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"Does anyone else also look at this in the same distorted way that I do? This stopped a number of flights in the Florida area, thus reducing greenhouse emissions for a few hours......but at a cost of littering the atmosphere with greenhouse emissions from the production of the rocket, the expenditure or the fuel and the detritus that followed. Doesn't that sum up a lot of green industry?" Yes, but he did put on a spectacularly pretty fireworks display. | |||
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"A quick google tells me that a Space X flight throws out about 385 tons of CO2. Given that a standard London New York flights uses about 500kg then that sounds like a lot of CO2! Better stop all those space flights if we want to save the planet!! However another google then tells me that making a tonne of steel throws out about 1.4 tonnes of CO2 - and we use a LOT of steel. A rocket is not good for the environment but the things it puts into space - all the climate monitoring satellites etc clearly are good. Overall I would rather have space flight so we can work out what’s happening to the world rather than building more hotels out of steel so the people who don’t want the space flights can sleep comfortably whilst they organise conferences against them. " Working out what’s happening to the world is only useful if the human race believes the information. | |||
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"I see Trump has turned the White House into a Tesla dealership now. He's also said there will be an investigation into the illegal boycott of Tesla cars. WTF.
"Tesla is a great American success story, as is Musk generally. Not particularly unusual for a politician to be photographed alongside successful home grown business people to enhance their credibility. I’ve lost count of the times I’ve seen Rayner and Miliband photographed in hard hats and high viz. | |||
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"I see Trump has turned the White House into a Tesla dealership now. He's also said there will be an investigation into the illegal boycott of Tesla cars. WTF.
Tesla is a great American success story, as is Musk generally.
Not particularly unusual for a politician to be photographed alongside successful home grown business people to enhance their credibility.
I’ve lost count of the times I’ve seen Rayner and Miliband photographed in hard hats and high viz."It cannot be denied that there is a major movement around the world to boycott Tesla vehicles because of what the South African Musk is doing to the American government. There is however a big difference between our PM being pictured in a hard hat on various building sites to show support for the construction industry, and the President of the USA looking at Tesla cars and trucks outside the Whitehouse. Sadly for dear Elon, Trump's involvement will almost certainly hurt the sales of the Chinese made Teslas vehicles even further. I also wonder what Chrysler, Ford, Ram, Dodge, Cadillac and Lincoln think of the stunt. | |||
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"I see Trump has turned the White House into a Tesla dealership now. He's also said there will be an investigation into the illegal boycott of Tesla cars. WTF.
Tesla is a great American success story, as is Musk generally.
Not particularly unusual for a politician to be photographed alongside successful home grown business people to enhance their credibility.
I’ve lost count of the times I’ve seen Rayner and Miliband photographed in hard hats and high viz.
It cannot be denied that there is a major movement around the world to boycott Tesla vehicles because of what the South African Musk is doing to the American government.
There is however a big difference between our PM being pictured in a hard hat on various building sites to show support for the construction industry, and the President of the USA looking at Tesla cars and trucks outside the Whitehouse.
Sadly for dear Elon, Trump's involvement will almost certainly hurt the sales of the Chinese made Teslas vehicles even further. I also wonder what Chrysler, Ford, Ram, Dodge, Cadillac and Lincoln think of the stunt. "I was going to put something like this…. It’s not only Tesla sales in the us that has gone through the floor because of elons political interference in America… the same is happening in Canada… in Europe in some countries it’s as much as 75% lower I did think it was ironic Trump and the Tesla stunt bearing in mind his tariffs are going to absolutely crush the big 3 automakers His shareholders and the board must be going ape! | |||
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"I see Trump has turned the White House into a Tesla dealership now. He's also said there will be an investigation into the illegal boycott of Tesla cars. WTF.
Tesla is a great American success story, as is Musk generally.
Not particularly unusual for a politician to be photographed alongside successful home grown business people to enhance their credibility.
I’ve lost count of the times I’ve seen Rayner and Miliband photographed in hard hats and high viz.
It cannot be denied that there is a major movement around the world to boycott Tesla vehicles because of what the South African Musk is doing to the American government.
There is however a big difference between our PM being pictured in a hard hat on various building sites to show support for the construction industry, and the President of the USA looking at Tesla cars and trucks outside the Whitehouse.
Sadly for dear Elon, Trump's involvement will almost certainly hurt the sales of the Chinese made Teslas vehicles even further. I also wonder what Chrysler, Ford, Ram, Dodge, Cadillac and Lincoln think of the stunt. "Which non-Chinese car companies are doing well? Are European car companies faring any better? I’m sure many early Tesla buyers are undergoing some sort of internal struggle. They only bought a Tesla for ideological reasons and to appear “cool”, and now it turns out their hero has different political opinions than they do and they can’t cope with it. This against a background of increased competition from China and elsewhere, and an uncertain regulatory background which is slowly realising what most of us already knew, that EVs aren’t the answer, there just isn’t that much consumer interest in them generally, and the net zero push is economic suicide for Europe. Personally I’ve always bought a car because I liked the model, not because of ideology. I don’t usually research the political opinions of the owners before buying. I wouldn’t buy an EV because they are crap. | |||
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"Uk bucking the trend with UK sales of Tesla up 20% in Feb. Is that because of Musk's challenge on Labour, or maybe we are less concerned about what Musk says compared to others." I think its more about other factors than what the owner thinks of a political party, reliability etc .. Not enough infrastructure to tempt us yet.. The trend is on the down, how does the increase compare in relation to Germany, France etc? He might need to refocus on his core business at the moment instead of upsetting the other secretaries of state..  | |||
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"Uk bucking the trend with UK sales of Tesla up 20% in Feb. Is that because of Musk's challenge on Labour, or maybe we are less concerned about what Musk says compared to others. I think its more about other factors than what the owner thinks of a political party, reliability etc .. Not enough infrastructure to tempt us yet.. The trend is on the down, how does the increase compare in relation to Germany, France etc? He might need to refocus on his core business at the moment instead of upsetting the other secretaries of state.. "Tesla sales are down in Germany and the EU for Feb. They are also declining heavily in China. I believe there are several contributing factors impacting the decline in Tesla sales other than the Musk - Trump effect, but it would be blinkered to not acknowledge Musk is sabotaging his own sales channels. | |||
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"Uk bucking the trend with UK sales of Tesla up 20% in Feb. Is that because of Musk's challenge on Labour, or maybe we are less concerned about what Musk says compared to others. I think its more about other factors than what the owner thinks of a political party, reliability etc .. Not enough infrastructure to tempt us yet.. The trend is on the down, how does the increase compare in relation to Germany, France etc? He might need to refocus on his core business at the moment instead of upsetting the other secretaries of state..
Tesla sales are down in Germany and the EU for Feb. They are also declining heavily in China.
