t allowed to protest now in Labour Land, unless it’s about pre approved topics like Gaza or trans rights. Everyone else should sit back and leave it to the authorities who know best. | |||
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"If they got back in their dinghy’s and sailed home there’d be no riots. " Hard agree. But the violent rioting racists can go home via any method, not just dinghys. | |||
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"If they got back in their dinghy’s and sailed home there’d be no riots. Hard agree. But the violent rioting racists can go home via any method, not just dinghys." Long way from Ethiopia to Epping by dinghy. | |||
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"Race riots 2025 Brought on be Fagash and island of strangers speech What do people expect when you have far right agitators stoking hate against the most vulnerable people seeking safety and then the actual prime minister delivering a speech that validates their far right thoughts. It is not acceptable, it is racist and everyone supporting such nonsense should be thoroughly ashamed!! I bet you don't even realise how close you are to actual Nazis hating Jews but this time it's Brown people are acceptable targets Migrants have been staying at the Epping hotel since 2020. Then an Ethiopian migrant who had come across on a dinghy was charged with three counts of sexual assault 8 days after arriving. The “vulnerable people seeking safety” would appear to be Epping residents justifiably concerned about the safety of their community. You don't see these violent racists setting fire to hotels with British people in when a British person commits a crime. Seems like they only care when brown people are involved. Do they? How do you know what colour the culprit is? Do you have any data on the skin colour of hotel residents? Sounds like you are making racist assumptions about refugees. Deflection from your support for wrong doing will do it
I have simply stated the facts.
In return you spout your usual incoherent poorly spelt and grammatically incorrect gibberish.
So, no one is protesting outside private homes of accused criminals. Only hotels and only if their Ethiopian. Which does suggest they'd be Black!
So almost as if it's not the crime that's the problem
Their Ethiopian what?
Does it suggest they are black?
I don’t know what the demographics are in Ethiopia. All we know is that an illegal immigrant in the country for 8 days has been charged with sexual assault.
My main concern is for the unfortunate girl who has suffered this attack. If there were better border controls she wouldn’t have had to go through this ordeal.
As usual she doesn’t get any mention in Leftist World. Just another white chav moaning about nothing.
Clearly you don't know the demographic of Ethiopia.
You only care about girls who are "attacked" by migrants.
You're not protesting outside the houses of other men who have attacked girls.
It isn't the victim you care about but a baton to hit immigration
Your attitude is typical of what we have seen across the country from Leftist councils.
Young girls attacked by grooming gangs and their families should shut up about it. Nothing to see here. If it’s a choice between the safety of young girls and multiculturalist ideology then the girls are the last consideration. They just need to shut their mouths and accept their lot. They are trash anyway so who cares?
But it’s good to see that Leftists have learnt nothing.
Reform should be paying you to do their recruitment.
Seeing as you've made that up
I've said it's a matter for the police!
Not the likes of you who want any stock to beat immigration.
“Matter for the police”!
So people aren’t allowed to protest now in Labour Land, unless it’s about pre approved topics like Gaza or trans rights.
Everyone else should sit back and leave it to the authorities who know best."On matters of criminality yes unless you start protesting about all sexual crimes! Nightclubs, private homes, work places....not just hotels housing migrants | |||
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"Spending on refugee costs rose from £410 million in 2016 to £4,273 million in 2023 (HOC). Their bill equivalent to approximately £129 per tax payer a year, or £2.50 a week. And people are complaining about the cost of living. Rioters not helping either pushing up the costs of law enforcement. " Ok, now how much has it come down in the past year? | |||
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"If they got back in their dinghy’s and sailed home there’d be no riots. Hard agree. But the violent rioting racists can go home via any method, not just dinghys. Long way from Ethiopia to Epping by dinghy." Are you suggesting that the violent racists that attacked the hotel in Epping came from Ethiopia? Bizarre claim. | |||
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"If they got back in their dinghy’s and sailed home there’d be no riots. Hard agree. But the violent rioting racists can go home via any method, not just dinghys. Long way from Ethiopia to Epping by dinghy." Indeed, that's how desperate they are, of course the Med and channel would be by dinghies the rest foot or Hitch hike | |||
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"If they got back in their dinghy’s and sailed home there’d be no riots. Hard agree. But the violent rioting racists can go home via any method, not just dinghys. Long way from Ethiopia to Epping by dinghy. Indeed, that's how desperate they are, of course the Med and channel would be by dinghies the rest foot or Hitch hike " All that way just to commit a sexual assault. Truly desperate. | |||
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"If they got back in their dinghy’s and sailed home there’d be no riots. Hard agree. But the violent rioting racists can go home via any method, not just dinghys. Long way from Ethiopia to Epping by dinghy. Indeed, that's how desperate they are, of course the Med and channel would be by dinghies the rest foot or Hitch hike All that way just to commit a sexual assault. Truly desperate." Allegedly | |||
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"If they got back in their dinghy’s and sailed home there’d be no riots. Hard agree. But the violent rioting racists can go home via any method, not just dinghys. Long way from Ethiopia to Epping by dinghy. Indeed, that's how desperate they are, of course the Med and channel would be by dinghies the rest foot or Hitch hike All that way just to commit a sexual assault. Truly desperate. Allegedly " The new Leftist mantra: “Believe all perpetrators (as long as they are foreigners)”. | |||
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"If they got back in their dinghy’s and sailed home there’d be no riots. Hard agree. But the violent rioting racists can go home via any method, not just dinghys. Long way from Ethiopia to Epping by dinghy. Indeed, that's how desperate they are, of course the Med and channel would be by dinghies the rest foot or Hitch hike All that way just to commit a sexual assault. Truly desperate. Allegedly The new Leftist mantra: “Believe all perpetrators (as long as they are foreigners)”." No, a staple of British judiciary, innocent untill proven guilty. | |||
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"There is a lot of one sided bias in this thread as per... There has been violent disorder from the left as well as the right, the protest was initially to call for the hotel to be closed and stop housing migrants. If the people of Epping don't want their towns hotels to be used to house migrants, should their request be heard and actioned or ignored? No only the truth that sits unwell with your hard right sentiments What are you saying "no" to exactly? The protest, you! People can't choose where the government decide to house immigrants. They've done nothing wrong and *if* they do we have the police to deal with it. Same as any other crime in that area and in our country. If people can't have influence in their own towns on what they consider important issues, should we expect them to become angry or just sit and take whatever comes their way? No, the government has chosen to house migrants. Your racist beliefs doesn't override their right to asylum. I'm going to ask you to not to call me a racist again! I find your remarks totally unacceptable." I didn't mean you personally but you in the wider aspect of people who allegedly hide their racist beliefs under legitimate concerns. When their isn't any, none that make migrants any more of a concern to the public than any other person. But please carry on being offended and a snowflake | |||
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"Your all wrong! They must prove who they are and what and where they are fleeing. Biometrics are taken even if they can't be verified due to lack biometrics from the country their fleeing. However, you can't pretend language or familial ties " They must prove who they are, even of they can't be verified. 
So, we rely on self identification and we also have 98% people here who we have not been able to verify.
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"There is a lot of one sided bias in this thread as per... There has been violent disorder from the left as well as the right, the protest was initially to call for the hotel to be closed and stop housing migrants. If the people of Epping don't want their towns hotels to be used to house migrants, should their request be heard and actioned or ignored? Back to the false equivalence again. Normal people, non-racists being non violent aren't equally extreme as far right violent racists. Are you actually defending the left wing fanatics that were bused in and started fighting? Are you up to speed with the events in Epping? How do you know all the non-racists were "left wing"? I don't actually know they were non-racist to be fair, what I do know is they were bused in for a fight and got one. Are you aware? If they're involved in a counter protest against the violent racists. It's probably a safe bet to assume they're non-racists. But that wasn't my question. How do you know the non-racists were left wingers? There are people who aren't racist across the political spectrum. I have said I don't know if they were non-racist and I don't know if they are left wing. All I know is they were shipped in looking for a fight and got one when the others were shipped in looking for similar. Meanwhile the people living in Epping still have concerns about migrants being housed in large numbers in their town. What is the answer to that, how do the authorities remove the concerns of the people living there? Ah okay, so you were mistaken calling them "the left". Fair enough. Meanwhile lots of people living in Epping are normal people and aren't happy about racists coming in on busses to attack hotels. What is the answer to that, how do the authorities remove the concerns of the people living there? You answer my question first Johnny, and we will go from there.
