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"It's the flegs.....whats the difference between them and the Wolfe Tones singing "up The Ra" I dislike both bands Have we not moved on from " The Brits " " The Fleg lovers, at it again. I don't listen to their music myself either but at least they promote the Irish language which is a big tick in my book. | |||
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" The Fleg lovers, at it again" What do you mean? | |||
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"Well, not quite Just Liam. And the charge is displaying flags “in such a way or in such circumstances as to arouse reasonable suspicion that he is a supporter” of groups the UK considers terrorists. But don't let the facts get in the way of sensationalism" I want to know when Nigel Farage is going to be up on charges for the public video of him giving his support for the IRA, fair is fair lads  | |||
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"Anyone else see Kneecap are being charged for terrorism? The Brits are at it again with their hypocrisy " You do realise what they are being charged with? Displaying a Hezbollah flag at a gig in December, Hezbollah is terrorist organisation who have actually killed an Irish Soldier. They also called for British MP's at another gig. Unfortunately for this ridiculously childish middle class cos playing gobshites it's fuck around find out time. | |||
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"Well, not quite Just Liam. And the charge is displaying flags “in such a way or in such circumstances as to arouse reasonable suspicion that he is a supporter” of groups the UK considers terrorists. But don't let the facts get in the way of sensationalism I want to know when Nigel Farage is going to be up on charges for the public video of him giving his support for the IRA, fair is fair lads "Is that not the video where he got caught out by a few lads paying him 60 quid to say " up the ra" and he didn't know what it meant Can't charge him with being a gobshite When you drive around Belfast parts of the city have Union Jack flags plus Israeli flags on the same poles Other parts have The Tricolour and the palestinian flag on the same poles Flags don't kill people Terrorists kill people I saw a video of him saying from the stage Up Hamas and up Hezbollah That's support | |||
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"Well, not quite Just Liam. And the charge is displaying flags “in such a way or in such circumstances as to arouse reasonable suspicion that he is a supporter” of groups the UK considers terrorists. But don't let the facts get in the way of sensationalism" "Groups the UK considers terrorists". And there you have it in a nutshell. Hypocrisy. Wonder will the returning British IOF soldiers be investigated for their war crimes. | |||
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"Well, not quite Just Liam. And the charge is displaying flags “in such a way or in such circumstances as to arouse reasonable suspicion that he is a supporter” of groups the UK considers terrorists. But don't let the facts get in the way of sensationalism I want to know when Nigel Farage is going to be up on charges for the public video of him giving his support for the IRA, fair is fair lads
Is that not the video where he got caught out by a few lads paying him 60 quid to say " up the ra" and he didn't know what it meant
Can't charge him with being a gobshite
When you drive around Belfast parts of the city have Union Jack flags plus Israeli flags on the same poles
Other parts have The Tricolour and the palestinian flag on the same poles
Flags don't kill people
Terrorists kill people
I saw a video of him saying from the stage
Up Hamas and up Hezbollah
That's support "It's just pure hypocrisy from the British government at the end of the day, then again they have been pro genocide in the past so they've kept up that habit. | |||
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"I don't agree with some of what Kneecap have said or the symbols they project. But, I'd defend their right to say it. It's just silencing those who speak out. The Israel lobbying has struggled to silence Irish people's condemnation, they even tried the old Jeremy Corbyn trick the British fell for. This and Trumps carry-on in South Africa this week are not isolated incidents, it's just a change of tact. I'll be honest, the opinions of anybody who is remotely outraged over Kneecap but silent on an ongoing genocide are irrelevant to me! Politicians or high profile individuals like that are particularly nefarious individuals." This! Anyone who is outraged over a fucking flag but not outraged over a genocide can get in the bin. It’s pure distraction…as per usual, the media are focusing on this instead of the farce that is allowing 5 aid trucks into Gaza but not letting the supplies be unloaded and distributed. Let’s not even mention that 2 of those trucks were full of shrouds instead of food. But yea, let the world focus on a stupid flag. | |||
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"As an ex soldier who served in that part of the world on 5 occasions and has been shot at by Hezbollah on many occasions raising that flag is as bad as waving an ISIS one they are mostly the same organization religious radical terrorists with no regard for anything they can’t use to their advantage from western countries. I don’t listen to kneecaps music or like how they hijack the Irish flag to make money especially in the US and call it art however the fundamental issue here is the slaughter of Palestine and it’s people in the region there is a way for them to raise that issue but that’s not it. Supporting one terrorist organization to defeat another just takes you back to 1948 and start all over again. I would put a rat emoji on here but freedom of speech only allows you the freedom the establishment allows "So having an Irish flag is hijacking the Irish flag now? Does that mean any athlete, sports attendee, concert/_estival attendee etc with a flag is hijacking the flag as well? Bit of a silly statement from your response. I've worked with DF members for years in the medical side so I've heard my fair share of waffle but hijacking the flag is a new one😂 | |||
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"The IDF are the biggest terrorist group in that region at the moment in my opinion Genocide pure and simple " We are talking about Hezbollah and the charges currently facing Belfast Jedward. Keep up  | |||
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"As an ex soldier who served in that part of the world on 5 occasions and has been shot at by Hezbollah on many occasions raising that flag is as bad as waving an ISIS one they are mostly the same organization religious radical terrorists with no regard for anything they can’t use to their advantage from western countries. I don’t listen to kneecaps music or like how they hijack the Irish flag to make money especially in the US and call it art however the fundamental issue here is the slaughter of Palestine and it’s people in the region there is a way for them to raise that issue but that’s not it. Supporting one terrorist organization to defeat another just takes you back to 1948 and start all over again. I would put a rat emoji on here but freedom of speech only allows you the freedom the establishment allows
So having an Irish flag is hijacking the Irish flag now? Does that mean any athlete, sports attendee, concert/_estival attendee etc with a flag is hijacking the flag as well? Bit of a silly statement from your response. I've worked with DF members for years in the medical side so I've heard my fair share of waffle but hijacking the flag is a new one😂"What about the right wing gobshites hijacking the flag Have you genuinely never heard that before | |||
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"The IDF are the biggest terrorist group in that region at the moment in my opinion Genocide pure and simple We are talking about Hezbollah and the charges currently facing Belfast Jedward. Keep up "Right so I have to stick to the topic as started.....didn't read the rules....silly me | |||
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"I don't agree with some of what Kneecap have said or the symbols they project. But, I'd defend their right to say it. It's just silencing those who speak out. The Israel lobbying has struggled to silence Irish people's condemnation, they even tried the old Jeremy Corbyn trick the British fell for. This and Trumps carry-on in South Africa this week are not isolated incidents, it's just a change of tact. I'll be honest, the opinions of anybody who is remotely outraged over Kneecap but silent on an ongoing genocide are irrelevant to me! Politicians or high profile individuals like that are particularly nefarious individuals. This! Anyone who is outraged over a fucking flag but not outraged over a genocide can get in the bin. It’s pure distraction…as per usual, the media are focusing on this instead of the farce that is allowing 5 aid trucks into Gaza but not letting the supplies be unloaded and distributed. Let’s not even mention that 2 of those trucks were full of shrouds instead of food. But yea, let the world focus on a stupid flag. " Go talk to the Family of the Irish soldier Sean Rooney who was murdered by Hezbollah and see if they are happy with a supposedly Irish music group raising the Hezbollah flag. If you want to support a murderous, homophonic, misogynistic organization like Hezbollah that's up to you but the UK Police have decided they won't be putting up with it. | |||
