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"As a Birmingham resident I can confirm this is correct. No recycling collected for weeks. The Council says we can make use of their recycling centres if we wish. Bins all full. The Council sent a reminder out a few weeks back on a Thursday to take renewal orders for this year’s green waste collections(about £60, up from about £30 when it started a few years ago). Paid. Then on the Monday they emailed to say that the service couldn’t be provided due to strike action, despite taking the money only a few days earlier. Then emailed again earlier this week to say everyone will be getting a refund. Meanwhile a 7.5% Council tax increase and over £100m of cuts. And such is how the heady ideals of Socialism always end." My green bin was £58 last year. | |||
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"Garden waste, just gone up to £40.." start a worm farm maybe? | |||
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"Garden waste, just gone up to £40.." I'd be happy with that, a reduction of 18. | |||
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"Garden waste, just gone up to £40.. start a worm farm maybe? " Done that before, three compost bins..  | |||
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"Garden waste, just gone up to £40.. start a worm farm maybe? Done that before, three compost bins.. "get the rotating ones ..... i've found that huge amounts of garden waste decays down rapidly .... mine are like hungry monsters that take whatever you give ém | |||
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"Garden waste, just gone up to £40.. start a worm farm maybe? Done that before, three compost bins..
get the rotating ones ..... i've found that huge amounts of garden waste decays down rapidly .... mine are like hungry monsters that take whatever you give ém "Tried one of those some twenty years ago, wasn't keen tbh.. | |||
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"Why are people not taking their rubbish to the tip, or better still someone could come in and charge people £1 a bag to remove it. Loads of money and remove some of that union grip that blights the country." more trade union derangement syndrome | |||
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"Yes I do think Britain is creeping back to the 70's. The hard left who control the public sector unions are flexing their muscles again and it won't end well. Labour have no appetite for standing up to them and I see another winter of discontent coming before the next election. The only difference is that the music is crap now." | |||
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"The council's DB pensions liability is absolutely staggering. " All council and indeed public sector liabilities are staggering. £2.3 trillion and counting. | |||
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"Bankrupt Birmingham council has caused "binmageddon’’ Strikes by refuse workers in Birmingham have led to scenes of chaos, with bins piling up on streets, reports of rats, and some residents saying their recycling hasn't been collected in a month. Birmingham Labour run council issued a section 114 notice in 2023 declaring itself bankrupt after botched IT and other mismanagement of finances. The government rejected the councils request for a 9.9% council tax rise. Unite union members began on-off strikes in January, but just over a week ago moved to all-out action in a dispute over pay and working conditions. " Not quite sure what you're trying to say or ask OP? Are you saying that if birmingham didn't have labour councillors it would not have strikes? Are you asking if council tax should be increased. What are you saying/asking about strike action? | |||
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"Birmingham is a failed City, politically. A real tragedy for Britain's Second City. "What does that mean; "Failed politically"? | |||
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"Why are people not taking their rubbish to the tip, or better still someone could come in and charge people £1 a bag to remove it. Loads of money and remove some of that union grip that blights the country." Probably because they already pay the Council to take the rubbish away. Difficult to justify paying someone else to do it as well, or spend one’s own time and money taking it to the tip. One should really get a refund off the Council when it fails to provide services that taxpayers are paying for. It would be more of an incentive to sort these union issues out. In principle I agree that taxpayers should be entitled to opt out of these kinds of Council service and pay someone else to do it privately. The same should go for things like schools, hospitals etc. And probably even the police. Given that the police don’t bother with property crime nowadays maybe one should be able to opt out and use the money to pay for private security. | |||
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"Bankrupt Birmingham council has caused "binmageddon’’ Strikes by refuse workers in Birmingham have led to scenes of chaos, with bins piling up on streets, reports of rats, and some residents saying their recycling hasn't been collected in a month. Birmingham Labour run council issued a section 114 notice in 2023 declaring itself bankrupt after botched IT and other mismanagement of finances. The government rejected the councils request for a 9.9% council tax rise. Unite union members began on-off strikes in January, but just over a week ago moved to all-out action in a dispute over pay and working conditions. " Seen this today on the Bbc site. Seems the pest control people are doing a good trade from it all given the increases in rat's. Maybe this is the growth Labour promised  | |||
