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By *aveman 77 OP   Man
1 day ago

Rotherham

is anyone else listening to the sentencing.two things that gets me why not murder and why shouldn't they be named colour age sex shouldn't come into it feral is feral.his poor family listening to what happened racially abused hit with a slider what the hell are we bringing up.

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By *ools and the brainCouple
1 day ago

couple, us we him her.


"is anyone else listening to the sentencing.two things that gets me why not murder and why shouldn't they be named colour age sex shouldn't come into it feral is feral.his poor family listening to what happened racially abused hit with a slider what the hell are we bringing up."

Because there's no consequences for bad behaviour these days.

anti social society.

Kids are in charge too many excuses for people's lack of respect and ability to parent, everyone always seems to blame someone or something else very few seem to be willing to take responsibility.

We are wrapping kid's up in cotton wool worried about hurting their feelings,is it any suprise we are raising a generation of monsters.

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By *aveman 77 OP   Man
1 day ago

Rotherham


"is anyone else listening to the sentencing.two things that gets me why not murder and why shouldn't they be named colour age sex shouldn't come into it feral is feral.his poor family listening to what happened racially abused hit with a slider what the hell are we bringing up.

Because there's no consequences for bad behaviour these days.

anti social society.

Kids are in charge too many excuses for people's lack of respect and ability to parent, everyone always seems to blame someone or something else very few seem to be willing to take responsibility.

We are wrapping kid's up in cotton wool worried about hurting their feelings,is it any suprise we are raising a generation of monsters."

completely agree and it ain't going to get better.

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By *hrill CollinsMan
1 day ago

The Outer Rim


"is anyone else listening to the sentencing.two things that gets me why not murder and why shouldn't they be named colour age sex shouldn't come into it feral is feral.his poor family listening to what happened racially abused hit with a slider what the hell are we bringing up.

Because there's no consequences for bad behaviour these days.

anti social society.

Kids are in charge too many excuses for people's lack of respect and ability to parent, everyone always seems to blame someone or something else very few seem to be willing to take responsibility.

We are wrapping kid's up in cotton wool worried about hurting their feelings,is it any suprise we are raising a generation of monsters."

wrapped up in cotton wool or left to go ferral .... which is it? it can't be both

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple
1 day ago

Border of London


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wrapped up in cotton wool or left to go ferral .... which is it? it can't be both"

Feral sheep?

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By *uffolkcouple-bi onlyCouple
1 day ago

West Suffolk


"is anyone else listening to the sentencing.two things that gets me why not murder and why shouldn't they be named colour age sex shouldn't come into it feral is feral.his poor family listening to what happened racially abused hit with a slider what the hell are we bringing up.

Because there's no consequences for bad behaviour these days.

anti social society.

Kids are in charge too many excuses for people's lack of respect and ability to parent, everyone always seems to blame someone or something else very few seem to be willing to take responsibility.

We are wrapping kid's up in cotton wool worried about hurting their feelings,is it any suprise we are raising a generation of monsters.

wrapped up in cotton wool or left to go ferral .... which is it? it can't be both"

Actually it can very easily be both. Wrapped up in cotton wool with regard to not teaching them that actions have consequences, that there’s more to life then their own feelings, while allowing them to go into the big wide world and do whatever they want

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By *hrill CollinsMan
1 day ago

The Outer Rim


"is anyone else listening to the sentencing.two things that gets me why not murder and why shouldn't they be named colour age sex shouldn't come into it feral is feral.his poor family listening to what happened racially abused hit with a slider what the hell are we bringing up.

Because there's no consequences for bad behaviour these days.

anti social society.

Kids are in charge too many excuses for people's lack of respect and ability to parent, everyone always seems to blame someone or something else very few seem to be willing to take responsibility.

