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Starmer Announces National Grooming Gang Inquiry

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By *eoBlooms OP   Man
7 weeks ago

Springfield

Sounds like Louise Casey's initial report will be pretty strong stuff so well done to the PM for changing his mind on this.👏

Do you think an Inquiry will finally bring justice to the many victims of this henious crime, or will it be a waste of time and money?

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By *otMe66Man
7 weeks ago

Terra Firma

He has done the right thing at last. Phillips, Cooper and Rayner should apologise for their resistance for a national inquiry.

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By *uddy laneMan
7 weeks ago

dudley


"Sounds like Louise Casey's initial report will be pretty strong stuff so well done to the PM for changing his mind on this.👏

Do you think an Inquiry will finally bring justice to the many victims of this henious crime, or will it be a waste of time and money?"

If it brings criminal charges to every person who knew of these crimes being committed and they did not speak up, then yes I think the majority of the uk public would see that justice had be served to the guilty, also all their final salary pension contributions while holding office of social or child care being removed for dereliction of duty.

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By *ostindreamsMan
7 weeks ago

London

I think the Casey report is going to be quite damning. It would be interesting what the politicians have to say when it's published.

I would prefer all the councillors, police chiefs who were working in these councils to lose their jobs if they are still working. They must be named and shamed.

All the police officers should be made to take courses to handle these types of situations.

Also I hope that the football players do some gesture like they did with taking the knee when someone in the US was killed. This is a much bigger issue that's closer to home.

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By *he Flat CapsCouple
7 weeks ago

Pontypool


"I think the Casey report is going to be quite damning. It would be interesting what the politicians have to say when it's published.

I would prefer all the councillors, police chiefs who were working in these councils to lose their jobs if they are still working. They must be named and shamed.

All the police officers should be made to take courses to handle these types of situations.

"

Let's not forget the headteachers, the CAMHS staff, social workers, GP's....

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By *andS66Couple
6 weeks ago

Derby


"Sounds like Louise Casey's initial report will be pretty strong stuff so well done to the PM for changing his mind on this.👏

Do you think an Inquiry will finally bring justice to the many victims of this henious crime, or will it be a waste of time and money?"

Well done to the PM?

Just a few months ago he was saying that the things that Casey has said, and calling for a national enquiry, is "far right".

I hope that the enquiry does bring justice.... but if it does, they'd better build another super-prison quickly - and that's just for the police, politicians, councillors, social workers, etc who knew and were complicit.

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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man
6 weeks ago

BRIDPORT

It’s not so much what the inquiry concludes as the government’s response too it.

An enquiry that is not responded too appropriately is a waste of time and money.

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By *uffelskloofMan
6 weeks ago

Walsall

Seems like typical Labour. Nobody knows what they stand for and their policies change on a daily basis with the wind direction.

Starmer and the people around him are just extremely weak people with very little in the way of a vision, a moral compass or any guiding principles.

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By *estivalMan
6 weeks ago

borehamwood

Looks like Farage is influencing starmer again,don't the bloke have any ideas of his own

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By *2000ManMan
6 weeks ago

Worthing

Expect things to be uncovered which will be hidden again.

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By *idnight RamblerMan
6 weeks ago

Pershore

What a waste of time and money. It be years of enriching KCs and lawyers to conclude that PC1234 Harris (now retired) is entirely to blame. The local and national politicians, social services, senior police officers will all be exonerated. The truth is, we all know the underlying cause - it's the rancid, decomposing elephant in the room nobody dare mention.

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By *otMe66Man
6 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"What a waste of time and money. It be years of enriching KCs and lawyers to conclude that PC1234 Harris (now retired) is entirely to blame. The local and national politicians, social services, senior police officers will all be exonerated. The truth is, we all know the underlying cause - it's the rancid, decomposing elephant in the room nobody dare mention."

I would hope the inquiry will show clearly what and how communication broke down between agencies, processes between agencies, where the actual blockers where, who the blockers were and why they blocked.