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"I don't agree with some of what Kneecap have said or the symbols they project. But, I'd defend their right to say it. It's just silencing those who speak out. The Israel lobbying has struggled to silence Irish people's condemnation, they even tried the old Jeremy Corbyn trick the British fell for. This and Trumps carry-on in South Africa this week are not isolated incidents, it's just a change of tact. I'll be honest, the opinions of anybody who is remotely outraged over Kneecap but silent on an ongoing genocide are irrelevant to me! Politicians or high profile individuals like that are particularly nefarious individuals." How many people have died so far in the "genocide"? | |||
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" Go talk to the Family of the Irish soldier Sean Rooney who was murdered by Hezbollah and see if they are happy with a supposedly Irish music group raising the Hezbollah flag. If you want to support a murderous, homophonic, misogynistic organization like Hezbollah that's up to you but the UK Police have decided they won't be putting up with it. " Well the UK police have a fairly poor record when it comes to justice and Irish people in general. An organisation with a deep xenophobic history. As above, its just to silence people, God forbid they start to discuss the thousands murdered by weapons supplied by the British state and the profits made from that slaughter. | |||
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" Go talk to the Family of the Irish soldier Sean Rooney who was murdered by Hezbollah and see if they are happy with a supposedly Irish music group raising the Hezbollah flag. If you want to support a murderous, homophonic, misogynistic organization like Hezbollah that's up to you but the UK Police have decided they won't be putting up with it. Well the UK police have a fairly poor record when it comes to justice and Irish people in general. An organisation with a deep xenophobic history. As above, its just to silence people, God forbid they start to discuss the thousands murdered by weapons supplied by the British state and the profits made from that slaughter. " Cool, go cheer for Hezbollah so | |||
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"As an ex soldier who served in that part of the world on 5 occasions and has been shot at by Hezbollah on many occasions raising that flag is as bad as waving an ISIS one they are mostly the same organization religious radical terrorists with no regard for anything they can’t use to their advantage from western countries. I don’t listen to kneecaps music or like how they hijack the Irish flag to make money especially in the US and call it art however the fundamental issue here is the slaughter of Palestine and it’s people in the region there is a way for them to raise that issue but that’s not it. Supporting one terrorist organization to defeat another just takes you back to 1948 and start all over again. I would put a rat emoji on here but freedom of speech only allows you the freedom the establishment allows
So having an Irish flag is hijacking the Irish flag now? Does that mean any athlete, sports attendee, concert/_estival attendee etc with a flag is hijacking the flag as well? Bit of a silly statement from your response. I've worked with DF members for years in the medical side so I've heard my fair share of waffle but hijacking the flag is a new one😂
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"I don't agree with some of what Kneecap have said or the symbols they project. But, I'd defend their right to say it. It's just silencing those who speak out. The Israel lobbying has struggled to silence Irish people's condemnation, they even tried the old Jeremy Corbyn trick the British fell for. This and Trumps carry-on in South Africa this week are not isolated incidents, it's just a change of tact. I'll be honest, the opinions of anybody who is remotely outraged over Kneecap but silent on an ongoing genocide are irrelevant to me! Politicians or high profile individuals like that are particularly nefarious individuals. How many people have died so far in the "genocide"?" 55,000 people, including over 18,000 children. But who cares, eh? Dont let it stop you cheering it on though! | |||
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" Go talk to the Family of the Irish soldier Sean Rooney who was murdered by Hezbollah and see if they are happy with a supposedly Irish music group raising the Hezbollah flag. If you want to support a murderous, homophonic, misogynistic organization like Hezbollah that's up to you but the UK Police have decided they won't be putting up with it. Well the UK police have a fairly poor record when it comes to justice and Irish people in general. An organisation with a deep xenophobic history. As above, its just to silence people, God forbid they start to discuss the thousands murdered by weapons supplied by the British state and the profits made from that slaughter. Cool, go cheer for Hezbollah so " That's it. That's your lot? 🙄🥱 | |||
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"I don't agree with some of what Kneecap have said or the symbols they project. But, I'd defend their right to say it. It's just silencing those who speak out. The Israel lobbying has struggled to silence Irish people's condemnation, they even tried the old Jeremy Corbyn trick the British fell for. This and Trumps carry-on in South Africa this week are not isolated incidents, it's just a change of tact. I'll be honest, the opinions of anybody who is remotely outraged over Kneecap but silent on an ongoing genocide are irrelevant to me! Politicians or high profile individuals like that are particularly nefarious individuals. How many people have died so far in the "genocide"? 55,000 people, including over 18,000 children. But who cares, eh? Dont let it stop you cheering it on though!" So it's not a genocide then. Thanks for clearing that up. 👌 | |||
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"Awful bang of west Brit from a couple of profiles on this thread...." If not supporting Hamas, Hezbollah or Balaclava Jedward makes me a West Brit then so be it!!!!! 😂 Ouchhhhhh | |||
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" How many people have died so far in the "genocide"? 55,000 people, including over 18,000 children. But who cares, eh? Dont let it stop you cheering it on, though! So it's not a genocide then. Thanks for clearing that up. 👌 " I think it's a Thesaurus you need. As they say, if you don't know what that is, get a dictionary and work your way forward! | |||
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" How many people have died so far in the "genocide"? 55,000 people, including over 18,000 children. But who cares, eh? Dont let it stop you cheering it on, though! So it's not a genocide then. Thanks for clearing that up. 👌 I think it's a Thesaurus you need. As they say, if you don't know what that is, get a dictionary and work your way forward!" | |||
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" How many people have died so far in the "genocide"? 55,000 people, including over 18,000 children. But who cares, eh? Dont let it stop you cheering it on, though! So it's not a genocide then. Thanks for clearing that up. 👌 I think it's a Thesaurus you need. As they say, if you don't know what that is, get a dictionary and work your way forward!" As of May 2025, over 150,000 people have died in Sudan's ongoing civil war, which began in April 2023 but Israel not involved so Irelands hypocrites couldn't care less | |||
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" How many people have died so far in the "genocide"? 55,000 people, including over 18,000 children. But who cares, eh? Dont let it stop you cheering it on, though! So it's not a genocide then. Thanks for clearing that up. 👌 I think it's a Thesaurus you need. As they say, if you don't know what that is, get a dictionary and work your way forward! As of May 2025, over 150,000 people have died in Sudan's ongoing civil war, which began in April 2023 but Israel not involved so Irelands hypocrites couldn't care less " 
Can you explain what you think genocide is?
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"I don't agree with some of what Kneecap have said or the symbols they project. But, I'd defend their right to say it. It's just silencing those who speak out. The Israel lobbying has struggled to silence Irish people's condemnation, they even tried the old Jeremy Corbyn trick the British fell for. This and Trumps carry-on in South Africa this week are not isolated incidents, it's just a change of tact. I'll be honest, the opinions of anybody who is remotely outraged over Kneecap but silent on an ongoing genocide are irrelevant to me! Politicians or high profile individuals like that are particularly nefarious individuals. How many people have died so far in the "genocide"?" Found the Zionist lads. Keep your babies away as they will see them as supporters of Hamas. | |||
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" How many people have died so far in the "genocide"? 55,000 people, including over 18,000 children. But who cares, eh? Dont let it stop you cheering it on, though! So it's not a genocide then. Thanks for clearing that up. 👌 I think it's a Thesaurus you need. As they say, if you don't know what that is, get a dictionary and work your way forward! As of May 2025, over 150,000 people have died in Sudan's ongoing civil war, which began in April 2023 but Israel not involved so Irelands hypocrites couldn't care less
Can you explain what you think genocide is?