I believe there are several contributing factors impacting the decline in Tesla sales other than the Musk - Trump effect, but it would be blinkered to not acknowledge Musk is sabotaging his own sales channels. "Maybe he wants to sell that part of his empire and concentrate more on AI.. | |||
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"Uk bucking the trend with UK sales of Tesla up 20% in Feb. Is that because of Musk's challenge on Labour, or maybe we are less concerned about what Musk says compared to others. I think its more about other factors than what the owner thinks of a political party, reliability etc .. Not enough infrastructure to tempt us yet.. The trend is on the down, how does the increase compare in relation to Germany, France etc? He might need to refocus on his core business at the moment instead of upsetting the other secretaries of state..
Tesla sales are down in Germany and the EU for Feb. They are also declining heavily in China.
I believe there are several contributing factors impacting the decline in Tesla sales other than the Musk - Trump effect, but it would be blinkered to not acknowledge Musk is sabotaging his own sales channels.
Maybe he wants to sell that part of his empire and concentrate more on AI.."Unlikely, the development of battery technology and manufacturing is driven through Tesla, and that is woven into SpaceX for future developments towards longer term missions. | |||
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"Uk bucking the trend with UK sales of Tesla up 20% in Feb. Is that because of Musk's challenge on Labour, or maybe we are less concerned about what Musk says compared to others. I think its more about other factors than what the owner thinks of a political party, reliability etc .. Not enough infrastructure to tempt us yet.. The trend is on the down, how does the increase compare in relation to Germany, France etc? He might need to refocus on his core business at the moment instead of upsetting the other secretaries of state..
Tesla sales are down in Germany and the EU for Feb. They are also declining heavily in China.
I believe there are several contributing factors impacting the decline in Tesla sales other than the Musk - Trump effect, but it would be blinkered to not acknowledge Musk is sabotaging his own sales channels.
Maybe he wants to sell that part of his empire and concentrate more on AI..
Unlikely, the development of battery technology and manufacturing is driven through Tesla, and that is woven into SpaceX for future developments towards longer term missions. " | |||
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"Uk bucking the trend with UK sales of Tesla up 20% in Feb. Is that because of Musk's challenge on Labour, or maybe we are less concerned about what Musk says compared to others. I think its more about other factors than what the owner thinks of a political party, reliability etc .. Not enough infrastructure to tempt us yet.. The trend is on the down, how does the increase compare in relation to Germany, France etc? He might need to refocus on his core business at the moment instead of upsetting the other secretaries of state..
Tesla sales are down in Germany and the EU for Feb. They are also declining heavily in China.
I believe there are several contributing factors impacting the decline in Tesla sales other than the Musk - Trump effect, but it would be blinkered to not acknowledge Musk is sabotaging his own sales channels.
Maybe he wants to sell that part of his empire and concentrate more on AI..
Unlikely, the development of battery technology and manufacturing is driven through Tesla, and that is woven into SpaceX for future developments towards longer term missions.
"Would you buy shares in Tesla or would being a shareholder in the Musk group be a step you would not be willing to take? | |||
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"Uk bucking the trend with UK sales of Tesla up 20% in Feb. Is that because of Musk's challenge on Labour, or maybe we are less concerned about what Musk says compared to others. I think its more about other factors than what the owner thinks of a political party, reliability etc .. Not enough infrastructure to tempt us yet.. The trend is on the down, how does the increase compare in relation to Germany, France etc? He might need to refocus on his core business at the moment instead of upsetting the other secretaries of state..
Tesla sales are down in Germany and the EU for Feb. They are also declining heavily in China.
I believe there are several contributing factors impacting the decline in Tesla sales other than the Musk - Trump effect, but it would be blinkered to not acknowledge Musk is sabotaging his own sales channels.
Maybe he wants to sell that part of his empire and concentrate more on AI..
Unlikely, the development of battery technology and manufacturing is driven through Tesla, and that is woven into SpaceX for future developments towards longer term missions.
Would you buy shares in Tesla or would being a shareholder in the Musk group be a step you would not be willing to take? "When we did have a modest portfolio we left it to the company who looked after it, tbh it wouldn't bother me personally as the company owner being a bit bat shit comes secondary to what the returns are.. Otherwise one might invest it in the church of England.. Or the Vatican..   | |||
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"I see Trump has turned the White House into a Tesla dealership now. He's also said there will be an investigation into the illegal boycott of Tesla cars. WTF.
Tesla is a great American success story, as is Musk generally.
Not particularly unusual for a politician to be photographed alongside successful home grown business people to enhance their credibility.
I’ve lost count of the times I’ve seen Rayner and Miliband photographed in hard hats and high viz.
It cannot be denied that there is a major movement around the world to boycott Tesla vehicles because of what the South African Musk is doing to the American government.
There is however a big difference between our PM being pictured in a hard hat on various building sites to show support for the construction industry, and the President of the USA looking at Tesla cars and trucks outside the Whitehouse.
Sadly for dear Elon, Trump's involvement will almost certainly hurt the sales of the Chinese made Teslas vehicles even further. I also wonder what Chrysler, Ford, Ram, Dodge, Cadillac and Lincoln think of the stunt.
Which non-Chinese car companies are doing well? Are European car companies faring any better?
I’m sure many early Tesla buyers are undergoing some sort of internal struggle. They only bought a Tesla for ideological reasons and to appear “cool”, and now it turns out their hero has different political opinions than they do and they can’t cope with it.
This against a background of increased competition from China and elsewhere, and an uncertain regulatory background which is slowly realising what most of us already knew, that EVs aren’t the answer, there just isn’t that much consumer interest in them generally, and the net zero push is economic suicide for Europe.
Personally I’ve always bought a car because I liked the model, not because of ideology. I don’t usually research the political opinions of the owners before buying. I wouldn’t buy an EV because they are crap.
"Which non Chinese EV manufacturers are doing well… Well… Kia and Hyundai are European… Skoda are, fords entire European line up will be all EV by the end of 26, Renault do a couple of little beauties, VW are getting there… BYD are never going to get a foothold in the US because their authorities will absolutely tariff them out of price range | |||
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"Uk bucking the trend with UK sales of Tesla up 20% in Feb. Is that because of Musk's challenge on Labour, or maybe we are less concerned about what Musk says compared to others. I think its more about other factors than what the owner thinks of a political party, reliability etc .. Not enough infrastructure to tempt us yet.. The trend is on the down, how does the increase compare in relation to Germany, France etc? He might need to refocus on his core business at the moment instead of upsetting the other secretaries of state..
Tesla sales are down in Germany and the EU for Feb. They are also declining heavily in China.
I believe there are several contributing factors impacting the decline in Tesla sales other than the Musk - Trump effect, but it would be blinkered to not acknowledge Musk is sabotaging his own sales channels.
Maybe he wants to sell that part of his empire and concentrate more on AI..
Unlikely, the development of battery technology and manufacturing is driven through Tesla, and that is woven into SpaceX for future developments towards longer term missions.
