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"Mel Stride getting destroyed on the news when asked about his WFA policy and couldn't answer apart from saying well, um, um , well, um..... hilarious ![]() To use my mothers old expression. The Tories at the moment don't know if they are having a shit or a haircut. They don't really know who to attack. Tradition, and as opposition, says they should be tearing into Labour. But Reform could well turn out to be the beneficiaries. Talk about rocks and hard places. | |||
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"This works out at less than a £1 per day. All things considered, I’m sick of hearing the whining over this tbh though admittedly the optics of it didn’t look good for Labour. Stupid from an electoral point of view you have to say. Serves them right for introducing it in the first place with fanfare though tbf. Just increase the pension instead by the same amount & do away with the vote winning BS. Meanwhile, State Pension went up by 4.1% in April. The Triple Lock is arguably more unaffordable than this sidetracked nonsense dressed up as a gift & they have kept that. So what’s the big problem really? " The problem is knee-jerk decision making by Reeves and Starmer that has happened more than once. They are now trying to tiptoe out of this after finally understanding that telling their MP's to stop complaining isn't working. So lets consider the outcome, they have spent close to £1 billion so far on increased benefits, admin and changing the claim system. They have upset their core supporters and a lot of the back bench. This knee-jerk decision was poorly thought out and is on course to end as a loss. It would have been far better to have done nothing at all, or to have applied some due diligence to understand the likely outcome. | |||
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"Mel Stride getting destroyed on the news when asked about his WFA policy and couldn't answer apart from saying well, um, um , well, um..... hilarious ![]() as demonstrated by Bad Enoch today .... they just get worse as time goes on | |||
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"The issue is the hard cut off, it always has been. Too many parroted the labour line that it was means tested, when in reality it was hardline cut off that 1p over the cutoff lost pension credit and WFA. The fairest approach would be to scale the WFA gradually above the current threshold. For every pound earned over the cut off, reduce the allowance by one pound, tapering up to £300." By the time you factor in all those that have applied successfully for pension credits to be entitled to the WFA that never used to bother and all the extra staff costs of processing these claims, will the initial projected savings still be accurate, especially now he is hinting at back tracking | |||
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"The issue is the hard cut off, it always has been. Too many parroted the labour line that it was means tested, when in reality it was hardline cut off that 1p over the cutoff lost pension credit and WFA. The fairest approach would be to scale the WFA gradually above the current threshold. For every pound earned over the cut off, reduce the allowance by one pound, tapering up to £300. By the time you factor in all those that have applied successfully for pension credits to be entitled to the WFA that never used to bother and all the extra staff costs of processing these claims, will the initial projected savings still be accurate, especially now he is hinting at back tracking" They expected to save 1.5 Billion a year, however the claims for pension credit put a hole in that. 117K have been awarded pension credit which also feeds into other benefits such as housing, council etc. Cut a long story short they have spent £1 billion, and the u-turn will now start to eat into the remaining 500 million a year. | |||
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"The issue is the hard cut off, it always has been. Too many parroted the labour line that it was means tested, when in reality it was hardline cut off that 1p over the cutoff lost pension credit and WFA. The fairest approach would be to scale the WFA gradually above the current threshold. For every pound earned over the cut off, reduce the allowance by one pound, tapering up to £300. By the time you factor in all those that have applied successfully for pension credits to be entitled to the WFA that never used to bother and all the extra staff costs of processing these claims, will the initial projected savings still be accurate, especially now he is hinting at back tracking They expected to save 1.5 Billion a year, however the claims for pension credit put a hole in that. 117K have been awarded pension credit which also feeds into other benefits such as housing, council etc. Cut a long story short they have spent £1 billion, and the u-turn will now start to eat into the remaining 500 million a year." £1.5bn is six days interest cover on the national debt. Beggars belief how shortsighted Labour were introducing such an anti electorate policy for such a trivial amount. | |||
