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By *eroy1000 OP   Man
3 weeks ago

milton keynes

Seen this story on the BBC website the other day. Is this a credible idea to help the on going and worsening problems with asylum seekers ? To be clear this proposal is for those that have been processed, failed their application and all their appeals but cannot be returned to their country of origin as it is deemed to dangerous. They call it a returns hub and the EU are also exploring this. Apparently it may save money and help local authorities who are duty bound to give these people accommodation though presumably the host countries will want paying. Italy have tried using Albania as a processing centre but the Italian courts have so far thwarted this (sounds familiar).

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By *oubleswing2019Man
3 weeks ago

Colchester

I'll give you a hypothetical.

Let's assume I need to flee the UK because it's not safe for me to live here.

I arrive in France and claim asylum there.

The French should absolutely have the right to do 2 things.

1. Report my country to some external worldwide authority for war crimes / failure to protect their own citizens. International arrest warrants for the leadership of said country for failure to protect their citizens.

2. Charge the UK to cover the costs of my stay in France until I become naturalised. Seizure of UK property/assets if necessary to recoup the costs.

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I don't mind taking others in. But I do mind other sovereign nations not being held to account and acting with impunity.

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By *end1Man
3 weeks ago

southend on sea


"I'll give you a hypothetical.

Let's assume I need to flee the UK because it's not safe for me to live here.

I arrive in France and claim asylum there.

The French should absolutely have the right to do 2 things.

1. Report my country to some external worldwide authority for war crimes / failure to protect their own citizens. International arrest warrants for the leadership of said country for failure to protect their citizens.

2. Charge the UK to cover the costs of my stay in France until I become naturalised. Seizure of UK property/assets if necessary to recoup the costs.

.

I don't mind taking others in. But I do mind other sovereign nations not being held to account and acting with impunity."

now that sounds like a great idea and one step further if you throw away your passport and you claim to be from whatever country that's where your be deported too no appeal.

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By *eroy1000 OP   Man
3 weeks ago

milton keynes


"I'll give you a hypothetical.

Let's assume I need to flee the UK because it's not safe for me to live here.

I arrive in France and claim asylum there.

The French should absolutely have the right to do 2 things.

1. Report my country to some external worldwide authority for war crimes / failure to protect their own citizens. International arrest warrants for the leadership of said country for failure to protect their citizens.

2. Charge the UK to cover the costs of my stay in France until I become naturalised. Seizure of UK property/assets if necessary to recoup the costs.

.

I don't mind taking others in. But I do mind other sovereign nations not being held to account and acting with impunity.now that sounds like a great idea and one step further if you throw away your passport and you claim to be from whatever country that's where your be deported too no appeal."

It seems that if a person claims to be from particular countries that are deemed to be unsafe, then they cannot be deported there even after failing their application for asylum and the appeals process. Basically they cannot be either sent home or accepted into the UK on a permanent basis. All the time the tax payer is obliged to support them. Italy are trying a similar approach but got bogged down with legal challenges

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By *end1Man
3 weeks ago

southend on sea


"I'll give you a hypothetical.

Let's assume I need to flee the UK because it's not safe for me to live here.

I arrive in France and claim asylum there.

The French should absolutely have the right to do 2 things.

1. Report my country to some external worldwide authority for war crimes / failure to protect their own citizens. International arrest warrants for the leadership of said country for failure to protect their citizens.

2. Charge the UK to cover the costs of my stay in France until I become naturalised. Seizure of UK property/assets if necessary to recoup the costs.

.

I don't mind taking others in. But I do mind other sovereign nations not being held to account and acting with impunity.now that sounds like a great idea and one step further if you throw away your passport and you claim to be from whatever country that's where your be deported too no appeal.

It seems that if a person claims to be from particular countries that are deemed to be unsafe, then they cannot be deported there even after failing their application for asylum and the appeals process. Basically they cannot be either sent home or accepted into the UK on a permanent basis. All the time the tax payer is obliged to support them. Italy are trying a similar approach but got bogged down with legal challenges"

and that's the problem we as a country need to grow some backbone and say to other countries enough is enough. No appeals straight on the next available flight. Let's not forget these people have already entered safe countries before they jump on a dingy!

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By *eroy1000 OP   Man
3 weeks ago

milton keynes


"I'll give you a hypothetical.

Let's assume I need to flee the UK because it's not safe for me to live here.

I arrive in France and claim asylum there.

The French should absolutely have the right to do 2 things.

1. Report my country to some external worldwide authority for war crimes / failure to protect their own citizens. International arrest warrants for the leadership of said country for failure to protect their citizens.

2. Charge the UK to cover the costs of my stay in France until I become naturalised. Seizure of UK property/assets if necessary to recoup the costs.

.

I don't mind taking others in. But I do mind other sovereign nations not being held to account and acting with impunity.now that sounds like a great idea and one step further if you throw away your passport and you claim to be from whatever country that's where your be deported too no appeal.

It seems that if a person claims to be from particular countries that are deemed to be unsafe, then they cannot be deported there even after failing their application for asylum and the appeals process. Basically they cannot be either sent home or accepted into the UK on a permanent basis. All the time the tax payer is obliged to support them. Italy are trying a similar approach but got bogged down with legal challenges and that's the problem we as a country need to grow some backbone and say to other countries enough is enough. No appeals straight on the next available flight. Let's not forget these people have already entered safe countries before they jump on a dingy!"

I understand what your saying but urge you not to hold your breath waiting for that to happen

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