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"So in 2023 labour stated they would stop hotels being used for illegal immigrants yet today admit hotels will be used for years to come! Costing the taxpayers millions. So what's the solution? Do we grow a backbone and and stick 2 fingers up and get the navy to patrol and stop the boats and return them to the french beaches. We pay millions to the French to stop them well that's clearly failing." This is what I do, if a politician or political party say they will or won't do something, I always go 180% opposite and shout at the telly or radio saying no you won't you will do to the opposite, I just wished the bookies took bets on it.   | |||
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"So in 2023 labour stated they would stop hotels being used for illegal immigrants yet today admit hotels will be used for years to come! Costing the taxpayers millions. So what's the solution? Do we grow a backbone and and stick 2 fingers up and get the navy to patrol and stop the boats and return them to the french beaches. We pay millions to the French to stop them well that's clearly failing." To be fair to Labour they need time build the 1.5 million houses to put them in. | |||
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"Why has the UK failed to construct purpose made detention centres that are big enough and fit for purpose, providing adequate facilities to allow people to be treated in a humane way with medical and educational services. Small geek islands are capable of this, Turkey who have taken in more refugees than anyone have managed. Is it because the areas where we have enough room to build such facilities also happen to be near wealthy land owners and the landed gentry being utter NIMBY'S. Also there's no profit in this for the people who own the hotels." The mod has 10,000 long term empty properties the taxpayer pays £25M annually to maintain. | |||
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"So in 2023 labour stated they would stop hotels being used for illegal immigrants yet today admit hotels will be used for years to come! Costing the taxpayers millions. So what's the solution? Do we grow a backbone and and stick 2 fingers up and get the navy to patrol and stop the boats and return them to the french beaches. We pay millions to the French to stop them well that's clearly failing. To be fair to Labour they need time build the 1.5 million houses to put them in. "That’s 824 housing completions a day. One every two minutes. How did Rayner get away with such a lie | |||
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"Why has the UK failed to construct purpose made detention centres that are big enough and fit for purpose, providing adequate facilities to allow people to be treated in a humane way with medical and educational services. Small geek islands are capable of this, Turkey who have taken in more refugees than anyone have managed. Is it because the areas where we have enough room to build such facilities also happen to be near wealthy land owners and the landed gentry being utter NIMBY'S. Also there's no profit in this for the people who own the hotels." Presumably there would be lots of profit in it for the private companies who would be paid to build and run them…. Educational services would be great. Given that all of these people are doctors and engineers would be a great opportunity for them to share their expertise with the thick Brits. Maybe even the “landed gentry” may pop in for afternoon tea. Hopefully we can all have access to the medical services they offer. I can’t get an appointment with my GP for love nor money. Maybe the solution is to have dedicated surgeries operating at asylum centres where a few appointments will be offered to native Brits each week if it doesn’t interfere too much with the services available to “refugees”. | |||
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"So in 2023 labour stated they would stop hotels being used for illegal immigrants yet today admit hotels will be used for years to come! Costing the taxpayers millions. So what's the solution? Do we grow a backbone and and stick 2 fingers up and get the navy to patrol and stop the boats and return them to the french beaches. We pay millions to the French to stop them well that's clearly failing. To be fair to Labour they need time build the 1.5 million houses to put them in.
