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By *abio OP   Man
5 weeks ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

Mark Carney in effect became the de facto Canadian prime minister yesterday after he won the liberal party leadership contest

If you don’t know who mark carney is.. he use to be the governor of the Bank of England (1st nominated under George Osborne.. was supposed to do a 5 year term, as to stay on for 5 more to help with the Brexit transition)

He was bank of Canada governor and got them through the banking crisis very very well ( obviously why he was asked in 1st place)

Anyway.. other than deal with trump and his tariff war… his first bit of business is likely to call a general election (has to do it by end of October anyway) .. reason why Trudeau resigned was that his party were going to get absolutely destroyed by the conservatives

With carney at the helm.. in polling the liberals now have a fighting chance, because the conservatives are lead by a person who kinda perceived as “Trump lite” and trump being so unpopular, the Canadian people are fully behind the way Justin Trudeau has dealt with him so far!

If you want a sense for what carney is like, his winning speech yesterday was really good.. also on YouTube he did a 20 minute ish interview with Jon Stewart on the daily show a few weeks ago!

Trump and carney as so not going to get along… I’ll take the economist over the business person in a tariffs war

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By *uffleskloofMan
5 weeks ago

Walsall

Amazing.

Another “impartial civil servant” who turns out to be a liberal leftist. Who knew?

Goldman Sachs. Big on Net Zero and COVID lockdowns. Major league Brexit Project Fear participant.

Another solid Globalist Blob Appointee.

I guess if the Canadians are desperate for “more Trudeau” he will be a good choice.

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan
5 weeks ago

nearby

Two PhDs Carney was pretty good at BoE with forward guidance. Much better than wiffle waffle Bailey.

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By *abio OP   Man
5 weeks ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Amazing.

Another “impartial civil servant” who turns out to be a liberal leftist. Who knew?

Goldman Sachs. Big on Net Zero and COVID lockdowns. Major league Brexit Project Fear participant.

Another solid Globalist Blob Appointee.

I guess if the Canadians are desperate for “more Trudeau” he will be a good choice.

"

Straight to the “leftist” line even though he was courted and appointed by conservatives and ask to stay on by the conservatives… so he cannot have done that bad a job! Or was able to put his own feelings aside for the good of the country!

You know.. the whole “country before party” thing… novel concept!!!

I thought I’d start the topic because I know there are a lot of people within labour and the Lib Dem’s here who see him as the “party leader who got away with”

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By *ik MMan
5 weeks ago

Lancashire

My Canadian friends have described replacing Trudeau with Carney is akin to shitting yourself and changing your shirt.

I’ll take their view over someone who has been constantly wrong in virtually every prediction they have made in the last 5 years.

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By *uffleskloofMan
5 weeks ago

Walsall


"Amazing.

Another “impartial civil servant” who turns out to be a liberal leftist. Who knew?

Goldman Sachs. Big on Net Zero and COVID lockdowns. Major league Brexit Project Fear participant.

Another solid Globalist Blob Appointee.

I guess if the Canadians are desperate for “more Trudeau” he will be a good choice.

Straight to the “leftist” line even though he was courted and appointed by conservatives and ask to stay on by the conservatives… so he cannot have done that bad a job! Or was able to put his own feelings aside for the good of the country!

You know.. the whole “country before party” thing… novel concept!!!

I thought I’d start the topic because I know there are a lot of people within labour and the Lib Dem’s here who see him as the “party leader who got away with” "

It will be interesting to see what happens.

Of course he is very different to Trump. Carney is effectively a career bureaucrat who just toes the globalist line. I’m sure in that respect being successful at Goldman Sachs is no different from being successful at the Bank of England or the UN. Just follow the “party line”, endorse the group think and don’t do anything too radical.

Query whether it is better for Canadians in that regard to have someone in place who can speak Trump’s language and maintain an amicable relationship.

I’m no expert on Canadian domestic politics. I get the impression that Trudeau has caused a lot of internal division, loads of uncontrolled immigration and poor economic performance, huge cost of living crisis etc.

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By *wosmilersCouple
5 weeks ago

Heathrowish

There is a presumption when pitting Carney against Trump that Carney will be elected as PM in the inevitable General Election.

Although only one poll matters, most pollsters think otherwise.

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By *eoBloomsMan
5 weeks ago

Springfield


"Amazing.

Another “impartial civil servant” who turns out to be a liberal leftist. Who knew?

Goldman Sachs. Big on Net Zero and COVID lockdowns. Major league Brexit Project Fear participant.

Another solid Globalist Blob Appointee.

I guess if the Canadians are desperate for “more Trudeau” he will be a good choice.

"

Absolute disaster at Bank of England.

