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"My guess would be that Labour will target everyone who has got any money, with the exception of public sector workers and trade union members. Expect a particular focus on Labour's pet hate groups: Pensioners People who work in the private sector Successful business people People who have bothered saving and investing." Pensioners cannot fight back. Easy target. | |||
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"There are only 2 options available, break the fiscal rules Reeves imposed on herself, or tax working people. Both of these will go against their pledges so I expect the u-turn on winter fuel allowance is specifically to explain away broken pledges. I also expect the circus of ridiculous explantations to be in town as ring masters Starmer and Reeves trot out what a working person is again. " No, there's a 3rd option, one I've told you and many on this forum many times. It is the only one that will work to reduce national debt and raise living standards. | |||
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"There are only 2 options available, break the fiscal rules Reeves imposed on herself, or tax working people. Both of these will go against their pledges so I expect the u-turn on winter fuel allowance is specifically to explain away broken pledges. I also expect the circus of ridiculous explantations to be in town as ring masters Starmer and Reeves trot out what a working person is again. No, there's a 3rd option, one I've told you and many on this forum many times. It is the only one that will work to reduce national debt and raise living standards. " Uk needs a trillion £ of spare cash Nhs and public services Council houses x half a million Military and nato Climate commitment to Paris accord Police and prisons; to name just a few Add £2.8trn in debt already and £319 million a day servicing it. I’m struggling to see where anyone of any political party is going to find this amount of cash. | |||
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" Add £2.8trn in debt already and £319 million a day servicing it. I’m struggling to see where anyone of any political party is going to find this amount of cash. " All of that negativity, shall just throw it in then and down tools, everyone. Not that I don't agree with the severity of what you're saying, it's true. I'm struggling to find a political party with the minerals to do what needs to be done. So I understand why it's difficult for you or anyone to see where they find the money, but it's not impossible. I held reservations before being hopeful on their pre election promises that were clear that they were going to action straight away. Unfortunately they are like all politicians and have reneged their promises with the "dead cat" strategy and now everyone has forgotten about it while it's been brushed under the carpet. | |||
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"There are only 2 options available, break the fiscal rules Reeves imposed on herself, or tax working people." "No, there's a 3rd option, one I've told you and many on this forum many times. It is the only one that will work to reduce national debt and raise living standards." Go on then. Tell us what it is. | |||
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"My guess would be that Labour will target everyone who has got any money, with the exception of public sector workers and trade union members. Expect a particular focus on Labour's pet hate groups: Pensioners People who work in the private sector Successful business people People who have bothered saving and investing." You can add the people who thought about their retirement years and all the government messages urging then to save for their retirement in pension schemes. Seems that they are "rich " having done so and need to pay more tax . | |||
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"My guess would be that Labour will target everyone who has got any money, with the exception of public sector workers and trade union members. Expect a particular focus on Labour's pet hate groups: Pensioners People who work in the private sector Successful business people People who have bothered saving and investing. You can add the people who thought about their retirement years and all the government messages urging then to save for their retirement in pension schemes. Seems that they are "rich " having done so and need to pay more tax ." It gets worse. Having run out of money themselves to waste on pointless “investments” Labour will effectively be forcing pension funds to invest in British projects, ie Miliband's crazy net zero nonsense which will no doubt absolutely tank. So even if people are investing they won’t be getting the returns they should be because the government is directing the money to suit its own ends rather than the interests of the investors. There is not going to be any such thing as “your money”. You will just be temporarily holding it until the government wants it. | |||
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"There are only 2 options available, break the fiscal rules Reeves imposed on herself, or tax working people. Both of these will go against their pledges so I expect the u-turn on winter fuel allowance is specifically to explain away broken pledges. I also expect the circus of ridiculous explantations to be in town as ring masters Starmer and Reeves trot out what a working person is again. No, there's a 3rd option, one I've told you and many on this forum many times. It is the only one that will work to reduce national debt and raise living standards. Uk needs a trillion £ of spare cash Nhs and public services Council houses x half a million Military and nato Climate commitment to Paris accord Police and prisons; to name just a few Add £2.8trn in debt already and £319 million a day servicing it. I’m struggling to see where anyone of any political party is going to find this amount of cash. " For me it's also about getting people back in to work, Cut benifits, Rase the tax threshold, so low earners keep what they earn, then rase paye to take more, And hope you can cut the welfare budget. S | |||