Would you buy shares in Tesla or would being a shareholder in the Musk group be a step you would not be willing to take?
When we did have a modest portfolio we left it to the company who looked after it, tbh it wouldn't bother me personally as the company owner being a bit bat shit comes secondary to what the returns are..
Otherwise one might invest it in the church of England..
Or the Vatican.. "Tesla shares are down 49% from December, refreshed model Y and a rumour of a low price model coming soon. Could those pesky leftists prevent a big pay day....  | |||
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"Uk bucking the trend with UK sales of Tesla up 20% in Feb. Is that because of Musk's challenge on Labour, or maybe we are less concerned about what Musk says compared to others. I think its more about other factors than what the owner thinks of a political party, reliability etc .. Not enough infrastructure to tempt us yet.. The trend is on the down, how does the increase compare in relation to Germany, France etc? He might need to refocus on his core business at the moment instead of upsetting the other secretaries of state..
Tesla sales are down in Germany and the EU for Feb. They are also declining heavily in China.
I believe there are several contributing factors impacting the decline in Tesla sales other than the Musk - Trump effect, but it would be blinkered to not acknowledge Musk is sabotaging his own sales channels.
Maybe he wants to sell that part of his empire and concentrate more on AI..
Unlikely, the development of battery technology and manufacturing is driven through Tesla, and that is woven into SpaceX for future developments towards longer term missions.
Would you buy shares in Tesla or would being a shareholder in the Musk group be a step you would not be willing to take?
When we did have a modest portfolio we left it to the company who looked after it, tbh it wouldn't bother me personally as the company owner being a bit bat shit comes secondary to what the returns are..
Otherwise one might invest it in the church of England..
Or the Vatican..
Tesla shares are down 49% from December, refreshed model Y and a rumour of a low price model coming soon. Could those pesky leftists prevent a big pay day.... "Well Trump has now made it a hate crime to write 'Nazi' in the dust on a Tesla. | |||
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"Well Trump has now made it a hate crime to write 'Nazi' in the dust on a Tesla." That is a hate crime. How do you feel it compares to someone writing "sl@ve" on the back of a car owned by a black man? | |||
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"Uk bucking the trend with UK sales of Tesla up 20% in Feb. Is that because of Musk's challenge on Labour, or maybe we are less concerned about what Musk says compared to others. I think its more about other factors than what the owner thinks of a political party, reliability etc .. Not enough infrastructure to tempt us yet.. The trend is on the down, how does the increase compare in relation to Germany, France etc? He might need to refocus on his core business at the moment instead of upsetting the other secretaries of state..
Tesla sales are down in Germany and the EU for Feb. They are also declining heavily in China.
I believe there are several contributing factors impacting the decline in Tesla sales other than the Musk - Trump effect, but it would be blinkered to not acknowledge Musk is sabotaging his own sales channels.
Maybe he wants to sell that part of his empire and concentrate more on AI..
Unlikely, the development of battery technology and manufacturing is driven through Tesla, and that is woven into SpaceX for future developments towards longer term missions.
Would you buy shares in Tesla or would being a shareholder in the Musk group be a step you would not be willing to take?
When we did have a modest portfolio we left it to the company who looked after it, tbh it wouldn't bother me personally as the company owner being a bit bat shit comes secondary to what the returns are..
Otherwise one might invest it in the church of England..
Or the Vatican..
Tesla shares are down 49% from December, refreshed model Y and a rumour of a low price model coming soon. Could those pesky leftists prevent a big pay day....
Well Trump has now made it a hate crime to write 'Nazi' in the dust on a Tesla. "Are you advising to hold off buying shares at the minute because the populist left haven't finished handing out their retribution? | |||
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"Well Trump has now made it a hate crime to write 'Nazi' in the dust on a Tesla. That is a hate crime. How do you feel it compares to someone writing "sl@ve" on the back of a car owned by a black man?" Shouldn't there be a .co.uk after that. | |||
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"Uk bucking the trend with UK sales of Tesla up 20% in Feb. Is that because of Musk's challenge on Labour, or maybe we are less concerned about what Musk says compared to others. I think its more about other factors than what the owner thinks of a political party, reliability etc .. Not enough infrastructure to tempt us yet.. The trend is on the down, how does the increase compare in relation to Germany, France etc? He might need to refocus on his core business at the moment instead of upsetting the other secretaries of state..
Tesla sales are down in Germany and the EU for Feb. They are also declining heavily in China.
I believe there are several contributing factors impacting the decline in Tesla sales other than the Musk - Trump effect, but it would be blinkered to not acknowledge Musk is sabotaging his own sales channels.
Maybe he wants to sell that part of his empire and concentrate more on AI..
Unlikely, the development of battery technology and manufacturing is driven through Tesla, and that is woven into SpaceX for future developments towards longer term missions.
Would you buy shares in Tesla or would being a shareholder in the Musk group be a step you would not be willing to take?
When we did have a modest portfolio we left it to the company who looked after it, tbh it wouldn't bother me personally as the company owner being a bit bat shit comes secondary to what the returns are..
Otherwise one might invest it in the church of England..
Or the Vatican..
Tesla shares are down 49% from December, refreshed model Y and a rumour of a low price model coming soon. Could those pesky leftists prevent a big pay day.... "Nerd post coming… No… I would argue that as good as the model 3, Y, S and X are…. The focus of Tesla was on North America where they like “a bigger car”… he has spent so long getting comfortable there.. they are late to the party for European and Asian markets that like smaller cars… they don’t do the B/C class “crossover SUV” So whatever Tesla has coming has to either compete with the Kia ev3’s or Skoda elroq in the crossover SUV sector….or do they go super mini and compete with the Ev1, or Hyundai inster or the Renault 5 | |||
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"Uk bucking the trend with UK sales of Tesla up 20% in Feb. Is that because of Musk's challenge on Labour, or maybe we are less concerned about what Musk says compared to others. I think its more about other factors than what the owner thinks of a political party, reliability etc .. Not enough infrastructure to tempt us yet.. The trend is on the down, how does the increase compare in relation to Germany, France etc? He might need to refocus on his core business at the moment instead of upsetting the other secretaries of state..
Tesla sales are down in Germany and the EU for Feb. They are also declining heavily in China.
I believe there are several contributing factors impacting the decline in Tesla sales other than the Musk - Trump effect, but it would be blinkered to not acknowledge Musk is sabotaging his own sales channels.
Maybe he wants to sell that part of his empire and concentrate more on AI..
Unlikely, the development of battery technology and manufacturing is driven through Tesla, and that is woven into SpaceX for future developments towards longer term missions.
Would you buy shares in Tesla or would being a shareholder in the Musk group be a step you would not be willing to take?
When we did have a modest portfolio we left it to the company who looked after it, tbh it wouldn't bother me personally as the company owner being a bit bat shit comes secondary to what the returns are..
Otherwise one might invest it in the church of England..