From a position of clarity across all forces and agencies it should become clear what needs to be implemented for all to follow at a national level and not have individual areas doing individual things that could allow this to happen again.

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By *idnight RamblerMan
6 weeks ago

Pershore


"What a waste of time and money. It be years of enriching KCs and lawyers to conclude that PC1234 Harris (now retired) is entirely to blame. The local and national politicians, social services, senior police officers will all be exonerated. The truth is, we all know the underlying cause - it's the rancid, decomposing elephant in the room nobody dare mention.

I would hope the inquiry will show clearly what and how communication broke down between agencies, processes between agencies, where the actual blockers where, who the blockers were and why they blocked.

From a position of clarity across all forces and agencies it should become clear what needs to be implemented for all to follow at a national level and not have individual areas doing individual things that could allow this to happen again. "

We know most of that already - especially why prosecutions were not actively pursued. There are reports dating back to 2014 that clearly give the reasons. This is just a bandwagon in 2025.

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By *deepdiveMan
6 weeks ago

manchester


"Seems like typical Labour. Nobody knows what they stand for and their policies change on a daily basis with the wind direction.

Starmer and the people around him are just extremely weak people with very little in the way of a vision, a moral compass or any guiding principles."

Dammed if they do and dammed if they don't

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By (user no longer on site)
6 weeks ago


"Sounds like Louise Casey's initial report will be pretty strong stuff so well done to the PM for changing his mind on this.👏

Do you think an Inquiry will finally bring justice to the many victims of this henious crime, or will it be a waste of time and money?"

I really hope so, but I doubt it. I'm not a fan of Labour (well not for the past few years!) and I would never vote for Reform, however, they are the ones who have shamed him into doing it. So because of that, I have very little faith. It's so disgusting to think about the scandal and the reason why it wasn't dealt with sooner. Those girls and others who have suffered like this deserve justice and I do hope that this gives them some sort of peace.

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By *estivalMan
6 weeks ago

borehamwood


"Seems like typical Labour. Nobody knows what they stand for and their policies change on a daily basis with the wind direction.

Starmer and the people around him are just extremely weak people with very little in the way of a vision, a moral compass or any guiding principles.

Dammed if they do and dammed if they don't "
that's the problem though for the last few months anyone who brought up the subject about a national inquiry was accused of trotting out far right dog whistle,so does this meen starmer and Co are now using far right dog whistles,wonder what mess philips has to say as she was the loudest claiming there was no need for a national inquiry

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By *estivalMan
6 weeks ago

borehamwood


"What a waste of time and money. It be years of enriching KCs and lawyers to conclude that PC1234 Harris (now retired) is entirely to blame. The local and national politicians, social services, senior police officers will all be exonerated. The truth is, we all know the underlying cause - it's the rancid, decomposing elephant in the room nobody dare mention.

I would hope the inquiry will show clearly what and how communication broke down between agencies, processes between agencies, where the actual blockers where, who the blockers were and why they blocked.

From a position of clarity across all forces and agencies it should become clear what needs to be implemented for all to follow at a national level and not have individual areas doing individual things that could allow this to happen again. "
nothing broke down between agencies they purposely turned a blind eye for two reasons they were more concerned about not upsetting a certain community and they looked at the girls involved as not worth giving a shit about,they can dress it up how they want in the report but that's the bottom line

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By *otMe66Man
6 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"What a waste of time and money. It be years of enriching KCs and lawyers to conclude that PC1234 Harris (now retired) is entirely to blame. The local and national politicians, social services, senior police officers will all be exonerated. The truth is, we all know the underlying cause - it's the rancid, decomposing elephant in the room nobody dare mention.

I would hope the inquiry will show clearly what and how communication broke down between agencies, processes between agencies, where the actual blockers where, who the blockers were and why they blocked.

From a position of clarity across all forces and agencies it should become clear what needs to be implemented for all to follow at a national level and not have individual areas doing individual things that could allow this to happen again.

We know most of that already - especially why prosecutions were not actively pursued. There are reports dating back to 2014 that clearly give the reasons. This is just a bandwagon in 2025."