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"Why are people not taking their rubbish to the tip, or better still someone could come in and charge people £1 a bag to remove it. Loads of money and remove some of that union grip that blights the country." It’s actually against the law to remove other people’s and businesses waste for money unless you have a waste transfer license . Which costs money and supposed to cut down on dumping. | |||
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"Why are people not taking their rubbish to the tip, or better still someone could come in and charge people £1 a bag to remove it. Loads of money and remove some of that union grip that blights the country. It’s actually against the law to remove other people’s and businesses waste for money unless you have a waste transfer license . Which costs money and supposed to cut down on dumping." I think you missed the point.... Which was why should people be forced to be monopolised, when better alternatives exist. | |||
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"Why are people not taking their rubbish to the tip, or better still someone could come in and charge people £1 a bag to remove it. Loads of money and remove some of that union grip that blights the country. Probably because they already pay the Council to take the rubbish away. Difficult to justify paying someone else to do it as well, or spend one’s own time and money taking it to the tip. One should really get a refund off the Council when it fails to provide services that taxpayers are paying for. It would be more of an incentive to sort these union issues out. In principle I agree that taxpayers should be entitled to opt out of these kinds of Council service and pay someone else to do it privately. The same should go for things like schools, hospitals etc. And probably even the police. Given that the police don’t bother with property crime nowadays maybe one should be able to opt out and use the money to pay for private security." Looking at the images of rubbish on the streets of Birmingham, going a private route has got to be an alternative to a council that has lost control. I'm know a number of roads that are private, they have private waste collections, road repairs and some security, although they still pay top band council tax. | |||
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"Why are people not taking their rubbish to the tip, or better still someone could come in and charge people £1 a bag to remove it. Loads of money and remove some of that union grip that blights the country." Can you imagine the reaction you'd get at the tip if you turned up with a van full of rubbish bags? It's bad enough if you try to take your own down there. | |||
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"Why are people not taking their rubbish to the tip, or better still someone could come in and charge people £1 a bag to remove it. Loads of money and remove some of that union grip that blights the country. Can you imagine the reaction you'd get at the tip if you turned up with a van full of rubbish bags? It's bad enough if you try to take your own down there. " Think big, hire the big refuse lorry a driver and 2 labourers  . The council should not have a monopoly especially if they can't manage it on behalf of the people they have taken money from. | |||
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"Bankrupt Birmingham council has caused "binmageddon’’ Strikes by refuse workers in Birmingham have led to scenes of chaos, with bins piling up on streets, reports of rats, and some residents saying their recycling hasn't been collected in a month. Birmingham Labour run council issued a section 114 notice in 2023 declaring itself bankrupt after botched IT and other mismanagement of finances. The government rejected the councils request for a 9.9% council tax rise. Unite union members began on-off strikes in January, but just over a week ago moved to all-out action in a dispute over pay and working conditions. Seen this today on the Bbc site. Seems the pest control people are doing a good trade from it all given the increases in rat's. Maybe this is the growth Labour promised " | |||
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"Why are people not taking their rubbish to the tip, or better still someone could come in and charge people £1 a bag to remove it. Loads of money and remove some of that union grip that blights the country. Can you imagine the reaction you'd get at the tip if you turned up with a van full of rubbish bags? It's bad enough if you try to take your own down there. Think big, hire the big refuse lorry a driver and 2 labourers . The council should not have a monopoly especially if they can't manage it on behalf of the people they have taken money from. "They collect enough money. It’s what they waste it on Plymouth city council costed the city centre refurbishment at £11.7m, then illegally removed 96 trees in the middle of the night which made national headlines, the refurbishment now at £36.8m and not finished. £764,000 spent on a cast iron statue of rusty reg on Plymouth hoe. Bin collections switched to fortnightly at the time to save £700,000 a year. | |||
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"Why are people not taking their rubbish to the tip, or better still someone could come in and charge people £1 a bag to remove it. Loads of money and remove some of that union grip that blights the country. Can you imagine the reaction you'd get at the tip if you turned up with a van full of rubbish bags? It's bad enough if you try to take your own down there. Think big, hire the big refuse lorry a driver and 2 labourers . The council should not have a monopoly especially if they can't manage it on behalf of the people they have taken money from.
