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"Wes Streeting as pledged that every baby will have their DNA mapped under an NHS plan to predict and prevent disease. Or is it a DNA database by stealth to track every citizen?" Might cut crime if you leave DNA on site they will have you. | |||
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"Wes Streeting as pledged that every baby will have their DNA mapped under an NHS plan to predict and prevent disease. Or is it a DNA database by stealth to track every citizen? Might cut crime if you leave DNA on site they will have you. " But DNA isn't reliable enough as it can also be planted so it's circumstantial | |||
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"Wes Streeting as pledged that every baby will have their DNA mapped under an NHS plan to predict and prevent disease. Or is it a DNA database by stealth to track every citizen?" You can’t track someone just by having their DNA, it’s not a transponder. There are arguments for having everyone’s DNA on file from a criminal justice point of view, but as has been said, DNA can be planted. I’m sure the civil liberties groups will have something to say about it | |||
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"Yet men still think it's a good idea to send used condoms to strangers on the net 🤷♀️" Men are stupid 🤣 | |||
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"Wes Streeting as pledged that every baby will have their DNA mapped under an NHS plan to predict and prevent disease. Or is it a DNA database by stealth to track every citizen? Might cut crime if you leave DNA on site they will have you. " You could see it that way. But it means you can be traced through your own DNA or that of a close relative. Fine if used for tracking criminals, but what if it's (mis)used for other purposes? | |||
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"Wes Streeting as pledged that every baby will have their DNA mapped under an NHS plan to predict and prevent disease. Or is it a DNA database by stealth to track every citizen?" The parents will have a choice to accept this service or not, it will not be compulsory. | |||
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"Wes Streeting as pledged that every baby will have their DNA mapped under an NHS plan to predict and prevent disease. Or is it a DNA database by stealth to track every citizen? The parents will have a choice to accept this service or not, it will not be compulsory." Parents will have no way of knowing if their wishes have been respected or not tho. | |||
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"Wes Streeting as pledged that every baby will have their DNA mapped under an NHS plan to predict and prevent disease. Or is it a DNA database by stealth to track every citizen?" Your mobile phone does this | |||
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"What currently happens to the placenta if you don't ask to take it home?" McDonald's sausages 🤮 | |||
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"What currently happens to the placenta if you don't ask to take it home?" They serve it in the staff canteen. Meat and Placenta pie 🥧  | |||
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"What currently happens to the placenta if you don't ask to take it home? McDonald's sausages 🤮" Nice. Do they come with fries and a drink ? | |||
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"What currently happens to the placenta if you don't ask to take it home? They serve it in the staff canteen. Meat and Placenta pie 🥧 "It saves the NHS money I suppose | |||
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"What currently happens to the placenta if you don't ask to take it home?" Don't posh people have theirs fried and served with a nice Chianti and some fava beans? | |||
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"What currently happens to the placenta if you don't ask to take it home? Don't posh people have theirs fried and served with a nice Chianti and some fava beans?" I think the earth mothers do that and serve it with home made wine. I just wondered if DNA could be retrieved from a placenta and if so was it. | |||
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"What currently happens to the placenta if you don't ask to take it home?" They get incinerated I do like some of the other suggestions though 😁 | |||
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"What currently happens to the placenta if you don't ask to take it home? They get incinerated I do like some of the other suggestions though 😁" Thanks. I like some of the other suggestions but I'm never going to McDonald's again  | |||
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"How does DNA know that its particular make up hasn't been used before? This is a puzzle which almost runs the risk of me believing in God." It doesn't. Evolution has helped to ensure that our physical selves will reproduce, coupled with random mutations that add new potential for the species. There's no certainty, nor intelligence driving anything but reproduction and survival of the fittest. 99.5% of human DNA is shared by all of us - we are all that similar. But the minority that is different, still gives us a near infinitely different range of possibilities. You could calculate it with a powerful calculator or just accept that it's a near infinite range | |||
