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Israeli Television Pulls Program Debunking Testimony of Key Rescuer of October 7

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By *ulie.your. bottom. slut OP   TV/TS
7 weeks ago

Glasgow

Israeli TV channel 13 has been pressurised into not showing a documentary exposing Rami Davidan's ( a proclaimed Israeli hero ) has a liar.

There had been many stories about contradicting testimonies by him before, but because they were from allegedly pro Palestinian outlets, they were ignored.

His devastating account was a central part of Sandberg’s ‘Screams Before Silence’ – a documentary on alleged sexual violence committed by Hamas on Oct. 7, 2023.

But according to an Israeli investigative team, Davidian, one of the film’s key sources, is a serial liar.

Earlier this month, Israeli journalist Raviv Drucker shared a promo for a new investigation he did for his Channel 13 program into some of Davidian’s claims since Oct. 7. “He’s considered one of the heroes of October 7th. But did all of this actually happen?” the promotion hints.

But days later, Drucker announced on Twitter that Channel 13 CEO Emiliano Calemzuk pulled the report at the last minute.

Unfortunately the western media where Davidians stories were blasted every as headlines, are totally silent on this story.

“These are stories made up from beginning to end. Hair-raising stories that never, ever occurred,” Drucker said.

Davidian is also on recorded film as saying killing all the people in Gaza is the only response to October 7th.

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By *appyPandaMan
7 weeks ago

Kilkenny, but Dublin is more fun

What happened October 7th definitely was horrendous but the lies created about it to depict the Palestinians as barbaric savages (that nonsense about 40 beheaded babies as an example) makes it so hard to get to the truth underneath.

It's also written and talked about as if it happened out of nowhere when even before October, 2023 had been one of the most brutal years for Palestinians in years with hundreds killed before October, thousands arrested and detained in administrative detention without trial and over 30 violent pogroms in the west bank against Palestinian villages committed by settlers backed by the IDF.

You do not treat a population like that and then try act the poor weak victim when at some point the population hits back.

I definitely don't condone what happened as I see it deeply unjust for normal people to suffer for the crimes of their states but I can understand why it happened.

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan
7 weeks ago

nearby

Read his interview on Israel national

News website. Who knows after the event what is accurate and what is not, what the media has cherry picked

The harrowing footage of Hamas and their helpers shooting up the kibbutz’s, blood stained tiled floors in people’s homes and the interview of surviving Israelis is not in doubt. 75% Palestinians reportedly supported the Hamas brutality. Islamic terror is a global phenomenon and not restricted to killing Israelis.

But it’s also been weaponised for Israel to kill 50,000 civilians in Gaza, and make 1.9 million homeless. Bombing hospitals and killing aid workers, burying them with their ambulances in attempt to cover up war crimes. USA obviously supporting this fully by supplying over 100,000 tonnes of bombs.

They are as bad as each other.

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By *end1Man
7 weeks ago

southend on sea

There's plenty of horrific videos of IDF troops carrying out all sorts of acts you can find on the web. So many that the top brass had to issue orders to IDF troops to stop posting online.

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By (user no longer on site)
7 weeks ago

Jewish hostages say it

https://youtu.be/vAFtVqwuDhA?si=x47UZ8ZUUhd1CPVT

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple
7 weeks ago

Border of London


"Jewish hostages say it

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You've put up some horrific propaganda glorifying Hamas, but what's your point?

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By (user no longer on site)
7 weeks ago


"Jewish hostages say it

You've put up some horrific propaganda glorifying Hamas, but what's your point?"

I have just put up what Jews who have been saying they went through real life and have something to say that does not fit the Israel government

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple
7 weeks ago

Border of London


"Jewish hostages say it

You've put up some horrific propaganda glorifying Hamas, but what's your point?

I have just put up what Jews who have been saying they went through real life and have something to say that does not fit the Israel government "

You do realise that the overwhelming majority of those statements were made while under direct Hamas control/captivity or while another loved one (husband/father) was being held by Hamas?

