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By *andadbod OP   Man
1 week ago

Liverpool

So we’ve just been told that we’re not getting a payrise this year because of Labours taxes that have been introduced, management are blaming labours new NI tax on employers but the workforce are seeing is a piss poor management and should have already prepared themselves for it, specially as the company is spending money in all the wrong places.

Thoughts?

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By *ools and the brainCouple
1 week ago

couple, us we him her.

Politics section

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By *otMe66Man
1 week ago

Terra Firma


"So we’ve just been told that we’re not getting a payrise this year because of Labours taxes that have been introduced, management are blaming labours new NI tax on employers but the workforce are seeing is a piss poor management and should have already prepared themselves for it, specially as the company is spending money in all the wrong places.

Thoughts?"

Don't you remember what Reeves said, when she acknowledged that the NI tax increases would likely impact wage growth.

We all knew this was going to happen and it is going to get worse.

Out of interest how do businesses prepare for costs they hadn't factored in less than 6 months ago?

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By *aughtystaffs60Couple
1 week ago

Staffordshire

Suck it up and endure or lose your job.

The economy was growing till Reeves etc took over. They are solely to blame for this fiasco and you wage increase has gone to fund NHS bureaucracy, Railwaymen, junior doctors and soon to bin men in Birmingham.

Enjoy.

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan
1 week ago

nearby

There’s more businesses closing than opening

Economic growth outlook halved

Housing starts and completions down

Car sales down

Tourism down

Online and retail down

Unemployment up

Business rates and employer NI up

Significant turn in economy since Labour took office.

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan
1 week ago

nearby

More tax rises and a rumoured raid on pensions coming in the autumn, because Reeves previously announced tax rises are not enough/miscalculation.

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By *aughtystaffs60Couple
1 week ago

Staffordshire

It's back to the 70s with this lot. Even got the rubbish piling up on our streets and instead of 4 years to achieve that they've managed it in 6 months.

the pips are squeaking again and the Pips are leaving the country in droves and heading off to places like Dubai etc.

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By *hrill CollinsMan
1 week ago

The Outer Rim

disagree .... wages have increased by £3 an hour in our trade over this time last year and business is booming

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By *eroy1000Man
1 week ago

milton keynes


"There’s more businesses closing than opening

Economic growth outlook halved

Housing starts and completions down

Car sales down

Tourism down

Online and retail down

Unemployment up

Business rates and employer NI up

Significant turn in economy since Labour took office. "

Still it's all the Tories fault, or the war in Ukraine or Israel or Trump. Take your pick as long as not looking at the architect

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By *crumdiddlyumptiousMan
1 week ago

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3 companies where I work have frozen any pay rises this year and any overtime until further notice.

3 different types of companies, all family owned and the knock on affect has stopped me getting any overtime, Luckily for me my pay rise was already sorted in January but no idea when the next one will come

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By *exy_HornyCouple
1 week ago

Leigh


"So we’ve just been told that we’re not getting a payrise this year because of Labours taxes that have been introduced, management are blaming labours new NI tax on employers but the workforce are seeing is a piss poor management and should have already prepared themselves for it, specially as the company is spending money in all the wrong places.

Thoughts?"

By my calculation for a worker earning £35k the increase in NI is costing their employer about 4.5%.

More for lower paid, less for higher paid.

So that is money for a reasonable pay rise going straight to the government.

At least Public Sector workers got a rise.

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By *aughtystaffs60Couple
1 week ago

Staffordshire


"So we’ve just been told that we’re not getting a payrise this year because of Labours taxes that have been introduced, management are blaming labours new NI tax on employers but the workforce are seeing is a piss poor management and should have already prepared themselves for it, specially as the company is spending money in all the wrong places.

Thoughts?

By my calculation for a worker earning £35k the increase in NI is costing their employer about 4.5%.

More for lower paid, less for higher paid.

So that is money for a reasonable pay rise going straight to the government.

At least Public Sector workers got a rise."

The technical term is Austerity. Enjoy..

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By *hirleyMan
1 week ago

somewhere


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The economy was growing till Reeves etc took over.

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Can you provide any truth or context to that statement?

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan
1 week ago

nearby


"

The economy was growing till Reeves etc took over.

Can you provide any truth or context to that statement?"

UK GDP increased by 0.1% in 2023, following growth of 4.3% in 2022. (ONS)

In 2024 economic growth was 0.8, following the GE the OBR has growth stated at 2% in October 2024, now halved to 1% at March 2025. (ONS and OBR)

In 2023 the unemployment rate was 4%, rising to 4.3% in 2024, and currently 4.5% (ONS)

Britain has recorded its highest number of company closures for two decades, with the final quarter of 2024 seeing 198,046 businesses struck off the official register. The figure, revealed by research firm Beauhurst, surpasses levels last reached in 2021 and in the aftermath of the 2008 financial crisis. (17 Jan 2025)

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By *arluk1973Man
7 days ago

Leeds

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By *9alMan
7 days ago

Bridgend


"So we’ve just been told that we’re not getting a payrise this year because of Labours taxes that have been introduced, management are blaming labours new NI tax on employers but the workforce are seeing is a piss poor management and should have already prepared themselves for it, specially as the company is spending money in all the wrong places.

Thoughts?"

its a bit of both, management are always looking for an excuse not to increase wages & the government has given them one

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
7 days ago

Hastings


"So we’ve just been told that we’re not getting a payrise this year because of Labours taxes that have been introduced, management are blaming labours new NI tax on employers but the workforce are seeing is a piss poor management and should have already prepared themselves for it, specially as the company is spending money in all the wrong places.

Thoughts?"

To be honest if you don't like it leave and get a job somewhere else. Or suck it up work as hard as you can and hope.

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By *end1Man
7 days ago

southend on sea

Let's face it despite the what the Tories say now their the opposition they only ever looked after the rich! They shat on the worst off. At the moment labour are just following the same trend they are no longer the party for the people. We need to hit the reset button and look for a new way forward.

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By *uddy laneMan
7 days ago

dudley


"Let's face it despite the what the Tories say now their the opposition they only ever looked after the rich! They shat on the worst off. At the moment labour are just following the same trend they are no longer the party for the people. We need to hit the reset button and look for a new way forward."

How about just for once, we stop that bloke knocking in the back door with his big black rod.

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By *hirleyMan
7 days ago

somewhere


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To be honest if you don't like it leave and get a job somewhere else. "

Unless you're enjoying the decline in UK society the issue is that many people are doing just what you say, taking that advice and making like trees right now... They have been for at least ten years in large numbers, I bet I would struggle to speak to anyone these days who doesn’t know someone personally who has done just that. Many of the would-be tax paying, but more importantly productivity generating professionals who don't find the UK an attractive proposition anymore, because it simply isn't for the majority.

Work don't pay.

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By *andadbod OP   Man
6 days ago

Liverpool

Some thoughtful comments there, i don’t have the option to just leave though cause I don’t like it, i won’t bore you with the details why, but today was quite laughable, the director was being overly nice to everyone and has just quietly left to go to Aintree Racecourse for the rest of the day, looking after number one 🙄

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By *estivalMan
6 days ago

borehamwood


"Some thoughtful comments there, i don’t have the option to just leave though cause I don’t like it, i won’t bore you with the details why, but today was quite laughable, the director was being overly nice to everyone and has just quietly left to go to Aintree Racecourse for the rest of the day, looking after number one 🙄"
that's the perks of running a company,why anyone thinks management would share the wealth is beyond me,the reason they are in those positions is because of there attitudes

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