They collect enough money. It’s what they waste it on
Plymouth city council costed the city centre refurbishment at £11.7m, then illegally removed 96 trees in the middle of the night which made national headlines, the refurbishment now at £36.8m and not finished. £764,000 spent on a cast iron statue of rusty reg on Plymouth hoe.
Bin collections switched to fortnightly at the time to save £700,000 a year. "Yep, councils a law unto themselves. What exactly is the punishment for a council that under performs? When a council fails, they just raise taxes and cut services, obviously whilst having a fully funded menu and meeting to decide things. | |||
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"Why are people not taking their rubbish to the tip, or better still someone could come in and charge people £1 a bag to remove it. Loads of money and remove some of that union grip that blights the country." Where i live the bin men were on strike for months due to a dispute. There was no mess like you see in Birmingham because people utilised the council tip and like you say there was any amount of licenced waste removers advertising their services. Granted i don't live in a major city , but I think the people of Birmingham could do more to help themselves instead of living in a shit hole. | |||
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"Birmingham is a failed City, politically. A real tragedy for Britain's Second City.
What does that mean; "Failed politically"?"Unable to function or provide basic services. | |||
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"Why are people not taking their rubbish to the tip, or better still someone could come in and charge people £1 a bag to remove it. Loads of money and remove some of that union grip that blights the country. Can you imagine the reaction you'd get at the tip if you turned up with a van full of rubbish bags? It's bad enough if you try to take your own down there. Think big, hire the big refuse lorry a driver and 2 labourers . The council should not have a monopoly especially if they can't manage it on behalf of the people they have taken money from.
They collect enough money. It’s what they waste it on
Plymouth city council costed the city centre refurbishment at £11.7m, then illegally removed 96 trees in the middle of the night which made national headlines, the refurbishment now at £36.8m and not finished. £764,000 spent on a cast iron statue of rusty reg on Plymouth hoe.
Bin collections switched to fortnightly at the time to save £700,000 a year. "OK I give up. Who's "Rusty Reg"? | |||
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"Why are people not taking their rubbish to the tip, or better still someone could come in and charge people £1 a bag to remove it. Loads of money and remove some of that union grip that blights the country. Where i live the bin men were on strike for months due to a dispute. There was no mess like you see in Birmingham because people utilised the council tip and like you say there was any amount of licenced waste removers advertising their services. Granted i don't live in a major city , but I think the people of Birmingham could do more to help themselves instead of living in a shit hole. " As a Birmingham resident I would question why I should put myself out to take rubbish to the tip when I am already paying the Council to do exactly that. Will the Council pay me to do its job? If I go to Costa for a coffee I give them a fiver and they make my coffee and provide the seating etc. I don’t expect to pay, take my own coffee, make it myself, and provide my own seat. I’m not really clear why I should regard Council services that I am paying for in a different light. | |||
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"Why are people not taking their rubbish to the tip, or better still someone could come in and charge people £1 a bag to remove it. Loads of money and remove some of that union grip that blights the country. Where i live the bin men were on strike for months due to a dispute. There was no mess like you see in Birmingham because people utilised the council tip and like you say there was any amount of licenced waste removers advertising their services. Granted i don't live in a major city , but I think the people of Birmingham could do more to help themselves instead of living in a shit hole. As a Birmingham resident I would question why I should put myself out to take rubbish to the tip when I am already paying the Council to do exactly that. Will the Council pay me to do its job? If I go to Costa for a coffee I give them a fiver and they make my coffee and provide the seating etc. I don’t expect to pay, take my own coffee, make it myself, and provide my own seat. I’m not really clear why I should regard Council services that I am paying for in a different light. " Then don't moan about the mess! | |||
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"Why are people not taking their rubbish to the tip, or better still someone could come in and charge people £1 a bag to remove it. Loads of money and remove some of that union grip that blights the country. Where i live the bin men were on strike for months due to a dispute. There was no mess like you see in Birmingham because people utilised the council tip and like you say there was any amount of licenced waste removers advertising their services. Granted i don't live in a major city , but I think the people of Birmingham could do more to help themselves instead of living in a shit hole. As a Birmingham resident I would question why I should put myself out to take rubbish to the tip when I am already paying the Council to do exactly that. Will the Council pay me to do its job? If I go to Costa for a coffee I give them a fiver and they make my coffee and provide the seating etc. I don’t expect to pay, take my own coffee, make it myself, and provide my own seat. I’m not really clear why I should regard Council services that I am paying for in a different light. " Maybe the people of the northeast aren't used to living in shit and filth and care about where they live. The strike was a massive inconvenience to where I live and went on for months, but we got on with it the best we could, but it certainly never turned i to the shithole I've seen on the news . Must just be like home to certain people. | |||
