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"If you voted Labour in the general election, are you getting what you thought you were voting for? " That and much more Thank God we have a responsible government leading the country which had already given us:- Lower taxes Less unemployment More housing More green energy Less illegal immigrants Lower inflation Better education Higher wages A more responsive and better equipped NHS What a difference to the last 14 years! All figures taken from the ONS | |||
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"If you voted Labour in the general election, are you getting what you thought you were voting for? That and much more Thank God we have a responsible government leading the country which had already given us:- Lower taxes Less unemployment More housing More green energy Less illegal immigrants Lower inflation Better education Higher wages A more responsive and better equipped NHS What a difference to the last 14 years! All figures taken from the ONS" Can you give us all specific examples of these things please. Actual decisions and implementation of policy that has achieved the things you claim. | |||
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"If you voted Labour in the general election, are you getting what you thought you were voting for? That and much more Thank God we have a responsible government leading the country which had already given us:- Lower taxes Less unemployment More housing More green energy Less illegal immigrants Lower inflation Better education Higher wages A more responsive and better equipped NHS What a difference to the last 14 years! All figures taken from the ONS Can you give us all specific examples of these things please. Actual decisions and implementation of policy that has achieved the things you claim. " All figures have been provided by the ONS and are simple to find if you bother looking. I don't want to be rude, but as a previous poster said to me - it is surely up to you to disprove what I have said as the figures are correct and the source is the ONS. Without holding your hand and going through each item one by one (which I haven't the time or inclination to do), I cannot help you any further. | |||
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"If you voted Labour in the general election, are you getting what you thought you were voting for? " Far too early in the electoral cycle for anyone to make a proper assessment, and that's the same for any party taking over after they've been the opposition for the time Labour were.. They did however get a majority which the Tories failed to do in 2010 so they haven't had to firm a coalition.. Said well before the last election they all get things wrong and they all make mistakes, every government has and will do.. Also said two cheeks same arse.. 
Might an additional question be to Tory supporters ' how did you think they did in the 14 years they were in power'?
But getting a subjective honest appraisal seems to be rare across the board as we are herded into tribes who seem more inclined to shout at each other than recognise all government face problems and events which affect their best intentioned plans and policies..
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"If you voted Labour in the general election, are you getting what you thought you were voting for? That and much more Thank God we have a responsible government leading the country which had already given us:- Lower taxes Less unemployment More housing More green energy Less illegal immigrants Lower inflation Better education Higher wages A more responsive and better equipped NHS What a difference to the last 14 years! All figures taken from the ONS Can you give us all specific examples of these things please. Actual decisions and implementation of policy that has achieved the things you claim. All figures have been provided by the ONS and are simple to find if you bother looking. I don't want to be rude, but as a previous poster said to me - it is surely up to you to disprove what I have said as the figures are correct and the source is the ONS. Without holding your hand and going through each item one by one (which I haven't the time or inclination to do), I cannot help you any further. " Ok so less unemployment is false Unemployment increased. Total paye individuals is down 200k https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/earningsandworkinghours/bulletins/earningsandemploymentfrompayasyouearnrealtimeinformationuk/june2025 The lfs for self employed has been scrapped Lower taxes. National insurance increased . Farm taxes. Capital gains taxes.council tax increases.stsmp duty on land increase. Excise on electric vehicles. Property allowances for Landlords. Non domicile tax. More housing. I've no idea how you're calculating this. Most house completions will be from the tory government time. I'm not sure which legislation you think got passed to increase the speed of building when Labour took over can you provide the context? More green energy. Again. Not sure how you are calculating this. No policy changes have been enacted. There is no completion of any new green energy as far as I am aware that were approved and completed in the last 10 months. Infact several have decided bot to go ahead and the government has opted to increase green subsidies. Lower inflation- cpi went up by 1% The ons https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/inflationandpriceindices/timeseries/d7g7/mm23 Higher wages. Growth rates in pay have significantly slowed under labour vs tory https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/employmentandemployeetypes/bulletins/averageweeklyearningsingreatbritain/june2025 | |||
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"Far too early in the electoral cycle for anyone to make a proper assessment" That’s not what I asked tho. I asked if you are getting (add the words so far if that helps?) what you thought you were voting for? For example, the only thing that strikes me that was said before the election and has been done is VAT on private schools. An obvious one that hasn’t is “smash the gangs”. I didn’t vote but I’m just curious as we approach the 12 month mark, what has actually been done that you expected from their manifesto. | |||
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"No government has ever done what they said in such a short space of time.. I voted for Blair in 97 but didn't vote Labour the next two elections and I voted Labour again this time but it's too early to say what I will vote in 29.." Thanks for that information. You should go into politics yourself as you deliver a great message while avoiding the question. 