Or the Vatican..
Tesla shares are down 49% from December, refreshed model Y and a rumour of a low price model coming soon. Could those pesky leftists prevent a big pay day....
Nerd post coming…
No… I would argue that as good as the model 3, Y, S and X are…. The focus of Tesla was on North America where they like “a bigger car”… he has spent so long getting comfortable there.. they are late to the party for European and Asian markets that like smaller cars… they don’t do the B/C class “crossover SUV”
So whatever Tesla has coming has to either compete with the Kia ev3’s or Skoda elroq in the crossover SUV sector….or do they go super mini and compete with the Ev1, or Hyundai inster or the Renault 5
"What I have heard on the rumour mill is cheap SUV sized. That doesn't give a lot of info, but reading your list I could see the gap that needs plugging. I can see opportunity in TSLA right now, but Musk has made it a little more risky for sure. | |||
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"Meanwhile Tesla is back in the US courts trying to get permission to pay Musk a $56 billion bonus that Tesla declared years ago, but the courts have been holding up because they think it is “too much”, despite shareholders agreeing to it." It is a crazy turn of events! 1 shareholder owning just 9 shares brought the lawsuit that stopped Musk having the largest pay package in corp history... | |||
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"Another successful destruction of Elon's spacecraft today. Like many Americans, I'm so upset that Elon wasn't on it. "Such a disappointing and mean reason to start a thread. You have a spaceman and a space woman stuck up in space. An administration that is thankfully out of office now that refused to help and refused an offer for help from Space X. But yet this thread is about rejoicing that one of the rockets that could have gone up to save these two brave astronauts. Then in this thread we start talking about greenhouse and climate change, but ignore the fact that these poor people that are suffering from TDS/EDS are now going around and setting fire to Teslas increasing the carbon footprint. Then the TDS/EDS crowd get distracted by the big orange man having a few electrical cars over at the Whitehouse and complain about the Whitehouse becoming a car dealership. Seems there is a short in their memory (get it electric cars, short in the memory)!!! How about the last administration bringing all the electrical car brands in the US to the Whitehouse, but childishly snubbed the Pioneer of electrical cars. https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/05/business/tesla-snub-white-house-event/index.html Please go sit on a couch in some cozy office and see if you can manage to get over your hate issues. | |||
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"Uk bucking the trend with UK sales of Tesla up 20% in Feb. Is that because of Musk's challenge on Labour, or maybe we are less concerned about what Musk says compared to others. I think its more about other factors than what the owner thinks of a political party, reliability etc .. Not enough infrastructure to tempt us yet.. The trend is on the down, how does the increase compare in relation to Germany, France etc? He might need to refocus on his core business at the moment instead of upsetting the other secretaries of state..
Tesla sales are down in Germany and the EU for Feb. They are also declining heavily in China.
I believe there are several contributing factors impacting the decline in Tesla sales other than the Musk - Trump effect, but it would be blinkered to not acknowledge Musk is sabotaging his own sales channels.
Maybe he wants to sell that part of his empire and concentrate more on AI..
Unlikely, the development of battery technology and manufacturing is driven through Tesla, and that is woven into SpaceX for future developments towards longer term missions.
Would you buy shares in Tesla or would being a shareholder in the Musk group be a step you would not be willing to take?
When we did have a modest portfolio we left it to the company who looked after it, tbh it wouldn't bother me personally as the company owner being a bit bat shit comes secondary to what the returns are..
Otherwise one might invest it in the church of England..
Or the Vatican..
Tesla shares are down 49% from December, refreshed model Y and a rumour of a low price model coming soon. Could those pesky leftists prevent a big pay day....
Nerd post coming…
No… I would argue that as good as the model 3, Y, S and X are…. The focus of Tesla was on North America where they like “a bigger car”… he has spent so long getting comfortable there.. they are late to the party for European and Asian markets that like smaller cars… they don’t do the B/C class “crossover SUV”
So whatever Tesla has coming has to either compete with the Kia ev3’s or Skoda elroq in the crossover SUV sector….or do they go super mini and compete with the Ev1, or Hyundai inster or the Renault 5
What I have heard on the rumour mill is cheap SUV sized. That doesn't give a lot of info, but reading your list I could see the gap that needs plugging.
I can see opportunity in TSLA right now, but Musk has made it a little more risky for sure. "Tesla/Musk have proposed similar in the past & no delivery. He is a great man for promising stuff & then not delivering; look at Boring Company, Hyperloop, Tesla Truck, Starship... Tesla are poor build quality compared to establishment companies. The build quality of a standard Chinese car is much better than a Tesla | |||
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"Uk bucking the trend with UK sales of Tesla up 20% in Feb. Is that because of Musk's challenge on Labour, or maybe we are less concerned about what Musk says compared to others. I think its more about other factors than what the owner thinks of a political party, reliability etc .. Not enough infrastructure to tempt us yet.. The trend is on the down, how does the increase compare in relation to Germany, France etc? He might need to refocus on his core business at the moment instead of upsetting the other secretaries of state..
Tesla sales are down in Germany and the EU for Feb. They are also declining heavily in China.
I believe there are several contributing factors impacting the decline in Tesla sales other than the Musk - Trump effect, but it would be blinkered to not acknowledge Musk is sabotaging his own sales channels.
Maybe he wants to sell that part of his empire and concentrate more on AI..
Unlikely, the development of battery technology and manufacturing is driven through Tesla, and that is woven into SpaceX for future developments towards longer term missions.
Would you buy shares in Tesla or would being a shareholder in the Musk group be a step you would not be willing to take?
When we did have a modest portfolio we left it to the company who looked after it, tbh it wouldn't bother me personally as the company owner being a bit bat shit comes secondary to what the returns are..
Otherwise one might invest it in the church of England..
Or the Vatican..
Tesla shares are down 49% from December, refreshed model Y and a rumour of a low price model coming soon. Could those pesky leftists prevent a big pay day....
Nerd post coming…
No… I would argue that as good as the model 3, Y, S and X are…. The focus of Tesla was on North America where they like “a bigger car”… he has spent so long getting comfortable there.. they are late to the party for European and Asian markets that like smaller cars… they don’t do the B/C class “crossover SUV”
So whatever Tesla has coming has to either compete with the Kia ev3’s or Skoda elroq in the crossover SUV sector….or do they go super mini and compete with the Ev1, or Hyundai inster or the Renault 5
What I have heard on the rumour mill is cheap SUV sized. That doesn't give a lot of info, but reading your list I could see the gap that needs plugging.
I can see opportunity in TSLA right now, but Musk has made it a little more risky for sure.
Tesla/Musk have proposed similar in the past & no delivery.
He is a great man for promising stuff & then not delivering; look at Boring Company, Hyperloop, Tesla Truck, Starship...
Tesla are poor build quality compared to establishment companies.