Okay, I suppose the answer to your question is, better education. Get people access to an education system that allows them to analyse information presented to them by the media, so they don't mindless blame immigrants for everything going wrong in their community.
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"Your all wrong! They must prove who they are and what and where they are fleeing. Biometrics are taken even if they can't be verified due to lack biometrics from the country their fleeing. However, you can't pretend language or familial ties They must prove who they are, even of they can't be verified.
So, we rely on self identification and we also have 98% people here who we have not been able to verify.
Can you see that this is a concern for people, large numbers of unverified people being housed in their community. I think it is a fair concern."No, because I don't ask you to prove who you are. We are not a papers please society. They've done the checks to prove they are in need and that's fine. If people then commit crime that's down to the police | |||
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So, we rely on self identification and we also have 98% people here who we have not been able to verify.
Can you see that this is a concern for people, large numbers of unverified people being housed in their community. I think it is a fair concern.
No, because I don't ask you to prove who you are.
We are not a papers please society.
They've done the checks to prove they are in need and that's fine.
If people then commit crime that's down to the police "Please take a moment to look at the scenario: 98% have no ID. We can't check who they are with the country they left. We can only take their word as to who they say they are. We can only take their word as to why they arrived here looking for asylum. We know they are schooled to pass the questions for asylum and how to avoid being identified. And now we know nothing about them, we house them in large numbers in hotels. If they now go on to commit crimes it is up to the police to sort it out, because the government have done their bit in finding out nothing about them, so what more can they do... | |||
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"Your all wrong! They must prove who they are and what and where they are fleeing. Biometrics are taken even if they can't be verified due to lack biometrics from the country their fleeing. However, you can't pretend language or familial ties They must prove who they are, even of they can't be verified.
So, we rely on self identification and we also have 98% people here who we have not been able to verify.
Can you see that this is a concern for people, large numbers of unverified people being housed in their community. I think it is a fair concern.
No, because I don't ask you to prove who you are.
We are not a papers please society.
They've done the checks to prove they are in need and that's fine.
If people then commit crime that's down to the police
Please take a moment to look at the scenario:
98% have no ID.
We can't check who they are with the country they left.
We can only take their word as to who they say they are.
We can only take their word as to why they arrived here looking for asylum.
We know they are schooled to pass the questions for asylum and how to avoid being identified.
And now we know nothing about them, we house them in large numbers in hotels. If they now go on to commit crimes it is up to the police to sort it out, because the government have done their bit in finding out nothing about them, so what more can they do... "And who are you? With hate in heart? How can I prove your British with British interest at heart? To me you come across as anti British as anti the workers!! How do I know you are British? | |||
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Okay, I suppose the answer to your question is, better education. Get people access to an education system that allows them to analyse information presented to them by the media, so they don't mindless blame immigrants for everything going wrong in their community.
I can't disagree with that, this thread is highlighting a lack of understanding around the basics, which leads to arguments that need not have occurred."Not only does the lack of education lead to confusion on a pointless politics section on a swingers forum. But arguably more importantly, it leads to racists becoming violent. How about the answer to my question. You mentioned you'd answer if I answered yours. | |||
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Okay, I suppose the answer to your question is, better education. Get people access to an education system that allows them to analyse information presented to them by the media, so they don't mindless blame immigrants for everything going wrong in their community.
I can't disagree with that, this thread is highlighting a lack of understanding around the basics, which leads to arguments that need not have occurred.
Not only does the lack of education lead to confusion on a pointless politics section on a swingers forum. But arguably more importantly, it leads to racists becoming violent.
How about the answer to my question. You mentioned you'd answer if I answered yours."To answer your question. Unless we can identify the person arriving by irregular means we do not house them in hotels. Secondary to this and just as important, we should have a zero tolerance crime policy for any migrant who arrived by irregular means and as yet to be granted asylum. Their removal from the country should follow a jail sentence. This should provide some reassurances to residents around country, whilst laying down foundations of success for migrant arrivals to follow. | |||
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Okay, I suppose the answer to your question is, better education. Get people access to an education system that allows them to analyse information presented to them by the media, so they don't mindless blame immigrants for everything going wrong in their community.
I can't disagree with that, this thread is highlighting a lack of understanding around the basics, which leads to arguments that need not have occurred.
Not only does the lack of education lead to confusion on a pointless politics section on a swingers forum. But arguably more importantly, it leads to racists becoming violent.
How about the answer to my question. You mentioned you'd answer if I answered yours.
To answer your question. Unless we can identify the person arriving by irregular means we do not house them in hotels. Secondary to this and just as important, we should have a zero tolerance crime policy for any migrant who arrived by irregular means and as yet to be granted asylum. Their removal from the country should follow a jail sentence.
This should provide some reassurances to residents around country, whilst laying down foundations of success for migrant arrivals to follow."You didn't address my question at all. | |||
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Okay, I suppose the answer to your question is, better education. Get people access to an education system that allows them to analyse information presented to them by the media, so they don't mindless blame immigrants for everything going wrong in their community.
I can't disagree with that, this thread is highlighting a lack of understanding around the basics, which leads to arguments that need not have occurred.
Not only does the lack of education lead to confusion on a pointless politics section on a swingers forum. But arguably more importantly, it leads to racists becoming violent.
How about the answer to my question. You mentioned you'd answer if I answered yours.
To answer your question. Unless we can identify the person arriving by irregular means we do not house them in hotels. Secondary to this and just as important, we should have a zero tolerance crime policy for any migrant who arrived by irregular means and as yet to be granted asylum. Their removal from the country should follow a jail sentence.
This should provide some reassurances to residents around country, whilst laying down foundations of success for migrant arrivals to follow.
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Okay, I suppose the answer to your question is, better education. Get people access to an education system that allows them to analyse information presented to them by the media, so they don't mindless blame immigrants for everything going wrong in their community.
I can't disagree with that, this thread is highlighting a lack of understanding around the basics, which leads to arguments that need not have occurred.
Not only does the lack of education lead to confusion on a pointless politics section on a swingers forum. But arguably more importantly, it leads to racists becoming violent.
How about the answer to my question. You mentioned you'd answer if I answered yours.
To answer your question. Unless we can identify the person arriving by irregular means we do not house them in hotels. Secondary to this and just as important, we should have a zero tolerance crime policy for any migrant who arrived by irregular means and as yet to be granted asylum. Their removal from the country should follow a jail sentence.
This should provide some reassurances to residents around country, whilst laying down foundations of success for migrant arrivals to follow.
You didn't address my question at all.