Genuine question, tbh."Genocide in 2025 is a word appropriated by Irish Virtue signallers who just follow the crowd and take the same side as their mentors in any debate. They are incapable of independent thought and a good example is the current focus on Palastine with very little thought given to conflicts elsewhere regardless of how many casualties take place. | |||
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"The British government and their agencies (psni) being wankers as usual. Waved on lad with guns and ammo in the boot of their car when stopped but wave a flag and get charged. " He was arrested by the Met so I'm unsure why the PSNi reference is relevant? | |||
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"The British government and their agencies (psni) being wankers as usual. Waved on lad with guns and ammo in the boot of their car when stopped but wave a flag and get charged. He was arrested by the Met so I'm unsure why the PSNi reference is relevant?" Psni are an example of said agencies | |||
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"The British government and their agencies (psni) being wankers as usual. Waved on lad with guns and ammo in the boot of their car when stopped but wave a flag and get charged. He was arrested by the Met so I'm unsure why the PSNi reference is relevant? I'm unsure why the Newry Co.Louth reference is relevant on your profile? Different counties, different countries. May as well say Berlin is in Poland Are you nitpicking my profile just for the sake of it? I don't recall asking for any advice regarding that. " More like I'm pointing out an issue similar to how you did to others, if you have an issue with that it shows your hypocrisy | |||
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"Awful bang of west Brit from a couple of profiles on this thread...." Spot on. For consistency I look forward to the outrage and condemnation from the same people when UVF (also deemd a proscribed terrorist organisation) flags are being gleefully flown on this very island in a few weeks. Nah, that won't be happening. And I'm not getting into arguments with individuals on the thread either, the bans are simply not worth it. | |||
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"Any artists adopting a despicable and barbaric practice as their stage name, a cruel punishment which was often perpetrated on innocent victims, in an effort by terrorists to maintain control over communities, show little respect for those maimed and traumatised by our own brand of terrorists, the leaders of whom are still hiding behind their balaclavas. 🕊 " 100% agree. I don't think many of their fans on here are even aware that the majority of victims of kneecaping by the IRA were from the Catholic community. Lots of times it was dished out for low level crimes in the community and many of the victims are unable to walk unaided. Strange name to choose. | |||
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"Do stupid things win stupid prizes if you ask me. Let's face it they aren't exactly wild stallions!!! For your prize..... let's see how your future American gigs go now" Considering they sold out gigs in America after flashing something that offended a lot of Zionists at Coachella I don't think there will be an issue | |||
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"Do stupid things win stupid prizes if you ask me. Let's face it they aren't exactly wild stallions!!! For your prize..... let's see how your future American gigs go now" Theyre not a Louis Walsh outfit looking to scrape every last cent they can They announced a gig in a London club on Oxford street yesterday evening, last minute, just 500 tickets. It sold in under a minute, thousands on the waiting list! | |||
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"While it’s true that an Irish soldier was tragically shot during peacekeeping duties, using that to attack Kneecap ignores the full picture. The band isn’t responsible for historical violence, they are artists expressing their culture and the ongoing realities of their community. Just as the soldier’s sacrifice deserves respect, so too does the right of people to tell their stories through music. Kneecap faces real struggles, and they have every right to travel and perform abroad, especially where there’s demand for their voices. Using past tragedies to silence them only deepens division and stops important conversations from happening." What real struggles do they face, all are middle class Belfast men with no memories of the troubles? The gimp in the Balaclava is a 32 year old teacher. | |||
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"The hypocritical aspect of this is that there are literally thousands of unionist paramilitary flags, UVF, UFF/UDA, Red Hand Commando LVF flying from lampposts in parts of the north, put up openly by easily identifiable people every summer, including many in shared areas where no flags are allowed yet nobody has ever been charged. 11th night bonfires regularly burn effigies of politicians perceived as being the enemy, as well as election posters and flags of various nations, including the Ivory Coast. Fair enough, charge Liam with an offence if one has been committed but don't act like a blind eye hasn't been turned to all of the others supporting still active terrorist groups. " Absolutely spot on | |||
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"The hypocritical aspect of this is that there are literally thousands of unionist paramilitary flags, UVF, UFF/UDA, Red Hand Commando LVF flying from lampposts in parts of the north, put up openly by easily identifiable people every summer, including many in shared areas where no flags are allowed yet nobody has ever been charged. 11th night bonfires regularly burn effigies of politicians perceived as being the enemy, as well as election posters and flags of various nations, including the Ivory Coast. Fair enough, charge Liam with an offence if one has been committed but don't act like a blind eye hasn't been turned to all of the others supporting still active terrorist groups. " The reason is simple, your average British person and particularly your average British politician have absolutely no interest, whatsoever, in Northern Ireland. The only reason they are "outraged" about this is that Kneecap play to sold out shows across the UK and secondly, they've been lobbied from the US after their sold our gigs over there. It is at these shows they raise legitimate issues of what western states are aiding and abetting, they're bringing attention to it, which has to be silenced. If they just stayed playing Derry and Belfast the British government would not care at all. | |||
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"The hypocritical aspect of this is that there are literally thousands of unionist paramilitary flags, UVF, UFF/UDA, Red Hand Commando LVF flying from lampposts in parts of the north, put up openly by easily identifiable people every summer, including many in shared areas where no flags are allowed yet nobody has ever been charged. 11th night bonfires regularly burn effigies of politicians perceived as being the enemy, as well as election posters and flags of various nations, including the Ivory Coast. Fair enough, charge Liam with an offence if one has been committed but don't act like a blind eye hasn't been turned to all of the others supporting still active terrorist groups. The reason is simple, your average British person and particularly your average British politician have absolutely no interest, whatsoever, in Northern Ireland. The only reason they are "outraged" about this is that Kneecap play to sold out shows across the UK and secondly, they've been lobbied from the US after their sold our gigs over there. It is at these shows they raise legitimate issues of what western states are aiding and abetting, they're bringing attention to it, which has to be silenced. If they just stayed playing Derry and Belfast the British government would not care at all." I didn't want to get involved in this discussion. But I 100% agree with this | |||
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"The British government and their agencies (psni) being wankers as usual. Waved on lad with guns and ammo in the boot of their car when stopped but wave a flag and get charged. Literally nothing to do with PSNI "As I've already stated psni was an example of government agencies 🙄 | |||
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"The British government and their agencies (psni) being wankers as usual. Waved on lad with guns and ammo in the boot of their car when stopped but wave a flag and get charged. Literally nothing to do with PSNI
As I've already stated psni was an example of government agencies 🙄"Yet you followed up "psni" with an (erroneous) anecdote of something that happened in Belfast. You made an assumption that it was PSNI who charged kneecap and you were wrong. That noise we can all hear is you desperately scrambling back
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"Probably won’t hear a thing about them in a years time! But maybe I’ll stand corrected in the future. Probably would have been best if they had concentrated on their own careers at this early stage " West Brit | |||
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"The British government and their agencies (psni) being wankers as usual. Waved on lad with guns and ammo in the boot of their car when stopped but wave a flag and get charged. Literally nothing to do with PSNI
As I've already stated psni was an example of government agencies 🙄
Yet you followed up "psni" with an (erroneous) anecdote of something that happened in Belfast.
You made an assumption that it was PSNI who charged kneecap and you were wrong.
That noise we can all hear is you desperately scrambling back
For what it's worth, it's a BS charge that should never see a court room, I dint understand how it passes the public interest test. "i never who charged them and if you think that what described only happens in the north you are sorely mistaken. As for scrambling you can think what you like. It's really of no consequences to us. | |||
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"The British government and their agencies (psni) being wankers as usual. Waved on lad with guns and ammo in the boot of their car when stopped but wave a flag and get charged. Literally nothing to do with PSNI
As I've already stated psni was an example of government agencies 🙄
Yet you followed up "psni" with an (erroneous) anecdote of something that happened in Belfast.