We don't know this on a national level. We know what happened in Rotherham, Rochdale and Telford, from a very local point of view. I would expect a national inquiry to cover much further and take away the local influences too. The output of the national inquiry would be too introduce nationwide policies and protocols.

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By *ostindreamsMan
6 weeks ago

London

It's interesting that the Jay report published in 2022 noted that ethnicity/nationality wasn't recorded in most cases, but white British men committed majority of grooming crimes amongst the ones where ethnicity was recorded. We had the left latching on to that and saying how grooming gangs were predominantly white British.

With the Casey report, they went out of their way to get details about the criminals where the ethnicity/nationality wasn't recorded and found out that most of them were from a different background. It almost feels like there was a deliberate attempt to cover up these details.

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By *arakiss12TV/TS
6 weeks ago

Bedfuck

Waste of time unfortunately for the victims. 25 years too late.

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By *uddy laneMan
6 weeks ago

dudley


"Waste of time unfortunately for the victims. 25 years too late."

Mr robinson and Mr Griffin called for a national inquiry like 20 odd years ago unfortunately for the victims the state stuck its head in the sand.

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By *penMindedMaleMan
6 weeks ago

Midlands

Funnily enough I wrote an essay on an incredibly similar subject recently, after forensically researching the background of Starmer, Phillips and Farage when it comes to tackling CSE, an area I have extensive history of working in.

I'll copy and paste it below for those interested, but I started the research open minded.

Farage isn't the good guy here. Not by any means.

Fewer MPs have done as much as Starmer and Phillips, both in terms of social policy reform to protect victims and in terms of actual meaningful support (who btw I did not vote for Starmer, and do not support in any way whatsoever, my politics is very different to his in many ways.)

A Critical Analysis of Victim Advocacy in British Politics: The Divergent Approaches of Starmer, Phillips, and Farage.

In the landscape of contemporary British politics, the issue of victim advocacy, particularly concerning Child Sexual Exploitation (CSE), has become a potent area of focus. The approaches to this sensitive issue, however, vary dramatically, reflecting fundamentally different political ideologies and theories of change. This essay will critically analyse the distinct contributions of three prominent public figures: Keir Starmer, Jess Phillips, and Nigel Farage. It will be argued that while Starmer’s tenure as Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) exemplifies a strategy of systemic, internal reform within the legal establishment, and Phillips’s career represents a trajectory from grassroots, service-oriented activism to parliamentary advocacy, Farage’s engagement illustrates a populist, discourse-driven approach that remains detached from the professional and policy frameworks dedicated to victim support. A comparative analysis of these three figures reveals not only their individual priorities but also broader trends in how victimhood is constructed and utilised within modern political discourse.

Keir Starmer: Systemic Reform within the Legal Framework

Keir Starmer’s leadership of the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) between 2008 and 2013 coincided with a period of intense scrutiny of the institutional response to CSE. His approach can be characterised as one of top-down, systemic reform aimed at correcting entrenched failures within the criminal justice system. A central pillar of this reform was a deliberate doctrinal shift in prosecutorial guidance. The 2013 revised CPS guidelines on child sexual abuse were instrumental in moving the locus of assessment from the perceived credibility of the victim to the objective credibility of the allegation. This was a crucial intervention designed to counteract the systemic biases that often disadvantage young or traumatised witnesses, whose testimonies may present with inconsistencies not as a result of fabrication, but as a symptom of psychological trauma. This reform represented a significant evolution in legal practice, acknowledging the complex interplay between trauma and testimony.

Furthermore, Starmer's response to the manifest failings in the Rochdale grooming cases demonstrated a strategy of accountability and internal restructuring. His public admission of institutional failure, coupled with the appointment of Nazir Afzal as Chief Crown Prosecutor for the North West, who subsequently secured the landmark convictions, served a dual purpose. It acted as a necessary concession to public and political pressure while simultaneously driving internal change. The establishment of the Child Sexual Abuse Review Panel in 2013 further solidified this approach, creating a mechanism for historical case review and institutional learning. Analysis of CPS data from this period lends quantitative support to the efficacy of these reforms; both the raw number of child abuse prosecutions and the conviction rates saw a discernible increase during Starmer’s directorship, suggesting that the systemic changes were having a tangible effect on prosecutorial outcomes.