The build quality of a standard Chinese car is much better than a Tesla"Trust issues with Chinese models exist, build quality compared to others is lacking but battery tech wins out, and everyone knows Musk over promises and under delivers. However, that didn't stop TSLA becoming the most valuable car manufacturer in the world. The dip in share price could be a temporary situation especially if a new model is well received even if it is on paper, people love the hype | |||
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"Another successful destruction of Elon's spacecraft today. Like many Americans, I'm so upset that Elon wasn't on it. "lol the OP’s sentiment resonates with 1880’s and early 1900’s …….. especially as the designers/producers of the first car and aeroplane were also deemed societal outcasts and wealthy above their stations. | |||
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"Uk bucking the trend with UK sales of Tesla up 20% in Feb. Is that because of Musk's challenge on Labour, or maybe we are less concerned about what Musk says compared to others. I think its more about other factors than what the owner thinks of a political party, reliability etc .. Not enough infrastructure to tempt us yet.. The trend is on the down, how does the increase compare in relation to Germany, France etc? He might need to refocus on his core business at the moment instead of upsetting the other secretaries of state..
Tesla sales are down in Germany and the EU for Feb. They are also declining heavily in China.
I believe there are several contributing factors impacting the decline in Tesla sales other than the Musk - Trump effect, but it would be blinkered to not acknowledge Musk is sabotaging his own sales channels.
Maybe he wants to sell that part of his empire and concentrate more on AI..
Unlikely, the development of battery technology and manufacturing is driven through Tesla, and that is woven into SpaceX for future developments towards longer term missions.
Would you buy shares in Tesla or would being a shareholder in the Musk group be a step you would not be willing to take?
When we did have a modest portfolio we left it to the company who looked after it, tbh it wouldn't bother me personally as the company owner being a bit bat shit comes secondary to what the returns are..
Otherwise one might invest it in the church of England..
Or the Vatican..
Tesla shares are down 49% from December, refreshed model Y and a rumour of a low price model coming soon. Could those pesky leftists prevent a big pay day....
Nerd post coming…
No… I would argue that as good as the model 3, Y, S and X are…. The focus of Tesla was on North America where they like “a bigger car”… he has spent so long getting comfortable there.. they are late to the party for European and Asian markets that like smaller cars… they don’t do the B/C class “crossover SUV”
So whatever Tesla has coming has to either compete with the Kia ev3’s or Skoda elroq in the crossover SUV sector….or do they go super mini and compete with the Ev1, or Hyundai inster or the Renault 5
What I have heard on the rumour mill is cheap SUV sized. That doesn't give a lot of info, but reading your list I could see the gap that needs plugging.
I can see opportunity in TSLA right now, but Musk has made it a little more risky for sure.
Tesla/Musk have proposed similar in the past & no delivery.
He is a great man for promising stuff & then not delivering; look at Boring Company, Hyperloop, Tesla Truck, Starship...
Tesla are poor build quality compared to establishment companies.
The build quality of a standard Chinese car is much better than a Tesla
Trust issues with Chinese models exist, build quality compared to others is lacking but battery tech wins out, and everyone knows Musk over promises and under delivers. However, that didn't stop TSLA becoming the most valuable car manufacturer in the world. The dip in share price could be a temporary situation especially if a new model is well received even if it is on paper, people love the hype "??? Tesla is using Chinese battery tech; CATL is their majority battery supplier, especially for China built Teslas. In terms of battery management software; China OEM are setting the trend now & will only move ahead of their competitors. Trust issues; I don't think customers really care so much, TBH but is a point. I think for most people, an affordable car, with good quality, service is most critical, & Tesla is relatively poor on quality...& that's before people consider Musk's politics. | |||
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"Another successful destruction of Elon's spacecraft today. Like many Americans, I'm so upset that Elon wasn't on it.
Such a disappointing and mean reason to start a thread.
You have a spaceman and a space woman stuck up in space. An administration that is thankfully out of office now that refused to help and refused an offer for help from Space X. But yet this thread is about rejoicing that one of the rockets that could have gone up to save these two brave astronauts.
Then in this thread we start talking about greenhouse and climate change, but ignore the fact that these poor people that are suffering from TDS/EDS are now going around and setting fire to Teslas increasing the carbon footprint.
Then the TDS/EDS crowd get distracted by the big orange man having a few electrical cars over at the Whitehouse and complain about the Whitehouse becoming a car dealership. Seems there is a short in their memory (get it electric cars, short in the memory)!!!
How about the last administration bringing all the electrical car brands in the US to the Whitehouse, but childishly snubbed the Pioneer of electrical cars.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/05/business/tesla-snub-white-house-event/index.html
Please go sit on a couch in some cozy office and see if you can manage to get over your hate issues."So much “wrong” in this post… the two Tesla rockets that have exploded are not the same ones that go up and down from the ISS (international space station) otherwise NASA would not be allowing them to use that vehicle to go up and get them! So for you to use that as a excuse for attacking posters is out of order… | |||
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"Uk bucking the trend with UK sales of Tesla up 20% in Feb. Is that because of Musk's challenge on Labour, or maybe we are less concerned about what Musk says compared to others. I think its more about other factors than what the owner thinks of a political party, reliability etc .. Not enough infrastructure to tempt us yet.. The trend is on the down, how does the increase compare in relation to Germany, France etc? He might need to refocus on his core business at the moment instead of upsetting the other secretaries of state..
Tesla sales are down in Germany and the EU for Feb. They are also declining heavily in China.
I believe there are several contributing factors impacting the decline in Tesla sales other than the Musk - Trump effect, but it would be blinkered to not acknowledge Musk is sabotaging his own sales channels.
Maybe he wants to sell that part of his empire and concentrate more on AI..
Unlikely, the development of battery technology and manufacturing is driven through Tesla, and that is woven into SpaceX for future developments towards longer term missions.
Would you buy shares in Tesla or would being a shareholder in the Musk group be a step you would not be willing to take?
When we did have a modest portfolio we left it to the company who looked after it, tbh it wouldn't bother me personally as the company owner being a bit bat shit comes secondary to what the returns are..
Otherwise one might invest it in the church of England..
Or the Vatican..
Tesla shares are down 49% from December, refreshed model Y and a rumour of a low price model coming soon. Could those pesky leftists prevent a big pay day....
Nerd post coming…
No… I would argue that as good as the model 3, Y, S and X are…. The focus of Tesla was on North America where they like “a bigger car”… he has spent so long getting comfortable there.. they are late to the party for European and Asian markets that like smaller cars… they don’t do the B/C class “crossover SUV”
So whatever Tesla has coming has to either compete with the Kia ev3’s or Skoda elroq in the crossover SUV sector….or do they go super mini and compete with the Ev1, or Hyundai inster or the Renault 5
What I have heard on the rumour mill is cheap SUV sized. That doesn't give a lot of info, but reading your list I could see the gap that needs plugging.
I can see opportunity in TSLA right now, but Musk has made it a little more risky for sure.