Apologises I thought I had, ask it again if I have misunderstood. "I reflected your question back to you to ask, not about how to help the anti-immigrant locals, but how to help the locals who don't want racists getting bussed in to attack hotels and cause incidents. "Meanwhile lots of people living in Epping are normal people and aren't happy about racists coming in on busses to attack hotels. What is the answer to that, how do the authorities remove the concerns of the people living there? " If I was living in Epping, I'd be much more concerned about gangs of violent racists, than I would be concerned about foreigners. | |||
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"Race riots 2025 Brought on be Fagash and island of strangers speech What do people expect when you have far right agitators stoking hate against the most vulnerable people seeking safety and then the actual prime minister delivering a speech that validates their far right thoughts. It is not acceptable, it is racist and everyone supporting such nonsense should be thoroughly ashamed!! I bet you don't even realise how close you are to actual Nazis hating Jews but this time it's Brown people are acceptable targets " your blaming farage for this? I think he was on tv yesterday calling them vile | |||
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"Race riots 2025 Brought on be Fagash and island of strangers speech What do people expect when you have far right agitators stoking hate against the most vulnerable people seeking safety and then the actual prime minister delivering a speech that validates their far right thoughts. It is not acceptable, it is racist and everyone supporting such nonsense should be thoroughly ashamed!! I bet you don't even realise how close you are to actual Nazis hating Jews but this time it's Brown people are acceptable targets Migrants have been staying at the Epping hotel since 2020. Then an Ethiopian migrant who had come across on a dinghy was charged with three counts of sexual assault 8 days after arriving. The “vulnerable people seeking safety” would appear to be Epping residents justifiably concerned about the safety of their community. You don't see these violent racists setting fire to hotels with British people in when a British person commits a crime. Seems like they only care when brown people are involved. " I've not seen anyone set the hotel in epping ablaze although I did see a hotel down the road from epping that had been set ablaze by one of the residents,they moved him to another hotel and he set fire to his room at that one aswell,was charged with arson after the 2nd blaze | |||
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"Race riots 2025 Brought on be Fagash and island of strangers speech What do people expect when you have far right agitators stoking hate against the most vulnerable people seeking safety and then the actual prime minister delivering a speech that validates their far right thoughts. It is not acceptable, it is racist and everyone supporting such nonsense should be thoroughly ashamed!! I bet you don't even realise how close you are to actual Nazis hating Jews but this time it's Brown people are acceptable targets your blaming farage for this? I think he was on tv yesterday calling them vile" Yes his rhetoric despite what he claims, his rhetoric is inflammatory! He seeks to blame minorities! | |||
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"There is a lot of one sided bias in this thread as per... There has been violent disorder from the left as well as the right, the protest was initially to call for the hotel to be closed and stop housing migrants. If the people of Epping don't want their towns hotels to be used to house migrants, should their request be heard and actioned or ignored? Back to the false equivalence again. Normal people, non-racists being non violent aren't equally extreme as far right violent racists. Are you actually defending the left wing fanatics that were bused in and started fighting? Are you up to speed with the events in Epping? How do you know all the non-racists were "left wing"? I don't actually know they were non-racist to be fair, what I do know is they were bused in for a fight and got one. Are you aware? If they're involved in a counter protest against the violent racists. It's probably a safe bet to assume they're non-racists. But that wasn't my question. How do you know the non-racists were left wingers? There are people who aren't racist across the political spectrum. I have said I don't know if they were non-racist and I don't know if they are left wing. All I know is they were shipped in looking for a fight and got one when the others were shipped in looking for similar. Meanwhile the people living in Epping still have concerns about migrants being housed in large numbers in their town. What is the answer to that, how do the authorities remove the concerns of the people living there? Ah okay, so you were mistaken calling them "the left". Fair enough. Meanwhile lots of people living in Epping are normal people and aren't happy about racists coming in on busses to attack hotels. What is the answer to that, how do the authorities remove the concerns of the people living there? You answer my question first Johnny, and we will go from there.
Okay, I suppose the answer to your question is, better education. Get people access to an education system that allows them to analyse information presented to them by the media, so they don't mindless blame immigrants for everything going wrong in their community.
I can't disagree with that, this thread is highlighting a lack of understanding around the basics, which leads to arguments that need not have occurred.
Not only does the lack of education lead to confusion on a pointless politics section on a swingers forum. But arguably more importantly, it leads to racists becoming violent.
How about the answer to my question. You mentioned you'd answer if I answered yours.
To answer your question. Unless we can identify the person arriving by irregular means we do not house them in hotels. Secondary to this and just as important, we should have a zero tolerance crime policy for any migrant who arrived by irregular means and as yet to be granted asylum. Their removal from the country should follow a jail sentence.
This should provide some reassurances to residents around country, whilst laying down foundations of success for migrant arrivals to follow.
You didn't address my question at all.
Apologises I thought I had, ask it again if I have misunderstood.
I reflected your question back to you to ask, not about how to help the anti-immigrant locals, but how to help the locals who don't want racists getting bussed in to attack hotels and cause incidents.
"Meanwhile lots of people living in Epping are normal people and aren't happy about racists coming in on busses to attack hotels. What is the answer to that, how do the authorities remove the concerns of the people living there? "
If I was living in Epping, I'd be much more concerned about gangs of violent racists, than I would be concerned about foreigners."That is your perspective but not that of many of the residents of Epping. The obvious answer is the police or residents can't stop anyone coming to the town under the guise of protest, this gives them the in. Starmer applied tough measures last year to deter this behaviour but it hasn't been significant enough to act as a deterrent. A fair few of the counter protestors are were as much the agitators as the protestors who were also bused in, maybe they should have hired a private field and slugged it out there. | |||
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Okay, I suppose the answer to your question is, better education. Get people access to an education system that allows them to analyse information presented to them by the media, so they don't mindless blame immigrants for everything going wrong in their community.
I can't disagree with that, this thread is highlighting a lack of understanding around the basics, which leads to arguments that need not have occurred.
Not only does the lack of education lead to confusion on a pointless politics section on a swingers forum. But arguably more importantly, it leads to racists becoming violent.
How about the answer to my question. You mentioned you'd answer if I answered yours.
To answer your question. Unless we can identify the person arriving by irregular means we do not house them in hotels. Secondary to this and just as important, we should have a zero tolerance crime policy for any migrant who arrived by irregular means and as yet to be granted asylum. Their removal from the country should follow a jail sentence.
This should provide some reassurances to residents around country, whilst laying down foundations of success for migrant arrivals to follow.
You didn't address my question at all.
Apologises I thought I had, ask it again if I have misunderstood.
I reflected your question back to you to ask, not about how to help the anti-immigrant locals, but how to help the locals who don't want racists getting bussed in to attack hotels and cause incidents.
"Meanwhile lots of people living in Epping are normal people and aren't happy about racists coming in on busses to attack hotels. What is the answer to that, how do the authorities remove the concerns of the people living there? "
If I was living in Epping, I'd be much more concerned about gangs of violent racists, than I would be concerned about foreigners.
That is your perspective but not that of many of the residents of Epping.
The obvious answer is the police or residents can't stop anyone coming to the town under the guise of protest, this gives them the in. Starmer applied tough measures last year to deter this behaviour but it hasn't been significant enough to act as a deterrent.
A fair few of the counter protestors are were as much the agitators as the protestors who were also bused in, maybe they should have hired a private field and slugged it out there.
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Okay, I suppose the answer to your question is, better education. Get people access to an education system that allows them to analyse information presented to them by the media, so they don't mindless blame immigrants for everything going wrong in their community.
I can't disagree with that, this thread is highlighting a lack of understanding around the basics, which leads to arguments that need not have occurred.
Not only does the lack of education lead to confusion on a pointless politics section on a swingers forum. But arguably more importantly, it leads to racists becoming violent.
How about the answer to my question. You mentioned you'd answer if I answered yours.
To answer your question. Unless we can identify the person arriving by irregular means we do not house them in hotels. Secondary to this and just as important, we should have a zero tolerance crime policy for any migrant who arrived by irregular means and as yet to be granted asylum. Their removal from the country should follow a jail sentence.
This should provide some reassurances to residents around country, whilst laying down foundations of success for migrant arrivals to follow.
You didn't address my question at all.
Apologises I thought I had, ask it again if I have misunderstood.
I reflected your question back to you to ask, not about how to help the anti-immigrant locals, but how to help the locals who don't want racists getting bussed in to attack hotels and cause incidents.
"Meanwhile lots of people living in Epping are normal people and aren't happy about racists coming in on busses to attack hotels. What is the answer to that, how do the authorities remove the concerns of the people living there? "
If I was living in Epping, I'd be much more concerned about gangs of violent racists, than I would be concerned about foreigners.
That is your perspective but not that of many of the residents of Epping."That's an extremely cynical view of the residents of Epping. Do you really think they're that bad? " The obvious answer is the police or residents can't stop anyone coming to the town under the guise of protest, this gives them the in. Starmer applied tough measures last year to deter this behaviour but it hasn't been significant enough to act as a deterrent. A fair few of the counter protestors are were as much the agitators as the protestors who were also bused in, maybe they should have hired a private field and slugged it out there. " So nothing can really be done to dissuade racists from getting violent. Fair enough. | |||
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Okay, I suppose the answer to your question is, better education. Get people access to an education system that allows them to analyse information presented to them by the media, so they don't mindless blame immigrants for everything going wrong in their community.
