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By *eoBlooms OP   Man
7 weeks ago

Springfield

A new report from a conservative leaning think thank puts the cost of crime in Britain at up to £250bn pa, as much as 10% of Gdp.

This includes direct costs such as property loss and indirect ones such as changing behaviour to avoid or deter crime.

Serious violent crime has increased sharply in the last ten years while the number of crimes solved by police has fallen.

Do we take crime seriously in the UK, and if not why not ?

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By *uffleskloofMan
7 weeks ago

Walsall

No, unless it’s policing comments made online, which is the easiest sort of “crime” for the police to resolve.

In many cases it is clear who has said what. And they can do it while sitting at a desk eating donuts. The only time they need to get out of the chair is when they have to go and arrest some 70 year old.

Other crimes involve a lot more effort.

And if God forbid they have to deal with a murderer or drug dealer there is always a risk of violence. Which most of them are probably ill equipped to deal with.

Most coppers today are just obese slobs with tattoos everywhere.

And property crimes they just hand out a crime reference number and leave it to the insurers.

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By *uddy laneMan
7 weeks ago

dudley

Correct me if I am wrong, I am certain that the black market, crime, sex work, the city of London fraudsters ha ha are included in the uk GDP figures.

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By *oubleswing2019Man
7 weeks ago

Colchester

It is a shocking figure. It would be interesting to see how other countries stack up in that regards too.

It is of little surprise that certain high-net worth individuals tend to employ a "chauffeur" who has previous law-enforcement/military experience.

Whereas that "bodyguard" status used to be more the preserve of the "ultra wealthy", I am seeing more and more of the "very wealthy" adopt the same approach.

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By *eoBlooms OP   Man
7 weeks ago

Springfield


"It is a shocking figure. It would be interesting to see how other countries stack up in that regards too.

It is of little surprise that certain high-net worth individuals tend to employ a "chauffeur" who has previous law-enforcement/military experience.

Whereas that "bodyguard" status used to be more the preserve of the "ultra wealthy", I am seeing more and more of the "very wealthy" adopt the same approach. "

Lots of quite ordinary neighbourhoods in London now employ private security to patrol.

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By *oubleswing2019Man
7 weeks ago

Colchester


"Lots of quite ordinary neighbourhoods in London now employ private security to patrol."

Do they ? I had no idea. I've not been to London for 20+ years.

What sort of "policing" do they private security do, and are they expensive to employ ?

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By *m389Man
7 weeks ago

Magherafelt

Someone dawned on my recently after moving away from London. Everywhere in London, you see warnings and notices to beware of criminals, pick pockets etc...

How far have we fallen as society that we need these sort of messages bombarded at us. It not only creates an unsafe vibe, and it primes people to be on edge. Creating an atmosphere that criminals are everywhere and if you don't look after yourself, you'll be victim.

How dystopian have we become?

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By *melie LALWoman
7 weeks ago

arsehole


"No, unless it’s policing comments made online, which is the easiest sort of “crime” for the police to resolve.

In many cases it is clear who has said what. And they can do it while sitting at a desk eating donuts. The only time they need to get out of the chair is when they have to go and arrest some 70 year old.

Other crimes involve a lot more effort.

And if God forbid they have to deal with a murderer or drug dealer there is always a risk of violence. Which most of them are probably ill equipped to deal with.

Most coppers today are just obese slobs with tattoos everywhere.

And property crimes they just hand out a crime reference number and leave it to the insurers.

"

And all in the last 7 months, eh, eh, eh?

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By *ecadentDeviantsCouple
7 weeks ago

Stratford

We don’t take crime seriously enough in the UK

Justice budgets have been cut since the era of austerity which is why we don’t have enough prison spaces. Criminals & would be criminals know this so can take advantage of that situation.

Austerity causes more inequality & those on the receiving end may also be more likely to turn to crime.

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By *eoBlooms OP   Man
7 weeks ago

Springfield


"Someone dawned on my recently after moving away from London. Everywhere in London, you see warnings and notices to beware of criminals, pick pockets etc...

How far have we fallen as society that we need these sort of messages bombarded at us. It not only creates an unsafe vibe, and it primes people to be on edge. Creating an atmosphere that criminals are everywhere and if you don't look after yourself, you'll be victim.

How dystopian have we become?

"

We've gone from a high trust society to a low trust one.

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By *eoBlooms OP   Man
7 weeks ago

Springfield


"We don’t take crime seriously enough in the UK

Justice budgets have been cut since the era of austerity which is why we don’t have enough prison spaces. Criminals & would be criminals know this so can take advantage of that situation.

Austerity causes more inequality & those on the receiving end may also be more likely to turn to crime."

Very well put.

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By *eoBlooms OP   Man
7 weeks ago

Springfield


"Lots of quite ordinary neighbourhoods in London now employ private security to patrol.

Do they ? I had no idea. I've not been to London for 20+ years.

What sort of "policing" do they private security do, and are they expensive to employ ?"

There's a popular service called MyLocalBobby, costs about £100 per household a month I believe.

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By *ellhungvweMan
7 weeks ago

Cheltenham

People don’t report crime because they know it will takes ages to be dealt with. Police try to avoid dealing with certain types of crime because they know it will take ages to deal with. Criminals know that they can get away with certain types of crime because it won’t be dealt with.

The easiest way to revise the cost of crime is to make justice faster. The courts system is fundamentally broken and needs to be sped up. Speeding up access to justice and removing any backlog would mean the consequences of actions are dealt with faster so people know they wouldn’t get away with it for longer. Less time wasted on lost court dates, reduced legal costs, etc.

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By *hrill CollinsMan
7 weeks ago

The Outer Rim

15 years of home secretaries fighting the police force and judiciary rather than fighting crime .... what did people think would happen?

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By (user no longer on site)
7 weeks ago

In 2010 the cuts to the police were focused on the experienced officers because they were the highest paid.

The last government belatedly started to recruit new officers but that has lead to a high percentage of officers with less than 5 years experience and the retention rate has declined with a lot of the new recruits not completing their probation.

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By *eoBlooms OP   Man
7 weeks ago

Springfield


"In 2010 the cuts to the police were focused on the experienced officers because they were the highest paid.

The last government belatedly started to recruit new officers but that has lead to a high percentage of officers with less than 5 years experience and the retention rate has declined with a lot of the new recruits not completing their probation."

Very interesting, thanks Gemma.

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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man
7 weeks ago

BRIDPORT

A couple of years ago my neighbour had serious cause to call the police out one night, keep in mind this is a very rural area mainly farms, the copper wouldn’t get out the car because he didn’t want to get his shoes dirty.

My neighbour was not impressed.

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