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Petrol and diesel new car ban reinstated.

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By *0shadesOfFilth OP   Man
3 weeks ago

nearby

Sir Keir Starmer has said he wants British manufacturers to be at the “forefront” of the electric vehicle “revolution”, as he confirmed a raft of new reforms in the wake of US President Donald Trump’s tariffs.

As part of his announcement Starmer will reinstate the 2030 ban on the sale of new petrol and diesel cars.

Regulations around manufacturing targets on electric cars and vans will also be altered, to help firms in the transition, and new hybrids will be on the market for another five years.

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By *entleman_spyMan
3 weeks ago

nearby

So totally watering down the ban, this is the first step to it not happening, just as the maker has been saying for years.

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By *ggdrasil66Man
3 weeks ago

Saltdean

Blimey, this is going to be ugly. Most people do not want electric vehicles. I can see new petrol and diesel cars being imported, and the second hand car business becoming very lucrative. Then there are the petrol heads, they will never buy electric…

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
3 weeks ago

Hastings

So I guess in 2029 car demand will be high and prices will start to increase as people buy to avoid going electric.

Might even be worth the investment of getting a couple and storing.

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By *abioMan
3 weeks ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

With new hybrids being allowed to be bought up till 2035 that will take a lot of the pressure off anyway

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By *ools and the brainCouple
3 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.


"Blimey, this is going to be ugly. Most people do not want electric vehicles. I can see new petrol and diesel cars being imported, and the second hand car business becoming very lucrative. Then there are the petrol heads, they will never buy electric…"

Second hand car market is already very lucrative has been since lockdown.

Paying waaaaaayyyyy over the odds for a second,third or even fourth hand vehicular vehicle.

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By *regoniansCouple
3 weeks ago

Oundle

A company I do some work for delivers hundreds of new EVs a day. Last week I delivered a new EV van to British Gas. The bloke said the vans are f**cking useless but the engineers love them. Why? Because by 1330-1400 they need recharging so they hook up to a charger, have a kip for an hour or two after which they only have time to return to the depot. We hear the same from Royal Mail, DPD and many others. Yesterday we pulled up at the sole 50kw charger at the Prince William pub in Castleford to find a JC Decaux driver fast asleep in his van hooked up to the charger, which showed he had put on 82% charge and still had 20 odd minutes to go. We took a photo as it meant we would have had to wait to charge a new Ford Capri EV. The government hasn't even had the lost productivity penny drop yet - EV vans are simply not viable.

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By *exy_HornyCouple
3 weeks ago

Leigh


"A company I do some work for delivers hundreds of new EVs a day. Last week I delivered a new EV van to British Gas. The bloke said the vans are f**cking useless but the engineers love them. Why? Because by 1330-1400 they need recharging so they hook up to a charger, have a kip for an hour or two after which they only have time to return to the depot. We hear the same from Royal Mail, DPD and many others. Yesterday we pulled up at the sole 50kw charger at the Prince William pub in Castleford to find a JC Decaux driver fast asleep in his van hooked up to the charger, which showed he had put on 82% charge and still had 20 odd minutes to go. We took a photo as it meant we would have had to wait to charge a new Ford Capri EV. The government hasn't even had the lost productivity penny drop yet - EV vans are simply not viable."

Exactly.

We went to Scotland in the motorhome last weekend. 3.5 tonnes and the aerodynamics of a brick. After 325 miles we took 5 minutes to put 75 litres of diesel in the tank, which gives a real world range of about 400 miles on the 90 litre tank.

If the van was electric it would weigh about 4 tonnes and would be likely to need charging after not much more than 100 miles. Fast charging costs at least as much as diesel.

Completely impractical.

Having said that, for the car, we do shorter journeys and could charge at home so that would be OK. Except for the purchase price difference.

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
3 weeks ago

Horsham


"A company I do some work for delivers hundreds of new EVs a day. Last week I delivered a new EV van to British Gas. The bloke said the vans are f**cking useless but the engineers love them. Why? Because by 1330-1400 they need recharging so they hook up to a charger, have a kip for an hour or two after which they only have time to return to the depot. We hear the same from Royal Mail, DPD and many others. Yesterday we pulled up at the sole 50kw charger at the Prince William pub in Castleford to find a JC Decaux driver fast asleep in his van hooked up to the charger, which showed he had put on 82% charge and still had 20 odd minutes to go. We took a photo as it meant we would have had to wait to charge a new Ford Capri EV. The government hasn't even had the lost productivity penny drop yet - EV vans are simply not viable.