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"Why are people not taking their rubbish to the tip, or better still someone could come in and charge people £1 a bag to remove it. Loads of money and remove some of that union grip that blights the country. Where i live the bin men were on strike for months due to a dispute. There was no mess like you see in Birmingham because people utilised the council tip and like you say there was any amount of licenced waste removers advertising their services. Granted i don't live in a major city , but I think the people of Birmingham could do more to help themselves instead of living in a shit hole. As a Birmingham resident I would question why I should put myself out to take rubbish to the tip when I am already paying the Council to do exactly that. Will the Council pay me to do its job? If I go to Costa for a coffee I give them a fiver and they make my coffee and provide the seating etc. I don’t expect to pay, take my own coffee, make it myself, and provide my own seat. I’m not really clear why I should regard Council services that I am paying for in a different light. Maybe the people of the northeast aren't used to living in shit and filth and care about where they live. The strike was a massive inconvenience to where I live and went on for months, but we got on with it the best we could, but it certainly never turned i to the shithole I've seen on the news . Must just be like home to certain people. " Plenty of Council owned land in Birmingham. If things get out of hand can always go and dump it there. They can clean up their own mess when they feel like it. | |||
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"Why are people not taking their rubbish to the tip, or better still someone could come in and charge people £1 a bag to remove it. Loads of money and remove some of that union grip that blights the country. Where i live the bin men were on strike for months due to a dispute. There was no mess like you see in Birmingham because people utilised the council tip and like you say there was any amount of licenced waste removers advertising their services. Granted i don't live in a major city , but I think the people of Birmingham could do more to help themselves instead of living in a shit hole. As a Birmingham resident I would question why I should put myself out to take rubbish to the tip when I am already paying the Council to do exactly that. Will the Council pay me to do its job? If I go to Costa for a coffee I give them a fiver and they make my coffee and provide the seating etc. I don’t expect to pay, take my own coffee, make it myself, and provide my own seat. I’m not really clear why I should regard Council services that I am paying for in a different light. Maybe the people of the northeast aren't used to living in shit and filth and care about where they live. The strike was a massive inconvenience to where I live and went on for months, but we got on with it the best we could, but it certainly never turned i to the shithole I've seen on the news . Must just be like home to certain people. Plenty of Council owned land in Birmingham. If things get out of hand can always go and dump it there. They can clean up their own mess when they feel like it." Dumping is illegal. | |||
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"Plenty of Council owned land in Birmingham. If things get out of hand can always go and dump it there. They can clean up their own mess when they feel like it." "Dumping is illegal." Only if you don't have a licence, and the council can easily grant themselves a licence. | |||
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"Plenty of Council owned land in Birmingham. If things get out of hand can always go and dump it there. They can clean up their own mess when they feel like it. Dumping is illegal. Only if you don't have a licence, and the council can easily grant themselves a licence." The poster, I think, is talking about dumping his rubbish. Cos he pays his taxes, it's "their" mess. | |||
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"Plenty of Council owned land in Birmingham." "If things get out of hand can always go and dump it there. They can clean up their own mess when they feel like it." "Dumping is illegal." "Only if you don't have a licence, and the council can easily grant themselves a licence." "The poster, I think, is talking about dumping his rubbish. Cos he pays his taxes, it's "their" mess." Could be. I thought he was talking about the council getting it out of the way. I'm sure he'll come along and explain. | |||
