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By *uffelskloof OP   Man
1 week ago

Lunenburg, Nova Scotia

Economists think they’ve found another £30 billion “Black Hole” in the government’s finances.

Whose fault is this Black Hole?

And how is the hole going to be filled?

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By *ists003Man
1 week ago

London

I say and as I quote from GTA San Andreas

"Ah shit, here we go again"

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By *uffolkcouple-bi onlyCouple
1 week ago

West Suffolk

Can’t be another one cos the last one was made up

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By *exy_HornyCouple
1 week ago

Leigh


"Economists think they’ve found another £30 billion “Black Hole” in the government’s finances.

Whose fault is this Black Hole?

And how is the hole going to be filled?"

Has to be the Tories fault. Or maybe Reform.

How can they fill the hole?

Kill off all the pensioners so they aren’t a drain on the welfare or health budgets.

Steal all farmers land either by inheritance taxes or by compulsory purchase for housing (at agricultural value).

Raise taxes on honest working people.

Oh wait, these are all current policies so the worst is yet to.

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By *uddy laneMan
1 week ago

dudley


"Economists think they’ve found another £30 billion “Black Hole” in the government’s finances.

Whose fault is this Black Hole?

And how is the hole going to be filled?"

The bank of England must of printed it they be better phoning up the govner and asking him to look at the books.

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By *mateur100Man
1 week ago

nr faversham

Even the OBR hasn't acknowledged this £22bn black hole that was claimed. The latest black hole is a direct result of the govts budget.

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By *uffolkcouple-bi onlyCouple
1 week ago

West Suffolk


"Even the OBR hasn't acknowledged this £22bn black hole that was claimed. The latest black hole is a direct result of the govts budget."

Their or treasury report said it was £9.5 billion, which just happens to be the same about as the train drivers and doctors pay rises. Weird that

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By *ssexPerv80Man
1 week ago

Essex & London


"Even the OBR hasn't acknowledged this £22bn black hole that was claimed. The latest black hole is a direct result of the govts budget.

Their or treasury report said it was £9.5 billion, which just happens to be the same about as the train drivers and doctors pay rises. Weird that "

Who pays the vast majority of train driver’s wages, out of interest? (At present, at least)

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By *uffolkcouple-bi onlyCouple
1 week ago

West Suffolk


"Even the OBR hasn't acknowledged this £22bn black hole that was claimed. The latest black hole is a direct result of the govts budget.

Their or treasury report said it was £9.5 billion, which just happens to be the same about as the train drivers and doctors pay rises. Weird that

Who pays the vast majority of train driver’s wages, out of interest? (At present, at least) "

The government through their £22 billion subsidy.

Who pays the doctors out of interest? Those same doctors who are about to go on strike again for another big pay claim.

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By *ssexPerv80Man
1 week ago

Essex & London


"Even the OBR hasn't acknowledged this £22bn black hole that was claimed. The latest black hole is a direct result of the govts budget.

Their or treasury report said it was £9.5 billion, which just happens to be the same about as the train drivers and doctors pay rises. Weird that

Who pays the vast majority of train driver’s wages, out of interest? (At present, at least)

The government through their £22 billion subsidy.

Who pays the doctors out of interest? Those same doctors who are about to go on strike again for another big pay claim.

"

So TOC’s have no other income streams? The railway remains a predominantly private industry where TOC’s are concerned - though that will change in the next few years, for sure.

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By *otMe66Man
1 week ago

Terra Firma

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By *ssexPerv80Man
1 week ago

Essex & London


"Even the OBR hasn't acknowledged this £22bn black hole that was claimed. The latest black hole is a direct result of the govts budget.

Their or treasury report said it was £9.5 billion, which just happens to be the same about as the train drivers and doctors pay rises. Weird that

Who pays the vast majority of train driver’s wages, out of interest? (At present, at least)

Is it the poorly served passengers who have no other choice but to pay more for less?"

Well unfortunately the network is in fairly poor shape after decades of underinvestment, and scrapped plans, but maybe with no money going to shareholders things can improve

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By *otMe66Man
1 week ago

Terra Firma


"Even the OBR hasn't acknowledged this £22bn black hole that was claimed. The latest black hole is a direct result of the govts budget.

Their or treasury report said it was £9.5 billion, which just happens to be the same about as the train drivers and doctors pay rises. Weird that

Who pays the vast majority of train driver’s wages, out of interest? (At present, at least)

Is it the poorly served passengers who have no other choice but to pay more for less?

Well unfortunately the network is in fairly poor shape after decades of underinvestment, and scrapped plans, but maybe with no money going to shareholders things can improve "

How is it going to improve exactly? Serious question.

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By *ssexPerv80Man
1 week ago

Essex & London


"Even the OBR hasn't acknowledged this £22bn black hole that was claimed. The latest black hole is a direct result of the govts budget.

Their or treasury report said it was £9.5 billion, which just happens to be the same about as the train drivers and doctors pay rises. Weird that

Who pays the vast majority of train driver’s wages, out of interest? (At present, at least)

Is it the poorly served passengers who have no other choice but to pay more for less?