That’s 824 housing completions a day. One every two minutes. How did Rayner get away with such a lie "Added to this figure, which assumes . Builders will be working 24/7 . 365 days a year. Plus no allowance for weather. ? Although retired . I know some builders who either work for themselves or employed by others. Most finished work for Christmas , New Year 2024/2025. On Friday the 20th December 2024 and went back to work on Monday 6th January 2025. So according to this for above house builds. Over 13,000 houses not completed . Lot to catch up on ? | |||
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"Why has the UK failed to construct purpose made detention centres that are big enough and fit for purpose, providing adequate facilities to allow people to be treated in a humane way with medical and educational services. Small geek islands are capable of this, Turkey who have taken in more refugees than anyone have managed. Is it because the areas where we have enough room to build such facilities also happen to be near wealthy land owners and the landed gentry being utter NIMBY'S. Also there's no profit in this for the people who own the hotels." that's where your wrong it was reported on the news about 6 weeks ago that an hotel owner had made over a million pounds from housing immigrants. | |||
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"It would be cheaper to send the illegal ones back to their countries. Convert existing vacant building into temporary accommodation until they are processed. Why are the legal ones accepted without sponsorship. They should have a legal sponsor and at least one skill for their own benefit to create a living while here." As Andrew Neil pointed out to Sunak, it would be cheaper to send them to boarding school | |||
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"A hotel in Dublin received 68 million in 2024 for hosting immigrants/Ukrainians,it's a very lucrative business here in Ireland " Clearsprings in the last three years has made more than £180m net profit, with about £90m profit in the year ending January 2024 from housing asylum. | |||
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"A hotel in Dublin received 68 million in 2024 for hosting immigrants/Ukrainians,it's a very lucrative business here in Ireland Clearsprings in the last three years has made more than £180m net profit, with about £90m profit in the year ending January 2024 from housing asylum. " The 3 main contractors Serco, Mears and Clearspring who manage the asylum housing are making huge profits, however the property owners will need to refurbish the hotels once their hotel is no longer under contract. I can see a lot of abandoned hotels lying around, another blot on the landscape. | |||
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"So in 2023 labour stated they would stop hotels being used for illegal immigrants yet today admit hotels will be used for years to come! Costing the taxpayers millions. So what's the solution? Do we grow a backbone and and stick 2 fingers up and get the navy to patrol and stop the boats and return them to the french beaches. We pay millions to the French to stop them well that's clearly failing." The navy can't do that. Possibly could of reached an agreement with France if we'd remained in the EU but no chance out of it. | |||
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"So in 2023 labour stated they would stop hotels being used for illegal immigrants yet today admit hotels will be used for years to come! Costing the taxpayers millions. So what's the solution? Do we grow a backbone and and stick 2 fingers up and get the navy to patrol and stop the boats and return them to the french beaches. We pay millions to the French to stop them well that's clearly failing. The navy can't do that. Possibly could of reached an agreement with France if we'd remained in the EU but no chance out of it. " we do have an agreement with france we pay them millions and they are supposed to be stopping them launching there dinghies | |||
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"So in 2023 labour stated they would stop hotels being used for illegal immigrants yet today admit hotels will be used for years to come! Costing the taxpayers millions. So what's the solution? Do we grow a backbone and and stick 2 fingers up and get the navy to patrol and stop the boats and return them to the french beaches. We pay millions to the French to stop them well that's clearly failing. To be fair to Labour they need time build the 1.5 million houses to put them in.
That’s 824 housing completions a day. One every two minutes. How did Rayner get away with such a lie "Probably got Dianne Abbott to review the maths. | |||
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"So in 2023 labour stated they would stop hotels being used for illegal immigrants yet today admit hotels will be used for years to come! Costing the taxpayers millions. So what's the solution? Do we grow a backbone and and stick 2 fingers up and get the navy to patrol and stop the boats and return them to the french beaches. We pay millions to the French to stop them well that's clearly failing. The navy can't do that. Possibly could of reached an agreement with France if we'd remained in the EU but no chance out of it. we do have an agreement with france we pay them millions and they are supposed to be stopping them launching there dinghies " That's a different type of agreement to the one I mentioned. France does employ about 1200 people to prevent crossings. Of those 1200 we pay for about 750 and they prevent approximately 33000 crossing attempts a year. | |||