I can't disagree with that, this thread is highlighting a lack of understanding around the basics, which leads to arguments that need not have occurred.
Not only does the lack of education lead to confusion on a pointless politics section on a swingers forum. But arguably more importantly, it leads to racists becoming violent.
How about the answer to my question. You mentioned you'd answer if I answered yours.
To answer your question. Unless we can identify the person arriving by irregular means we do not house them in hotels. Secondary to this and just as important, we should have a zero tolerance crime policy for any migrant who arrived by irregular means and as yet to be granted asylum. Their removal from the country should follow a jail sentence.
This should provide some reassurances to residents around country, whilst laying down foundations of success for migrant arrivals to follow.
You didn't address my question at all.
Apologises I thought I had, ask it again if I have misunderstood.
I reflected your question back to you to ask, not about how to help the anti-immigrant locals, but how to help the locals who don't want racists getting bussed in to attack hotels and cause incidents.
"Meanwhile lots of people living in Epping are normal people and aren't happy about racists coming in on busses to attack hotels. What is the answer to that, how do the authorities remove the concerns of the people living there? "
If I was living in Epping, I'd be much more concerned about gangs of violent racists, than I would be concerned about foreigners.
That is your perspective but not that of many of the residents of Epping.
That's an extremely cynical view of the residents of Epping. Do you really think they're that bad?
The obvious answer is the police or residents can't stop anyone coming to the town under the guise of protest, this gives them the in. Starmer applied tough measures last year to deter this behaviour but it hasn't been significant enough to act as a deterrent.
A fair few of the counter protestors are were as much the agitators as the protestors who were also bused in, maybe they should have hired a private field and slugged it out there.
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Okay, I suppose the answer to your question is, better education. Get people access to an education system that allows them to analyse information presented to them by the media, so they don't mindless blame immigrants for everything going wrong in their community.
I can't disagree with that, this thread is highlighting a lack of understanding around the basics, which leads to arguments that need not have occurred.
Not only does the lack of education lead to confusion on a pointless politics section on a swingers forum. But arguably more importantly, it leads to racists becoming violent.
How about the answer to my question. You mentioned you'd answer if I answered yours.
To answer your question. Unless we can identify the person arriving by irregular means we do not house them in hotels. Secondary to this and just as important, we should have a zero tolerance crime policy for any migrant who arrived by irregular means and as yet to be granted asylum. Their removal from the country should follow a jail sentence.
This should provide some reassurances to residents around country, whilst laying down foundations of success for migrant arrivals to follow.
You didn't address my question at all.
Apologises I thought I had, ask it again if I have misunderstood.
I reflected your question back to you to ask, not about how to help the anti-immigrant locals, but how to help the locals who don't want racists getting bussed in to attack hotels and cause incidents.
"Meanwhile lots of people living in Epping are normal people and aren't happy about racists coming in on busses to attack hotels. What is the answer to that, how do the authorities remove the concerns of the people living there? "
If I was living in Epping, I'd be much more concerned about gangs of violent racists, than I would be concerned about foreigners.
That is your perspective but not that of many of the residents of Epping.
That's an extremely cynical view of the residents of Epping. Do you really think they're that bad?
The obvious answer is the police or residents can't stop anyone coming to the town under the guise of protest, this gives them the in. Starmer applied tough measures last year to deter this behaviour but it hasn't been significant enough to act as a deterrent.
A fair few of the counter protestors are were as much the agitators as the protestors who were also bused in, maybe they should have hired a private field and slugged it out there.
So nothing can really be done to dissuade racists from getting violent. Fair enough.
What would you suggest? "Now that is a question worth debating. How do we tackle it. The problem is endemic, it's wrapped up in the media, the politics of this country. It's used as a tool to control the population, how we act, how we vote. I genuinely don't know, it's probably something that's so ingrained, such a part of the way that politics, the media, and big corporations run that it's not going to change in our lifetimes. | |||
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Okay, I suppose the answer to your question is, better education. Get people access to an education system that allows them to analyse information presented to them by the media, so they don't mindless blame immigrants for everything going wrong in their community.
I can't disagree with that, this thread is highlighting a lack of understanding around the basics, which leads to arguments that need not have occurred.
Not only does the lack of education lead to confusion on a pointless politics section on a swingers forum. But arguably more importantly, it leads to racists becoming violent.
How about the answer to my question. You mentioned you'd answer if I answered yours.
To answer your question. Unless we can identify the person arriving by irregular means we do not house them in hotels. Secondary to this and just as important, we should have a zero tolerance crime policy for any migrant who arrived by irregular means and as yet to be granted asylum. Their removal from the country should follow a jail sentence.
This should provide some reassurances to residents around country, whilst laying down foundations of success for migrant arrivals to follow.
You didn't address my question at all.
Apologises I thought I had, ask it again if I have misunderstood.
I reflected your question back to you to ask, not about how to help the anti-immigrant locals, but how to help the locals who don't want racists getting bussed in to attack hotels and cause incidents.
"Meanwhile lots of people living in Epping are normal people and aren't happy about racists coming in on busses to attack hotels. What is the answer to that, how do the authorities remove the concerns of the people living there? "
If I was living in Epping, I'd be much more concerned about gangs of violent racists, than I would be concerned about foreigners.
That is your perspective but not that of many of the residents of Epping.
That's an extremely cynical view of the residents of Epping. Do you really think they're that bad?
The obvious answer is the police or residents can't stop anyone coming to the town under the guise of protest, this gives them the in. Starmer applied tough measures last year to deter this behaviour but it hasn't been significant enough to act as a deterrent.
A fair few of the counter protestors are were as much the agitators as the protestors who were also bused in, maybe they should have hired a private field and slugged it out there.
So nothing can really be done to dissuade racists from getting violent. Fair enough.
What would you suggest?
Now that is a question worth debating.
How do we tackle it. The problem is endemic, it's wrapped up in the media, the politics of this country. It's used as a tool to control the population, how we act, how we vote.
I genuinely don't know, it's probably something that's so ingrained, such a part of the way that politics, the media, and big corporations run that it's not going to change in our lifetimes."The health of the country is a major contributing factor towards unrest, it always has been and always will be. I have no idea why the government doesn't have a playbook for times like this, we have been through it many times, the only go to solution is send in the police and send em down. Rinse and repeat. | |||
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Okay, I suppose the answer to your question is, better education. Get people access to an education system that allows them to analyse information presented to them by the media, so they don't mindless blame immigrants for everything going wrong in their community.
I can't disagree with that, this thread is highlighting a lack of understanding around the basics, which leads to arguments that need not have occurred.
Not only does the lack of education lead to confusion on a pointless politics section on a swingers forum. But arguably more importantly, it leads to racists becoming violent.
How about the answer to my question. You mentioned you'd answer if I answered yours.
To answer your question. Unless we can identify the person arriving by irregular means we do not house them in hotels. Secondary to this and just as important, we should have a zero tolerance crime policy for any migrant who arrived by irregular means and as yet to be granted asylum. Their removal from the country should follow a jail sentence.
This should provide some reassurances to residents around country, whilst laying down foundations of success for migrant arrivals to follow.
You didn't address my question at all.
Apologises I thought I had, ask it again if I have misunderstood.
I reflected your question back to you to ask, not about how to help the anti-immigrant locals, but how to help the locals who don't want racists getting bussed in to attack hotels and cause incidents.
"Meanwhile lots of people living in Epping are normal people and aren't happy about racists coming in on busses to attack hotels. What is the answer to that, how do the authorities remove the concerns of the people living there? "
If I was living in Epping, I'd be much more concerned about gangs of violent racists, than I would be concerned about foreigners.
That is your perspective but not that of many of the residents of Epping.
That's an extremely cynical view of the residents of Epping. Do you really think they're that bad?
The obvious answer is the police or residents can't stop anyone coming to the town under the guise of protest, this gives them the in. Starmer applied tough measures last year to deter this behaviour but it hasn't been significant enough to act as a deterrent.