Well unfortunately the network is in fairly poor shape after decades of underinvestment, and scrapped plans, but maybe with no money going to shareholders things can improve

How is it going to improve exactly? Serious question. "

Just as the last days of BR saw a very efficient service, which was making profit and also introducing new trains and technologies, I believe that a department for transport (which has adequate funding) is better placed to run a coherent network than a mishmash of independent operators all out for profit.

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By *otMe66Man
1 week ago

Terra Firma


"Even the OBR hasn't acknowledged this £22bn black hole that was claimed. The latest black hole is a direct result of the govts budget.

Their or treasury report said it was £9.5 billion, which just happens to be the same about as the train drivers and doctors pay rises. Weird that

Who pays the vast majority of train driver’s wages, out of interest? (At present, at least)

Is it the poorly served passengers who have no other choice but to pay more for less?

Well unfortunately the network is in fairly poor shape after decades of underinvestment, and scrapped plans, but maybe with no money going to shareholders things can improve

How is it going to improve exactly? Serious question.

Just as the last days of BR saw a very efficient service, which was making profit and also introducing new trains and technologies, I believe that a department for transport (which has adequate funding) is better placed to run a coherent network than a mishmash of independent operators all out for profit. "

Are train services running worse now than way back then?

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By *ssexPerv80Man
1 week ago

Essex & London


"Even the OBR hasn't acknowledged this £22bn black hole that was claimed. The latest black hole is a direct result of the govts budget.

Their or treasury report said it was £9.5 billion, which just happens to be the same about as the train drivers and doctors pay rises. Weird that

Who pays the vast majority of train driver’s wages, out of interest? (At present, at least)

Is it the poorly served passengers who have no other choice but to pay more for less?

Well unfortunately the network is in fairly poor shape after decades of underinvestment, and scrapped plans, but maybe with no money going to shareholders things can improve

How is it going to improve exactly? Serious question.

Just as the last days of BR saw a very efficient service, which was making profit and also introducing new trains and technologies, I believe that a department for transport (which has adequate funding) is better placed to run a coherent network than a mishmash of independent operators all out for profit.

Are train services running worse now than way back then?"

Than in BR days? I’d argue yes, particularly in rural areas.

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan
1 week ago

nearby

Nobody anywhere is interested in this government now. Just counting down the four years till they get kicked out.

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By *uffolkcouple-bi onlyCouple
1 week ago

West Suffolk


"Even the OBR hasn't acknowledged this £22bn black hole that was claimed. The latest black hole is a direct result of the govts budget.

Their or treasury report said it was £9.5 billion, which just happens to be the same about as the train drivers and doctors pay rises. Weird that

Who pays the vast majority of train driver’s wages, out of interest? (At present, at least)

The government through their £22 billion subsidy.

Who pays the doctors out of interest? Those same doctors who are about to go on strike again for another big pay claim.

So TOC’s have no other income streams? The railway remains a predominantly private industry where TOC’s are concerned - though that will change in the next few years, for sure."

Funny how I answered your question but you wouldn’t answer mine because the facts don’t fit your narrative.

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By *ssexPerv80Man
1 week ago

Essex & London


"Even the OBR hasn't acknowledged this £22bn black hole that was claimed. The latest black hole is a direct result of the govts budget.

Their or treasury report said it was £9.5 billion, which just happens to be the same about as the train drivers and doctors pay rises. Weird that

Who pays the vast majority of train driver’s wages, out of interest? (At present, at least)

The government through their £22 billion subsidy.

Who pays the doctors out of interest? Those same doctors who are about to go on strike again for another big pay claim.

So TOC’s have no other income streams? The railway remains a predominantly private industry where TOC’s are concerned - though that will change in the next few years, for sure.

Funny how I answered your question but you wouldn’t answer mine because the facts don’t fit your narrative. "

I’ve answered the question on doctors elsewhere. If their union membership votes for strike action in a legal ballot - that’s up to them. Same as any trades union.

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By *uffolkcouple-bi onlyCouple
1 week ago

West Suffolk


" If their union membership votes for strike action in a legal ballot - that’s up to them. Same as any trades union. "

Serious question….

If you’re not happy with your job, why not just get another job? Why try to force your employer to agree to your terms?

It only works when there’s a massive work force that’s not easy to replace with temp and agency staff. If the business has lots of competition, say Tesco for example, the staff going on strike has zero impact on the public, we just shop elsewhere. Not so easy to do that with a doctor or train driver.

As a side note I actually agree with the re-nationalisation of the railways. But the downside is it will give the unions even more power to screw the country over.

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By *aughtystaffs60Couple
6 days ago

Staffordshire

This government is about to cave in again to Doctors. They are currently cutting back on all agency staff cover of shifts no doubt to fund an increased offer.

I know it depends how you look at things but if a dirty great offer is made then this is how it is to being paid for.

The nice little earner of working for NHS and part time for agencies is about to be dumped. They can't have it all ways can they.

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By *ssexPerv80Man
6 days ago

Essex & London


" If their union membership votes for strike action in a legal ballot - that’s up to them. Same as any trades union.

Serious question….

If you’re not happy with your job, why not just get another job? Why try to force your employer to agree to your terms?

"

Because that (if you don’t like it, leave) ultimately forces a race to the bottom, driven by employees who want to reduce working standards and conditions.

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