To clarify, just in case I’ve not made it clear…. I didn’t ask if they have delivered everything they promised, I asked if what they have delivered so far was on their list of promises, as you saw it. | |||
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"No government has ever done what they said in such a short space of time.. I voted for Blair in 97 but didn't vote Labour the next two elections and I voted Labour again this time but it's too early to say what I will vote in 29.. Thanks for that information. You should go into politics yourself as you deliver a great message while avoiding the question.
To clarify, just in case I’ve not made it clear…. I didn’t ask if they have delivered everything they promised, I asked if what they have delivered so far was on their list of promises, as you saw it. "To be clear again and for the last time in this tediousness of you not understanding what I've said.. It's too early for myself etc etc fucking etc.. | |||
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"No government has ever done what they said in such a short space of time.. I voted for Blair in 97 but didn't vote Labour the next two elections and I voted Labour again this time but it's too early to say what I will vote in 29.. Thanks for that information. You should go into politics yourself as you deliver a great message while avoiding the question.
To clarify, just in case I’ve not made it clear…. I didn’t ask if they have delivered everything they promised, I asked if what they have delivered so far was on their list of promises, as you saw it.
To be clear again and for the last time in this tediousness of you not understanding what I've said..
It's too early for myself etc etc fucking etc.. "So thats a no then. Thank you for clarifying | |||
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"No government has ever done what they said in such a short space of time.. I voted for Blair in 97 but didn't vote Labour the next two elections and I voted Labour again this time but it's too early to say what I will vote in 29.. Thanks for that information. You should go into politics yourself as you deliver a great message while avoiding the question.
To clarify, just in case I’ve not made it clear…. I didn’t ask if they have delivered everything they promised, I asked if what they have delivered so far was on their list of promises, as you saw it.
To be clear again and for the last time in this tediousness of you not understanding what I've said..
It's too early for myself etc etc fucking etc..
So thats a no then. Thank you for clarifying "That's your inability to read and accept something clearly written because your opinion differs showing itself again.. Having different opinions is fine of course, as is someone saying something other than what your sense of entitlement looks to be demanding.. | |||
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"No government has ever done what they said in such a short space of time.. I voted for Blair in 97 but didn't vote Labour the next two elections and I voted Labour again this time but it's too early to say what I will vote in 29.. Thanks for that information. You should go into politics yourself as you deliver a great message while avoiding the question.
To clarify, just in case I’ve not made it clear…. I didn’t ask if they have delivered everything they promised, I asked if what they have delivered so far was on their list of promises, as you saw it.
To be clear again and for the last time in this tediousness of you not understanding what I've said..
It's too early for myself etc etc fucking etc..
So thats a no then. Thank you for clarifying
That's your inability to read and accept something clearly written because your opinion differs showing itself again..
Having different opinions is fine of course, as is someone saying something other than what your sense of entitlement looks to be demanding.. "You don’t have to apologise. Many Labour voters feel let down, your not alone | |||
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"No government has ever done what they said in such a short space of time.. I voted for Blair in 97 but didn't vote Labour the next two elections and I voted Labour again this time but it's too early to say what I will vote in 29.." I'm edging my bets it won't be labour 
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"If you voted Labour in the general election, are you getting what you thought you were voting for?" "Far too early in the electoral cycle for anyone to make a proper assessment ..." True enough. So let me ask a slightly different question. Do you feel that Labour have the ability to achieve what they said they would, given enough time? If there was a general election tomorrow, would you vote Labour again? | |||
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"No government has ever done what they said in such a short space of time.. I voted for Blair in 97 but didn't vote Labour the next two elections and I voted Labour again this time but it's too early to say what I will vote in 29.. Thanks for that information. You should go into politics yourself as you deliver a great message while avoiding the question.
To clarify, just in case I’ve not made it clear…. I didn’t ask if they have delivered everything they promised, I asked if what they have delivered so far was on their list of promises, as you saw it.
To be clear again and for the last time in this tediousness of you not understanding what I've said..