A fair few of the counter protestors are were as much the agitators as the protestors who were also bused in, maybe they should have hired a private field and slugged it out there.
So nothing can really be done to dissuade racists from getting violent. Fair enough.
What would you suggest?
Now that is a question worth debating.
How do we tackle it. The problem is endemic, it's wrapped up in the media, the politics of this country. It's used as a tool to control the population, how we act, how we vote.
I genuinely don't know, it's probably something that's so ingrained, such a part of the way that politics, the media, and big corporations run that it's not going to change in our lifetimes.
The health of the country is a major contributing factor towards unrest, it always has been and always will be. I have no idea why the government doesn't have a playbook for times like this, we have been through it many times, the only go to solution is send in the police and send em down. Rinse and repeat.
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"Quote from money week "It seems like the wealthy have hit breaking point and the latest Wealth Migration Report by advisory firm Henley & Partners forecasts that the UK will lose 16,500 millionaires this year as they flock to more tax-friendly environments. The figure is more than double the anticipated –7,800 net outflow from second place China. It is the first time a European country has topped the table which has been dominated by Chinese exits for the past decade. Juerg Steffen, chief executive of Henley & Partners, said: “2025 marks a pivotal moment. For the first time in a decade of tracking, a European country leads the world in millionaire outflows. This isn’t just about changes to the tax regime. It reflects a deepening perception among the wealthy that greater opportunity, freedom, and stability lie elsewhere. The long-term implications for Europe and the UK’s economic competitiveness and investment appeal are significant.” I doubt they'll be leaving their wealth behind, these guys have accountants and advisors that will run rings round HMRC " The UK has been turning into a failed parochial backwater for decades, alongside the rest of Europe. The only things that Europe and the UK are leaders at are spending money they haven’t got and thinking the rest of the world owes them a living because of old buildings and some wars they won a long time ago. They’ve just become fat and lazy, happy to plod along on benefits until the overdraft finally runs out. | |||
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"Quote from money week "It seems like the wealthy have hit breaking point and the latest Wealth Migration Report by advisory firm Henley & Partners forecasts that the UK will lose 16,500 millionaires this year as they flock to more tax-friendly environments. The figure is more than double the anticipated –7,800 net outflow from second place China. It is the first time a European country has topped the table which has been dominated by Chinese exits for the past decade. Juerg Steffen, chief executive of Henley & Partners, said: “2025 marks a pivotal moment. For the first time in a decade of tracking, a European country leads the world in millionaire outflows. This isn’t just about changes to the tax regime. It reflects a deepening perception among the wealthy that greater opportunity, freedom, and stability lie elsewhere. The long-term implications for Europe and the UK’s economic competitiveness and investment appeal are significant.” I doubt they'll be leaving their wealth behind, these guys have accountants and advisors that will run rings round HMRC " Ignoring the millionaire outflows. This is the challenge ahead. Reduced economic growth, highest inflation in G7, rising unemployment, less homeowners, less final salary pensions, £3trn in debt, 9.5 million on benefits, quarter of the nation obese, hundreds of billions needed for public services, climate change, to cite just a few | |||
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"Protests seem to be moving on to Canary Wharf now. Maybe the illegals weren’t happy in Epping. Are they all illegal, they didn't arrest them all did they? Why have they been let out already to participate in more race hate themed violence? That doesn't seem right. " Right illegals are going to get arrested in the UK! You should do standup! One day you are lazing around in a tent in France and the next the UK taxpayer is putting you up at a £450 a night hotel in Canary Wharf that 99% of the UK population couldn’t afford. Difficult to understand what the attraction is. | |||
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"Protests seem to be moving on to Canary Wharf now. Maybe the illegals weren’t happy in Epping. Are they all illegal, they didn't arrest them all did they? Why have they been let out already to participate in more race hate themed violence? That doesn't seem right. Right illegals are going to get arrested in the UK! You should do standup! One day you are lazing around in a tent in France and the next the UK taxpayer is putting you up at a £450 a night hotel in Canary Wharf that 99% of the UK population couldn’t afford. Difficult to understand what the attraction is. " Oh, you were mistakenly referring to the asylum seekers as "illegals", I assumed you knew what you were talking about and were referring to the violent racists that were breaking the law. As for the rest of the misinformation you posted. Even GBNews would be embarrassed. | |||
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"Protests seem to be moving on to Canary Wharf now. Maybe the illegals weren’t happy in Epping. Are they all illegal, they didn't arrest them all did they? Why have they been let out already to participate in more race hate themed violence? That doesn't seem right. Right illegals are going to get arrested in the UK! You should do standup! One day you are lazing around in a tent in France and the next the UK taxpayer is putting you up at a £450 a night hotel in Canary Wharf that 99% of the UK population couldn’t afford. Difficult to understand what the attraction is. Oh, you were mistakenly referring to the asylum seekers as "illegals", I assumed you knew what you were talking about and were referring to the violent racists that were breaking the law. As for the rest of the misinformation you posted. Even GBNews would be embarrassed.not asylum seekers Johnny two bob economic migrants" No, they were asylum seekers in the hotel that that violent racists attacked. Unless you have some evidence to suggest otherwise? | |||
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"Protests seem to be moving on to Canary Wharf now. Maybe the illegals weren’t happy in Epping. Are they all illegal, they didn't arrest them all did they? Why have they been let out already to participate in more race hate themed violence? That doesn't seem right. Right illegals are going to get arrested in the UK! You should do standup! One day you are lazing around in a tent in France and the next the UK taxpayer is putting you up at a £450 a night hotel in Canary Wharf that 99% of the UK population couldn’t afford. Difficult to understand what the attraction is. Oh, you were mistakenly referring to the asylum seekers as "illegals", I assumed you knew what you were talking about and were referring to the violent racists that were breaking the law. As for the rest of the misinformation you posted. Even GBNews would be embarrassed. The system fails the moment they do become illegal and that is not going to be fixed anytime soon. We also have no way of dealing with the huge numbers that are gaming the asylum system, as above. It is a deeply flawed policy that is costing us billions and causing social unrest. " Indeed, but what's this got to do with the violent racists? They don't give a fuck about anything like that. | |||
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"Protests seem to be moving on to Canary Wharf now. Maybe the illegals weren’t happy in Epping. Are they all illegal, they didn't arrest them all did they? Why have they been let out already to participate in more race hate themed violence? That doesn't seem right. Right illegals are going to get arrested in the UK! You should do standup! One day you are lazing around in a tent in France and the next the UK taxpayer is putting you up at a £450 a night hotel in Canary Wharf that 99% of the UK population couldn’t afford. Difficult to understand what the attraction is. Oh, you were mistakenly referring to the asylum seekers as "illegals", I assumed you knew what you were talking about and were referring to the violent racists that were breaking the law. As for the rest of the misinformation you posted. Even GBNews would be embarrassed. The system fails the moment they do become illegal and that is not going to be fixed anytime soon. We also have no way of dealing with the huge numbers that are gaming the asylum system, as above. It is a deeply flawed policy that is costing us billions and causing social unrest. Indeed, but what's this got to do with the violent racists? They don't give a fuck about anything like that." How about the normal people of Epping and the country that are concerned about this? Do you think they shouldn't be? | |||
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"Protests seem to be moving on to Canary Wharf now. Maybe the illegals weren’t happy in Epping. Are they all illegal, they didn't arrest them all did they? Why have they been let out already to participate in more race hate themed violence? That doesn't seem right. Right illegals are going to get arrested in the UK! You should do standup! One day you are lazing around in a tent in France and the next the UK taxpayer is putting you up at a £450 a night hotel in Canary Wharf that 99% of the UK population couldn’t afford. Difficult to understand what the attraction is. Oh, you were mistakenly referring to the asylum seekers as "illegals", I assumed you knew what you were talking about and were referring to the violent racists that were breaking the law. As for the rest of the misinformation you posted. Even GBNews would be embarrassed. The system fails the moment they do become illegal and that is not going to be fixed anytime soon. We also have no way of dealing with the huge numbers that are gaming the asylum system, as above. It is a deeply flawed policy that is costing us billions and causing social unrest. Indeed, but what's this got to do with the violent racists? They don't give a fuck about anything like that. How about the normal people of Epping and the country that are concerned about this? Do you think they shouldn't be? " We covered this before. You had an extremely unfavorable opinion of the people of Epping. I suggested that many of them don't hate foreigners, and are probably unhappy about the racists on their streets being violent. | |||
