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"The Football Association will ban transgender women playing women's football in England from next season. " They mean they are not going to break the law with impunity anymore. | |||
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"It just makes sense and doesn't discriminate against woman playing the sport, Mrs x" Every sport should follow suit | |||
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"So, the FA have banned men from playing football with women. How the hell did it ever get to having the need for this to happen? Excellent news, however. "The mind boggles doesn’t it  | |||
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"It's about time, other sports should follow." Totally agree, darts being one of them but they have just ruled no change which means a well known trans in the darts world still gets to play against women | |||
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"It's about time, other sports should follow. Totally agree, darts being one of them but they have just ruled no change which means a well known trans in the darts world still gets to play against women " Ahhh yes, because throwing a dart at a fucking board has such a massive discrepancy in physicality. Any other smart sporting insight? | |||
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"It's about time, other sports should follow. Totally agree, darts being one of them but they have just ruled no change which means a well known trans in the darts world still gets to play against women Ahhh yes, because throwing a dart at a fucking board has such a massive discrepancy in physicality. Any other smart sporting insight?" You obviously don’t know much about darts | |||
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"It's about time, other sports should follow. Totally agree, darts being one of them but they have just ruled no change which means a well known trans in the darts world still gets to play against women Ahhh yes, because throwing a dart at a fucking board has such a massive discrepancy in physicality. Any other smart sporting insight?" That's not the point though is it | |||
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"They had no choice. If a woman player had gotten injured by a Trans player following the Supreme Court ruling, the FA were wide open to litigation." Nonsense. The recent Supreme Court decision only applies to the interpretation of the Equalities Act. It has no force on any other area of law, or on sporting clubs' right to choose their own rules. Sensible decision by the FA though. | |||
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"It's about time, other sports should follow. Totally agree, darts being one of them but they have just ruled no change which means a well known trans in the darts world still gets to play against women Ahhh yes, because throwing a dart at a fucking board has such a massive discrepancy in physicality. Any other smart sporting insight?" Maybe do some research before making yourself look silly…. Men are better at darts than women by about 10 to 15 point averages per 3 darts. Not just at the very top level such Beau and the two Luke’s, but across all levels. This is an indisputable fact, born out by statistics and averages. It’s the whole reason why there is a separate women’s tour and women’s competitions. The reasons why women can’t play to the same standard as men are not immediately obvious and on the face of it, there shouldn’t be a physical difference, but there is and science has proven why…. 1. Men naturally have superior hand to eye coordination. 2. Darts involves multitasking. And despite all the jokes and what you may or may not believe, across the board men have been scientifically proven to be very slightly better at that than women. 3. Also estrogen has been proven to reduce a persons ability to multitask, so even women who are very good multitaskers, become less good at it during ovulation and menstruation. Last I heard, m2f trans don’t ovulate or menstruate. 4. Men are better at building muscle memory than women. 5. Very few women don’t suffer from any form of physical and/or emotional effects of menstruation. A m2f trans will never have this issue. Gender reassignment surgery does not involve installing ovaries or a uterus. 6. M2f trans are allowed to have a 5 times higher level of testosterone compared to women. A hormone that is proven to enhance sporting performance, even in non physical sports. Those born female are banned from taking it as a supplement. I wonder why? No matter what any m2f trans does or has done to their body, the changes are cosmetic. The body is being surgically and hormonally altered to appear female but they are still male and the Supreme Court has ruled on it. They have a prostate. The most well know trans darts player NVL, still has his cock and balls. So he is still making male quantities of testosterone 24/7 All transgender people can identify as, live their lives as and call themselves whatever they wish. On the whole nobody cares either way. But they are still fundamentally the sex they were assigned in the womb and in the light of scientific evidence showing men have an unfair biological advantage and the Supreme Court ruling, m2f trans shouldn’t be allowed to play in female only tournaments. Nobody is saying they can’t compete, just play with the other people who aren’t female or in open tournaments. The WDF agrees and m2f trans will not be allowed to play in their female only events going forward. The PDC have announced they won’t be making any changes | |||