We are wrapping kid's up in cotton wool worried about hurting their feelings,is it any suprise we are raising a generation of monsters.

wrapped up in cotton wool or left to go ferral .... which is it? it can't be both

Actually it can very easily be both. Wrapped up in cotton wool with regard to not teaching them that actions have consequences, that there’s more to life then their own feelings, while allowing them to go into the big wide world and do whatever they want "

claptrap

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By *aveman 77 OP   Man
1 day ago

Rotherham

Fuck me only 7 yrs half that take the time already served could be out in 2 yrs id wait for the cunt honestly what is this country doing

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By *aveman 77 OP   Man
1 day ago

Rotherham

Girl 3 yrs youth supervision id appeal it if that was my family member

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By *otMe66Man
1 day ago

Terra Firma

The idea of holding parents accountable for their children’s actions is worth serious thought for our legal system, especially in extreme cases like this. I have read about this very thing in parts of the US where parents can be taken to court and sentenced if it’s shown they failed to take reasonable steps to control or intervene in their child’s behaviour.

The question is where does parental responsibility begin and more importantly end? Like many other issues we are facing today in this country, acceptable behaviour and boundaries now need to be written down precisely and with no loopholes, in absence of many a persons moral compass.

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By *coptoCouple
1 day ago

Côte d'Azur & Great Yarmouth

Blame the parents?

No, I blame the grandparents for not teaching their children how to bring up kids.

No, actually, I blame the great-grandparents for not...

No, in reality I don't give a shit!

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By *aveman 77 OP   Man
1 day ago

Rotherham


"The idea of holding parents accountable for their children’s actions is worth serious thought for our legal system, especially in extreme cases like this. I have read about this very thing in parts of the US where parents can be taken to court and sentenced if it’s shown they failed to take reasonable steps to control or intervene in their child’s behaviour.

The question is where does parental responsibility begin and more importantly end? Like many other issues we are facing today in this country, acceptable behaviour and boundaries now need to be written down precisely and with no loopholes, in absence of many a persons moral compass. "

definitely I've seen those parents in America been sentenced to a very long time I think it was to do with allowing access to there guns.

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By *otMe66Man
1 day ago

Terra Firma


"Blame the parents?

No, I blame the grandparents for not teaching their children how to bring up kids.

No, actually, I blame the great-grandparents for not...

No, in reality I don't give a shit!"

You added blame, why?

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By *uffolkcouple-bi onlyCouple
1 day ago

West Suffolk


"is anyone else listening to the sentencing.two things that gets me why not murder and why shouldn't they be named colour age sex shouldn't come into it feral is feral.his poor family listening to what happened racially abused hit with a slider what the hell are we bringing up.

Because there's no consequences for bad behaviour these days.

anti social society.

Kids are in charge too many excuses for people's lack of respect and ability to parent, everyone always seems to blame someone or something else very few seem to be willing to take responsibility.

We are wrapping kid's up in cotton wool worried about hurting their feelings,is it any suprise we are raising a generation of monsters.

wrapped up in cotton wool or left to go ferral .... which is it? it can't be both

Actually it can very easily be both. Wrapped up in cotton wool with regard to not teaching them that actions have consequences, that there’s more to life then their own feelings, while allowing them to go into the big wide world and do whatever they want

claptrap"

Good argument, very well thought out, except for the pronouns

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan
1 day ago

nearby

7 years for aggravated murder of a pensioner

Why such a weak sentence

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By *otMe66Man
1 day ago

Terra Firma


"7 years for aggravated murder of a pensioner

Why such a weak sentence "

I would expect someone to appeal this as unduly lenient.

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By *eoBloomsMan
1 day ago

Springfield

Would have got longer sentences for a hurty tweet.

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By *mateur100Man
24 hours ago

nr faversham

Disgraceful yet not surprised. Where's the justice for the victim

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By *idnight RamblerMan
14 hours ago

Pershore

Even considering the age of the perpetrators, the sentences seem incredibly lenient for the taking of a life. What message does it send out? Why is this guy's life worth less than Jamie Bulger whose killers are still inside, no?

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By *eoBloomsMan
14 hours ago

Springfield


"Even considering the age of the perpetrators, the sentences seem incredibly lenient for the taking of a life. What message does it send out? Why is this guy's life worth less than Jamie Bulger whose killers are still inside, no?"

The sentencing focus seemed to be all on the criminals welfare, particularly the girl although she clearly played a major part in encouraging the violence.