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"Why are people not taking their rubbish to the tip, or better still someone could come in and charge people £1 a bag to remove it. Loads of money and remove some of that union grip that blights the country. Where i live the bin men were on strike for months due to a dispute. There was no mess like you see in Birmingham because people utilised the council tip and like you say there was any amount of licenced waste removers advertising their services. Granted i don't live in a major city , but I think the people of Birmingham could do more to help themselves instead of living in a shit hole. As a Birmingham resident I would question why I should put myself out to take rubbish to the tip when I am already paying the Council to do exactly that. Will the Council pay me to do its job? If I go to Costa for a coffee I give them a fiver and they make my coffee and provide the seating etc. I don’t expect to pay, take my own coffee, make it myself, and provide my own seat. I’m not really clear why I should regard Council services that I am paying for in a different light. Maybe the people of the northeast aren't used to living in shit and filth and care about where they live. The strike was a massive inconvenience to where I live and went on for months, but we got on with it the best we could, but it certainly never turned i to the shithole I've seen on the news . Must just be like home to certain people. Plenty of Council owned land in Birmingham. If things get out of hand can always go and dump it there. They can clean up their own mess when they feel like it. Dumping is illegal." Thank you for pointing this out. I wasn’t aware. There is absolutely no rubbish lying around on the street in Birmingham at the moment. So no doubt my waste will stand out like a sore thumb amongst all the rest. Tbh if I'm caught it will probably be the first “crime” that West Midlands police have solved this year. | |||
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"Why are people not taking their rubbish to the tip, or better still someone could come in and charge people £1 a bag to remove it. Loads of money and remove some of that union grip that blights the country. Where i live the bin men were on strike for months due to a dispute. There was no mess like you see in Birmingham because people utilised the council tip and like you say there was any amount of licenced waste removers advertising their services. Granted i don't live in a major city , but I think the people of Birmingham could do more to help themselves instead of living in a shit hole. As a Birmingham resident I would question why I should put myself out to take rubbish to the tip when I am already paying the Council to do exactly that. Will the Council pay me to do its job? If I go to Costa for a coffee I give them a fiver and they make my coffee and provide the seating etc. I don’t expect to pay, take my own coffee, make it myself, and provide my own seat. I’m not really clear why I should regard Council services that I am paying for in a different light. Maybe the people of the northeast aren't used to living in shit and filth and care about where they live. The strike was a massive inconvenience to where I live and went on for months, but we got on with it the best we could, but it certainly never turned i to the shithole I've seen on the news . Must just be like home to certain people. Plenty of Council owned land in Birmingham. If things get out of hand can always go and dump it there. They can clean up their own mess when they feel like it. Dumping is illegal. Thank you for pointing this out. I wasn’t aware. There is absolutely no rubbish lying around on the street in Birmingham at the moment. So no doubt my waste will stand out like a sore thumb amongst all the rest. Tbh if I'm caught it will probably be the first “crime” that West Midlands police have solved this year. " | |||
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"Amazing how tolerant people are of this disgusting situation. Council and the Unions obviously have no decency or pride in their once great City." Are you saying bin men have no right to strike? Or the unions and council need to sort this out and quick? | |||
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"Amazing how tolerant people are of this disgusting situation. Council and the Unions obviously have no decency or pride in their once great City." If Birmingham council could drag itself into the modern era, they might avoid all of the problems caused by the unions. Outsource the waste collection and get them gone, then onto the next department rinse and repeat. It is the only way forward. | |||
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"Amazing how tolerant people are of this disgusting situation. Council and the Unions obviously have no decency or pride in their once great City. Are you saying bin men have no right to strike? Or the unions and council need to sort this out and quick? " Essential services should have limited right to strike yes, where that action impacts on others right to health and quality of life. | |||
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"Amazing how tolerant people are of this disgusting situation. Council and the Unions obviously have no decency or pride in their once great City. If Birmingham council could drag itself into the modern era, they might avoid all of the problems caused by the unions. Outsource the waste collection and get them gone, then onto the next department rinse and repeat. It is the only way forward. " Unfortunately Birmingham is a political and social mess, literally now. | |||
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"Amazing how tolerant people are of this disgusting situation. Council and the Unions obviously have no decency or pride in their once great City. If Birmingham council could drag itself into the modern era, they might avoid all of the problems caused by the unions. Outsource the waste collection and get them gone, then onto the next department rinse and repeat. It is the only way forward. Unfortunately Birmingham is a political and social mess, literally now." They need to start somewhere and this would be the perfect time. I would certainly be in talks with all the major waste disposal companies, with an ambition to outsource ASAP and no TUPE arrangements. | |||