Tesla/Musk have proposed similar in the past & no delivery.
He is a great man for promising stuff & then not delivering; look at Boring Company, Hyperloop, Tesla Truck, Starship...
Tesla are poor build quality compared to establishment companies.
The build quality of a standard Chinese car is much better than a Tesla
Trust issues with Chinese models exist, build quality compared to others is lacking but battery tech wins out, and everyone knows Musk over promises and under delivers. However, that didn't stop TSLA becoming the most valuable car manufacturer in the world. The dip in share price could be a temporary situation especially if a new model is well received even if it is on paper, people love the hype
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Tesla is using Chinese battery tech; CATL is their majority battery supplier, especially for China built Teslas.
In terms of battery management software; China OEM are setting the trend now & will only move ahead of their competitors.
Trust issues; I don't think customers really care so much, TBH but is a point.
I think for most people, an affordable car, with good quality, service is most critical, & Tesla is relatively poor on quality...& that's before people consider Musk's politics.
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"Uk bucking the trend with UK sales of Tesla up 20% in Feb. Is that because of Musk's challenge on Labour, or maybe we are less concerned about what Musk says compared to others. I think its more about other factors than what the owner thinks of a political party, reliability etc .. Not enough infrastructure to tempt us yet.. The trend is on the down, how does the increase compare in relation to Germany, France etc? He might need to refocus on his core business at the moment instead of upsetting the other secretaries of state..
Tesla sales are down in Germany and the EU for Feb. They are also declining heavily in China.
I believe there are several contributing factors impacting the decline in Tesla sales other than the Musk - Trump effect, but it would be blinkered to not acknowledge Musk is sabotaging his own sales channels.
Maybe he wants to sell that part of his empire and concentrate more on AI..
Unlikely, the development of battery technology and manufacturing is driven through Tesla, and that is woven into SpaceX for future developments towards longer term missions.
Would you buy shares in Tesla or would being a shareholder in the Musk group be a step you would not be willing to take?
When we did have a modest portfolio we left it to the company who looked after it, tbh it wouldn't bother me personally as the company owner being a bit bat shit comes secondary to what the returns are..
Otherwise one might invest it in the church of England..
Or the Vatican..
Tesla shares are down 49% from December, refreshed model Y and a rumour of a low price model coming soon. Could those pesky leftists prevent a big pay day....
Nerd post coming…
No… I would argue that as good as the model 3, Y, S and X are…. The focus of Tesla was on North America where they like “a bigger car”… he has spent so long getting comfortable there.. they are late to the party for European and Asian markets that like smaller cars… they don’t do the B/C class “crossover SUV”
So whatever Tesla has coming has to either compete with the Kia ev3’s or Skoda elroq in the crossover SUV sector….or do they go super mini and compete with the Ev1, or Hyundai inster or the Renault 5
What I have heard on the rumour mill is cheap SUV sized. That doesn't give a lot of info, but reading your list I could see the gap that needs plugging.
I can see opportunity in TSLA right now, but Musk has made it a little more risky for sure.
Tesla/Musk have proposed similar in the past & no delivery.
He is a great man for promising stuff & then not delivering; look at Boring Company, Hyperloop, Tesla Truck, Starship...
Tesla are poor build quality compared to establishment companies.
The build quality of a standard Chinese car is much better than a Tesla
Trust issues with Chinese models exist, build quality compared to others is lacking but battery tech wins out, and everyone knows Musk over promises and under delivers. However, that didn't stop TSLA becoming the most valuable car manufacturer in the world. The dip in share price could be a temporary situation especially if a new model is well received even if it is on paper, people love the hype
???
Tesla is using Chinese battery tech; CATL is their majority battery supplier, especially for China built Teslas.
In terms of battery management software; China OEM are setting the trend now & will only move ahead of their competitors.
Trust issues; I don't think customers really care so much, TBH but is a point.
I think for most people, an affordable car, with good quality, service is most critical, & Tesla is relatively poor on quality...& that's before people consider Musk's politics.
I think you have just ignored what I have said which was mostly agreeing with you You have Musk issues but don't believe everyone thinks like you, it is whether the public buy the hype that interests me financially, and I will act accordingly to hopefully gain from that. "Nice ad hominem there | |||
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"Uk bucking the trend with UK sales of Tesla up 20% in Feb. Is that because of Musk's challenge on Labour, or maybe we are less concerned about what Musk says compared to others. I think its more about other factors than what the owner thinks of a political party, reliability etc .. Not enough infrastructure to tempt us yet.. The trend is on the down, how does the increase compare in relation to Germany, France etc? He might need to refocus on his core business at the moment instead of upsetting the other secretaries of state..
Tesla sales are down in Germany and the EU for Feb. They are also declining heavily in China.
I believe there are several contributing factors impacting the decline in Tesla sales other than the Musk - Trump effect, but it would be blinkered to not acknowledge Musk is sabotaging his own sales channels.
Maybe he wants to sell that part of his empire and concentrate more on AI..
Unlikely, the development of battery technology and manufacturing is driven through Tesla, and that is woven into SpaceX for future developments towards longer term missions.
Would you buy shares in Tesla or would being a shareholder in the Musk group be a step you would not be willing to take?
When we did have a modest portfolio we left it to the company who looked after it, tbh it wouldn't bother me personally as the company owner being a bit bat shit comes secondary to what the returns are..
Otherwise one might invest it in the church of England..
Or the Vatican..
Tesla shares are down 49% from December, refreshed model Y and a rumour of a low price model coming soon. Could those pesky leftists prevent a big pay day....
Nerd post coming…
No… I would argue that as good as the model 3, Y, S and X are…. The focus of Tesla was on North America where they like “a bigger car”… he has spent so long getting comfortable there.. they are late to the party for European and Asian markets that like smaller cars… they don’t do the B/C class “crossover SUV”
So whatever Tesla has coming has to either compete with the Kia ev3’s or Skoda elroq in the crossover SUV sector….or do they go super mini and compete with the Ev1, or Hyundai inster or the Renault 5
What I have heard on the rumour mill is cheap SUV sized. That doesn't give a lot of info, but reading your list I could see the gap that needs plugging.
I can see opportunity in TSLA right now, but Musk has made it a little more risky for sure.
Tesla/Musk have proposed similar in the past & no delivery.
He is a great man for promising stuff & then not delivering; look at Boring Company, Hyperloop, Tesla Truck, Starship...
Tesla are poor build quality compared to establishment companies.
The build quality of a standard Chinese car is much better than a Tesla
Trust issues with Chinese models exist, build quality compared to others is lacking but battery tech wins out, and everyone knows Musk over promises and under delivers. However, that didn't stop TSLA becoming the most valuable car manufacturer in the world. The dip in share price could be a temporary situation especially if a new model is well received even if it is on paper, people love the hype
???
Tesla is using Chinese battery tech; CATL is their majority battery supplier, especially for China built Teslas.