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"Protests seem to be moving on to Canary Wharf now. Maybe the illegals weren’t happy in Epping. Are they all illegal, they didn't arrest them all did they? Why have they been let out already to participate in more race hate themed violence? That doesn't seem right. Right illegals are going to get arrested in the UK! You should do standup! One day you are lazing around in a tent in France and the next the UK taxpayer is putting you up at a £450 a night hotel in Canary Wharf that 99% of the UK population couldn’t afford. Difficult to understand what the attraction is. Oh, you were mistakenly referring to the asylum seekers as "illegals", I assumed you knew what you were talking about and were referring to the violent racists that were breaking the law. As for the rest of the misinformation you posted. Even GBNews would be embarrassed.not asylum seekers Johnny two bob economic migrants No, they were asylum seekers in the hotel that that violent racists attacked. Unless you have some evidence to suggest otherwise? The hotel was not attacked as far as I'm aware. Do you know it was? You are also ignoring the rent a mob, who I believe are antifa, that turned up and started fighting. Are you suggesting the violent racists weren't being violent? What is it that you want me to comment about the non-racists?" Lets get some fact onto the table: What did those who became violent, do to express clearly they were racist? The other group, who arrived to counter protest, who was they counter protesting against exactly? And why did they arrive dressed in face masks and start fighting? Straight answers would be appreciated. | |||
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"Protests seem to be moving on to Canary Wharf now. Maybe the illegals weren’t happy in Epping. Are they all illegal, they didn't arrest them all did they? Why have they been let out already to participate in more race hate themed violence? That doesn't seem right. Right illegals are going to get arrested in the UK! You should do standup! One day you are lazing around in a tent in France and the next the UK taxpayer is putting you up at a £450 a night hotel in Canary Wharf that 99% of the UK population couldn’t afford. Difficult to understand what the attraction is. Oh, you were mistakenly referring to the asylum seekers as "illegals", I assumed you knew what you were talking about and were referring to the violent racists that were breaking the law. As for the rest of the misinformation you posted. Even GBNews would be embarrassed. The system fails the moment they do become illegal and that is not going to be fixed anytime soon. We also have no way of dealing with the huge numbers that are gaming the asylum system, as above. It is a deeply flawed policy that is costing us billions and causing social unrest. Indeed, but what's this got to do with the violent racists? They don't give a fuck about anything like that. How about the normal people of Epping and the country that are concerned about this? Do you think they shouldn't be? We covered this before. You had an extremely unfavorable opinion of the people of Epping. I suggested that many of them don't hate foreigners, and are probably unhappy about the racists on their streets being violent. " I have not had unfavourable opinion of the people of Epping, far from it. | |||
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"Protests seem to be moving on to Canary Wharf now. Maybe the illegals weren’t happy in Epping. Are they all illegal, they didn't arrest them all did they? Why have they been let out already to participate in more race hate themed violence? That doesn't seem right. Right illegals are going to get arrested in the UK! You should do standup! One day you are lazing around in a tent in France and the next the UK taxpayer is putting you up at a £450 a night hotel in Canary Wharf that 99% of the UK population couldn’t afford. Difficult to understand what the attraction is. Oh, you were mistakenly referring to the asylum seekers as "illegals", I assumed you knew what you were talking about and were referring to the violent racists that were breaking the law. As for the rest of the misinformation you posted. Even GBNews would be embarrassed.not asylum seekers Johnny two bob economic migrants No, they were asylum seekers in the hotel that that violent racists attacked. Unless you have some evidence to suggest otherwise?" No one attacked the hotel,they were stood across the road with a line of police across the entrance to the hotel,I watched the live stream,and you can call them asylum seekers if you like but they are economic migrants,I know that dosent fit your narrative but hey ho you have been wrong about so many things on the forums over the years anything you say is not to be belived | |||
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"Protests seem to be moving on to Canary Wharf now. Maybe the illegals weren’t happy in Epping. Are they all illegal, they didn't arrest them all did they? Why have they been let out already to participate in more race hate themed violence? That doesn't seem right. Right illegals are going to get arrested in the UK! You should do standup! One day you are lazing around in a tent in France and the next the UK taxpayer is putting you up at a £450 a night hotel in Canary Wharf that 99% of the UK population couldn’t afford. Difficult to understand what the attraction is. Oh, you were mistakenly referring to the asylum seekers as "illegals", I assumed you knew what you were talking about and were referring to the violent racists that were breaking the law. As for the rest of the misinformation you posted. Even GBNews would be embarrassed.not asylum seekers Johnny two bob economic migrants No, they were asylum seekers in the hotel that that violent racists attacked. Unless you have some evidence to suggest otherwise?No one attacked the hotel,they were stood across the road with a line of police across the entrance to the hotel,I watched the live stream,and you can call them asylum seekers if you like but they are economic migrants,I know that dosent fit your narrative but hey ho you have been wrong about so many things on the forums over the years anything you say is not to be belived" We can call them asylum seekers. Because that's what they are. The "narrative" is just reality. Your personal comments bear no relation to reality either. Let's try to stick to the topic instead of having a go at the poster? | |||
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"Protests seem to be moving on to Canary Wharf now. Maybe the illegals weren’t happy in Epping. Are they all illegal, they didn't arrest them all did they? Why have they been let out already to participate in more race hate themed violence? That doesn't seem right. Right illegals are going to get arrested in the UK! You should do standup! One day you are lazing around in a tent in France and the next the UK taxpayer is putting you up at a £450 a night hotel in Canary Wharf that 99% of the UK population couldn’t afford. Difficult to understand what the attraction is. Oh, you were mistakenly referring to the asylum seekers as "illegals", I assumed you knew what you were talking about and were referring to the violent racists that were breaking the law. As for the rest of the misinformation you posted. Even GBNews would be embarrassed.not asylum seekers Johnny two bob economic migrants No, they were asylum seekers in the hotel that that violent racists attacked. Unless you have some evidence to suggest otherwise? The hotel was not attacked as far as I'm aware. Do you know it was? You are also ignoring the rent a mob, who I believe are antifa, that turned up and started fighting. Are you suggesting the violent racists weren't being violent? What is it that you want me to comment about the non-racists? Lets get some fact onto the table: What did those who became violent, do to express clearly they were racist? The other group, who arrived to counter protest, who was they counter protesting against exactly? And why did they arrive dressed in face masks and start fighting? Straight answers would be appreciated.
Why are you asking me?
It's all been widely reported, feel free to read up about what happened."I'm asking you because it's you who is calling people racist. Why are you calling them racist, what did they do that was racist? | |||
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"Protests seem to be moving on to Canary Wharf now. Maybe the illegals weren’t happy in Epping. Are they all illegal, they didn't arrest them all did they? Why have they been let out already to participate in more race hate themed violence? That doesn't seem right. Right illegals are going to get arrested in the UK! You should do standup! One day you are lazing around in a tent in France and the next the UK taxpayer is putting you up at a £450 a night hotel in Canary Wharf that 99% of the UK population couldn’t afford. Difficult to understand what the attraction is. Oh, you were mistakenly referring to the asylum seekers as "illegals", I assumed you knew what you were talking about and were referring to the violent racists that were breaking the law. As for the rest of the misinformation you posted. Even GBNews would be embarrassed.not asylum seekers Johnny two bob economic migrants No, they were asylum seekers in the hotel that that violent racists attacked. Unless you have some evidence to suggest otherwise? The hotel was not attacked as far as I'm aware. Do you know it was? You are also ignoring the rent a mob, who I believe are antifa, that turned up and started fighting. Are you suggesting the violent racists weren't being violent? What is it that you want me to comment about the non-racists? Lets get some fact onto the table: What did those who became violent, do to express clearly they were racist? The other group, who arrived to counter protest, who was they counter protesting against exactly? And why did they arrive dressed in face masks and start fighting? Straight answers would be appreciated.