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"So in 2023 labour stated they would stop hotels being used for illegal immigrants yet today admit hotels will be used for years to come! Costing the taxpayers millions. So what's the solution? Do we grow a backbone and and stick 2 fingers up and get the navy to patrol and stop the boats and return them to the french beaches. We pay millions to the French to stop them well that's clearly failing. The navy can't do that. Possibly could of reached an agreement with France if we'd remained in the EU but no chance out of it. we do have an agreement with france we pay them millions and they are supposed to be stopping them launching there dinghies That's a different type of agreement to the one I mentioned. France does employ about 1200 people to prevent crossings. Of those 1200 we pay for about 750 and they prevent approximately 33000 crossing attempts a year. " I did not know that is how many crossings are being prevented a year, I had to look it up to check. Wow! They are stopping on average over 90 crossing a day every day. Mind blown! | |||
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"So in 2023 labour stated they would stop hotels being used for illegal immigrants yet today admit hotels will be used for years to come! Costing the taxpayers millions. So what's the solution? Do we grow a backbone and and stick 2 fingers up and get the navy to patrol and stop the boats and return them to the french beaches. We pay millions to the French to stop them well that's clearly failing. The navy can't do that. Possibly could of reached an agreement with France if we'd remained in the EU but no chance out of it. we do have an agreement with france we pay them millions and they are supposed to be stopping them launching there dinghies That's a different type of agreement to the one I mentioned. France does employ about 1200 people to prevent crossings. Of those 1200 we pay for about 750 and they prevent approximately 33000 crossing attempts a year. " The UN says 1.2bn more migrants will enter Europe by 2080. The boats crossings and prevented crossings will end up an epidemic | |||
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"So in 2023 labour stated they would stop hotels being used for illegal immigrants yet today admit hotels will be used for years to come! Costing the taxpayers millions. So what's the solution? Do we grow a backbone and and stick 2 fingers up and get the navy to patrol and stop the boats and return them to the french beaches. We pay millions to the French to stop them well that's clearly failing. The navy can't do that. Possibly could of reached an agreement with France if we'd remained in the EU but no chance out of it. we do have an agreement with france we pay them millions and they are supposed to be stopping them launching there dinghies " £500million Sunak agreed to pay France. Add the costs of border force, police, security, preparation and cost of accommodation, food, legal, healthcare, childcare, clothes, schooling, translators, home office caseworkers, courts, costs of administering all this by councils etc Billions every year and the cost will be exponential | |||
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"To my mind if people come illegally then there on there own no government support, no access to NHS, etc. If a guy without children gets next to 0 why should immigrants. Or should everyone be able to request a hotel room for a year. " If you provided nothing to them, then Maslow's hierarchy of needs is going to kick in, driving their behaviour, so you will pay in an alternative, likely more expensive way. Democracy here has driven the country to implement a humane process, rather than an obscene abrogation of responsibility for others. | |||
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"So in 2023 labour stated they would stop hotels being used for illegal immigrants yet today admit hotels will be used for years to come! Costing the taxpayers millions. So what's the solution? Do we grow a backbone and and stick 2 fingers up and get the navy to patrol and stop the boats and return them to the french beaches. We pay millions to the French to stop them well that's clearly failing. The navy can't do that. Possibly could of reached an agreement with France if we'd remained in the EU but no chance out of it. we do have an agreement with france we pay them millions and they are supposed to be stopping them launching there dinghies That's a different type of agreement to the one I mentioned. France does employ about 1200 people to prevent crossings. Of those 1200 we pay for about 750 and they prevent approximately 33000 crossing attempts a year. The UN says 1.2bn more migrants will enter Europe by 2080. The boats crossings and prevented crossings will end up an epidemic " Immigration to Europe has been a silent epidemic for 50 plus years. I'd say we passed critical level in the early 21st century. No idea how to describe it now. The problem is deportation, it's easier to let people stay rather than convince a country to take a citizen back that doesn't want to be there. | |||
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"Never have and never will care about the ‘immigrant crisis’. Just get them working instead of sat around waiting for lengthy procedures. Every one wins "I'm the same if they want to come to this experience island they will get hear some how be it on lorries, boats or airplanes. What really maters is if they are given more than the population paying for them. | |||
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"To my mind if people come illegally then there on there own no government support, no access to NHS, etc. If a guy without children gets next to 0 why should immigrants. Or should everyone be able to request a hotel room for a year. If you provided nothing to them, then Maslow's hierarchy of needs is going to kick in, driving their behaviour, so you will pay in an alternative, likely more expensive way. Democracy here has driven the country to implement a humane process, rather than an obscene abrogation of responsibility for others. " Surly the more you give them the more that will want to come. Above it was mentioned about 90 boats a day would it be OK if each boat had 30 in so could be 1,000,000 a year | |||
