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By *eoBlooms OP   Man
7 weeks ago

Springfield

Does it still exist in the UK, and does it matter if not?

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By *uffolkcouple-bi onlyCouple
7 weeks ago

Bolton

That’s not straight forward to answer. I’ve started a new thread for those who voted Labour to say if they are getting what they voted for or not.

Those who didn’t vote for them will clearly not be happy with them. I’m a lifelong conservative voter and I’m not happy with the party at the moment and wasn’t happy with the shambles after Covid kicked in.

I can see why many people are turning to Reform but they have recently shot themselves in the foot a couple of times. I’m not sure their support will last till the next election the way they are carrying on.

Labour would say that they just won the biggest majority they have ever had so their contract with the people is strong. But based on opinion polls it’s clearly not, but they will still stay in power for another 4 years. That’s the system we have. A lot will come down to how the unions upcoming pay demands are handled. Starmers usual negotiating tactic is to give in at the first hurdle. Private sector getting around the level of inflation while public sector get triple that won’t go down well.

But if Starmer does play hardball the unions will push to get him replaced. It’s not an easy one for him to win.

Wouldn’t it be great to have a system where an incoming government can only implement stuff that was in their manifesto, or stuff that’s a response to global circumstances changing. Wars, recession, trade deals etc.

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By *NaughtyManMan
7 weeks ago

Essex

I think I've got a copy knocking around somewhere left over from Uni...

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By *coptoCouple
7 weeks ago

Côte d'Azur & Great Yarmouth

One thing's for sure: the UK refused to sign the EU's Social Protocol ("Social Chapter"). You know, unimportant things like social security, termination of employment contracts, workers' representation, employment of third country nationals legally resident...

We opted out - so much for the "sovereignty" we were supposed NOT to have had!

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By *otMe66Man
7 weeks ago

Terra Firma

It is a basic grounding: "we can all live together more safely and fairly, under shared rules and values”.

A breakdown began when "communities" became something to mean different to the norm, without actually saying it. This has gradually moved shared rules and values, or the perception of not holding shared rules and values.

Works wonderfully if you are looking to divide groups, 2 tier policing is a perfect example. People are more likely to gravitate towards those that appear to hold the same rules and values.

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By *eoBlooms OP   Man
7 weeks ago

Springfield


"It is a basic grounding: "we can all live together more safely and fairly, under shared rules and values”.

A breakdown began when "communities" became something to mean different to the norm, without actually saying it. This has gradually moved shared rules and values, or the perception of not holding shared rules and values.

Works wonderfully if you are looking to divide groups, 2 tier policing is a perfect example. People are more likely to gravitate towards those that appear to hold the same rules and values. "

Very well put

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