It's too early for myself etc etc fucking etc.. "But I guess they have had the first quarter as the last 6 months will be elections and the government will be all but shut. 1.5 million homes  | |||
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"The trouble with politics is that I can agree with certain policies of each party, but not most policies of any party. So I'll never get what I want, but I do feel that the current situation is like mortgaging the house to give all occupants a nice holiday and new car but in 5 years, you'll be homeless with an old car and some worthless holiday pics." Oh I love this analogy but yes it's like a big gamble to build to increase productivity when trads people are thin on the ground. Increase traning for the youth yes. Incurage hands on at school age. "Then build" | |||
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"No government has ever done what they said in such a short space of time.. I voted for Blair in 97 but didn't vote Labour the next two elections and I voted Labour again this time but it's too early to say what I will vote in 29.. Thanks for that information. You should go into politics yourself as you deliver a great message while avoiding the question.
To clarify, just in case I’ve not made it clear…. I didn’t ask if they have delivered everything they promised, I asked if what they have delivered so far was on their list of promises, as you saw it.
To be clear again and for the last time in this tediousness of you not understanding what I've said..
It's too early for myself etc etc fucking etc..
So thats a no then. Thank you for clarifying
That's your inability to read and accept something clearly written because your opinion differs showing itself again..
Having different opinions is fine of course, as is someone saying something other than what your sense of entitlement looks to be demanding..
You don’t have to apologise. Many Labour voters feel let down, your not alone "You misread the room.. | |||
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"If you voted Labour in the general election, are you getting what you thought you were voting for? That and much more Thank God we have a responsible government leading the country which had already given us:- Lower taxes Less unemployment More housing More green energy Less illegal immigrants Lower inflation Better education Higher wages A more responsive and better equipped NHS What a difference to the last 14 years! All figures taken from the ONS Can you give us all specific examples of these things please. Actual decisions and implementation of policy that has achieved the things you claim. All figures have been provided by the ONS and are simple to find if you bother looking. I don't want to be rude, but as a previous poster said to me - it is surely up to you to disprove what I have said as the figures are correct and the source is the ONS. Without holding your hand and going through each item one by one (which I haven't the time or inclination to do), I cannot help you any further. " haha you are deluded | |||
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"If you voted Labour in the general election, are you getting what you thought you were voting for? Far too early in the electoral cycle for anyone to make a proper assessment ... True enough. So let me ask a slightly different question. Do you feel that Labour have the ability to achieve what they said they would, given enough time? If there was a general election tomorrow, would you vote Labour again?" things may be looking better by the next general election but here in Wales we have an election next May benefit cuts 20 MPH etc have made made labour very unpopular | |||
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"If you voted Labour in the general election, are you getting what you thought you were voting for? Far too early in the electoral cycle for anyone to make a proper assessment ... True enough. So let me ask a slightly different question. Do you feel that Labour have the ability to achieve what they said they would, given enough time? If there was a general election tomorrow, would you vote Labour again? things may be looking better by the next general election but here in Wales we have an election next May benefit cuts 20 MPH etc have made made labour very unpopular " Ah Wales........ The labour Blue print LOL | |||
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"Let's remember Liz Truss crashed the economy and left us with higher interest rates. Short memories in many cases here" The bond markets crashed the economy, the policy never had a chance to be implemented and even after that 10, 30 year gilts were not as high as they are under mrs Reeves. | |||
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"Let's remember Liz Truss crashed the economy and left us with higher interest rates. Short memories in many cases here The bond markets crashed the economy, the policy never had a chance to be implemented and even after that 10, 30 year gilts were not as high as they are under mrs Reeves." It was a change in policy announced which unsettled the markets. Tory caused | |||
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"Let's remember Liz Truss crashed the economy and left us with higher interest rates. Short memories in many cases here The bond markets crashed the economy, the policy never had a chance to be implemented and even after that 10, 30 year gilts were not as high as they are under mrs Reeves. It was a change in policy announced which unsettled the markets. Tory caused" How did Truss crash the economy, if you you the detail we can then discuss further. | |||