In terms of battery management software; China OEM are setting the trend now & will only move ahead of their competitors.
Trust issues; I don't think customers really care so much, TBH but is a point.
I think for most people, an affordable car, with good quality, service is most critical, & Tesla is relatively poor on quality...& that's before people consider Musk's politics.
I think you have just ignored what I have said which was mostly agreeing with you You have Musk issues but don't believe everyone thinks like you, it is whether the public buy the hype that interests me financially, and I will act accordingly to hopefully gain from that.
Nice ad hominem there"Not sure how you got to that when as I said, I agree with most of what you said. I think you missed the point that I wasn’t saying if the car was good, bad or other, rather the 49% drop in share price. | |||
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"Uk bucking the trend with UK sales of Tesla up 20% in Feb. Is that because of Musk's challenge on Labour, or maybe we are less concerned about what Musk says compared to others. I think its more about other factors than what the owner thinks of a political party, reliability etc .. Not enough infrastructure to tempt us yet.. The trend is on the down, how does the increase compare in relation to Germany, France etc? He might need to refocus on his core business at the moment instead of upsetting the other secretaries of state..
Tesla sales are down in Germany and the EU for Feb. They are also declining heavily in China.
I believe there are several contributing factors impacting the decline in Tesla sales other than the Musk - Trump effect, but it would be blinkered to not acknowledge Musk is sabotaging his own sales channels.
Maybe he wants to sell that part of his empire and concentrate more on AI..
Unlikely, the development of battery technology and manufacturing is driven through Tesla, and that is woven into SpaceX for future developments towards longer term missions.
Would you buy shares in Tesla or would being a shareholder in the Musk group be a step you would not be willing to take?
When we did have a modest portfolio we left it to the company who looked after it, tbh it wouldn't bother me personally as the company owner being a bit bat shit comes secondary to what the returns are..
Otherwise one might invest it in the church of England..
Or the Vatican..
Tesla shares are down 49% from December, refreshed model Y and a rumour of a low price model coming soon. Could those pesky leftists prevent a big pay day....
Nerd post coming…
No… I would argue that as good as the model 3, Y, S and X are…. The focus of Tesla was on North America where they like “a bigger car”… he has spent so long getting comfortable there.. they are late to the party for European and Asian markets that like smaller cars… they don’t do the B/C class “crossover SUV”
So whatever Tesla has coming has to either compete with the Kia ev3’s or Skoda elroq in the crossover SUV sector….or do they go super mini and compete with the Ev1, or Hyundai inster or the Renault 5
What I have heard on the rumour mill is cheap SUV sized. That doesn't give a lot of info, but reading your list I could see the gap that needs plugging.
I can see opportunity in TSLA right now, but Musk has made it a little more risky for sure.
Tesla/Musk have proposed similar in the past & no delivery.
He is a great man for promising stuff & then not delivering; look at Boring Company, Hyperloop, Tesla Truck, Starship...
Tesla are poor build quality compared to establishment companies.
The build quality of a standard Chinese car is much better than a Tesla
Trust issues with Chinese models exist, build quality compared to others is lacking but battery tech wins out, and everyone knows Musk over promises and under delivers. However, that didn't stop TSLA becoming the most valuable car manufacturer in the world. The dip in share price could be a temporary situation especially if a new model is well received even if it is on paper, people love the hype
???
Tesla is using Chinese battery tech; CATL is their majority battery supplier, especially for China built Teslas.
In terms of battery management software; China OEM are setting the trend now & will only move ahead of their competitors.
Trust issues; I don't think customers really care so much, TBH but is a point.
I think for most people, an affordable car, with good quality, service is most critical, & Tesla is relatively poor on quality...& that's before people consider Musk's politics.
"That’s a little bit unfair… I would worry about American built Tesla because they were notorious of their quality.. because the Chinese and Berlin factories are newer those are a lot better build quality (the right hand drive tesla’s are all built in their Chinese factory…) | |||
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"Another successful destruction of Elon's spacecraft today. Like many Americans, I'm so upset that Elon wasn't on it. "Sounds like a bunch of liberals on here wishing for destruction once more instead of rejoicing in Elon Musks successful launch to retrieve stranded Astronauts that joey left to die. That's ok keep on whining about Tesla cars because the owner is cutting fraud and waste in the US government. https://www.instagram.com/reel/DHNH_MosxqN/?igsh=MWZiaDBqZTZpazB4ag== https://news.sky.com/video/spacex-crew-docks-at-iss-to-bring-back-stranded-astronauts-13329956 | |||
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"Another successful destruction of Elon's spacecraft today. Like many Americans, I'm so upset that Elon wasn't on it.
Sounds like a bunch of liberals on here wishing for destruction once more instead of rejoicing in Elon Musks successful launch to retrieve stranded Astronauts that joey left to die.
That's ok keep on whining about Tesla cars because the owner is cutting fraud and waste in the US government.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DHNH_MosxqN/?igsh=MWZiaDBqZTZpazB4ag==
https://news.sky.com/video/spacex-crew-docks-at-iss-to-bring-back-stranded-astronauts-13329956
"So not going to apologise then… or you have a severe case of amnesia because if you had looked up about 15 posts to your last diatribe, you would have seen that the rockets that exploded, which are experimental rockets for their mars missions, are NOT the same rockets they use for missions to the ISS, which are the falcon 9 rockets! The reason they were up there for so long is that the original craft that was sent up to get them to come back, which was the NASA Boeing starliner, developed a fault on the way up, to the point where 9 of the 23 rocket engines on it stopped working They could have come back on it but NASA didn’t want to take that kind of risk (it actually came back empty and landed safely) Stop conflating the two to try and make whatever point scoring exercise you think you are trying to make! | |||
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"Another successful destruction of Elon's spacecraft today. Like many Americans, I'm so upset that Elon wasn't on it.
Sounds like a bunch of liberals on here wishing for destruction once more instead of rejoicing in Elon Musks successful launch to retrieve stranded Astronauts that joey left to die.
That's ok keep on whining about Tesla cars because the owner is cutting fraud and waste in the US government.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DHNH_MosxqN/?igsh=MWZiaDBqZTZpazB4ag==
https://news.sky.com/video/spacex-crew-docks-at-iss-to-bring-back-stranded-astronauts-13329956
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Left to die!!
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"Another successful destruction of Elon's spacecraft today. Like many Americans, I'm so upset that Elon wasn't on it.
Sounds like a bunch of liberals on here wishing for destruction once more instead of rejoicing in Elon Musks successful launch to retrieve stranded Astronauts that joey left to die.
That's ok keep on whining about Tesla cars because the owner is cutting fraud and waste in the US government.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DHNH_MosxqN/?igsh=MWZiaDBqZTZpazB4ag==
https://news.sky.com/video/spacex-crew-docks-at-iss-to-bring-back-stranded-astronauts-13329956
So not going to apologise then… or you have a severe case of amnesia because if you had looked up about 15 posts to your last diatribe, you would have seen that the rockets that exploded, which are experimental rockets for their mars missions, are NOT the same rockets they use for missions to the ISS, which are the falcon 9 rockets!