Jess Phillips: From Grassroots Activism to Parliamentary Influence

Jess Phillips’s engagement with victim support offers a contrasting model, one rooted in grassroots service provision and direct, frontline experience. Prior to her political career, her role managing domestic abuse refuges for Women's Aid provided her with a profound, experiential understanding of the lived realities of victims of sexual and domestic violence. This perspective, grounded not in legal theory but in the practicalities of support services, informed her subsequent political advocacy. Her appointment as Birmingham’s inaugural Victims' Champion in 2012 marked the transition of this expertise from a purely operational sphere to a municipal policy-influencing role, where she lobbied criminal justice agencies on behalf of victims.

Since entering Parliament in 2015, Phillips has effectively translated this grassroots credibility into a powerful political platform. She has consistently centred the victim's narrative in parliamentary discourse, most notably through her annual reading of the names of women killed by men in the UK. This act serves as a poignant political intervention, re-humanising statistics and challenging the abstraction of policy debate. Her recent appointment as Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Safeguarding and Violence Against Women and Girls completes her trajectory from an external critic and service provider to an internal government policymaker. Her approach, therefore, embodies the fusion of direct, experiential knowledge with the mechanisms of political power, arguing implicitly that effective policy must be informed by the realities of those it purports to serve.

Nigel Farage: Populist Rhetoric and the Politics of Grievance

Nigel Farage’s contribution to the discourse on victimhood and CSE stands in stark opposition to the models presented by Starmer and Phillips. His professional background as a commodity trader is devoid of any direct involvement in the legal, policy, or third-sector frameworks of victim support. His engagement is almost exclusively rhetorical and has become more pronounced in his post-Brexit political career. Farage has focused on the issue of "grooming gangs," framing the problem predominantly through a cultural and nationalist lens. This approach selectively engages with one facet of CSE, often mobilising it to support a wider political argument about immigration and cultural incompatibility, rather than addressing the multifaceted nature of child abuse.

This rhetorical strategy diverges fundamentally from the policy-driven work of Starmer and the service-oriented advocacy of Phillips. Whereas their work aims to improve material conditions and legal protections for victims, Farage’s discourse operates primarily in the symbolic realm of political grievance. His focus is less on the victim as an individual requiring support and more on the crime as a symbol of national decline or cultural threat. Critically, this is not accompanied by any discernible policy proposals or professional engagement aimed at enhancing victim services or reforming the justice system. Indeed, his pejorative use of the term "victim class" in other contexts suggests a deep-seated ideological opposition to the very frameworks of support and recognition that Starmer and Phillips have worked to build.

Conclusion

In conclusion, the approaches of Keir Starmer, Jess Phillips, and Nigel Farage to victim advocacy represent three distinct and ideologically divergent models of political engagement. Starmer’s work at the CPS was that of the institutional reformer, meticulously altering the legal and procedural architecture from within to achieve better justice outcomes. Phillips exemplifies the advocate whose authority is derived from lived experience and grassroots service, which she has successfully leveraged to influence national policy. Farage, in contrast, represents a populist model, where the issue of victimhood is appropriated as a powerful rhetorical tool in a wider culture war, detached from the professional and practical realities of victim support. The comparison illuminates a crucial distinction in modern politics: the difference between engaging with an issue to effect substantive change and employing an issue as a means of mobilising a political base. Ultimately, the work of Starmer and Phillips, though different in method, shares a common goal of systemic improvement, whereas Farage’s contribution remains firmly in the realm of political discourse, with little demonstrable impact on the victims he purports to defend.

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By *rDiscretionXXXMan
6 weeks ago

Gilfach


"Ultimately, the work of Starmer and Phillips, though different in method, shares a common goal of systemic improvement, whereas Farage’s contribution remains firmly in the realm of political discourse, with little demonstrable impact on the victims he purports to defend."