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By *agan_PairCouple
5 weeks ago

portchester

As long as he continues the current trend of Canada absolutely humiliating trump on his trade war I’m all for the change !

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By *rDiscretionXXXMan
5 weeks ago

Gilfach


"Absolute disaster at Bank of England."

In what way?

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By *abio OP   Man
5 weeks ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"My Canadian friends have described replacing Trudeau with Carney is akin to shitting yourself and changing your shirt.

I’ll take their view over someone who has been constantly wrong in virtually every prediction they have made in the last 5 years. "

I’ve not made a prediction….. I’ve just been seeing the polls both CBC and CTV have done in the past couple of weeks

I originally started seeing a lot of CBC stuff just to see what Canadians really thought of the goading trump had been doing in their direction … but it’s actually just been a fascinating watch

But thanks for stalking me… I think

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By *eoBloomsMan
5 weeks ago

Springfield


"Absolute disaster at Bank of England.

In what way?"

Was far too cautious then unwisely got involved with the politics on Brexit. His time was one of low growth and falling productivity (not all on him of course).

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
5 weeks ago

golden fields


"Amazing.

Another “impartial civil servant” who turns out to be a liberal leftist. Who knew?

Goldman Sachs. Big on Net Zero and COVID lockdowns. Major league Brexit Project Fear participant.

Another solid Globalist Blob Appointee.

I guess if the Canadians are desperate for “more Trudeau” he will be a good choice.

"

Always the same nonsense whenever I look back here.

Why are only "liberal leftists" able to understand Brexit, climate change or covid?

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By *orthernJayMan
5 weeks ago

Elsewhere

Canadians are desperate for change regardless of who becomes their new PM. Spend anytime in Toronto (for example) and you’ll see the realities of current political ideology.

Gross immigration leading to cultural and racial tensions, spend five minutes at Pearson International airport and marvel at how many Indian/Pakistani/Bangladeshi/Thai/Indonesian are queuing at passport control; then see how many nail bars, barber and kebab shops et al. exist within a four block radius of downtown.

Canada is unbelievably expensive, speak to anybody sat at a bar and that’s the first thing they’ll raise; ask about Trudeau and they’ll tell you he’s a nice guy out of his depth!

Homelessness at epidemic proportions, as is drug abuse, both are “tolerated” by local authorities acting upon government advice; fair play you might say, better to rehabilitate that incarcerate, but wait until you’re verbally abused by those so off their face they’re fighting their own shadow in an underpass simply because they’ve nowhere else to go.

All of the above from personal experience, I’ve zero skin in the game, visit regularly for work. I’d suggest Trump and his bullshit rhetoric is the last thing on the average Canadians mind when trying to pay their bills and live in peace.

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By *otMe66Man
5 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"Canadians are desperate for change regardless of who becomes their new PM. Spend anytime in Toronto (for example) and you’ll see the realities of current political ideology.

Gross immigration leading to cultural and racial tensions, spend five minutes at Pearson International airport and marvel at how many Indian/Pakistani/Bangladeshi/Thai/Indonesian are queuing at passport control; then see how many nail bars, barber and kebab shops et al. exist within a four block radius of downtown.

Canada is unbelievably expensive, speak to anybody sat at a bar and that’s the first thing they’ll raise; ask about Trudeau and they’ll tell you he’s a nice guy out of his depth!

Homelessness at epidemic proportions, as is drug abuse, both are “tolerated” by local authorities acting upon government advice; fair play you might say, better to rehabilitate that incarcerate, but wait until you’re verbally abused by those so off their face they’re fighting their own shadow in an underpass simply because they’ve nowhere else to go.

All of the above from personal experience, I’ve zero skin in the game, visit regularly for work. I’d suggest Trump and his bullshit rhetoric is the last thing on the average Canadians mind when trying to pay their bills and live in peace."

It sounds like Canada’s progressive liberal policies have led to consequences that are replicated wherever progressives have direct influence. It should be a wake up call but sadly the ideology is far more important than the effect it has on society.

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By *ada123Couple
5 weeks ago

glasgow


"Canadians are desperate for change regardless of who becomes their new PM. Spend anytime in Toronto (for example) and you’ll see the realities of current political ideology.

Gross immigration leading to cultural and racial tensions, spend five minutes at Pearson International airport and marvel at how many Indian/Pakistani/Bangladeshi/Thai/Indonesian are queuing at passport control; then see how many nail bars, barber and kebab shops et al. exist within a four block radius of downtown.

Canada is unbelievably expensive, speak to anybody sat at a bar and that’s the first thing they’ll raise; ask about Trudeau and they’ll tell you he’s a nice guy out of his depth!