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"I watched a video not long ago where all these do gooders was holding up plackades saying immigrants welcome etc. This guy had a microphone and a video team he went up to these idiots and asked can or could you give a room to the immigrants. Not one single do gooder said yes excuses was I rent I don't have room etc!" 8.4 million people living alone in the UK; 30% of all households and 13% of all people living in households. Plenty of spare rooms. | |||
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"A hotel in Dublin received 68 million in 2024 for hosting immigrants/Ukrainians,it's a very lucrative business here in Ireland Clearsprings in the last three years has made more than £180m net profit, with about £90m profit in the year ending January 2024 from housing asylum. The 3 main contractors Serco, Mears and Clearspring who manage the asylum housing are making huge profits, however the property owners will need to refurbish the hotels once their hotel is no longer under contract. I can see a lot of abandoned hotels lying around, another blot on the landscape. " Looks like one of the hotel chains has lost their contract with the government to accommodate asylum seekers or at least been told it will expire. Perhaps other non asylum people can once again use these hotels and some of the former staff get their jobs back. | |||
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"A hotel in Dublin received 68 million in 2024 for hosting immigrants/Ukrainians,it's a very lucrative business here in Ireland Clearsprings in the last three years has made more than £180m net profit, with about £90m profit in the year ending January 2024 from housing asylum. The 3 main contractors Serco, Mears and Clearspring who manage the asylum housing are making huge profits, however the property owners will need to refurbish the hotels once their hotel is no longer under contract. I can see a lot of abandoned hotels lying around, another blot on the landscape. Looks like one of the hotel chains has lost their contract with the government to accommodate asylum seekers or at least been told it will expire. Perhaps other non asylum people can once again use these hotels and some of the former staff get their jobs back." Asylum aside there are record numbers of uk nationals made homeless living in hotels, B&B’s and holiday parks. Temporary accommodation is in crisis. Official data shows that there are more than 117,000 households (not people) in this situation— an increase of 23% in the past three years—including 151,000 children under the age of 16. Big issue in October 2024 reads - ‘more than 3,000 homeless children have been living in hotels for longer than the six-week legal limit, shocking new research shows – an increase of more than 600% in three years.’ Last figure I read was £2.7bn cost housing homeless. I think asylum housing costs are paid separately from foreign aid budget. Add both and an enormous cost to the state, numbers increasing daily ( 37,684 households have been evicted by bailiffs following a Section 21 notice since April 2019). 10,000 long term empty MOD homes costing the taxpayer £25M annually to maintain and over 2 million right to buy sales reducing affordable rent housing stock. | |||
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"A snippet from a BBC article today: Shadow home secretary Chris Philp claimed the number of those using asylum hotels had increased by 8,000 since the general election, despite Labour's pledge to end the use of hotels. He added: "38,000 mainly illegal immigrants are now in those hotels, costing hardworking taxpayers around £2bn a year. "It is completely unacceptable that taxpayers are asked to foot a bill this size. They do not confirm the figures but if accurate makes poor reading" Where does the state house people. The 2010 Tory government cut HA build funding by 50%. Housing affordability under 14 years of tories was increasing dire. Labour promised 1.5 million new homes ‘Labour is on course to miss its housebuilding target by up to 475,000 homes without more grant funding for social housing’ ( inside housing 11 Oct 2024) | |||
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"A snippet from a BBC article today: Shadow home secretary Chris Philp claimed the number of those using asylum hotels had increased by 8,000 since the general election, despite Labour's pledge to end the use of hotels. He added: "38,000 mainly illegal immigrants are now in those hotels, costing hardworking taxpayers around £2bn a year. "It is completely unacceptable that taxpayers are asked to foot a bill this size. They do not confirm the figures but if accurate makes poor reading" Those three profitable asylum housing contracts further up were procured by Philp’s party | |||
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"A snippet from a BBC article today: Shadow home secretary Chris Philp claimed the number of those using asylum hotels had increased by 8,000 since the general election, despite Labour's pledge to end the use of hotels. He added: "38,000 mainly illegal immigrants are now in those hotels, costing hardworking taxpayers around £2bn a year. "It is completely unacceptable that taxpayers are asked to foot a bill this size. They do not confirm the figures but if accurate makes poor reading Those three profitable asylum housing contracts further up were procured by Philp’s party " I was just short a snippet from an article relevant to the topic. I think he is pointing out the increase of 8000 when the government promised to reduce it pre election | |||
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"A snippet from a BBC article today: Shadow home secretary Chris Philp claimed the number of those using asylum hotels had increased by 8,000 since the general election, despite Labour's pledge to end the use of hotels.leroy its cringeworthy when you have the Tories trying to blame everything on labour as it was all Rose's under them lol He added: "38,000 mainly illegal immigrants are now in those hotels, costing hardworking taxpayers around £2bn a year. "It is completely unacceptable that taxpayers are asked to foot a bill this size. They do not confirm the figures but if accurate makes poor reading" | |||
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