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"It's about time, other sports should follow. Totally agree, darts being one of them but they have just ruled no change which means a well known trans in the darts world still gets to play against women Ahhh yes, because throwing a dart at a fucking board has such a massive discrepancy in physicality. Any other smart sporting insight?" You seem angry. There are many male darts competitions for trans"women" to take part in, because trans"women" are men | |||
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"It's about time, other sports should follow. Totally agree, darts being one of them but they have just ruled no change which means a well known trans in the darts world still gets to play against women Ahhh yes, because throwing a dart at a fucking board has such a massive discrepancy in physicality. Any other smart sporting insight? Maybe do some research before making yourself look silly…. Men are better at darts than women by about 10 to 15 point averages per 3 darts. Not just at the very top level such Beau and the two Luke’s, but across all levels. This is an indisputable fact, born out by statistics and averages. It’s the whole reason why there is a separate women’s tour and women’s competitions. The reasons why women can’t play to the same standard as men are not immediately obvious and on the face of it, there shouldn’t be a physical difference, but there is and science has proven why…. 1. Men naturally have superior hand to eye coordination. 2. Darts involves multitasking. And despite all the jokes and what you may or may not believe, across the board men have been scientifically proven to be very slightly better at that than women. 3. Also estrogen has been proven to reduce a persons ability to multitask, so even women who are very good multitaskers, become less good at it during ovulation and menstruation. Last I heard, m2f trans don’t ovulate or menstruate. 4. Men are better at building muscle memory than women. 5. Very few women don’t suffer from any form of physical and/or emotional effects of menstruation. A m2f trans will never have this issue. Gender reassignment surgery does not involve installing ovaries or a uterus. 6. M2f trans are allowed to have a 5 times higher level of testosterone compared to women. A hormone that is proven to enhance sporting performance, even in non physical sports. Those born female are banned from taking it as a supplement. I wonder why? No matter what any m2f trans does or has done to their body, the changes are cosmetic. The body is being surgically and hormonally altered to appear female but they are still male and the Supreme Court has ruled on it. They have a prostate. The most well know trans darts player NVL, still has his cock and balls. So he is still making male quantities of testosterone 24/7 All transgender people can identify as, live their lives as and call themselves whatever they wish. On the whole nobody cares either way. But they are still fundamentally the sex they were assigned in the womb and in the light of scientific evidence showing men have an unfair biological advantage and the Supreme Court ruling, m2f trans shouldn’t be allowed to play in female only tournaments. Nobody is saying they can’t compete, just play with the other people who aren’t female or in open tournaments. The WDF agrees and m2f trans will not be allowed to play in their female only events going forward. The PDC have announced they won’t be making any changes " So a M2F trans person taking hormones won't affect their ability because "being a man" overrides that? You said so yourself in point 3 about estrogen having an effect on multitasking so surely these trans athletes are giving themselves more of a disadvantage if anything. | |||
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"It's about time, other sports should follow. Totally agree, darts being one of them but they have just ruled no change which means a well known trans in the darts world still gets to play against women Ahhh yes, because throwing a dart at a fucking board has such a massive discrepancy in physicality. Any other smart sporting insight? You seem angry. There are many male darts competitions for trans"women" to take part in, because trans"women" are men "They're not though, are they? | |||
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"It's about time, other sports should follow. Totally agree, darts being one of them but they have just ruled no change which means a well known trans in the darts world still gets to play against women Ahhh yes, because throwing a dart at a fucking board has such a massive discrepancy in physicality. Any other smart sporting insight? You seem angry. There are many male darts competitions for trans"women" to take part in, because trans"women" are men