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"I voted Labour and yes there have been bumps in the road and I suspect more are ahead . But after the rotten,corrupt to the core last few Conservative governments it has been refreshing when folks are getting in a lather over concert tickets. While tens of millions were handed out by Boris n his cronies . Yet no one has been in jail . Their arrogance was and remains shameful. " . How could Boris hand our money to his cronies.? I doubt that he had access to the payment system as civil servants would have to authorise them. To date the current Labour government have achieved nothing to help ordinary working people. They have simply surrendered to the pay demands of train drivers and NHS staff. It is the ordinary members of the public who have to fund this. Boris saved us during the Covid crisis . Many lives were saved due to his action and leadship. Thanks to Kier Starmer more people are becoming unemployed. Raising employers NI contributions hardly helps the economy. Non doms are now leaving the UK so we are losing the tax that they already pay. | |||
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"On that note I am out and luckily will not read any comments from those who lack empathy for our volnurable, disabled and less fortunate in our society. "I don’t see the point in participating in the forum if you’re not at least willing to read other people opinions. But that’s your choice I guess Sweeping generalisation but there’s 3 types of people that get some form of disability payment… 1. Those for whom the situation is never going to change. Losing a limb for example, it’s never gonna grow back so spending money reassessing them every 3 years seems pretty pointless. 2. Those whose condition can and is most likely going to change. It’s important these people are assessed on an appropriate schedule to see if they still qualify for benefits. 3. Fraudulent claims. Hard to spot sometimes I know. But there are people who have had decades of disability payments when there’s nothing wrong with them. I know it can be expensive to investigate these people but it’s still the right thing to do. I don’t think we’ve seen specific details about what changes are going to be made (correct me if I’m wrong) but hopefully those in category one will be left alone and hopefully those in category two will be treated fairly. Those in category 3 need to be given a disability and no money. | |||
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"If you voted Labour in the general election, are you getting what you thought you were voting for? " In my part of the UK if you wanted the Tories out you voted LibDem. But I'm very happy with this Labour Government because they are unlocking the barriers to growth which the last three Tory governments weren't able to do. Three major airport expansions in the southeast, lower Thames Crossing, trade deals planning reforms etc. As a pensioner I have no problem with wages being increased just as my pension has been increased by the triple lock year after year. Pension increases were better than train operators over the same cycle. Don't forget that about 40% of wages/pensions/benefits are taxable. I would much prefer ordinary people to see income rises than the likes of Michelle Mone or Jacob Rees-Mogg trousering a £7million Brexit bonus paid offshore and not taxable.... | |||
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"If you voted Labour in the general election, are you getting what you thought you were voting for? " I did not vote Labour . Their policies are a disaster. Surrendering to the demands of trade unions wanting more pay for NHS staff and train drivers is hardly an achievement. They have simply asked all the hard working employees in the private sector to pay more tax . At least a significant sector of the private sector agree. Polls show that they are one of the most unpopular governments in history. | |||
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"If you voted Labour in the general election, are you getting what you thought you were voting for? In my part of the UK if you wanted the Tories out you voted LibDem. But I'm very happy with this Labour Government because they are unlocking the barriers to growth which the last three Tory governments weren't able to do. Three major airport expansions in the southeast, lower Thames Crossing, trade deals planning reforms etc. As a pensioner I have no problem with wages being increased just as my pension has been increased by the triple lock year after year. Pension increases were better than train operators over the same cycle. Don't forget that about 40% of wages/pensions/benefits are taxable. I would much prefer ordinary people to see income rises than the likes of Michelle Mone or Jacob Rees-Mogg trousering a £7million Brexit bonus paid offshore and not taxable.... " The lower Thames crossing has been in the pipeline for years, Labour can’t take credit for that. Doubt it will be completed any time soon. The economy is on its knees, close to zero growth over the past year and a possible recession on the horizon. They increased employer NI which is an obstacle to growth. Thousands of businesses closing and tens if thousands of jobs lost and less new jobs being created. | |||
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"SEND being fixed (it’s being worked on) Min wage increase helps grow the economy Construction Industry payments terms being looked at… ie not having to wait 120 days to get paid Fair payment code for businesses. Making harder for companies to work with Government who don’t pay their 97% of their suppliers in 30 days. Removing NHS England so that NHS is being fixed Increase in defence spending which helps economy massively Nationalising Rail GB Energy At local level more grants for charities Free school meals during holidays Inflation is down Deported more assulym seekers than the Tories. Fixing immigration system to stop the hotels… For those who thinks 14 years of cuts and greed can be fixed in less than 12 months needs their heads looked at. It’s going to take more than 4 years to fix the mess left behind. " Sounds incredible! Latest Ipsos polling: 16% satisfied with Labour, 76% dissatisfied. 32% of 2024 Labour voters satisfied with the government. 73% dissatisfied with Starmer. Why is this? I guess we are back to people who don’t vote Labour being stupid. | |||