You don't have to like or agree with Israel to understand that. You have literally promoted a pro-Hamas propaganda video. The equivalent of posting a video of a m0lested nine year old who says her abuser was tender. Pretty revolting, really.

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By *end1Man
7 weeks ago

southend on sea


"Jewish hostages say it

You've put up some horrific propaganda glorifying Hamas, but what's your point?

I have just put up what Jews who have been saying they went through real life and have something to say that does not fit the Israel government

You do realise that the overwhelming majority of those statements were made while under direct Hamas control/captivity or while another loved one (husband/father) was being held by Hamas?

You don't have to like or agree with Israel to understand that. You have literally promoted a pro-Hamas propaganda video. The equivalent of posting a video of a m0lested nine year old who says her abuser was tender. Pretty revolting, really."

so what about all the videos the IDF have shared online so many that the top brass had to order a stop to it!

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple
7 weeks ago

Border of London

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple
7 weeks ago

Border of London


"Jewish hostages say it

You've put up some horrific propaganda glorifying Hamas, but what's your point?

I have just put up what Jews who have been saying they went through real life and have something to say that does not fit the Israel government

You do realise that the overwhelming majority of those statements were made while under direct Hamas control/captivity or while another loved one (husband/father) was being held by Hamas?

You don't have to like or agree with Israel to understand that. You have literally promoted a pro-Hamas propaganda video. The equivalent of posting a video of a m0lested nine year old who says her abuser was tender. Pretty revolting, really. so what about all the videos the IDF have shared online so many that the top brass had to order a stop to it!"

All videos of illegal, immoral and revolting behaviour by any IDF members are also despicable. Why wouldn't it be?

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By (user no longer on site)
7 weeks ago


"Jewish hostages say it

You've put up some horrific propaganda glorifying Hamas, but what's your point?

I have just put up what Jews who have been saying they went through real life and have something to say that does not fit the Israel government

You do realise that the overwhelming majority of those statements were made while under direct Hamas control/captivity or while another loved one (husband/father) was being held by Hamas?

You don't have to like or agree with Israel to understand that. You have literally promoted a pro-Hamas propaganda video. The equivalent of posting a video of a m0lested nine year old who says her abuser was tender. Pretty revolting, really."

You express opinion. The Jews who are now free could easily report they were forced but there are truths in the video.

Fornexample they were released with out injury, where Arabs held by Israel had been brutalised and scarred by having star of David branded on their heads.

I do not approve of taking hostages but Arab hostages were brutalised and tortured and r4ped.

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple
7 weeks ago

Border of London


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You express opinion. The Jews who are now free could easily report they were forced but there are truths in the video.

Fornexample they were released with out injury..."

Complete nonsense, unless you live in a Hamas echo chamber.

It's one thing to decry and condemn Israeli treatment of hostages. It's quite another to support abusers with their propaganda videos portraying the abused as thankful and positive about their abusers. That's reprehensible, and speaks volumes about the poster.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/hours-after-release-freed-hostages-talk-of-hamas-torture-psychological-torment/

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/starved-burned-and-hung-by-their-feet-freed-israeli-hostages-detail-months-of-abuse-torture-by-hamas/articleshow/118103429.cms

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdxnwnz1ldko

https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/01/middleeast/israeli-hostages-released-accounts-hamas-intl-hnk/index.html

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By (user no longer on site)
7 weeks ago


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You express opinion. The Jews who are now free could easily report they were forced but there are truths in the video.

Fornexample they were released with out injury...

Complete nonsense, unless you live in a Hamas echo chamber.