They're not though, are they?"Yes, trans "women" are men. By commonsense, by biology, by science, by rationality and by law, they are men. | |||
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"It's about time, other sports should follow. Totally agree, darts being one of them but they have just ruled no change which means a well known trans in the darts world still gets to play against women Ahhh yes, because throwing a dart at a fucking board has such a massive discrepancy in physicality. Any other smart sporting insight? You seem angry. There are many male darts competitions for trans"women" to take part in, because trans"women" are men
They're not though, are they?"A woman is a biological female a trans woman is biologically male regardless of what treatment they are having | |||
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"It's about time, other sports should follow. Totally agree, darts being one of them but they have just ruled no change which means a well known trans in the darts world still gets to play against women Ahhh yes, because throwing a dart at a fucking board has such a massive discrepancy in physicality. Any other smart sporting insight? Maybe do some research before making yourself look silly…. Men are better at darts than women by about 10 to 15 point averages per 3 darts. Not just at the very top level such Beau and the two Luke’s, but across all levels. This is an indisputable fact, born out by statistics and averages. It’s the whole reason why there is a separate women’s tour and women’s competitions. The reasons why women can’t play to the same standard as men are not immediately obvious and on the face of it, there shouldn’t be a physical difference, but there is and science has proven why…. 1. Men naturally have superior hand to eye coordination. 2. Darts involves multitasking. And despite all the jokes and what you may or may not believe, across the board men have been scientifically proven to be very slightly better at that than women. 3. Also estrogen has been proven to reduce a persons ability to multitask, so even women who are very good multitaskers, become less good at it during ovulation and menstruation. Last I heard, m2f trans don’t ovulate or menstruate. 4. Men are better at building muscle memory than women. 5. Very few women don’t suffer from any form of physical and/or emotional effects of menstruation. A m2f trans will never have this issue. Gender reassignment surgery does not involve installing ovaries or a uterus. 6. M2f trans are allowed to have a 5 times higher level of testosterone compared to women. A hormone that is proven to enhance sporting performance, even in non physical sports. Those born female are banned from taking it as a supplement. I wonder why? No matter what any m2f trans does or has done to their body, the changes are cosmetic. The body is being surgically and hormonally altered to appear female but they are still male and the Supreme Court has ruled on it. They have a prostate. The most well know trans darts player NVL, still has his cock and balls. So he is still making male quantities of testosterone 24/7 All transgender people can identify as, live their lives as and call themselves whatever they wish. On the whole nobody cares either way. But they are still fundamentally the sex they were assigned in the womb and in the light of scientific evidence showing men have an unfair biological advantage and the Supreme Court ruling, m2f trans shouldn’t be allowed to play in female only tournaments. Nobody is saying they can’t compete, just play with the other people who aren’t female or in open tournaments. The WDF agrees and m2f trans will not be allowed to play in their female only events going forward. The PDC have announced they won’t be making any changes So a M2F trans person taking hormones won't affect their ability because "being a man" overrides that? You said so yourself in point 3 about estrogen having an effect on multitasking so surely these trans athletes are giving themselves more of a disadvantage if anything." I’ll say 3 things…. 1. The trans can stop taking oestrogen before a bit tournament, the woman can’t. Your counter argument would be that they probably wouldn’t and you might be right, I might be right, but the women can’t that’s for sure. 2. You ignored all the other points I made so I assume you agree? 3. The trans can increase testosterone levels before a big tournament, woman are banned from taking testosterone supplements. That’s one of the many differences between men and women. That’s why there’s separation | |||
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"It's about time, other sports should follow. Totally agree, darts being one of them but they have just ruled no change which means a well known trans in the darts world still gets to play against women Ahhh yes, because throwing a dart at a fucking board has such a massive discrepancy in physicality. Any other smart sporting insight? You seem angry. There are many male darts competitions for trans"women" to take part in, because trans"women" are men
They're not though, are they?