You made an assumption that it was PSNI who charged kneecap and you were wrong.
That noise we can all hear is you desperately scrambling back
For what it's worth, it's a BS charge that should never see a court room, I dint understand how it passes the public interest test. "You are wasting your time, insane levels of ignorance in this thread. Most don't even know who charged him and why and who Hezbollah are yet here they are waffling away | |||
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"As an ex soldier who served in that part of the world on 5 occasions and has been shot at by Hezbollah on many occasions raising that flag is as bad as waving an ISIS one they are mostly the same organization religious radical terrorists with no regard for anything they can’t use to their advantage from western countries. I don’t listen to kneecaps music or like how they hijack the Irish flag to make money especially in the US and call it art however the fundamental issue here is the slaughter of Palestine and it’s people in the region there is a way for them to raise that issue but that’s not it. Supporting one terrorist organization to defeat another just takes you back to 1948 and start all over again. I would put a rat emoji on here but freedom of speech only allows you the freedom the establishment allows "How do they “hijack the Irish flag” being Irish men? They make money from the Irish flag? Or being Irish and vocal about what they’ve seen from growing up in the north or the history of Ireland? | |||
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"The British government and their agencies (psni) being wankers as usual. Waved on lad with guns and ammo in the boot of their car when stopped but wave a flag and get charged. Literally nothing to do with PSNI
As I've already stated psni was an example of government agencies 🙄
Yet you followed up "psni" with an (erroneous) anecdote of something that happened in Belfast.
You made an assumption that it was PSNI who charged kneecap and you were wrong.
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For what it's worth, it's a BS charge that should never see a court room, I dint understand how it passes the public interest test.
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"A vast number of people seem to have forgotten or have ignored what Mo Chara actually said in the 02 Arena in November 2024......He actually said "Up Hamas" "Up Hezbollah" while draped in a Hezbollah flag & He also said "The only good Tory is a dead Tory. Kill your local MP" that's a step too far IMHO. Also have people forgotten or do they realise what the extreme terrorist group Hamas actually did in Israel on October 7th 2023, (very extreme brutal sadistic evil crimes) way too gruesome to mention here. The media keep 'shouting' on many social network platforms all Mo Chara said was "Free Palestine" when in actual fact his words were way more. sinister. " The charge doesn't relate to that incident as there's no proof he actually said those words The words were said and played over the P.A but you couldn't see him say them so I'd imagine the police are still investigating that | |||
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"A vast number of people seem to have forgotten or have ignored what Mo Chara actually said in the 02 Arena in November 2024......He actually said "Up Hamas" "Up Hezbollah" while draped in a Hezbollah flag & He also said "The only good Tory is a dead Tory. Kill your local MP" that's a step too far IMHO. Also have people forgotten or do they realise what the extreme terrorist group Hamas actually did in Israel on October 7th 2023, (very extreme brutal sadistic evil crimes) way too gruesome to mention here. The media keep 'shouting' on many social network platforms all Mo Chara said was "Free Palestine" when in actual fact his words were way more. sinister. " | |||
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"A vast number of people seem to have forgotten or have ignored what Mo Chara actually said in the 02 Arena in November 2024......He actually said "Up Hamas" "Up Hezbollah" while draped in a Hezbollah flag & He also said "The only good Tory is a dead Tory. Kill your local MP" that's a step too far IMHO. Also have people forgotten or do they realise what the extreme terrorist group Hamas actually did in Israel on October 7th 2023, (very extreme brutal sadistic evil crimes) way too gruesome to mention here. The media keep 'shouting' on many social network platforms all Mo Chara said was "Free Palestine" when in actual fact his words were way more. sinister. The charge doesn't relate to that incident as there's no proof he actually said those words The words were said and played over the P.A but you couldn't see him say them so I'd imagine the police are still investigating that " Oh ok, Thanks for that info, I thought those words Mo Chara spoke (as I mentioned previously) were in relation to the charge | |||
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"The British government and their agencies (psni) being wankers as usual. Waved on lad with guns and ammo in the boot of their car when stopped but wave a flag and get charged. He was arrested by the Met so I'm unsure why the PSNi reference is relevant? Psni are an example of said agencies " Never let the truth get in the way  | |||
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"While it’s true that an Irish soldier was tragically shot during peacekeeping duties, using that to attack Kneecap ignores the full picture. The band isn’t responsible for historical violence, they are artists expressing their culture and the ongoing realities of their community. Just as the soldier’s sacrifice deserves respect, so too does the right of people to tell their stories through music. Kneecap faces real struggles, and they have every right to travel and perform abroad, especially where there’s demand for their voices. Using past tragedies to silence them only deepens division and stops important conversations from happening. What real struggles do they face, all are middle class Belfast men with no memories of the troubles? The gimp in the Balaclava is a 32 year old teacher. " So because they have have, as you imply, "no memories of the troubles", they weren't affected by them?? Sweeping fuck×n statement there.. | |||
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"As far as I know ( and I could be completely wrong ) there's a protest march every Saturday in London in support of the Palestinian people Lots of Palestinian flags flown but also some Hamas flags Because this is Ireland, they have been charged for displaying it in the UK I don't think anyone has been arrested at the march for flying the Hamas flag " | |||
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"I'm going to see them in December. Mainly out of curiosity and I do really like their music having had to listen to it while at work. I certainly don't agree with alot of their statements but it's been shouted on the streets in England and Ireland for the last few yrs about Palestine and nobody charged. As for the anti English stuff,I don't like it at all ,but then again I'm not from the North so I can't comment but I do personally think it should be left in the past. What I do like is their energy, it reminds me of been young and listening to Sex Pistols and Stiff Little Fingers with my mates and feeling rebellious. " Neither of those bands applied for funding from the UK tax payer | |||
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" How many people have died so far in the "genocide"? First time we’ve been compelled to Block someone for inverted commas." Stunning and brave 👏 😂 | |||
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"It's the flegs.....whats the difference between them and the Wolfe Tones singing "up The Ra" I dislike both bands Have we not moved on from " The Brits " " Still 6 counties illegally occupied, how can a country move on | |||
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"I'm going to see them in December. Mainly out of curiosity and I do really like their music having had to listen to it while at work. I certainly don't agree with alot of their statements but it's been shouted on the streets in England and Ireland for the last few yrs about Palestine and nobody charged. As for the anti English stuff,I don't like it at all ,but then again I'm not from the North so I can't comment but I do personally think it should be left in the past. What I do like is their energy, it reminds me of been young and listening to Sex Pistols and Stiff Little Fingers with my mates and feeling rebellious. Neither of those bands applied for funding from the UK tax payer" What did they do with the funding they were awarded?? | |||
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"I'm going to see them in December. Mainly out of curiosity and I do really like their music having had to listen to it while at work. I certainly don't agree with alot of their statements but it's been shouted on the streets in England and Ireland for the last few yrs about Palestine and nobody charged. As for the anti English stuff,I don't like it at all ,but then again I'm not from the North so I can't comment but I do personally think it should be left in the past. What I do like is their energy, it reminds me of been young and listening to Sex Pistols and Stiff Little Fingers with my mates and feeling rebellious. Neither of those bands applied for funding from the UK tax payer What did they do with the funding they were awarded??" Gave it away to 2 youth organisations from both sides of the divide in the north. Also gave the proceeds from last night gig to medecins sans frontieres | |||