The reason they were up there for so long is that the original craft that was sent up to get them to come back, which was the NASA Boeing starliner, developed a fault on the way up, to the point where 9 of the 23 rocket engines on it stopped working
They could have come back on it but NASA didn’t want to take that kind of risk (it actually came back empty and landed safely)
Stop conflating the two to try and make whatever point scoring exercise you think you are trying to make! "Apologies for what? Clear to me that you are trying to deflect. Bottom line OP should have been taken down for wishing death on another person joey and his clown show abandoned these astronauts up there. Was offered by Elon Musk to send a rocket to rescue them, however they turned their back on them. This post has now become a hate Tesla and Elon Musk thread. Sounds like someone has hurt feelings because there has been a post redirecting this to the original subject, and a point was made that Elon Musk has had a successful launch and is on the way to saving these Astronauts. But crack on with postings about this and that with no links showing any truth to what you are saying. | |||
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"Uk bucking the trend with UK sales of Tesla up 20% in Feb. Is that because of Musk's challenge on Labour, or maybe we are less concerned about what Musk says compared to others. I think its more about other factors than what the owner thinks of a political party, reliability etc .. Not enough infrastructure to tempt us yet.. The trend is on the down, how does the increase compare in relation to Germany, France etc? He might need to refocus on his core business at the moment instead of upsetting the other secretaries of state..
Tesla sales are down in Germany and the EU for Feb. They are also declining heavily in China.
I believe there are several contributing factors impacting the decline in Tesla sales other than the Musk - Trump effect, but it would be blinkered to not acknowledge Musk is sabotaging his own sales channels.
Maybe he wants to sell that part of his empire and concentrate more on AI..
Unlikely, the development of battery technology and manufacturing is driven through Tesla, and that is woven into SpaceX for future developments towards longer term missions.
Would you buy shares in Tesla or would being a shareholder in the Musk group be a step you would not be willing to take? "For the amount they have lost in the last couple of weeks (about 40% of value) the people at JP Morgan and the people at Goldman Sachs’s still think that Tesla shares are ridiculously overvalued… and could fall as low as 120 per share (they are at 250 per share now) Because Elons wealth is basically tied to his Tesla shares which have been used as collateral… the easiest way to get at him is to make his life at Tesla really uncomfortable.. and that’s what the protesters have figured out | |||
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"Uk bucking the trend with UK sales of Tesla up 20% in Feb. Is that because of Musk's challenge on Labour, or maybe we are less concerned about what Musk says compared to others. I think its more about other factors than what the owner thinks of a political party, reliability etc .. Not enough infrastructure to tempt us yet.. The trend is on the down, how does the increase compare in relation to Germany, France etc? He might need to refocus on his core business at the moment instead of upsetting the other secretaries of state..
Tesla sales are down in Germany and the EU for Feb. They are also declining heavily in China.
I believe there are several contributing factors impacting the decline in Tesla sales other than the Musk - Trump effect, but it would be blinkered to not acknowledge Musk is sabotaging his own sales channels.
Maybe he wants to sell that part of his empire and concentrate more on AI..
Unlikely, the development of battery technology and manufacturing is driven through Tesla, and that is woven into SpaceX for future developments towards longer term missions.
Would you buy shares in Tesla or would being a shareholder in the Musk group be a step you would not be willing to take?
For the amount they have lost in the last couple of weeks (about 40% of value) the people at JP Morgan and the people at Goldman Sachs’s still think that Tesla shares are ridiculously overvalued… and could fall as low as 120 per share (they are at 250 per share now)
Because Elons wealth is basically tied to his Tesla shares which have been used as collateral… the easiest way to get at him is to make his life at Tesla really uncomfortable.. and that’s what the protesters have figured out "The Tesla share price is about 50% higher than it was a year ago. And around 500% higher than it was five years ago. Much of the US stock market is over valued and has been for a long time. There is nothing particularly unique about Tesla. | |||
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"Another successful destruction of Elon's spacecraft today. Like many Americans, I'm so upset that Elon wasn't on it.
Sounds like a bunch of liberals on here wishing for destruction once more instead of rejoicing in Elon Musks successful launch to retrieve stranded Astronauts that joey left to die.
That's ok keep on whining about Tesla cars because the owner is cutting fraud and waste in the US government.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DHNH_MosxqN/?igsh=MWZiaDBqZTZpazB4ag==
https://news.sky.com/video/spacex-crew-docks-at-iss-to-bring-back-stranded-astronauts-13329956
So not going to apologise then… or you have a severe case of amnesia because if you had looked up about 15 posts to your last diatribe, you would have seen that the rockets that exploded, which are experimental rockets for their mars missions, are NOT the same rockets they use for missions to the ISS, which are the falcon 9 rockets!
The reason they were up there for so long is that the original craft that was sent up to get them to come back, which was the NASA Boeing starliner, developed a fault on the way up, to the point where 9 of the 23 rocket engines on it stopped working
They could have come back on it but NASA didn’t want to take that kind of risk (it actually came back empty and landed safely)
Stop conflating the two to try and make whatever point scoring exercise you think you are trying to make!
Apologies for what?
Clear to me that you are trying to deflect.
Bottom line OP should have been taken down for wishing death on another person
joey and his clown show abandoned these astronauts up there. Was offered by Elon Musk to send a rocket to rescue them, however they turned their back on them.
This post has now become a hate Tesla and Elon Musk thread.
Sounds like someone has hurt feelings because there has been a post redirecting this to the original subject, and a point was made that Elon Musk has had a successful launch and is on the way to saving these Astronauts.
But crack on with postings about this and that with no links showing any truth to what you are saying. "Please don’t demean me by the “throwing shit at the wall and see what sticks “ strategy So which bit are you claiming I am “lying” about….. Was it that the space x rockets that exploded were the “starship rockets” ( which is actually easily checkable via space x website itself.. and the launches themselves which are readily available and accessible on YouTube) Was it that the space x rockets they use to go up to the ISS are not these experimental starship rockets but are the falcon 9 rockets ( which is actually easily checkable via space x website itself.. and the launches which are readily available and accessible on YouTube) Fun fact about the falcon 9 rocket in question… 49th time the reusable rocket has been launched… how do I know this? Because it bloody said so on the actual broadcast!!!!
Was it that the NASA Boeing Starliner capsule sent up developed problems so they sent it back to earth empty thru an abundance of caution and confirmed upon landing and examination that 9 of the 23 rockets had failed to work? We know this because of reports both NASA had to file because they are a government agency.. and Boeing had to file for shareholders and the FAA!
Won’t hold my breath for the apology…. I wouldn’t expect that decency.
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