Shocker! Man leading a party with just 5 MPs is unable to get things through parliament.

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By *bro24Man
6 weeks ago

Middlesbrough

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By *bro24Man
6 weeks ago

Middlesbrough

We all know who's doing it and always has been

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By *penMindedMaleMan
6 weeks ago

Midlands

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By *penMindedMaleMan
6 weeks ago

Midlands


"Ultimately, the work of Starmer and Phillips, though different in method, shares a common goal of systemic improvement, whereas Farage’s contribution remains firmly in the realm of political discourse, with little demonstrable impact on the victims he purports to defend.

Shocker! Man leading a party with just 5 MPs is unable to get things through parliament."

During my study I found much of the influence either Starmer, Phillips or Farage had was in fact through their professional careers and personal endeavours, instead of through political gain.

In particular, Jess Phillips has gone above and beyond to support actual victims. A case study as part of the work included details which I won't fully explain, but victims name her as being responsible for their perpetrators being held to account and ensuring prosecution.

However, Farage on the other hand is a very difficult proposition. He doesn't work with any charities, hold a caseload as an MP, all his previous work entails trading of metals, commodities, real estate, media work through GB news and also financial contributions from foreign states and Aaron Banks. Also, he has received significant sums recently as an advocate and advisor to "Nomad Capitalist", an Israeli company which advises global clients on how to migrate to the UK and exploit tax loopholes. There isn't much work on public record nor through anecdotal evidence other than his promotion of Stephen Yaxley Lennon, up until around 2012 when they went separate ways following a legal dispute.

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By *uffelskloofMan
6 weeks ago

Walsall


"Ultimately, the work of Starmer and Phillips, though different in method, shares a common goal of systemic improvement, whereas Farage’s contribution remains firmly in the realm of political discourse, with little demonstrable impact on the victims he purports to defend.

Shocker! Man leading a party with just 5 MPs is unable to get things through parliament.

During my study I found much of the influence either Starmer, Phillips or Farage had was in fact through their professional careers and personal endeavours, instead of through political gain.

In particular, Jess Phillips has gone above and beyond to support actual victims. A case study as part of the work included details which I won't fully explain, but victims name her as being responsible for their perpetrators being held to account and ensuring prosecution.

However, Farage on the other hand is a very difficult proposition. He doesn't work with any charities, hold a caseload as an MP, all his previous work entails trading of metals, commodities, real estate, media work through GB news and also financial contributions from foreign states and Aaron Banks. Also, he has received significant sums recently as an advocate and advisor to "Nomad Capitalist", an Israeli company which advises global clients on how to migrate to the UK and exploit tax loopholes. There isn't much work on public record nor through anecdotal evidence other than his promotion of Stephen Yaxley Lennon, up until around 2012 when they went separate ways following a legal dispute.

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Nomad Capitalist Limited is incorporated in Hong Kong. It isn’t an Israeli company.

It’s a successful business that helps high net worth individuals relocate and manage their tax affairs and has no particular focus on moving clients to the UK. It’s difficult to know why anyone would be moving to the UK to avoid tax given the current UK government.

The only payment Farage has received from the business is for a speaking engagement in 2024 which was fairly paltry stuff given Farage’s overall income.

Are you sure your research on this topic was quite as forensic as you suggest?

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By *rDiscretionXXXMan
6 weeks ago

Gilfach


"Ultimately, the work of Starmer and Phillips, though different in method, shares a common goal of systemic improvement, whereas Farage’s contribution remains firmly in the realm of political discourse, with little demonstrable impact on the victims he purports to defend."


"Shocker! Man leading a party with just 5 MPs is unable to get things through parliament."


"During my study I found much of the influence either Starmer, Phillips or Farage had was in fact through their professional careers and personal endeavours, instead of through political gain.

In particular, Jess Phillips has gone above and beyond to support actual victims. A case study as part of the work included details which I won't fully explain, but victims name her as being responsible for their perpetrators being held to account and ensuring prosecution.