Why are you asking me?
It's all been widely reported, feel free to read up about what happened.
I'm asking you because it's you who is calling people racist. Why are you calling them racist, what did they do that was racist? "They participated in a racist protest. It's a fair bet. I'll be completely honest, I'm lost on what point you've been trying to make. | |||
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"Protests seem to be moving on to Canary Wharf now. Maybe the illegals weren’t happy in Epping. Are they all illegal, they didn't arrest them all did they? Why have they been let out already to participate in more race hate themed violence? That doesn't seem right. Right illegals are going to get arrested in the UK! You should do standup! One day you are lazing around in a tent in France and the next the UK taxpayer is putting you up at a £450 a night hotel in Canary Wharf that 99% of the UK population couldn’t afford. Difficult to understand what the attraction is. Oh, you were mistakenly referring to the asylum seekers as "illegals", I assumed you knew what you were talking about and were referring to the violent racists that were breaking the law. As for the rest of the misinformation you posted. Even GBNews would be embarrassed.not asylum seekers Johnny two bob economic migrants No, they were asylum seekers in the hotel that that violent racists attacked. Unless you have some evidence to suggest otherwise? The hotel was not attacked as far as I'm aware. Do you know it was? You are also ignoring the rent a mob, who I believe are antifa, that turned up and started fighting. Are you suggesting the violent racists weren't being violent? What is it that you want me to comment about the non-racists? Lets get some fact onto the table: What did those who became violent, do to express clearly they were racist? The other group, who arrived to counter protest, who was they counter protesting against exactly? And why did they arrive dressed in face masks and start fighting? Straight answers would be appreciated.
Why are you asking me?
It's all been widely reported, feel free to read up about what happened.
I'm asking you because it's you who is calling people racist. Why are you calling them racist, what did they do that was racist?
They participated in a racist protest. It's a fair bet.
I'll be completely honest, I'm lost on what point you've been trying to make.
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"Protests seem to be moving on to Canary Wharf now. Maybe the illegals weren’t happy in Epping. Are they all illegal, they didn't arrest them all did they? Why have they been let out already to participate in more race hate themed violence? That doesn't seem right. Right illegals are going to get arrested in the UK! You should do standup! One day you are lazing around in a tent in France and the next the UK taxpayer is putting you up at a £450 a night hotel in Canary Wharf that 99% of the UK population couldn’t afford. Difficult to understand what the attraction is. Oh, you were mistakenly referring to the asylum seekers as "illegals", I assumed you knew what you were talking about and were referring to the violent racists that were breaking the law. As for the rest of the misinformation you posted. Even GBNews would be embarrassed.not asylum seekers Johnny two bob economic migrants No, they were asylum seekers in the hotel that that violent racists attacked. Unless you have some evidence to suggest otherwise? The hotel was not attacked as far as I'm aware. Do you know it was? You are also ignoring the rent a mob, who I believe are antifa, that turned up and started fighting. Are you suggesting the violent racists weren't being violent? What is it that you want me to comment about the non-racists? Lets get some fact onto the table: What did those who became violent, do to express clearly they were racist? The other group, who arrived to counter protest, who was they counter protesting against exactly? And why did they arrive dressed in face masks and start fighting? Straight answers would be appreciated.
Why are you asking me?
It's all been widely reported, feel free to read up about what happened.
I'm asking you because it's you who is calling people racist. Why are you calling them racist, what did they do that was racist?
They participated in a racist protest. It's a fair bet.
I'll be completely honest, I'm lost on what point you've been trying to make.
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"Protests seem to be moving on to Canary Wharf now. Maybe the illegals weren’t happy in Epping. Are they all illegal, they didn't arrest them all did they? Why have they been let out already to participate in more race hate themed violence? That doesn't seem right. Right illegals are going to get arrested in the UK! You should do standup! One day you are lazing around in a tent in France and the next the UK taxpayer is putting you up at a £450 a night hotel in Canary Wharf that 99% of the UK population couldn’t afford. Difficult to understand what the attraction is. Oh, you were mistakenly referring to the asylum seekers as "illegals", I assumed you knew what you were talking about and were referring to the violent racists that were breaking the law. As for the rest of the misinformation you posted. Even GBNews would be embarrassed.not asylum seekers Johnny two bob economic migrants No, they were asylum seekers in the hotel that that violent racists attacked. Unless you have some evidence to suggest otherwise? The hotel was not attacked as far as I'm aware. Do you know it was? You are also ignoring the rent a mob, who I believe are antifa, that turned up and started fighting. Are you suggesting the violent racists weren't being violent? What is it that you want me to comment about the non-racists? Lets get some fact onto the table: What did those who became violent, do to express clearly they were racist? The other group, who arrived to counter protest, who was they counter protesting against exactly? And why did they arrive dressed in face masks and start fighting? Straight answers would be appreciated.
Why are you asking me?
It's all been widely reported, feel free to read up about what happened.
I'm asking you because it's you who is calling people racist. Why are you calling them racist, what did they do that was racist?
They participated in a racist protest. It's a fair bet.
I'll be completely honest, I'm lost on what point you've been trying to make.
There wasn't a racist process though! There was a protest about the use of a hotel to house undocumented asylum seekers in the town. The protest was sparked after an arrest of an asylum seeker who was charged with a sexual assault on a 14 year old.
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" Queer Starmer... Is that an appropriate slur to use? Especially on a forum on a swinging site? Certainly the situation with the Ukrainian “models” seems to have gone very quiet." He got them bound and gagged in basement of No 10. | |||
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"Protests seem to be moving on to Canary Wharf now. Maybe the illegals weren’t happy in Epping. Are they all illegal, they didn't arrest them all did they? Why have they been let out already to participate in more race hate themed violence? That doesn't seem right. Right illegals are going to get arrested in the UK! You should do standup! One day you are lazing around in a tent in France and the next the UK taxpayer is putting you up at a £450 a night hotel in Canary Wharf that 99% of the UK population couldn’t afford. Difficult to understand what the attraction is. Oh, you were mistakenly referring to the asylum seekers as "illegals", I assumed you knew what you were talking about and were referring to the violent racists that were breaking the law. As for the rest of the misinformation you posted. Even GBNews would be embarrassed.not asylum seekers Johnny two bob economic migrants No, they were asylum seekers in the hotel that that violent racists attacked. Unless you have some evidence to suggest otherwise? The hotel was not attacked as far as I'm aware. Do you know it was? You are also ignoring the rent a mob, who I believe are antifa, that turned up and started fighting. Are you suggesting the violent racists weren't being violent? What is it that you want me to comment about the non-racists? Lets get some fact onto the table: What did those who became violent, do to express clearly they were racist? The other group, who arrived to counter protest, who was they counter protesting against exactly? And why did they arrive dressed in face masks and start fighting? Straight answers would be appreciated.
Why are you asking me?
It's all been widely reported, feel free to read up about what happened.
I'm asking you because it's you who is calling people racist. Why are you calling them racist, what did they do that was racist?
They participated in a racist protest. It's a fair bet.
I'll be completely honest, I'm lost on what point you've been trying to make.
There wasn't a racist process though! There was a protest about the use of a hotel to house undocumented asylum seekers in the town. The protest was sparked after an arrest of an asylum seeker who was charged with a sexual assault on a 14 year old.
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"Protests seem to be moving on to Canary Wharf now. Maybe the illegals weren’t happy in Epping. Are they all illegal, they didn't arrest them all did they? Why have they been let out already to participate in more race hate themed violence? That doesn't seem right. Right illegals are going to get arrested in the UK! You should do standup! One day you are lazing around in a tent in France and the next the UK taxpayer is putting you up at a £450 a night hotel in Canary Wharf that 99% of the UK population couldn’t afford. Difficult to understand what the attraction is. Oh, you were mistakenly referring to the asylum seekers as "illegals", I assumed you knew what you were talking about and were referring to the violent racists that were breaking the law. As for the rest of the misinformation you posted. Even GBNews would be embarrassed.not asylum seekers Johnny two bob economic migrants No, they were asylum seekers in the hotel that that violent racists attacked. Unless you have some evidence to suggest otherwise? The hotel was not attacked as far as I'm aware. Do you know it was? You are also ignoring the rent a mob, who I believe are antifa, that turned up and started fighting. Are you suggesting the violent racists weren't being violent? What is it that you want me to comment about the non-racists? Lets get some fact onto the table: What did those who became violent, do to express clearly they were racist? The other group, who arrived to counter protest, who was they counter protesting against exactly? And why did they arrive dressed in face masks and start fighting? Straight answers would be appreciated.