Yes, trans "women" are men. By commonsense, by biology, by science, by rationality and by law, they are men."There are trans women that you would have have no idea used to be a man. Does your common sense still spot that? And when it comes to biology, if they are transitioning and taking hormones, then they're essentially going further and further away from what a man is. Oh and by law is a great argument because those can never be changed 🙄 | |||
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"It's about time, other sports should follow. Totally agree, darts being one of them but they have just ruled no change which means a well known trans in the darts world still gets to play against women Ahhh yes, because throwing a dart at a fucking board has such a massive discrepancy in physicality. Any other smart sporting insight? Maybe do some research before making yourself look silly…. Men are better at darts than women by about 10 to 15 point averages per 3 darts. Not just at the very top level such Beau and the two Luke’s, but across all levels. This is an indisputable fact, born out by statistics and averages. It’s the whole reason why there is a separate women’s tour and women’s competitions. The reasons why women can’t play to the same standard as men are not immediately obvious and on the face of it, there shouldn’t be a physical difference, but there is and science has proven why…. 1. Men naturally have superior hand to eye coordination. 2. Darts involves multitasking. And despite all the jokes and what you may or may not believe, across the board men have been scientifically proven to be very slightly better at that than women. 3. Also estrogen has been proven to reduce a persons ability to multitask, so even women who are very good multitaskers, become less good at it during ovulation and menstruation. Last I heard, m2f trans don’t ovulate or menstruate. 4. Men are better at building muscle memory than women. 5. Very few women don’t suffer from any form of physical and/or emotional effects of menstruation. A m2f trans will never have this issue. Gender reassignment surgery does not involve installing ovaries or a uterus. 6. M2f trans are allowed to have a 5 times higher level of testosterone compared to women. A hormone that is proven to enhance sporting performance, even in non physical sports. Those born female are banned from taking it as a supplement. I wonder why? No matter what any m2f trans does or has done to their body, the changes are cosmetic. The body is being surgically and hormonally altered to appear female but they are still male and the Supreme Court has ruled on it. They have a prostate. The most well know trans darts player NVL, still has his cock and balls. So he is still making male quantities of testosterone 24/7 All transgender people can identify as, live their lives as and call themselves whatever they wish. On the whole nobody cares either way. But they are still fundamentally the sex they were assigned in the womb and in the light of scientific evidence showing men have an unfair biological advantage and the Supreme Court ruling, m2f trans shouldn’t be allowed to play in female only tournaments. Nobody is saying they can’t compete, just play with the other people who aren’t female or in open tournaments. The WDF agrees and m2f trans will not be allowed to play in their female only events going forward. The PDC have announced they won’t be making any changes So a M2F trans person taking hormones won't affect their ability because "being a man" overrides that? You said so yourself in point 3 about estrogen having an effect on multitasking so surely these trans athletes are giving themselves more of a disadvantage if anything. I’ll say 3 things…. 1. The trans can stop taking oestrogen before a bit tournament, the woman can’t. Your counter argument would be that they probably wouldn’t and you might be right, I might be right, but the women can’t that’s for sure. 2. You ignored all the other points I made so I assume you agree? 3. The trans can increase testosterone levels before a big tournament, woman are banned from taking testosterone supplements. That’s one of the many differences between men and women. That’s why there’s separation " Your argument is only as strong as your weakest point and I wasn't replying to every single point because... I'll be honest, I can't be arsed. Also, isn't that what a testing pool is for? So they can be monitored and ensure they are eligible to play their sport? 🤔 | |||
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"It's about time, other sports should follow. Totally agree, darts being one of them but they have just ruled no change which means a well known trans in the darts world still gets to play against women Ahhh yes, because throwing a dart at a fucking board has such a massive discrepancy in physicality. Any other smart sporting insight? You seem angry. There are many male darts competitions for trans"women" to take part in, because trans"women" are men
They're not though, are they?
Yes, trans "women" are men. By commonsense, by biology, by science, by rationality and by law, they are men.