It's one thing to decry and condemn Israeli treatment of hostages. It's quite another to support abusers with their propaganda videos portraying the abused as thankful and positive about their abusers. That's reprehensible, and speaks volumes about the poster.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/hours-after-release-freed-hostages-talk-of-hamas-torture-psychological-torment/

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/starved-burned-and-hung-by-their-feet-freed-israeli-hostages-detail-months-of-abuse-torture-by-hamas/articleshow/118103429.cms

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdxnwnz1ldko

https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/01/middleeast/israeli-hostages-released-accounts-hamas-intl-hnk/index.html

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I have looked at your links and the first one is lies by IDF

The rest are examples of what other people say and not the Jews in captivity

The propoganda is many examples that you believe and you should open your eyes and think for yourself than listen and swallow this

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple
7 weeks ago

Border of London


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...lies by IDF...

"

Okay. So you've picked a side and won't be shifted.

Enjoy your truth by Hamas.

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By *end1Man
7 weeks ago

southend on sea


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...lies by IDF...

Okay. So you've picked a side and won't be shifted.

Enjoy your truth by Hamas."

but have you not picked the IDF? What are your thoughts on the cold blooded murder and the lies by the IDF with the 15 medical workers who along with the ambulances was buried!

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple
7 weeks ago

Border of London


"

...lies by IDF...

Okay. So you've picked a side and won't be shifted.

Enjoy your truth by Hamas.but have you not picked the IDF? What are your thoughts on the cold blooded murder and the lies by the IDF with the 15 medical workers who along with the ambulances was buried!"

It needs an investigation and for any wrongdoing to be punished to the full extent of the law. If the investigation doesn't happen, it is a disgusting cover up.

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By (user no longer on site)
7 weeks ago


"

...lies by IDF...

Okay. So you've picked a side and won't be shifted.

Enjoy your truth by Hamas.but have you not picked the IDF? What are your thoughts on the cold blooded murder and the lies by the IDF with the 15 medical workers who along with the ambulances was buried!

It needs an investigation and for any wrongdoing to be punished to the full extent of the law. If the investigation doesn't happen, it is a disgusting cover up."

You should remember that post you have put into the forum called strong reactions to moral political issues.

You sound like netenyahu who is using up Jews and Arab lives. It is netenyahu to blame and I understand your lack of awareness I don't blame you I blame netenyahu

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By *end1Man
7 weeks ago

southend on sea


"

...lies by IDF...

Okay. So you've picked a side and won't be shifted.

Enjoy your truth by Hamas.but have you not picked the IDF? What are your thoughts on the cold blooded murder and the lies by the IDF with the 15 medical workers who along with the ambulances was buried!

It needs an investigation and for any wrongdoing to be punished to the full extent of the law. If the investigation doesn't happen, it is a disgusting cover up."

sadly nothing will happen there's no one who can hold Israel accountable.

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By (user no longer on site)
7 weeks ago


"

...lies by IDF...

Okay. So you've picked a side and won't be shifted.

Enjoy your truth by Hamas.but have you not picked the IDF? What are your thoughts on the cold blooded murder and the lies by the IDF with the 15 medical workers who along with the ambulances was buried!

It needs an investigation and for any wrongdoing to be punished to the full extent of the law. If the investigation doesn't happen, it is a disgusting cover up.sadly nothing will happen there's no one who can hold Israel accountable."

I agree. Only when the oppressive system employed is dismantled and this oppressed are given equal rights will there be peace. Israel has created this problem with apartheid and must go.

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By (user no longer on site)
7 weeks ago


"

...lies by IDF...

Okay. So you've picked a side and won't be shifted.

Enjoy your truth by Hamas.but have you not picked the IDF? What are your thoughts on the cold blooded murder and the lies by the IDF with the 15 medical workers who along with the ambulances was buried!

It needs an investigation and for any wrongdoing to be punished to the full extent of the law. If the investigation doesn't happen, it is a disgusting cover up."