However, Farage on the other hand is a very difficult proposition. He doesn't work with any charities, hold a caseload as an MP, all his previous work entails trading of metals, commodities, real estate, media work through GB news and also financial contributions from foreign states and Aaron Banks. Also, he has received significant sums recently as an advocate and advisor to "Nomad Capitalist", an Israeli company which advises global clients on how to migrate to the UK and exploit tax loopholes. There isn't much work on public record nor through anecdotal evidence other than his promotion of Stephen Yaxley Lennon, up until around 2012 when they went separate ways following a legal dispute."

So your argument against Farage isn't that he fails to help victims, it's that he's a capitalist with ties to Israel. Are you sure that your analysis was taken from a neutral viewpoint?

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By *uffolkcouple-bi onlyCouple
6 weeks ago

Between Sudbury n Haverhill

Casey report stating that police avoided cases for fear of being branded racist?

I’ve not read the report, just seen this in the news. Not surprised, institutions seem to go to great lengths to not upset certain groups while riding rough-shot over others.

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By *ornucopiaMan
6 weeks ago

Bexley


"Waste of time unfortunately for the victims. 25 years too late."

What makes anyone think it is about the victims.

Surely it's about getting votes from the I told you so lobby?

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By *4bimMan
6 weeks ago

Farnborough Hampshire

to me this is tragic.

i say this because we as a nation tend too mostly welcome people from other countries to live and work with us.

i do think people take advantage of us brits because we are seen as weak and the police powerless through fear of being called racist.

but its not always people from other countries that harm chidren the biggest was of course jimmy savile and look how he got all the powerful figures in society on side to defend him.

when i see the length of punishment people get for being in grooming gangs, making child porn images ect compared to the long sentences people get for having an opinion online or protesting outside a hotel for instance i worry that the types of people who attack children do not see it as a risk in getting caught.

look at the sentence edwards of the bbc got for instance, compared to immigration protestors and i see a real problem in the protection of children in this country.

im sorry but my view with offend many and upset some but for me the only deterrent is the death penalty for sexual crimes against children. and i dont mean years waiting to die. kill them immediately if they evidence is overwhelming.

animals only know fear. and we put sick animals down

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By *uddy laneMan
4 weeks ago

dudley

It looks like greater Manchester police are leading the charge with over a 1000 grooming gang suspects, I have to say I am not surprised at that figure, i just hope we do have an inquiry ASAP with custodial sentences for everyone who kept quiet.

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By *enisorousMan
4 weeks ago

sunderland


"to me this is tragic.

i say this because we as a nation tend too mostly welcome people from other countries to live and work with us.

i do think people take advantage of us brits because we are seen as weak and the police powerless through fear of being called racist.

but its not always people from other countries that harm chidren the biggest was of course jimmy savile and look how he got all the powerful figures in society on side to defend him.

when i see the length of punishment people get for being in grooming gangs, making child porn images ect compared to the long sentences people get for having an opinion online or protesting outside a hotel for instance i worry that the types of people who attack children do not see it as a risk in getting caught.

look at the sentence edwards of the bbc got for instance, compared to immigration protestors and i see a real problem in the protection of children in this country.

im sorry but my view with offend many and upset some but for me the only deterrent is the death penalty for sexual crimes against children. and i dont mean years waiting to die. kill them immediately if they evidence is overwhelming.

animals only know fear. and we put sick animals down

"

Well said..i totally agree

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By *igtool4uMan
4 weeks ago

Cardiff


"Sounds like Louise Casey's initial report will be pretty strong stuff so well done to the PM for changing his mind on this.👏

Do you think an Inquiry will finally bring justice to the many victims of this henious crime, or will it be a waste of time and money?

Well done to the PM?

Just a few months ago he was saying that the things that Casey has said, and calling for a national enquiry, is "far right".

I hope that the enquiry does bring justice.... but if it does, they'd better build another super-prison quickly - and that's just for the police, politicians, councillors, social workers, etc who knew and were complicit."

Not what happened.

He said we'll look into it, put Casey on the case.

It's also right that he doesn't jump on every right wing bigots on-line theory

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