There are trans women that you would have have no idea used to be a man. Does your common sense still spot that? And when it comes to biology, if they are transitioning and taking hormones, then they're essentially going further and further away from what a man is. Oh and by law is a great argument because those can never be changed 🙄"Why does it matter if I have no idea they used to be a man? Although I would be fairly certain, especially when I see them walk. The hip arrangement and subsequent gait can never be altered. And taking dr*gs, having bits chopped off and bits being stuck on doesn't make them a woman, as defined in law. Yes, laws can change, but for now, a trans "woman" is a man and that's that | |||
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"It's about time, other sports should follow. Totally agree, darts being one of them but they have just ruled no change which means a well known trans in the darts world still gets to play against women Ahhh yes, because throwing a dart at a fucking board has such a massive discrepancy in physicality. Any other smart sporting insight? You seem angry. There are many male darts competitions for trans"women" to take part in, because trans"women" are men
They're not though, are they?
Yes, trans "women" are men. By commonsense, by biology, by science, by rationality and by law, they are men.
There are trans women that you would have have no idea used to be a man. Does your common sense still spot that? And when it comes to biology, if they are transitioning and taking hormones, then they're essentially going further and further away from what a man is. Oh and by law is a great argument because those can never be changed 🙄
Why does it matter if I have no idea they used to be a man? Although I would be fairly certain, especially when I see them walk. The hip arrangement and subsequent gait can never be altered. And taking dr*gs, having bits chopped off and bits being stuck on doesn't make them a woman, as defined in law. Yes, laws can change, but for now, a trans "woman" is a man and that's that "Ahhh you're the "I can always tell" brigade. I think that says enough about what a discussion on the subject with you is like. Oh and just because something is a law, doesn't mean it's right and shouldn't be scrutinised, otherwise gay people would still be chemically castrated. | |||
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"It's about time, other sports should follow. Totally agree, darts being one of them but they have just ruled no change which means a well known trans in the darts world still gets to play against women Ahhh yes, because throwing a dart at a fucking board has such a massive discrepancy in physicality. Any other smart sporting insight? You seem angry. There are many male darts competitions for trans"women" to take part in, because trans"women" are men
They're not though, are they?
Yes, trans "women" are men. By commonsense, by biology, by science, by rationality and by law, they are men.
There are trans women that you would have have no idea used to be a man. Does your common sense still spot that? And when it comes to biology, if they are transitioning and taking hormones, then they're essentially going further and further away from what a man is. Oh and by law is a great argument because those can never be changed 🙄
Why does it matter if I have no idea they used to be a man? Although I would be fairly certain, especially when I see them walk. The hip arrangement and subsequent gait can never be altered. And taking dr*gs, having bits chopped off and bits being stuck on doesn't make them a woman, as defined in law. Yes, laws can change, but for now, a trans "woman" is a man and that's that
Ahhh you're the "I can always tell" brigade. I think that says enough about what a discussion on the subject with you is like. Oh and just because something is a law, doesn't mean it's right and shouldn't be scrutinised, otherwise gay people would still be chemically castrated."You seem to have a bee in your bonnet as to whether "I" can tell or not. It makes no difference to me whatsoever if I can tell or not. I happen to actually like women (you know, the real kind) and don't want to see them fall foul of the thinly-disguised misogyny of men who think they are women, and their supporters, who also think they have a right to intimidate women, and violate their safe spaces in the ways trans-activists have been getting away with for far too long. You seem to be one of these, so I'm going to leave you to it and you can read the ruling again and wring your hands piteously. | |||
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" You seem to have a bee in your bonnet as to whether "I" can tell or not. It makes no difference to me whatsoever if I can tell or not. I happen to actually like women (you know, the real kind) and don't want to see them fall foul of the thinly-disguised misogyny of men who think they are women, and their supporters, who also think they have a right to intimidate women, and violate their safe spaces in the ways trans-activists have been getting away with for far too long. You seem to be one of these, so I'm going to leave you to it and you can read the ruling again and wring your hands piteously. " So you think a few instances are representative of an entire demographic of people? Men who beat the shit out of their wives when England lose a football match is a case of violating their safe space, but sure, trans-women who just want to feel accepted in society are the real problem so well done for calling that out you absolute hero. | |||