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"There are only 2 options available, break the fiscal rules Reeves imposed on herself, or tax working people. Both of these will go against their pledges so I expect the u-turn on winter fuel allowance is specifically to explain away broken pledges. I also expect the circus of ridiculous explantations to be in town as ring masters Starmer and Reeves trot out what a working person is again. No, there's a 3rd option, one I've told you and many on this forum many times. It is the only one that will work to reduce national debt and raise living standards. Uk needs a trillion £ of spare cash Nhs and public services Council houses x half a million Military and nato Climate commitment to Paris accord Police and prisons; to name just a few Add £2.8trn in debt already and £319 million a day servicing it. I’m struggling to see where anyone of any political party is going to find this amount of cash. For me it's also about getting people back in to work, Cut benifits, Rase the tax threshold, so low earners keep what they earn, then rase paye to take more, And hope you can cut the welfare budget. S" Cut benefits? Like pensions, you mean? | |||
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"Look no further than 'soft' targets:- Pensioners Savers Property owners Small businesses Inheritors Middle incomer earners" All the above and more are in the firing line, through pure ambiguity. As Starmer said, a working person is someone who goes out to earn a living, gets a monthly cheque, and can’t write a cheque to get out of difficulties. | |||
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"There are only 2 options available, break the fiscal rules Reeves imposed on herself, or tax working people. No, there's a 3rd option, one I've told you and many on this forum many times. It is the only one that will work to reduce national debt and raise living standards. Go on then. Tell us what it is." Tell you what it is, I'm sure plenty already know; tax the rich. | |||
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"As Starmer said, a working person is someone who goes out to earn a living, gets a monthly cheque, and can’t write a cheque to get out of difficulties." If those are his actual words, then we have no working people left in this country. I can't remember the last time I saw a cheque. | |||
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"Look no further than 'soft' targets:- Property owners Inheritors " These are the main two that Labour promised to raise tax revenues from but have since reneged on that promise after a few "farmers" drove tractors into London | |||
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"As Starmer said, a working person is someone who goes out to earn a living, gets a monthly cheque, and can’t write a cheque to get out of difficulties. If those are his actual words, then we have no working people left in this country. I can't remember the last time I saw a cheque." Doesn't seem you understand the word "hyperthetical"?!  | |||
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"There are only 2 options available, break the fiscal rules Reeves imposed on herself, or tax working people." "No, there's a 3rd option, one I've told you and many on this forum many times. It is the only one that will work to reduce national debt and raise living standards." "Go on then. Tell us what it is." "Tell you what it is, I'm sure plenty already know; tax the rich." You mean a wealth tax? That would break Labour's pledge of "no new taxes". | |||
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"There are only 2 options available, break the fiscal rules Reeves imposed on herself, or tax working people. No, there's a 3rd option, one I've told you and many on this forum many times. It is the only one that will work to reduce national debt and raise living standards. Go on then. Tell us what it is. Tell you what it is, I'm sure plenty already know; tax the rich. You mean a wealth tax? That would break Labour's pledge of "no new taxes"." I replied to the statement of not having many options, of which there's another that wasn't mentioned, political pledges aren't worth paper they're printed so I don't get why you're trying to make that a stumbling block. | |||
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"Inflation up reported yesterday. Today the UK private sector reported shrinking as firms cut jobs. (For balance 0.7% Q1 gdp increase) And government borrowing jumps to £20.2bn ( £17.8bn forecasted) Black hole getting bigger. Who’s going to be targeted for more tax or austerity cuts. " Hope it's the rich, the landlords and the over hyped tax dodging so called farmers. | |||
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"Inflation up reported yesterday. Today the UK private sector reported shrinking as firms cut jobs. (For balance 0.7% Q1 gdp increase) And government borrowing jumps to £20.2bn ( £17.8bn forecasted) Black hole getting bigger. Who’s going to be targeted for more tax or austerity cuts. Hope it's the rich, the landlords and the over hyped tax dodging so called farmers." They're not farmers! I've seen so many tax dogging scams now, the reason labour 'went after the farmers' was because in reality half of them don't farm or provide food, most of them are just extremely wealthy land owners that keep livestock etc so they can class the estate as a farm and avoid the inheritance tax everyone else has to pay. Of course labour had no spine when they came complaining that their kids wouldn't have that new maserati for their 18th birthday. Load of bolox, same old twats getting away with it. There will be riots in the future when the general public finally wake up and find out its them that are leaching all the resources and hording them, not the boat people after all. | |||
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"Well ...with ever increasing numbers of illegal immigrants crossing the channel invading our once great nation ..it figures that those who have scrimped and scraped to save a bit for their retirement years to a level just over the limit to qualify for Pension Credit and all that goes with that ..will be taxed until the pips squeak to pay to house those illegal immigrants in hotel rooms and give them spending money ." A more efficient visa application scheme, safe routes, and effective appeals process would save money and be safer for migrants. A win-win. But the anti-immigrant crowd aren’t ready for that discussion. | |||
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