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"SEND being fixed (it’s being worked on) Min wage increase helps grow the economy Construction Industry payments terms being looked at… ie not having to wait 120 days to get paid Fair payment code for businesses. Making harder for companies to work with Government who don’t pay their 97% of their suppliers in 30 days. Removing NHS England so that NHS is being fixed Increase in defence spending which helps economy massively Nationalising Rail GB Energy At local level more grants for charities Free school meals during holidays Inflation is down Deported more assulym seekers than the Tories. Fixing immigration system to stop the hotels… For those who thinks 14 years of cuts and greed can be fixed in less than 12 months needs their heads looked at. It’s going to take more than 4 years to fix the mess left behind. " I'm disappointed with all parties but still get amazed how people can select specific data to support their cause. SEND and construction industry being "worked on", so nothing yet after a year to act and 14 years to decide a plan How does increasing minimum wage increase the economy? Nothing visible been gained by removing NHS England yet, might have long term gains but way to early yet to claim as a good decision Increase in defence budget helping economy. In the short term increase spending always helps the economy but if the money comes from borrowing it hinders it in the long run by creating more debt to service and at a higher rate. Also considering a large amount of uk military equipment is foreign, especially American it will not help the UK economy much. Nationalisation rail and GB energy, to early to state if that's a good thing or bad Charity grants and school meals - how's it being paid? Borrowed money. Inflation down. Really?? You must be selecting a very specific criteria to support that. More asylum seekers deported but more let/encouraged in. Be interested to find the NET figures. Fixing immigration system, so not fixed yet then and Labour were also staunch opposition to any attempt by previous government to curtail illegal immigration So in short, very selective/inaccurate data and a few hopes of things getting better. Things might be better by the end of their term but from "non selective" data such as rate and amount of current borrowing and GDP, it's not looking good from where I'm standing, and the fact that the whole cabinet in charge of the country haven't even run a sweet shop between them doesn't inspire me with confidence. | |||
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"If you voted Labour in the general election, are you getting what you thought you were voting for? That and much more Thank God we have a responsible government leading the country which had already given us:- Lower taxes Less unemployment More housing More green energy Less illegal immigrants Lower inflation Better education Higher wages A more responsive and better equipped NHS What a difference to the last 14 years! All figures taken from the ONS" | |||
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"Min wage increase helps grow the economy" The increase in wage costs will mean that companies have to charge more for their products. All those workers with more money in their pockets are going to find that they have to pay out more for the same stuff they used to buy before. That's not growing the economy, that's just creating inflation. "GB Energy" GB Energy will just waste a lot of money on doomed green initiatives. What do you think this will achieve? "Deported more assulym seekers than the Tories." Not true. They deported more people than the Tories, but the vast majority of those were people that had over-stayed their visas, not asylum seekers. We don't know how many asylum seekers they deported, because they refuse to publish the figures. "Fixing immigration system to stop the hotels…" Let me know when that actually happens. | |||
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"Inflation is down" Where do you get that idea? Inflation is currently 3.2% (the May figure), which I agree is down 0.2% from the April figure, but it's still up from the 2% we had when Labour took over. | |||
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"For those who thinks 14 years of cuts and greed can be fixed in less than 12 months needs their heads looked at. It’s going to take more than 4 years to fix the mess left behind" How do you come to that conclusion? If the “actions” of a previous government are genuinely the reason for all our woes, then they can be reversed in a matter of weeks. I don’t how you or the government you support, think that spending money we don’t have will fix anything. Lets look at their election claims around the big issues…. 1. Smash the gangs. Not even close. More boat crossings than ever. 2. No tax increases for working people. Well first off, once in power they couldn’t even define what a “working person” was. Then they increased taxes on every employee in the private sector. That’s pretty much every working person. 3. They said they would increase spending through growth, yet killed growth by taxing jobs. So are planing to borrow another £119 billion 4. They said they would balance the books with tight fiscal rules. Borrowing by an extra £119 billion is not tight fiscal policy. 5. Build 1.4 million homes. How’s that going? Asking for a friend. | |||
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