Homelessness at epidemic proportions, as is drug abuse, both are “tolerated” by local authorities acting upon government advice; fair play you might say, better to rehabilitate that incarcerate, but wait until you’re verbally abused by those so off their face they’re fighting their own shadow in an underpass simply because they’ve nowhere else to go.

All of the above from personal experience, I’ve zero skin in the game, visit regularly for work. I’d suggest Trump and his bullshit rhetoric is the last thing on the average Canadians mind when trying to pay their bills and live in peace."

"Gross immigration". The population density of the UK is 740 per square mile. That of Canada is 11 per square mile. Perhaps they need so immigration?

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By *otMe66Man
5 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"Canadians are desperate for change regardless of who becomes their new PM. Spend anytime in Toronto (for example) and you’ll see the realities of current political ideology.

Gross immigration leading to cultural and racial tensions, spend five minutes at Pearson International airport and marvel at how many Indian/Pakistani/Bangladeshi/Thai/Indonesian are queuing at passport control; then see how many nail bars, barber and kebab shops et al. exist within a four block radius of downtown.

Canada is unbelievably expensive, speak to anybody sat at a bar and that’s the first thing they’ll raise; ask about Trudeau and they’ll tell you he’s a nice guy out of his depth!

Homelessness at epidemic proportions, as is drug abuse, both are “tolerated” by local authorities acting upon government advice; fair play you might say, better to rehabilitate that incarcerate, but wait until you’re verbally abused by those so off their face they’re fighting their own shadow in an underpass simply because they’ve nowhere else to go.

All of the above from personal experience, I’ve zero skin in the game, visit regularly for work. I’d suggest Trump and his bullshit rhetoric is the last thing on the average Canadians mind when trying to pay their bills and live in peace.

"Gross immigration". The population density of the UK is 740 per square mile. That of Canada is 11 per square mile. Perhaps they need so immigration?"

There is a huge difference between a countries total land mass and urban area land mass divided by population...

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By *idnight RamblerMan
5 weeks ago

Pershore

He looks a stable safe pair of hands which is what the world needs right now. There's enough macho hard men strutting the world stage and wrecking the established order.

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By *oxy jWoman
5 weeks ago

somerset

not into American /Canadian politics but i have a question ...

what happens if America stops suberising Canada in every way money / military / imports exports do Canada go under as we are all being told Canada cant survive on its own ??

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By *ermbiMan
5 weeks ago

Ballyshannon


"not into American /Canadian politics but i have a question ...

what happens if America stops suberising Canada in every way money / military / imports exports do Canada go under as we are all being told Canada cant survive on its own ??"

Bit of a nieve comment. Do some research on Canadian economy

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By *abio OP   Man
5 weeks ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"not into American /Canadian politics but i have a question ...

what happens if America stops suberising Canada in every way money / military / imports exports do Canada go under as we are all being told Canada cant survive on its own ??"

See…. This is the difference between in effect what trump tells you, and keeps repeating blindly… and what the truth is

So for example… trade balance! Yes Canada is in surplus, however that is because Canada has the stuff America actually needs to survive day to day… for example America can drill for oil in the gulf as much as they like, but it’s the wrong sort of oil to produce petrol so they import Canadian light oil for the refineries

So if you take out the stuff the us essentially needs… oil, timber… the trade balance is actually the other way!!!!!

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS
4 weeks ago

Ilkley


"not into American /Canadian politics but i have a question ...

what happens if America stops suberising Canada in every way money / military / imports exports do Canada go under as we are all being told Canada cant survive on its own ??

See…. This is the difference between in effect what trump tells you, and keeps repeating blindly… and what the truth is

So for example… trade balance! Yes Canada is in surplus, however that is because Canada has the stuff America actually needs to survive day to day… for example America can drill for oil in the gulf as much as they like, but it’s the wrong sort of oil to produce petrol so they import Canadian light oil for the refineries

So if you take out the stuff the us essentially needs… oil, timber… the trade balance is actually the other way!!!!! "

Yeah so basically the trump line of "USA is subsidising Canada" is just bollocks. Canada has stuff that USA needs to buy, the USA would be in deep shit if it didn't buy this stuff. The Canadians are only charging fair market price. The USA in fact gives jack shit help to Canada. Trump actually wants to grab Canada so that he can take everything for free. There's only one freeloader in the equation, and that's the orange guy...

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By *d4ugirlsMan
4 weeks ago

Green Cove Springs


"My Canadian friends have described replacing Trudeau with Carney is akin to shitting yourself and changing your shirt.

I’ll take their view over someone who has been constantly wrong in virtually every prediction they have made in the last 5 years. "

Great analogy, my Canadian friends agree as well, (all 5 of them) to your friends. Like the last part as well.

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