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"The issue is the hard cut off, it always has been. Too many parroted the labour line that it was means tested, when in reality it was hardline cut off that 1p over the cutoff lost pension credit and WFA. The fairest approach would be to scale the WFA gradually above the current threshold. For every pound earned over the cut off, reduce the allowance by one pound, tapering up to £300. By the time you factor in all those that have applied successfully for pension credits to be entitled to the WFA that never used to bother and all the extra staff costs of processing these claims, will the initial projected savings still be accurate, especially now he is hinting at back tracking They expected to save 1.5 Billion a year, however the claims for pension credit put a hole in that. 117K have been awarded pension credit which also feeds into other benefits such as housing, council etc. Cut a long story short they have spent £1 billion, and the u-turn will now start to eat into the remaining 500 million a year. £1.5bn is six days interest cover on the national debt. Beggars belief how shortsighted Labour were introducing such an anti electorate policy for such a trivial amount. " It was very poorly thought out, and that is how I would summarise the first 12 months of this government. | |||
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"The issue is the hard cut off, it always has been. Too many parroted the labour line that it was means tested, when in reality it was hardline cut off that 1p over the cutoff lost pension credit and WFA. The fairest approach would be to scale the WFA gradually above the current threshold. For every pound earned over the cut off, reduce the allowance by one pound, tapering up to £300. By the time you factor in all those that have applied successfully for pension credits to be entitled to the WFA that never used to bother and all the extra staff costs of processing these claims, will the initial projected savings still be accurate, especially now he is hinting at back tracking They expected to save 1.5 Billion a year, however the claims for pension credit put a hole in that. 117K have been awarded pension credit which also feeds into other benefits such as housing, council etc. Cut a long story short they have spent £1 billion, and the u-turn will now start to eat into the remaining 500 million a year. £1.5bn is six days interest cover on the national debt. Beggars belief how shortsighted Labour were introducing such an anti electorate policy for such a trivial amount. It was very poorly thought out, and that is how I would summarise the first 12 months of this government." Knives will be out for Reeves who will be back for more taxes and Rayners new homes are not getting built. Not just the first 12 months they haven’t prepared or budgeted for anything in their manifesto. | |||
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"The issue is the hard cut off, it always has been. Too many parroted the labour line that it was means tested, when in reality it was hardline cut off that 1p over the cutoff lost pension credit and WFA. The fairest approach would be to scale the WFA gradually above the current threshold. For every pound earned over the cut off, reduce the allowance by one pound, tapering up to £300. By the time you factor in all those that have applied successfully for pension credits to be entitled to the WFA that never used to bother and all the extra staff costs of processing these claims, will the initial projected savings still be accurate, especially now he is hinting at back tracking They expected to save 1.5 Billion a year, however the claims for pension credit put a hole in that. 117K have been awarded pension credit which also feeds into other benefits such as housing, council etc. Cut a long story short they have spent £1 billion, and the u-turn will now start to eat into the remaining 500 million a year. £1.5bn is six days interest cover on the national debt. Beggars belief how shortsighted Labour were introducing such an anti electorate policy for such a trivial amount. It was very poorly thought out, and that is how I would summarise the first 12 months of this government. Knives will be out for Reeves who will be back for more taxes and Rayners new homes are not getting built. Not just the first 12 months they haven’t prepared or budgeted for anything in their manifesto. " Ready to hit the ground running??? | |||
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"So if Labour back track and pay a means tested Winter Fuel Allowance, does that mean the black hole that they harped on about is filled in?. " It might be in the Autumn if this becomes a reason to justify tax hikes on working people ![]() | |||
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"So if Labour back track and pay a means tested Winter Fuel Allowance, does that mean the black hole that they harped on about is filled in?. " Their own treasury report showed the £22billion didn’t exist. The figure was £9.5billions, which almost exactly what their doctors and train drivers pay settlement cost. Ironic eh? | |||
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"The issue is the hard cut off, it always has been. Too many parroted the labour line that it was means tested, when in reality it was hardline cut off that 1p over the cutoff lost pension credit and WFA. The fairest approach would be to scale the WFA gradually above the current threshold. For every pound earned over the cut off, reduce the allowance by one pound, tapering up to £300. By the time you factor in all those that have applied successfully for pension credits to be entitled to the WFA that never used to bother and all the extra staff costs of processing these claims, will the initial projected savings still be accurate, especially now he is hinting at back tracking They expected to save 1.5 Billion a year, however the claims for pension credit put a hole in that. 117K have been awarded pension credit which also feeds into other benefits such as housing, council etc. Cut a long story short they have spent £1 billion, and the u-turn will now start to eat into the remaining 500 million a year." Such a small gain for so much political pain which might get worse if the small gain is wiped out and becomes a loss | |||
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