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"The amount of people losing their shit about Kneecap whilst not losing their shit about the genocide that Israel is committing." Isn’t it linked? I’m sure the majority of people on this forum speaking up for Kneecap are sick to the stomach of the genocide in Gaza… it’s f*ckong depressing…. | |||
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"The hypocritical aspect of this is that there are literally thousands of unionist paramilitary flags, UVF, UFF/UDA, Red Hand Commando LVF flying from lampposts in parts of the north, put up openly by easily identifiable people every summer, including many in shared areas where no flags are allowed yet nobody has ever been charged. Couldn’t have put it better myself and shocking how anyone can see otherwise unless they’re south of the border and oblivious to it all 11th night bonfires regularly burn effigies of politicians perceived as being the enemy, as well as election posters and flags of various nations, including the Ivory Coast. Fair enough, charge Liam with an offence if one has been committed but don't act like a blind eye hasn't been turned to all of the others supporting still active terrorist groups. " | |||
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"When everyone looks back at the Genocide in Gaza and everyone tripping over themselves in hindsight to say it was a disgrace everyone will know who really spoke out and who is on the right side of history…. This is a smear and targeted and I suspect influenced by a very influential lobby across the UK media and the US……. Kneecap should be supported and backed….. " Hear, hear. Know where you stand people | |||
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"But medecins sans frontieres are working in sudan, to whom kneecap have donated all the proceeds from their most recent gig" Despite twice as many deaths in Sudan in the same period Kneecap or many of their supporters here never mention it or even think about it. This is for a few simple reasons . There are no Jews, Brits or Americans involved. Its not 'the current thing" and just not cool enough The mainly left wing media focus on Gaza and Ignore Sudan so naturally the sheep will follow. Obviously not all victims are equal. | |||
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"Caring about Gaza doesn’t mean ignoring Sudan. Most people simply respond to what’s visible Gaza is in the headlines, Sudan sadly isn’t. That’s a failure of media reach, not public morality. To say people only care because Jews, Brits, or Americans are involved is a cheap and baseless jab. Real compassion doesn’t rank victims,it fights for all of them." The media are at fault for allowing journalism to turn into activism but I don't believe for one minute that ordinary people on here who support Kneecap and are outraged about Gaza will ever show any of that type of concern for the situation in the Sudan. | |||
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"But medecins sans frontieres are working in sudan, to whom kneecap have donated all the proceeds from their most recent gig Despite twice as many deaths in Sudan in the same period Kneecap or many of their supporters here never mention it or even think about it. This is for a few simple reasons . There are no Jews, Brits or Americans involved. Its not 'the current thing" and just not cool enough The mainly left wing media focus on Gaza and Ignore Sudan so naturally the sheep will follow. Obviously not all victims are equal. " Of cousre all victims arent eqaul. One isreali hostage for 100s of palestinian hostages has been the norm. All hostages on both sides should be released immediately. Hamas are kunts. Idf are kunts. But the brits charging kneecap for flying a flag when there will be hundreds of quearionable flags flown in a few weeks while a sizeable portion of one side of the community legs it for a few days. Gimme a break. | |||
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"Anyone else see Kneecap are being charged for terrorism? The Brits are at it again with their hypocrisy " Where is the hypocrisy? They flew the flag of a proscribed terrorist group. They shouted 'Up Hamas' and 'Up Hezbollah' on stage. There is a reason these groups are proscribed, and like it or not, that is the law. Being charged for supporting a terrorist group is what happens when you don't think your speech has consequences. | |||
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"As an ex soldier who served in that part of the world on 5 occasions and has been shot at by Hezbollah on many occasions raising that flag is as bad as waving an ISIS one they are mostly the same organization religious radical terrorists with no regard for anything they can’t use to their advantage from western countries. I don’t listen to kneecaps music or like how they hijack the Irish flag to make money especially in the US and call it art however the fundamental issue here is the slaughter of Palestine and it’s people in the region there is a way for them to raise that issue but that’s not it. Supporting one terrorist organization to defeat another just takes you back to 1948 and start all over again. I would put a rat emoji on here but freedom of speech only allows you the freedom the establishment allows
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"Anyone else see Kneecap are being charged for terrorism? The Brits are at it again with their hypocrisy Where is the hypocrisy? They flew the flag of a proscribed terrorist group. They shouted 'Up Hamas' and 'Up Hezbollah' on stage. There is a reason these groups are proscribed, and like it or not, that is the law. Being charged for supporting a terrorist group is what happens when you don't think your speech has consequences. " In less than 2 months the orange order will be having a right good march around the place which is fsir enough. Also the flags of several groups which are listed in the uk as terrorist organisations will be flown proudly. Will the powers that be be charging loyalists with supporting terrorism? Will they charge the people burning irish flags and effegies or irish men and women with inciting hatred. No, because its not an isreali who is offened, its just paddy. Theres your hypocracy. | |||
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"It’s telling how easily some people equate cultural resistance with terrorism, yet remain blind to the violence committed by states they defend without question. Kneecap doesn’t glorify terrorism, they reflect a lived reality in the North, shaped by decades of occupation, discrimination, and brutality. Their art unsettles people precisely because it speaks uncomfortable truths. Waving a flag or chanting a slogan is provocative, yes but not criminal in a land that claims to value free speech. Maybe it’s easier for some to clutch their pearls about a rap group than confront the legacy of British colonialism or their own selective outrage. Here you go, harping on about 'oppression' of the Irish. Don't you think Brits have had their fair share of injustice and strife? These young spunkers Kneecap weren't even born in The Troubles, yet their toxic outpourings risks stoking violence again. Is that what you want? It's just going back to division, and before we know it the Loyalists will respond - as they did last time. Just move on FFS." injustice and strife? For the Brits? Are you actually having a laugh, The British have cause the most atrocities in the world with the colonialism, Ireland and India been the prime examples of those atrocities, Kneecap might'nt have lived threw the troubles, But they are well educated individuals. And have more balls than most. | |||
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"It’s telling how easily some people equate cultural resistance with terrorism, yet remain blind to the violence committed by states they defend without question. Kneecap doesn’t glorify terrorism, they reflect a lived reality in the North, shaped by decades of occupation, discrimination, and brutality. Their art unsettles people precisely because it speaks uncomfortable truths. Waving a flag or chanting a slogan is provocative, yes but not criminal in a land that claims to value free speech. Maybe it’s easier for some to clutch their pearls about a rap group than confront the legacy of British colonialism or their own selective outrage. Here you go, harping on about 'oppression' of the Irish. Don't you think Brits have had their fair share of injustice and strife? These young spunkers Kneecap weren't even born in The Troubles, yet their toxic outpourings risks stoking violence again. Is that what you want? It's just going back to division, and before we know it the Loyalists will respond - as they did last time. Just move on FFS. injustice and strife? For the Brits? Are you actually having a laugh, The British have cause the most atrocities in the world with the colonialism, Ireland and India been the prime examples of those atrocities, Kneecap might'nt have lived threw the troubles, But they are well educated individuals. And have more balls than most. " Look it's easy for Ireland to sit on their hands pronouncing sagely on world atrocities. But where's your contribution to military deterrence? It's even the bogeyman UK defending your island and the Atlantic seaboard. | |||