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"Sickening that 7 million tonnes of useable food is thrown out annually in this country, while tussell trust reports a record 3 million using food banks." Sickening, and untrue There are 28m households in the UK. That means that each one would be throwing out a quarter of a tonne each year, or 5kg per week. Does that sound realistic? | |||
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"Sickening that 7 million tonnes of useable food is thrown out annually in this country, while tussell trust reports a record 3 million using food banks. Sickening, and untrue There are 28m households in the UK. That means that each one would be throwing out a quarter of a tonne each year, or 5kg per week. Does that sound realistic?" I assume it a lot of food waste comes from supermarkets and restaurants as well as households. | |||
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"Sickening that 7 million tonnes of useable food is thrown out annually in this country, while tussell trust reports a record 3 million using food banks. Sickening, and untrue There are 28m households in the UK. That means that each one would be throwing out a quarter of a tonne each year, or 5kg per week. Does that sound realistic? I assume it a lot of food waste comes from supermarkets and restaurants as well as households. " I guess genuine waste like egg shells, vegetable/fruit skins, meat bones are also considered food waste which would account for a big percentage of it all. | |||
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"Sickening that 7 million tonnes of useable food is thrown out annually in this country, while tussell trust reports a record 3 million using food banks. Sickening, and untrue There are 28m households in the UK. That means that each one would be throwing out a quarter of a tonne each year, or 5kg per week. Does that sound realistic? I assume it a lot of food waste comes from supermarkets and restaurants as well as households. " I wonder about definition of 'useable' too. Edible does not mean legally useable. | |||
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"Sickening that 7 million tonnes of useable food is thrown out annually in this country, while tussell trust reports a record 3 million using food banks. Sickening, and untrue There are 28m households in the UK. That means that each one would be throwing out a quarter of a tonne each year, or 5kg per week. Does that sound realistic? I assume it a lot of food waste comes from supermarkets and restaurants as well as households. I wonder about definition of 'useable' too. Edible does not mean legally useable." Just thinking about unused portions of food after school dinner was sent to (somewhere) for pig swill. Surely all this food that cannot be sold as past its sell by date can be sent likewise or like garden waste for composting. | |||
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"Sickening that 7 million tonnes of useable food is thrown out annually in this country, while tussell trust reports a record 3 million using food banks." "Sickening, and untrue There are 28m households in the UK. That means that each one would be throwing out a quarter of a tonne each year, or 5kg per week. Does that sound realistic?" "I assume it a lot of food waste comes from supermarkets and restaurants as well as households." The study authors also included losses during production. If a combine harvester drops one grain in a thousand, they're counting that as several tonnes of useable wheat lost. | |||
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"Sickening that 7 million tonnes of useable food is thrown out annually in this country, while tussell trust reports a record 3 million using food banks. Sickening, and untrue There are 28m households in the UK. That means that each one would be throwing out a quarter of a tonne each year, or 5kg per week. Does that sound realistic? I assume it a lot of food waste comes from supermarkets and restaurants as well as households. The study authors also included losses during production. If a combine harvester drops one grain in a thousand, they're counting that as several tonnes of useable wheat lost." For household waste it includes all parts of food so peelings, bones, leftovers, out of date food etc. There's a good argument for more composting but none of this is useable food for human consumption. | |||
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"Sickening that 7 million tonnes of useable food is thrown out annually in this country, while tussell trust reports a record 3 million using food banks. Sickening, and untrue There are 28m households in the UK. That means that each one would be throwing out a quarter of a tonne each year, or 5kg per week. Does that sound realistic? I assume it a lot of food waste comes from supermarkets and restaurants as well as households. I wonder about definition of 'useable' too. Edible does not mean legally useable. Just thinking about unused portions of food after school dinner was sent to (somewhere) for pig swill. Surely all this food that cannot be sold as past its sell by date can be sent likewise or like garden waste for composting." The guardian reported on 22/2/2022 that Supermarkets waste 200,000 tonnes of food that could go to needy. Separately the felix project research says another £1bn of food is wasted inside the farm gate. Not found any over arching research on the total scale of the matter but clearly a lot of food is wasted. | |||
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