Why are you asking me?
It's all been widely reported, feel free to read up about what happened.
I'm asking you because it's you who is calling people racist. Why are you calling them racist, what did they do that was racist?
They participated in a racist protest. It's a fair bet.
I'll be completely honest, I'm lost on what point you've been trying to make.
There wasn't a racist process though! There was a protest about the use of a hotel to house undocumented asylum seekers in the town. The protest was sparked after an arrest of an asylum seeker who was charged with a sexual assault on a 14 year old.
Well said the little far left lefties or as I personally prefer to call the “ near nonces”. Will attempt to shutdown debate by using buzz words like racist or Far Right. Queer Starmer uses this tactic all the time. "Attempting to suggest non-racists are nonces is up there with the weirdest shit I've seen on here. The homophobic slur isn't adding to your cause either. And final point, you used "buzz words" like "little far left lefties" & "near nonces" to shut down a debate while bemoaning people using buzzwords to shutdown debate. | |||
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Why are you asking me?
It's all been widely reported, feel free to read up about what happened.
I'm asking you because it's you who is calling people racist. Why are you calling them racist, what did they do that was racist?
They participated in a racist protest. It's a fair bet.
I'll be completely honest, I'm lost on what point you've been trying to make.
There wasn't a racist process though! There was a protest about the use of a hotel to house undocumented asylum seekers in the town. The protest was sparked after an arrest of an asylum seeker who was charged with a sexual assault on a 14 year old.
Well said the little far left lefties or as I personally prefer to call the “ near nonces”. Will attempt to shutdown debate by using buzz words like racist or Far Right. Queer Starmer uses this tactic all the time.
Attempting to suggest non-racists are nonces is up there with the weirdest shit I've seen on here.
The homophobic slur isn't adding to your cause either.
And final point, you used "buzz words" like "little far left lefties" & "near nonces" to shut down a debate while bemoaning people using buzzwords to shutdown debate. "No attempting the EHRC report of 2020 proved that. You should read it, it may offend you though x | |||
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"Protests seem to be moving on to Canary Wharf now. Maybe the illegals weren’t happy in Epping. Are they all illegal, they didn't arrest them all did they? Why have they been let out already to participate in more race hate themed violence? That doesn't seem right. Right illegals are going to get arrested in the UK! You should do standup! One day you are lazing around in a tent in France and the next the UK taxpayer is putting you up at a £450 a night hotel in Canary Wharf that 99% of the UK population couldn’t afford. Difficult to understand what the attraction is. Oh, you were mistakenly referring to the asylum seekers as "illegals", I assumed you knew what you were talking about and were referring to the violent racists that were breaking the law. As for the rest of the misinformation you posted. Even GBNews would be embarrassed.not asylum seekers Johnny two bob economic migrants No, they were asylum seekers in the hotel that that violent racists attacked. Unless you have some evidence to suggest otherwise? The hotel was not attacked as far as I'm aware. Do you know it was? You are also ignoring the rent a mob, who I believe are antifa, that turned up and started fighting. Are you suggesting the violent racists weren't being violent? What is it that you want me to comment about the non-racists? Lets get some fact onto the table: What did those who became violent, do to express clearly they were racist? The other group, who arrived to counter protest, who was they counter protesting against exactly? And why did they arrive dressed in face masks and start fighting? Straight answers would be appreciated.
Why are you asking me?
It's all been widely reported, feel free to read up about what happened.
I'm asking you because it's you who is calling people racist. Why are you calling them racist, what did they do that was racist?
They participated in a racist protest. It's a fair bet.
I'll be completely honest, I'm lost on what point you've been trying to make.
There wasn't a racist process though! There was a protest about the use of a hotel to house undocumented asylum seekers in the town. The protest was sparked after an arrest of an asylum seeker who was charged with a sexual assault on a 14 year old.
Well said the little far left lefties or as I personally prefer to call the “ near nonces”. Will attempt to shutdown debate by using buzz words like racist or Far Right. Queer Starmer uses this tactic all the time.
Attempting to suggest non-racists are nonces is up there with the weirdest shit I've seen on here.
The homophobic slur isn't adding to your cause either.
And final point, you used "buzz words" like "little far left lefties" & "near nonces" to shut down a debate while bemoaning people using buzzwords to shutdown debate.
No attempting the EHRC report of 2020 proved that. You should read it, it may offend you though x"Just to be clear, you're claiming that the EHRC report of 2020 proved that non-racists are nonces? Do tell us more. | |||
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"Protests seem to be moving on to Canary Wharf now. Maybe the illegals weren’t happy in Epping. Are they all illegal, they didn't arrest them all did they? Why have they been let out already to participate in more race hate themed violence? That doesn't seem right. Right illegals are going to get arrested in the UK! You should do standup! One day you are lazing around in a tent in France and the next the UK taxpayer is putting you up at a £450 a night hotel in Canary Wharf that 99% of the UK population couldn’t afford. Difficult to understand what the attraction is. Oh, you were mistakenly referring to the asylum seekers as "illegals", I assumed you knew what you were talking about and were referring to the violent racists that were breaking the law. As for the rest of the misinformation you posted. Even GBNews would be embarrassed.not asylum seekers Johnny two bob economic migrants No, they were asylum seekers in the hotel that that violent racists attacked. Unless you have some evidence to suggest otherwise?No one attacked the hotel,they were stood across the road with a line of police across the entrance to the hotel,I watched the live stream,and you can call them asylum seekers if you like but they are economic migrants,I know that dosent fit your narrative but hey ho you have been wrong about so many things on the forums over the years anything you say is not to be belived" Economic migrants don't arrive by irregular means. Can you please explain why you think they are economic migrants? | |||
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"Protests seem to be moving on to Canary Wharf now. Maybe the illegals weren’t happy in Epping. Are they all illegal, they didn't arrest them all did they? Why have they been let out already to participate in more race hate themed violence? That doesn't seem right. Right illegals are going to get arrested in the UK! You should do standup! One day you are lazing around in a tent in France and the next the UK taxpayer is putting you up at a £450 a night hotel in Canary Wharf that 99% of the UK population couldn’t afford. Difficult to understand what the attraction is. Oh, you were mistakenly referring to the asylum seekers as "illegals", I assumed you knew what you were talking about and were referring to the violent racists that were breaking the law. As for the rest of the misinformation you posted. Even GBNews would be embarrassed.not asylum seekers Johnny two bob economic migrants No, they were asylum seekers in the hotel that that violent racists attacked. Unless you have some evidence to suggest otherwise? The hotel was not attacked as far as I'm aware. Do you know it was? You are also ignoring the rent a mob, who I believe are antifa, that turned up and started fighting. Are you suggesting the violent racists weren't being violent? What is it that you want me to comment about the non-racists? Lets get some fact onto the table: What did those who became violent, do to express clearly they were racist? The other group, who arrived to counter protest, who was they counter protesting against exactly? And why did they arrive dressed in face masks and start fighting? Straight answers would be appreciated.
Why are you asking me?
It's all been widely reported, feel free to read up about what happened.
I'm asking you because it's you who is calling people racist. Why are you calling them racist, what did they do that was racist? "As somebody who is very left wing, I can explain this to an extent. We believe that protesting is a good thing, unless the protestors are what we, the left wing, perceive as right wing types, then those protestors are always racist agitators. We also believe that if a woman is sexually assaulted by someone with darker skin, it's far more important to accuse those who dislike this kind of thing of being racists than it is to give any kind of support for the victim. Hope this helps | |||
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