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"It’s telling how easily some people equate cultural resistance with terrorism, yet remain blind to the violence committed by states they defend without question. Kneecap doesn’t glorify terrorism, they reflect a lived reality in the North, shaped by decades of occupation, discrimination, and brutality. Their art unsettles people precisely because it speaks uncomfortable truths. Waving a flag or chanting a slogan is provocative, yes but not criminal in a land that claims to value free speech. Maybe it’s easier for some to clutch their pearls about a rap group than confront the legacy of British colonialism or their own selective outrage. Here you go, harping on about 'oppression' of the Irish. Don't you think Brits have had their fair share of injustice and strife? These young spunkers Kneecap weren't even born in The Troubles, yet their toxic outpourings risks stoking violence again. Is that what you want? It's just going back to division, and before we know it the Loyalists will respond - as they did last time. Just move on FFS. injustice and strife? For the Brits? Are you actually having a laugh, The British have cause the most atrocities in the world with the colonialism, Ireland and India been the prime examples of those atrocities, Kneecap might'nt have lived threw the troubles, But they are well educated individuals. And have more balls than most. Look it's easy for Ireland to sit on their hands pronouncing sagely on world atrocities. But where's your contribution to military deterrence? It's even the bogeyman UK defending your island and the Atlantic seaboard." Totally avoiding my point, you crying out about British injustice and strife, explain how? Ireland are neutral have been for decades, and probably more so for the genocide the British cause here, wiping out more than half our population | |||
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"It’s telling how easily some people equate cultural resistance with terrorism, yet remain blind to the violence committed by states they defend without question. Kneecap doesn’t glorify terrorism, they reflect a lived reality in the North, shaped by decades of occupation, discrimination, and brutality. Their art unsettles people precisely because it speaks uncomfortable truths. Waving a flag or chanting a slogan is provocative, yes but not criminal in a land that claims to value free speech. Maybe it’s easier for some to clutch their pearls about a rap group than confront the legacy of British colonialism or their own selective outrage. Here you go, harping on about 'oppression' of the Irish. Don't you think Brits have had their fair share of injustice and strife? These young spunkers Kneecap weren't even born in The Troubles, yet their toxic outpourings risks stoking violence again. Is that what you want? It's just going back to division, and before we know it the Loyalists will respond - as they did last time. Just move on FFS. injustice and strife? For the Brits? Are you actually having a laugh, The British have cause the most atrocities in the world with the colonialism, Ireland and India been the prime examples of those atrocities, Kneecap might'nt have lived threw the troubles, But they are well educated individuals. And have more balls than most. Look it's easy for Ireland to sit on their hands pronouncing sagely on world atrocities. But where's your contribution to military deterrence? It's even the bogeyman UK defending your island and the Atlantic seaboard. Totally avoiding my point, you crying out about British injustice and strife, explain how? Ireland are neutral have been for decades, and probably more so for the genocide the British cause here, wiping out more than half our population " Britain didn't wipe out half the Irish population. It was a pan European potato famine cause by a blight. Yes, it's great to have the luxury of neutrality when your neighbour is doing the heavy lifting!! | |||
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"Britain didn't wipe out half the Irish population. It was a pan European potato famine cause by a blight. Yes, it's great to have the luxury of neutrality when your neighbour is doing the heavy lifting!!" Great to see that anti Irish sentiment alive and well in the UK. What an arrogant response. Read your own history and come back with an informed response | |||
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"Anyone else see Kneecap are being charged for terrorism? The Brits are at it again with their hypocrisy The charge of hypocrisy a bit rich from Irish nationalists. If a Loyalist rap band from the Shankhill Road were spewing out sectarian hate in 2025, the Irish would be spitting feathers and crying to the EU." Did I miss your condemnation of a loyalist band playing a sectarian song about the Pope after his death. Your one-sidedness is blinding. | |||
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"It’s telling how easily some people equate cultural resistance with terrorism, yet remain blind to the violence committed by states they defend without question. Kneecap doesn’t glorify terrorism, they reflect a lived reality in the North, shaped by decades of occupation, discrimination, and brutality. Their art unsettles people precisely because it speaks uncomfortable truths. Waving a flag or chanting a slogan is provocative, yes but not criminal in a land that claims to value free speech. Maybe it’s easier for some to clutch their pearls about a rap group than confront the legacy of British colonialism or their own selective outrage. Here you go, harping on about 'oppression' of the Irish. Don't you think Brits have had their fair share of injustice and strife? These young spunkers Kneecap weren't even born in The Troubles, yet their toxic outpourings risks stoking violence again. Is that what you want? It's just going back to division, and before we know it the Loyalists will respond - as they did last time. Just move on FFS. injustice and strife? For the Brits? Are you actually having a laugh, The British have cause the most atrocities in the world with the colonialism, Ireland and India been the prime examples of those atrocities, Kneecap might'nt have lived threw the troubles, But they are well educated individuals. And have more balls than most. Look it's easy for Ireland to sit on their hands pronouncing sagely on world atrocities. But where's your contribution to military deterrence? It's even the bogeyman UK defending your island and the Atlantic seaboard. Totally avoiding my point, you crying out about British injustice and strife, explain how? Ireland are neutral have been for decades, and probably more so for the genocide the British cause here, wiping out more than half our population Britain didn't wipe out half the Irish population. It was a pan European potato famine cause by a blight. Yes, it's great to have the luxury of neutrality when your neighbour is doing the heavy lifting!!" Best thing you should do now is read some proper history books, Ireland had loads of food during the so called famine, but the British exported it all to British and else where. Yes the potato crops failed, but the rest didn't. So yes the genocide caused by the British could well have been avoided. The British and the US and Israel are the biggest terrorists In the world | |||
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"Seems to be some confusion on this thread. One member of Kneecap has been charged with a terror offence related to their support for Hezbollah, so nothing to do with Ireland or Irish history if we could stick to the facts." Kneecap are Irish. Go learn some proper history, history that they don't teach ye in schools. Cause ye are ashamed of it. | |||
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"Seems to be some confusion on this thread. One member of Kneecap has been charged with a terror offence related to their support for Hezbollah, so nothing to do with Ireland or Irish history if we could stick to the facts. Kneecap are Irish. Go learn some proper history, history that they don't teach ye in schools. Cause ye are ashamed of it. " Wtf are you on about. If you think Hezbollah are Irish I think you need to go back to school ! | |||
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"It’s telling how easily some people equate cultural resistance with terrorism, yet remain blind to the violence committed by states they defend without question. Kneecap doesn’t glorify terrorism, they reflect a lived reality in the North, shaped by decades of occupation, discrimination, and brutality. Their art unsettles people precisely because it speaks uncomfortable truths. Waving a flag or chanting a slogan is provocative, yes but not criminal in a land that claims to value free speech. Maybe it’s easier for some to clutch their pearls about a rap group than confront the legacy of British colonialism or their own selective outrage. Here you go, harping on about 'oppression' of the Irish. Don't you think Brits have had their fair share of injustice and strife? These young spunkers Kneecap weren't even born in The Troubles, yet their toxic outpourings risks stoking violence again. Is that what you want? It's just going back to division, and before we know it the Loyalists will respond - as they did last time. Just move on FFS. injustice and strife? For the Brits? Are you actually having a laugh, The British have cause the most atrocities in the world with the colonialism, Ireland and India been the prime examples of those atrocities, Kneecap might'nt have lived threw the troubles, But they are well educated individuals. And have more balls than most. Look it's easy for Ireland to sit on their hands pronouncing sagely on world atrocities. But where's your contribution to military deterrence? It's even the bogeyman UK defending your island and the Atlantic seaboard. Totally avoiding my point, you crying out about British injustice and strife, explain how? Ireland are neutral have been for decades, and probably more so for the genocide the British cause here, wiping out more than half our population Britain didn't wipe out half the Irish population. It was a pan European potato famine cause by a blight. Yes, it's great to have the luxury of neutrality when your neighbour is doing the heavy lifting!! Best thing you should do now is read some proper history books, Ireland had loads of food during the so called famine, but the British exported it all to British and else where. Yes the potato crops failed, but the rest didn't. So yes the genocide caused by the British could well have been avoided. The British and the US and Israel are the biggest terrorists In the world" 'Proper' history books?? What the Irish state versions? As for terrorists you have Sinn Fein on 20% of the national vote. Mr Kettle meet Mr Pot. | |||