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"On its own it sounds useful. But, with it being announced at the same time as the vote on new euthanasia laws and a pending cut in disability benefits, I can't help wondering what sort of slippery slope we're heading down. 🤔 " DNA mapping of the population is probably inevitable, but not sure it's a good thing. It means we can be screened for disease (a good thing) but likewise profiled for insurance costs, pensions, criminality etc. Moreover, anybody can be traced from a match with a close relative. Do the benefits outweigh the disclosure of personal information? | |||
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"On its own it sounds useful. But, with it being announced at the same time as the vote on new euthanasia laws and a pending cut in disability benefits, I can't help wondering what sort of slippery slope we're heading down. 🤔 DNA mapping of the population is probably inevitable, but not sure it's a good thing. It means we can be screened for disease (a good thing) but likewise profiled for insurance costs, pensions, criminality etc. Moreover, anybody can be traced from a match with a close relative. Do the benefits outweigh the disclosure of personal information?" over the last 40 years, we're so far down the slippery slope of social profiling by the government, that it's a tad late to worrying about it now. | |||
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"DNA mapping of the population is probably inevitable, but not sure it's a good thing. It means we can be screened for disease (a good thing) but likewise profiled for insurance costs, pensions, criminality etc. Moreover, anybody can be traced from a match with a close relative. Do the benefits outweigh the disclosure of personal information?" On the surface it sounds useful, but it's only a few steps way from DNA testing on unborn children and euthanasia beyond the scope of the currently proposed '6 months left to live' restrictions. In other parts of the world, people can opt for assisted dying for long term conditions where survival is entirely possible, albeit with a horrible life. The proposed cuts to disability benefits, and the subtle change from Labour being the party of the 'working class' to being the party for 'working people' also adds an element of suspicion. I'm not really one for conspiracy theories, but I do question how many steps closer we are to a potential eugenics scenario. 🤔 | |||
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"This could actually be a massive advantage for the UK. A DNA database that can be mapped to medical history will be a massively powerful tool for medical companies. If it's run under the OpenSAFELY system, it could generate incredible insights into which medicines work and why, as well as bringing in a huge amount of income for the UK." So, you’re saying everyone in the UK should be forced to hand over their DNA to (mostly) American companies to find cures they will offer only to the rich? Do you realise many of those companies are trying to patent the medicines connected to dna, and that they claim ownership of it? If we want medicine to be funded publicly, and to benefit the public, then it must be run and owned by the public. Personalised medicine simply means all drugs and treatments will be tied to your dna. Which will be copywrited or patented by the large pharama’s. There will be no generic drugs. I for one refuse to let these scum bag companies any where near my data and have done everything in my power to prevent them accessing my medical file. Personally I want all my medical data removed from all NHS and government databases and given to me. the individual should be the owner of their data, not the state. | |||
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"This could actually be a massive advantage for the UK. A DNA database that can be mapped to medical history will be a massively powerful tool for medical companies. If it's run under the OpenSAFELY system, it could generate incredible insights into which medicines work and why, as well as bringing in a huge amount of income for the UK." "So, you’re saying everyone in the UK should be forced to hand over their DNA to (mostly) American companies to find cures they will offer only to the rich? Do you realise many of those companies are trying to patent the medicines connected to dna, and that they claim ownership of it? If we want medicine to be funded publicly, and to benefit the public, then it must be run and owned by the public. Personalised medicine simply means all drugs and treatments will be tied to your dna. Which will be copywrited or patented by the large pharama’s. There will be no generic drugs. I for one refuse to let these scum bag companies any where near my data and have done everything in my power to prevent them accessing my medical file. Personally I want all my medical data removed from all NHS and government databases and given to me. the individual should be the owner of their data, not the state." There's no point in you commenting if you don't know what you're talking about. The OpenSAFELY system means that companies get to query the data, but they don't get access to the data. No company can use OpenSAFELY to create personalised medicine, because they won't have access to any specific person's data. If it's run in this way the companies can't patent your DNA, because they won't have it. But companies will be able to run anonymous queries in the massive data set and will be able to find correlations that aren't obvious from looking at individual cases. This will lead to generic fixes for common problems | |||
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