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"They had no choice. If a woman player had gotten injured by a Trans player following the Supreme Court ruling, the FA were wide open to litigation. Nonsense. The recent Supreme Court decision only applies to the interpretation of the Equalities Act. It has no force on any other area of law, or on sporting clubs' right to choose their own rules. Sensible decision by the FA though." It's widely accepted that the judgment has implications for many organisations, sports and otherwise, and they are therefore wisely revising their policies. | |||
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"It's about time, other sports should follow. Totally agree, darts being one of them but they have just ruled no change which means a well known trans in the darts world still gets to play against women Ahhh yes, because throwing a dart at a fucking board has such a massive discrepancy in physicality. Any other smart sporting insight? Maybe do some research before making yourself look silly…. Men are better at darts than women by about 10 to 15 point averages per 3 darts. Not just at the very top level such Beau and the two Luke’s, but across all levels. This is an indisputable fact, born out by statistics and averages. It’s the whole reason why there is a separate women’s tour and women’s competitions. The reasons why women can’t play to the same standard as men are not immediately obvious and on the face of it, there shouldn’t be a physical difference, but there is and science has proven why…. 1. Men naturally have superior hand to eye coordination. 2. Darts involves multitasking. And despite all the jokes and what you may or may not believe, across the board men have been scientifically proven to be very slightly better at that than women. 3. Also estrogen has been proven to reduce a persons ability to multitask, so even women who are very good multitaskers, become less good at it during ovulation and menstruation. Last I heard, m2f trans don’t ovulate or menstruate. 4. Men are better at building muscle memory than women. 5. Very few women don’t suffer from any form of physical and/or emotional effects of menstruation. A m2f trans will never have this issue. Gender reassignment surgery does not involve installing ovaries or a uterus. 6. M2f trans are allowed to have a 5 times higher level of testosterone compared to women. A hormone that is proven to enhance sporting performance, even in non physical sports. Those born female are banned from taking it as a supplement. I wonder why? No matter what any m2f trans does or has done to their body, the changes are cosmetic. The body is being surgically and hormonally altered to appear female but they are still male and the Supreme Court has ruled on it. They have a prostate. The most well know trans darts player NVL, still has his cock and balls. So he is still making male quantities of testosterone 24/7 All transgender people can identify as, live their lives as and call themselves whatever they wish. On the whole nobody cares either way. But they are still fundamentally the sex they were assigned in the womb and in the light of scientific evidence showing men have an unfair biological advantage and the Supreme Court ruling, m2f trans shouldn’t be allowed to play in female only tournaments. Nobody is saying they can’t compete, just play with the other people who aren’t female or in open tournaments. The WDF agrees and m2f trans will not be allowed to play in their female only events going forward. The PDC have announced they won’t be making any changes So a M2F trans person taking hormones won't affect their ability because "being a man" overrides that? You said so yourself in point 3 about estrogen having an effect on multitasking so surely these trans athletes are giving themselves more of a disadvantage if anything. I’ll say 3 things…. 1. The trans can stop taking oestrogen before a bit tournament, the woman can’t. Your counter argument would be that they probably wouldn’t and you might be right, I might be right, but the women can’t that’s for sure. 2. You ignored all the other points I made so I assume you agree? 3. The trans can increase testosterone levels before a big tournament, woman are banned from taking testosterone supplements. That’s one of the many differences between men and women. That’s why there’s separation Your argument is only as strong as your weakest point and I wasn't replying to every single point because... I'll be honest, I can't be arsed. Also, isn't that what a testing pool is for? So they can be monitored and ensure they are eligible to play their sport? 🤔" Who terms darts as a sport, it's a pub pastime like dominoes lol | |||
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"I look forward to trans men being welcomed with open arms by the women's FA and all the other sporting bodies that are set to follow suit." If unmedicated, this would be logical. However, with medication, wouldn't they be considered to be doping for a competitive advantage? | |||
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