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"Ah, so when history doesn’t suit your narrative, it’s ‘state propaganda’? Convenient. But history wasn’t written in Dublin offices, it was carved into our soil by centuries of struggle, betrayal, and sacrifice. You cry ‘terrorist’ with the same breath that excuses British atrocities and loyalist murder gangs what gall. And Sinn Féin? A fifth of the country voting for them doesn’t rewrite the past; it only shows how deep the wounds still run. So before you go flinging kettles and pots, make damn sure your own hands aren’t black with the soot of imperial amnesia." The wounds run deep because you are bitter and twisted and won't let go of the past. Look, how do you expect to assimilate 1 mil. loyalists into a united Ireland with attitudes like yours? | |||
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"Ah, so when history doesn’t suit your narrative, it’s ‘state propaganda’? Convenient. But history wasn’t written in Dublin offices, it was carved into our soil by centuries of struggle, betrayal, and sacrifice. You cry ‘terrorist’ with the same breath that excuses British atrocities and loyalist murder gangs what gall. And Sinn Féin? A fifth of the country voting for them doesn’t rewrite the past; it only shows how deep the wounds still run. So before you go flinging kettles and pots, make damn sure your own hands aren’t black with the soot of imperial amnesia. The wounds run deep because you are bitter and twisted and won't let go of the past. Look, how do you expect to assimilate 1 mil. loyalists into a united Ireland with attitudes like yours?" Again you seem confused. There aren't 1 million loyalists in NI | |||
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"It’s telling how easily some people equate cultural resistance with terrorism, yet remain blind to the violence committed by states they defend without question. Kneecap doesn’t glorify terrorism, they reflect a lived reality in the North, shaped by decades of occupation, discrimination, and brutality. Their art unsettles people precisely because it speaks uncomfortable truths. Waving a flag or chanting a slogan is provocative, yes but not criminal in a land that claims to value free speech. Maybe it’s easier for some to clutch their pearls about a rap group than confront the legacy of British colonialism or their own selective outrage. Here you go, harping on about 'oppression' of the Irish. Don't you think Brits have had their fair share of injustice and strife? These young spunkers Kneecap weren't even born in The Troubles, yet their toxic outpourings risks stoking violence again. Is that what you want? It's just going back to division, and before we know it the Loyalists will respond - as they did last time. Just move on FFS. injustice and strife? For the Brits? Are you actually having a laugh, The British have cause the most atrocities in the world with the colonialism, Ireland and India been the prime examples of those atrocities, Kneecap might'nt have lived threw the troubles, But they are well educated individuals. And have more balls than most. Look it's easy for Ireland to sit on their hands pronouncing sagely on world atrocities. But where's your contribution to military deterrence? It's even the bogeyman UK defending your island and the Atlantic seaboard. Totally avoiding my point, you crying out about British injustice and strife, explain how? Ireland are neutral have been for decades, and probably more so for the genocide the British cause here, wiping out more than half our population Britain didn't wipe out half the Irish population. It was a pan European potato famine cause by a blight. Yes, it's great to have the luxury of neutrality when your neighbour is doing the heavy lifting!! Best thing you should do now is read some proper history books, Ireland had loads of food during the so called famine, but the British exported it all to British and else where. Yes the potato crops failed, but the rest didn't. So yes the genocide caused by the British could well have been avoided. The British and the US and Israel are the biggest terrorists In the world 'Proper' history books?? What the Irish state versions? As for terrorists you have Sinn Fein on 20% of the national vote. Mr Kettle meet Mr Pot." You should read more widely then. And don't forget bloody Sunday took place at the hands of the British state. Get some balance here will you | |||
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"You speak of bitterness, but it is not bitterness that drives us, it is memory, and the hope of a better future. A united Ireland cannot be built on dominance or forgetting; it must be founded on respect, consent, and shared belonging. One million loyalists are not our enemies, they are our neighbours, and any future worth having must include them, not in spite, but in partnership. Let us not argue from old trenches, but walk together toward a common home." Love this | |||
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"All I'll say at this stage is Kneecap have become more famous or maybe the word is infamous after all the controversy about their contraversial & inappropriate words & on stage behaviour & they're loving all the attention. " What have they said that’s controversial. They’ve called Israel cunts which is what the world is thinking but too afraid to say. | |||
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"All I'll say at this stage is Kneecap have become more famous or maybe the word is infamous after all the controversy about their contraversial & inappropriate words & on stage behaviour & they're loving all the attention. What have they said that’s controversial. They’ve called Israel cunts which is what the world is thinking but too afraid to say. " "Up Hamas" "Up Hezbollah" "The Only Good Tory Is A Dead Tory, Kill Your Local MPs" didn't you not know that. Many young & not so young are influenced & will be influenced by Kneecap. | |||
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"All I'll say at this stage is Kneecap have become more famous or maybe the word is infamous after all the controversy about their contraversial & inappropriate words & on stage behaviour & they're loving all the attention. What have they said that’s controversial. They’ve called Israel cunts which is what the world is thinking but too afraid to say. "Up Hamas" "Up Hezbollah" "The Only Good Tory Is A Dead Tory, Kill Your Local MPs" didn't you not know that. Many young & not so young are influenced & will be influenced by Kneecap. " Salman Rushdie’d attacker Hadi Matar, said he was motivated to attack Rushdie by a 2006 speech in which the leader of the militant group Hezbollah endorsed a decades-old fatwa, or edict, calling for Rushdie’s death. Do kneecap endorse the blinding of Rushdie ? | |||
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" Salman Rushdie’d attacker Hadi Matar, said he was motivated to attack Rushdie by a 2006 speech in which the leader of the militant group Hezbollah endorsed a decades-old fatwa, or edict, calling for Rushdie’s death. Do kneecap endorse the blinding of Rushdie ? " They wouldn't know and don't care. They probably don't hate gay people, atheist non-believers or polytheistic Hindus either. Like Queers for Palestine. All they know is that these are anti-Israel terrorist groups, whom they see as plucky resistance against a coloniser. Their hearts probably started in the right place, but ended up in the wrong place. | |||
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"All I'll say at this stage is Kneecap have become more famous or maybe the word is infamous after all the controversy about their contraversial & inappropriate words & on stage behaviour & they're loving all the attention. What have they said that’s controversial. They’ve called Israel cunts which is what the world is thinking but too afraid to say. "Up Hamas" "Up Hezbollah" "The Only Good Tory Is A Dead Tory, Kill Your Local MPs" didn't you not know that. Many young & not so young are influenced & will be influenced by Kneecap. " But but sure Hamas and Hezbollah have a right to defend themselves is well like Israel don't they | |||
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"All I'll say at this stage is Kneecap have become more famous or maybe the word is infamous after all the controversy about their contraversial & inappropriate words & on stage behaviour & they're loving all the attention. What have they said that’s controversial. They’ve called Israel cunts which is what the world is thinking but too afraid to say. "Up Hamas" "Up Hezbollah" "The Only Good Tory Is A Dead Tory, Kill Your Local MPs" didn't you not know that. Many young & not so young are influenced & will be influenced by Kneecap. But but sure Hamas and Hezbollah have a right to defend themselves is well like Israel don't they Hamas started it on October 7th 2023 by attacking Israel, Israel obviously were going to & did retaliate & continue to do so but have gone too far, 2 wrongs don't make a right. This didn’t start in 2023" It Actually Did........ "On October 7, 2023, Hamas and several other Palestinian militant groups launched coordinated armed incursions from the Gaza Strip into the Gaza envelope of southern Israel, the first invasion of Israeli territory since the 1948 Arab–Israeli War." | |||