It will not be investigated and if so not by IDF but by independent

Asking IDF is like asking a robber to investigate his own crimesbNetenyahu is like a guy who is negotiating the dividing of a pizza while he is eating it. Zionists are greedy people and are not representing jews

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By *aaayMan
5 weeks ago

london

Isreali state commits war crimes on a daily basis. Zionists lie through their teeth and refer to human right organisations around the world “Hamas supporters” when human right organisations report the truth is Israel murdering civilians in the most documented genocide of living history.

Who bombs every single hospital? Israel

Who bombs refugee camps murdering thousands of civilians? Israel

Who r@pes palestinain civilians? Israel

Who r@pes their own civilian? Israel

Who targets Palestine children and shops them in the head? Israel

Every single war crimes imaginable is inflicted by Israel against civilians always claiming Hamas this Hamas that to mask their horrors.

Who plans tinned food with explosives in it and then places it in Gaza where they are starving palestinaisn to death? Israel murdering children desperate for food.

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By *end1Man
5 weeks ago

southend on sea

What a surprise Israel don't like the truth.

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By *heLeadbettersCouple
5 weeks ago

Reading


"Isreali state commits war crimes on a daily basis. Zionists lie through their teeth and refer to human right organisations around the world “Hamas supporters” when human right organisations report the truth is Israel murdering civilians in the most documented genocide of living history.

Who bombs every single hospital? Israel

Who bombs refugee camps murdering thousands of civilians? Israel

Who r@pes palestinain civilians? Israel

Who r@pes their own civilian? Israel

Who targets Palestine children and shops them in the head? Israel

Every single war crimes imaginable is inflicted by Israel against civilians always claiming Hamas this Hamas that to mask their horrors.

Who plans tinned food with explosives in it and then places it in Gaza where they are starving palestinaisn to death? Israel murdering children desperate for food."

Good questions.

And Hamas are a tolerant, peace loving group who wouldn't harm a soul. Such angels......

J

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By *enSiskoMan
5 weeks ago

Cestus 3

Israel have set a new world order, an order that has no commitment to international law, no commitment to humanity except their own.

Complete freedom to kill, starve etc.

Other countries are silent and watching, looking at their neighbours and eyeing up the land they have.

There are no longer countries who can say stop doing that (well there are a few left), but who would listen.

I believe this conflict has only highlighted that war has no rules now the icc have been shown to be toothless so countries waging war no longer have to hid their crimes just post it on tic Tok.

scary times, and that is not meeting the thousands of terrorists being enabled against us.

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By *idnightMischiefMan
5 weeks ago

London

If you ever look at interviews filmed during the liberation of Belsen, you will see well-fed people talking about the horrors they experienced, while emaciated corpses are loaded onto trucks in the background behind them.

Not everyone had the same experience, but it doesn't detract from anything else that happened.

Implying that hostages were somehow always looked after, as a means of Hamas apologism - and comparing them with terror suspects in administrative detention, is utterly deplorable.

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By *enSiskoMan
5 weeks ago

Cestus 3


"If you ever look at interviews filmed during the liberation of Belsen, you will see well-fed people talking about the horrors they experienced, while emaciated corpses are loaded onto trucks in the background behind them.

Not everyone had the same experience, but it doesn't detract from anything else that happened.

Implying that hostages were somehow always looked after, as a means of Hamas apologism - and comparing them with terror suspects in administrative detention, is utterly deplorable.

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Deplorable!

R0ping, touture, whilst being held captive is you are right deplorable.

So why do Israel do these things to Palestinians they have snatched off the street and held with no due process?

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By (user no longer on site)
5 weeks ago


"If you ever look at interviews filmed during the liberation of Belsen, you will see well-fed people talking about the horrors they experienced, while emaciated corpses are loaded onto trucks in the background behind them.

Not everyone had the same experience, but it doesn't detract from anything else that happened.

Implying that hostages were somehow always looked after, as a means of Hamas apologism - and comparing them with terror suspects in administrative detention, is utterly deplorable.

"

You would have done very well in South afrika

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