Exactly.

We went to Scotland in the motorhome last weekend. 3.5 tonnes and the aerodynamics of a brick. After 325 miles we took 5 minutes to put 75 litres of diesel in the tank, which gives a real world range of about 400 miles on the 90 litre tank.

If the van was electric it would weigh about 4 tonnes and would be likely to need charging after not much more than 100 miles. Fast charging costs at least as much as diesel.

Completely impractical.

Having said that, for the car, we do shorter journeys and could charge at home so that would be OK. Except for the purchase price difference."

Depends on the company, I used to pay between 60p and 90p a unit to charge my XC40 ev. It would charge it in an hour, but it would cost more than a tank of diesel.

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By *uffleskloofMan
3 weeks ago

Walsall

I don’t think anyone seriously believes that these petrol and diesel bans will happen.

Maybe Miliband does but he won’t be around in five years time anyway.

Colossal waste of resources developing products that nobody wants to buy. Just another fine example of Soviet era central planning. The government tractor department says we need a million of them so that’s what everyone has to produce.

In part the car companies have to blame themselves. They’ve gone along with this nonsense and were either too brainwashed by DEI or too cowardly to say anything. It was only when Toyota started raising concerns that we heard a squeak out of the rest of them.

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By *agan_PairCouple
3 weeks ago

portchester


"I don’t think anyone seriously believes that these petrol and diesel bans will happen.

Maybe Miliband does but he won’t be around in five years time anyway.

Colossal waste of resources developing products that nobody wants to buy. Just another fine example of Soviet era central planning. The government tractor department says we need a million of them so that’s what everyone has to produce.

In part the car companies have to blame themselves. They’ve gone along with this nonsense and were either too brainwashed by DEI or too cowardly to say anything. It was only when Toyota started raising concerns that we heard a squeak out of the rest of them.

"

Looks like small batch luxury dealers (Aston, McLaren etc) have also been excluded for the 2030 ban too

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By *arakiss12TV/TS
3 weeks ago

Bedford

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By *arakiss12TV/TS
3 weeks ago

Bedford


"A company I do some work for delivers hundreds of new EVs a day. Last week I delivered a new EV van to British Gas. The bloke said the vans are f**cking useless but the engineers love them. Why? Because by 1330-1400 they need recharging so they hook up to a charger, have a kip for an hour or two after which they only have time to return to the depot. We hear the same from Royal Mail, DPD and many others. Yesterday we pulled up at the sole 50kw charger at the Prince William pub in Castleford to find a JC Decaux driver fast asleep in his van hooked up to the charger, which showed he had put on 82% charge and still had 20 odd minutes to go. We took a photo as it meant we would have had to wait to charge a new Ford Capri EV. The government hasn't even had the lost productivity penny drop yet - EV vans are simply not viable."

Like I said clueless government.

The carbon footprint producing the cars, batteries, installation infrastructure and maintenance is more than the current situation and it won't pay for itself in our lifetime and probably not the next generations.

Why not have 2 or 4 catalytic convertors on exhausts.

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By *0shadesOfFilth OP   Man
3 weeks ago

nearby

The manufacturers are currently forced down this path.

Last year was the start, in 2024 UK car manufacturers were mandated to sell 22% of new cars as pure electric cars (BEVs), but the actual market share achieved was 19.6%. New vans had to be at least 10% electric.

£15,000 fine on the manufacturer selling non EV sold over the mandated threshold.

This year the threshold increases to 28% for cars and 16% for vans.

The mandate aims for 80% of new cars and 70% of new vans to be zero-emission by 2030, with the goal of all light-duty vehicles being zero-emission by 2035 - now to be brought forward to 2030.

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By *arakiss12TV/TS
3 weeks ago

Bedford

Hawaii and Iceland volcanoes, natural gas leakage and cow farts are doing more damage. The problem will still be around even without petrol diesel cars.

The only positive is less vehicles on the road because people won't be able to home charge or just totally reject buying an ev. Lithium is too expensive and sl@ve laboured.

Personally I'm sticking with petrol. I'll be retired from driving before they are totally banned.

Japanese are working on a hydrogen gas/formic acid battery fueled car using water on a self charging recycle system, that's sounds better.

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By *2000ManMan
3 weeks ago

Worthing

With the move to "net zero", we do not have the stable energy infastructure to support a move to ev.

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By *ools and the brainCouple
3 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.

I bet the french won't tow the net zero line, guaranteed the farmers will blockade charge points and prevent EVs being used.

And I agree they are a collosal waste of time and valuable natural resources.

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