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"All I'll say at this stage is Kneecap have become more famous or maybe the word is infamous after all the controversy about their contraversial & inappropriate words & on stage behaviour & they're loving all the attention. What have they said that’s controversial. They’ve called Israel cunts which is what the world is thinking but too afraid to say. "Up Hamas" "Up Hezbollah" "The Only Good Tory Is A Dead Tory, Kill Your Local MPs" didn't you not know that. Many young & not so young are influenced & will be influenced by Kneecap. But but sure Hamas and Hezbollah have a right to defend themselves is well like Israel don't they Hamas started it on October 7th 2023 by attacking Israel, Israel obviously were going to & did retaliate & continue to do so but have gone too far, 2 wrongs don't make a right. This didn’t start in 2023 It Actually Did........ "On October 7, 2023, Hamas and several other Palestinian militant groups launched coordinated armed incursions from the Gaza Strip into the Gaza envelope of southern Israel, the first invasion of Israeli territory since the 1948 Arab–Israeli War."" Would you like to buy some magic beans? | |||
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"So while British military control ended in 1948, the legacy of their involvement has shaped a conflict now over 100 years in the making" While true, there were still violent attacks on Zionist Jews prior to this time. The attack on Petah Tikva 1886 and the killing of Moshe Barsky in 1913 are just a couple of examples. | |||
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"All I'll say at this stage is Kneecap have become more famous or maybe the word is infamous after all the controversy about their contraversial & inappropriate words & on stage behaviour & they're loving all the attention. What have they said that’s controversial. They’ve called Israel cunts which is what the world is thinking but too afraid to say. "Up Hamas" "Up Hezbollah" "The Only Good Tory Is A Dead Tory, Kill Your Local MPs" didn't you not know that. Many young & not so young are influenced & will be influenced by Kneecap. But but sure Hamas and Hezbollah have a right to defend themselves is well like Israel don't they Hamas started it on October 7th 2023 by attacking Israel, Israel obviously were going to & did retaliate & continue to do so but have gone too far, 2 wrongs don't make a right. This didn’t start in 2023" If you excuse or downplay recent atrocities by pointing to actions of the past, you’re not supporting a resolution to the conflict in the here and now, you’re adding fuel to it. This is the mindset that traps people into endless retaliation. | |||
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"All I'll say at this stage is Kneecap have become more famous or maybe the word is infamous after all the controversy about their contraversial & inappropriate words & on stage behaviour & they're loving all the attention. What have they said that’s controversial. They’ve called Israel cunts which is what the world is thinking but too afraid to say. "Up Hamas" "Up Hezbollah" "The Only Good Tory Is A Dead Tory, Kill Your Local MPs" didn't you not know that. Many young & not so young are influenced & will be influenced by Kneecap. But but sure Hamas and Hezbollah have a right to defend themselves is well like Israel don't they Hamas started it on October 7th 2023 by attacking Israel, Israel obviously were going to & did retaliate & continue to do so but have gone too far, 2 wrongs don't make a right. This didn’t start in 2023 If you excuse or downplay recent atrocities by pointing to actions of the past, you’re not supporting a resolution to the conflict in the here and now, you’re adding fuel to it. This is the mindset that traps people into endless retaliation." No, I’m pointing out that it’s naive to think that this started in October 2023. When was the last time there was a calendar year without fighting between Israel and Palestine? | |||
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"All I'll say at this stage is Kneecap have become more famous or maybe the word is infamous after all the controversy about their contraversial & inappropriate words & on stage behaviour & they're loving all the attention. What have they said that’s controversial. They’ve called Israel cunts which is what the world is thinking but too afraid to say. "Up Hamas" "Up Hezbollah" "The Only Good Tory Is A Dead Tory, Kill Your Local MPs" didn't you not know that. Many young & not so young are influenced & will be influenced by Kneecap. But but sure Hamas and Hezbollah have a right to defend themselves is well like Israel don't they Hamas started it on October 7th 2023 by attacking Israel, Israel obviously were going to & did retaliate & continue to do so but have gone too far, 2 wrongs don't make a right. This didn’t start in 2023 If you excuse or downplay recent atrocities by pointing to actions of the past, you’re not supporting a resolution to the conflict in the here and now, you’re adding fuel to it. This is the mindset that traps people into endless retaliation. No, I’m pointing out that it’s naive to think that this started in October 2023. When was the last time there was a calendar year without fighting between Israel and Palestine? " There are many issues and conflicts that go back thousands of years in this area, however this war and the actions of Israel and Hamas are a result of October 7th. As I mentioned, to wrap it up in a blanket of it has been going on for years, they are always fighting, removes the seriousness of the relevant actions and supplies an excuse. This however is going off topic slightly, the group broke UK law and will answer for that in court. | |||
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"the group broke UK law and will answer for that in court. " And this should be the accepted base line for those who do, yet once again as we see with some people and even some of those in foreign governments in relation to the riots after Southport tribalism and whataboutery comes to the fore.. Yes it's right we look back in an honest and objective manner at the wrongs all empires historically carried out but it's not an excuse to use that now to 'justify' or ecxuse what has allegedly been said in this case.. It's right we criticise Israel for their actions which have gone too far and to utterly condemn the attack by Hamas as we did to a person on here but we do so within the structure of the laws of the society we live by because when we don't then we are in great peril.. | |||
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"the group broke UK law and will answer for that in court. And this should be the accepted base line for those who do, yet once again as we see with some people and even some of those in foreign governments in relation to the riots after Southport tribalism and whataboutery comes to the fore.. Yes it's right we look back in an honest and objective manner at the wrongs all empires historically carried out but it's not an excuse to use that now to 'justify' or ecxuse what has allegedly been said in this case.. It's right we criticise Israel for their actions which have gone too far and to utterly condemn the attack by Hamas as we did to a person on here but we do so within the structure of the laws of the society we live by because when we don't then we are in great peril.. " The world has changed. It’s become common place to see people waving the flags of foreign nations while destroying others, and choosing sides in conflicts they are not directly part of and never will be. You mention tribalism, and I think that is exactly what this is with kneecap. It amazes me how easily people get pulled into these ideological tribes and not through direct experience, but through association, and faux outrage passed on second or third hand. Before long, the tribe grows, but few have any real skin in the game. | |||
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"the group broke UK law and will answer for that in court. And this should be the accepted base line for those who do, yet once again as we see with some people and even some of those in foreign governments in relation to the riots after Southport tribalism and whataboutery comes to the fore.. Yes it's right we look back in an honest and objective manner at the wrongs all empires historically carried out but it's not an excuse to use that now to 'justify' or ecxuse what has allegedly been said in this case.. It's right we criticise Israel for their actions which have gone too far and to utterly condemn the attack by Hamas as we did to a person on here but we do so within the structure of the laws of the society we live by because when we don't then we are in great peril.. The world has changed. It’s become common place to see people waving the flags of foreign nations while destroying others, and choosing sides in conflicts they are not directly part of and never will be. You mention tribalism, and I think that is exactly what this is with kneecap. It amazes me how easily people get pulled into these ideological tribes and not through direct experience, but through association, and faux outrage passed on second or third hand. Before long, the tribe grows, but few have any real skin in the game." It was probably ever this, now with high speed media it's just a lot quicker so governments need to be as up to speed and ready for whatever might happen.. | |||
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