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By *ools and the brainCouple
14 hours ago

couple, us we him her.

Guaranteed they will be put in a secure unit and treated like superstars in rehab.

All the psychological support, medical, TV, music, games consoles.

Staff pandering to their every need and apart from being able to leave pretty much do what they want including kicking off and wrecking the place, assaulting staff.....

And it'll be put down to their traumatic experience and" it's not their fault" attitude.

They'll be out within 18months free to carry on, and at great expense to the tax payer given new identies, rehoused and benefits because of their traumatic experience.

Meanwhile the victims family are left to fend for themselves.

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By *ools and the brainCouple
14 hours ago

couple, us we him her.


"Guaranteed they will be put in a secure unit and treated like superstars in rehab.

All the psychological support, medical, TV, music, games consoles.

Staff pandering to their every need and apart from being able to leave pretty much do what they want including kicking off and wrecking the place, assaulting staff.....

And it'll be put down to their traumatic experience and" it's not their fault" attitude.

They'll be out within 18months free to carry on, and at great expense to the tax payer given new identies, rehoused and benefits because of their traumatic experience.

Meanwhile the victims family are left to fend for themselves."

I really wish this was bullshit sadly it's not.

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By *eoBloomsMan
14 hours ago

Springfield


"Guaranteed they will be put in a secure unit and treated like superstars in rehab.

All the psychological support, medical, TV, music, games consoles.

Staff pandering to their every need and apart from being able to leave pretty much do what they want including kicking off and wrecking the place, assaulting staff.....

And it'll be put down to their traumatic experience and" it's not their fault" attitude.

They'll be out within 18months free to carry on, and at great expense to the tax payer given new identies, rehoused and benefits because of their traumatic experience.

Meanwhile the victims family are left to fend for themselves."

The girl has no custodial sentence, just a supervision order. Beggars belief.

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By *ools and the brainCouple
14 hours ago

couple, us we him her.


"Guaranteed they will be put in a secure unit and treated like superstars in rehab.

All the psychological support, medical, TV, music, games consoles.

Staff pandering to their every need and apart from being able to leave pretty much do what they want including kicking off and wrecking the place, assaulting staff.....

And it'll be put down to their traumatic experience and" it's not their fault" attitude.

They'll be out within 18months free to carry on, and at great expense to the tax payer given new identies, rehoused and benefits because of their traumatic experience.

Meanwhile the victims family are left to fend for themselves.

The girl has no custodial sentence, just a supervision order. Beggars belief."

But I'm sure she's very sorry and all the caseworker visit's and therapy will help her with her "traumatic experience"

This sentence needs reviewing and the judge needs sacking,I'd imagine it wasn't a judge but a panel of social workers all keen to keep child services well funded by keeping her in the community and needing support.

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By *eoBloomsMan
14 hours ago

Springfield

This was also a racially motivated attack.

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By *ools and the brainCouple
14 hours ago

couple, us we him her.


"This was also a racially motivated attack."

Children can't be racist it's the victims fault

Honestly it's fucking disgusting and feel so sorry for the family it's sickening.

I grew up in a pretty violent part of London and subject to quiet a few assault's, much racial tension at the time early 80's.

But this is another level of entitlement and violence.

Consequences

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By *eoBloomsMan
14 hours ago

Springfield

They called him the P word but judge said they weren't racist.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
14 hours ago

in Lancashire


"They called him the P word but judge said they weren't racist. "

It's a really odd thing for the judge to say, the sentence looks very lenient with the racial element..

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan
13 hours ago

nearby


"They called him the P word but judge said they weren't racist. "

They should be sent to Pakistan for justice.

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By *uffolkcouple-bi onlyCouple
13 hours ago

West Suffolk

Taking a life = 7 years, out in 3 tops

Aiding and Abetting taking a life = let’s keep an eye on her once a month for a few years, see how she turns out.

Sending a tweet =

Yeah we all know the answer and you can guarantee Lucy won’t have been behaving according to the parole board, so needs to complete her sentence in full. Maybe add a few extra years here and there for whatever we can pin on her while she’s inside.

Whoever has passed this judgment needs a mental competency test

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