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"I’m always amazed how somehow we in the UK are responsible for so much plastic waste landing on beaches in far off countries when most people here drop their plastic bottles in the recycling. I guess somewhere in the country there must be millions of people throwing all their plastic in the ocean and it makes its way to the Maldives and gets stuck on the head of some unfortunate turtle." Hardly any of our plastic is actually recycled. Most is still burned or sent to landfill. Another con tbh. | |||
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"Hardly any of our plastic is actually recycled. Most is still burned or sent to landfill. Another con tbh." I've been religiously putting the hard plastics in a separate bin for over a decade now. Every week the council take it away. I would like to believe they are doing something with it, else why collect it ? Is it time to start fining councils millions for not keeping their end of the bargain ? | |||
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"Hardly any of our plastic is actually recycled. Most is still burned or sent to landfill. Another con tbh. I've been religiously putting the hard plastics in a separate bin for over a decade now. Every week the council take it away. I would like to believe they are doing something with it, else why collect it ? Is it time to start fining councils millions for not keeping their end of the bargain ?" I believe plastic recycling rates are about 10%. To be fair it is extremely difficult to recycle cheaply, unlike glass, metal or paper. | |||
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"I think it was Sky News that did a special report on this a few years ago. It showed mountains of UK plastic that had been sent to China. The owner of the recycling company was refusing to take more as most of it was unfit for recycling. The same report showed another huge dump in Poland. When inspected the reporter found recycling bags from his own home council. " A lot of criminal gangs are involved- it's high profit and low risk/punishment. As long as Councils get the paperwork to say its being disposed of properly they don't ask many questions. | |||
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"I watch each fortnight as my carefully recycled glass is thrown in with the plastic ....kind of says it all ... " That is bad a glass is relatively easy and cheap to recycle. | |||
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"The BBC has found that millions of tyres sent to India for 'recycling' were either resold or dumped in landfill. Does anyone really believe the material we send abroad is ever actually recycled ? Should we be obliged to deal with all our rubbish ourselves?" I'm beyond believing in personal recycling anymore. What is the point 😐 | |||
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"The BBC has found that millions of tyres sent to India for 'recycling' were either resold or dumped in landfill. Does anyone really believe the material we send abroad is ever actually recycled ? Should we be obliged to deal with all our rubbish ourselves? I'm beyond believing in personal recycling anymore. What is the point 😐" That's sad but understandable. There is a real lack of transparency in the recycling industry. | |||
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"The BBC has found that millions of tyres sent to India for 'recycling' were either resold or dumped in landfill. Does anyone really believe the material we send abroad is ever actually recycled ? Should we be obliged to deal with all our rubbish ourselves? I'm beyond believing in personal recycling anymore. What is the point 😐 That's sad but understandable. There is a real lack of transparency in the recycling industry." Individual efforts are just a drop in the ocean as well (eeek bad choice of words, but you know what I mean) | |||
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"Hardly any of our plastic is actually recycled. Most is still burned or sent to landfill. Another con tbh. I've been religiously putting the hard plastics in a separate bin for over a decade now. Every week the council take it away. I would like to believe they are doing something with it, else why collect it ? Is it time to start fining councils millions for not keeping their end of the bargain ? I believe plastic recycling rates are about 10%. To be fair it is extremely difficult to recycle cheaply, unlike glass, metal or paper." Its finding the storage for the plastic to be recycled and processed plastic that's part of the problem, Recycling yards can only store so much before it becomes a fire hazard with all the lithium batteries | |||
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"I’m always amazed how somehow we in the UK are responsible for so much plastic waste landing on beaches in far off countries when most people here drop their plastic bottles in the recycling. I guess somewhere in the country there must be millions of people throwing all their plastic in the ocean and it makes its way to the Maldives and gets stuck on the head of some unfortunate turtle." You could look to the shipping industry, they used to fill a bin bag bag with heavy items and chuck it overboard. Once the binbag breaks apart, the contents will go where they like. It might contribute a smal portion of it, but it has been going on for years. | |||
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""I've been religiously putting the hard plastics in a separate bin for over a decade now. Every week the council take it away. I would like to believe they are doing something with it, else why collect it ?" My (German) wife's brother-in-law was a truck driver. When green bins, brown bins, bottle bins etc. began in Germany, he saw the opportunity, bought a refuse collection truck, started his own business. Within a couple of years he had a fleet with a couple of dozen employees. Whereas he'd been the happiest guy alive alone on the road, the stress of running a business wasn't his thing, he died after a couple of years, but that's not the point of the story... The family was shocked that his trucks were collecting waste from different sources, sorted as laid down, then delivering it all to the same place and the same landfill. How come? Central government gave incentives to Councils to sort their waste, which they did and collected the cash. There was no obligation to do anything with the waste, so they didn't. Whether that's true today I don't know..." I also have a German wife. At our house in Germany they changed the rules a few years ago and now metal cans and any sort of glossy paper/cardboard are also to be placed in the yellow (plastic) bin. How the hell they sort that I've no idea. But one cigarette butt in the brown (garden waste) bin and they will be on you like a ton of bricks. Bottom line is, like most of the green agenda, it's all about money. Whether that be from exporting the "recycling" or fining unfortunate home owners. Wheelie bins should have "scam alert" printed on the side. | |||
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"The BBC has found that millions of tyres sent to India for 'recycling' were either resold or dumped in landfill. Does anyone really believe the material we send abroad is ever actually recycled ? Should we be obliged to deal with all our rubbish ourselves? I'm beyond believing in personal recycling anymore. What is the point 😐" Agree to an extent there. I use as little plastic as possible, and try ensure the plastic I do use is one of the easily recyclable forms that do get processed more often, but it's hard when our modern world has become so utterly dependent on it and built around it. The petrochemical industry knew early on that we wouldn't have the logistical capacity or the means to recycle the amount needed but instead of recognising that limit and avoiding pushing it into industries where it wasn't needed, they marketed very heavily on the fact that these things "could be recycled" even if they wouldn't be, putting the burden on consumers as we got more and more addicted to the point that plastic is everywhere, including inside our brains, placenta, babies in utero, men's testes among others. It's just like how BP came up with the term "carbon footprint" to put the responsibility of climate change on normal people who are often very powerless to change how society is structured and functions so the population may focus on that instead of seeing that the biggest polluters are huge companies that get away with so much across the world as long as they're profitable. | |||
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"perhaps people should take responsibility for what they purchase as regards to how it's packaged instead of wanting the council to wipe they're arse for them when it comes to disposal of packaging." Much easier said than done. | |||
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"perhaps people should take responsibility for what they purchase as regards to how it's packaged instead of wanting the council to wipe they're arse for them when it comes to disposal of packaging. Much easier said than done." i disagree .... it's very very easy unless one actually doesn't give a fuck, which then makes one part of the problem | |||
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"perhaps people should take responsibility for what they purchase as regards to how it's packaged instead of wanting the council to wipe they're arse for them when it comes to disposal of packaging. Much easier said than done. i disagree .... it's very very easy unless one actually doesn't give a fuck, which then makes one part of the problem " Really? So pray tell me how someone could buy a pound of mince or a bag of carrots, a tin of beans maybe? A bottle of water (if you don't like the tap stuff of course) or any frozen product. Not everyone has the luxury of a farmers market, butchers shop or greengrocer on their doorstep. Maybe you would prefer that they drive their diesel car 10 miles to get "green" packaging. | |||
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"perhaps people should take responsibility for what they purchase as regards to how it's packaged instead of wanting the council to wipe they're arse for them when it comes to disposal of packaging." 🤦 | |||
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