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By *eoBlooms OP   Man
5 weeks ago

Springfield

I've been one of his critics but perhaps Sir Kier is growing into the job. I thought he had a good week with his increases to defence spending and successful trip to the US. Also impressed that he met Zelensky straight after his bashing from Trump.

Has your opinion of him changed at all recently?

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By *uffleskloofMan
5 weeks ago

Walsall

Anything that gets the economy off the front pages is good news for Labour.

The most damaging aspects of Reeves’ budget are yet to kick in.

The Ukraine situation isn’t going to make anyone in the UK better off. If it has any economic or fiscal impact at all it is going to make things worse.

I’m sure Britain “standing up to dictators” kindles some deep historic psychological recollection for people in the UK. We love being reminded of “our finest hour” and better times.

But it’s not going to pay the bills. And the economy will soon be back in the headlines.

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By *ornLordMan
5 weeks ago

Wiltshire and London

The meeting with Trump, well the offer of a state visit, was a misjudgment but I'm more impressed that he has met Zelenskyy, with a royal meeting, so soon after the ambush by the SpunkTrumpet and that evil little puddle of ejaculate Vance.

However, Starmer is soon going to have to tell Reeves that those red lines of hers can no longer apply...

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By *ellhungvweMan
5 weeks ago

Cheltenham

I was thinking the same thing tonight OP.

The fact that he stepped straight into the hole that Trump and Vance left by bashing Zelensky is interesting . Offering the meeting with the King tomorrow is a power move given he only handed the letter to Trump a couple of days ago - I read that as him saying “Fuck you”. I think that what you are seeing here. along with the summit tomorrow, is the first steps away from a US orientated foreign policy to a more autonomous one.

I think the outcome of this summit (and the following) French one could be pivotal and it looks like Starmer could be going for it.

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By *oo hotCouple
5 weeks ago

North West

My perspective is that the noise from government has reduced since last summer and that he to be a good thing in its own right. I think Starmer is OK, he is not embarrassing us on the world stage (far from it) and he is just getting on with government stuff. Personally I don’t want to feel triggered every few days by new radical policies - I just want things to to be steadfast and stable.

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By *eoBlooms OP   Man
5 weeks ago

Springfield


"The meeting with Trump, well the offer of a state visit, was a misjudgment but I'm more impressed that he has met Zelenskyy, with a royal meeting, so soon after the ambush by the SpunkTrumpet and that evil little puddle of ejaculate Vance.

However, Starmer is soon going to have to tell Reeves that those red lines of hers can no longer apply... "

Yes, the economy is the big one. Either Reeves changes course or she is changes.

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By *otMe66Man
4 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"I've been one of his critics but perhaps Sir Kier is growing into the job. I thought he had a good week with his increases to defence spending and successful trip to the US. Also impressed that he met Zelensky straight after his bashing from Trump.

Has your opinion of him changed at all recently?"

There is a huge difference between a diplomat and a leader, ask Zelensky

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By *illedbydeathCouple
4 weeks ago

dorset

He’s a useless clown

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By *idnight RamblerMan
4 weeks ago

Pershore

Depends what you think he should be aspiring to? Another Trump? Vance? Putin? Erdogan? I think the world has enough macho leaders right now, and a 'cool head' is most welcome. In the circumstances, we might be lucky to have him.

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By *idnight RamblerMan
4 weeks ago

Pershore

Depends what you think he should be aspiring to? Another Trump? Vance? Putin? Erdogan? I think the world has enough macho leaders right now, and a 'cool head' is most welcome. In the circumstances, we might just be extremely lucky to have him.

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By *exy_HornyCouple
4 weeks ago

Leigh

I don’t think he’s getting better. Both domestic and foreign policies are driven by ideological dogma not by reality.

Chagos islands - complete madness to give them to Mauritius based on some advisory ruling by a non binding court.

Trade deal with the US. If it happens it will certainly not be in our favour. There will be something in there we have rejected before, maybe with the Labour obsession with destroying our farmers it will be relaxing food standards.

And domestically, pensioners, farmers, taxes, net zero etc. All making us poorer and destroying our green spaces.

He is also a liar, fiddling with numbers in the worst way possible. For example the 18bn defence increase is nothing of the sort and it isn’t clear whether it includes the payments to Mauritius.

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By *uffleskloofMan
4 weeks ago

Walsall

Latest UK “loan” to Ukraine yesterday: £2.2 billion

Savings from scrapping Winter Fuel Allowance £2 billion.

If only the “hashtag Stand with Ukraine” posturing was free of charge.

The US seems to be very happy with the UK stepping in. Zelensky has ceased to be a US problem and has become a UK problem.

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By *eoBlooms OP   Man
4 weeks ago

Springfield

Interesting range of replies, thanks all.

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By *allnHandsome12Man
4 weeks ago

Teesside

He’s starting to look like a leader into standing upto to international aggression but domestically hasn’t improved things at all from the last 14 years. Few of his pledges seem to be happening at all but it can be hard to decipher the true impact due to left/right spin the polarisation that exists now. There is no middle ground of reasoning or nuance/context in a lot of discourse, social media hasn’t helped I don’t think.

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By *ecadentDeviantsCouple
4 weeks ago

Stratford

He’s going through the doing ‘quite badly at home so look tough abroad’ phase.

I honestly think foreign policy is the only thing that can stop Labour being ousted at the next general election.

Without foreign policy successes, I could easily see them going the way of the SPD in Germany last week. Labour’s majority maybe a mile wide but it’s only an inch deep & remember they only enjoy unopposed power under our ridiculous electoral system which both the Lab & Con parties love so much because it enables this on a minority of votes.

You’d think Labour, being a ‘progressive’ party would see this clear injustice & right the wrong. But they aren’t interested. Wonder why.

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By *melie LALWoman
4 weeks ago

Peterborough

Starmer has the support of opposition leaders on Sunday with LK (farage absent).

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By *otMe66Man
4 weeks ago

Terra Firma

Are people really going to judge the government on how Starmer supports Zelensky over Trump?

There is short sighted and this...

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
4 weeks ago

Hastings


"Anything that gets the economy off the front pages is good news for Labour.

The most damaging aspects of Reeves’ budget are yet to kick in.

The Ukraine situation isn’t going to make anyone in the UK better off. If it has any economic or fiscal impact at all it is going to make things worse.

I’m sure Britain “standing up to dictators” kindles some deep historic psychological recollection for people in the UK. We love being reminded of “our finest hour” and better times.

But it’s not going to pay the bills. And the economy will soon be back in the headlines. "

Not unless we put more in to Ukraine in the short term for a % of the minerals that could wipe out the national Debt and put the UK in a strong position. Then it's about where the cash comes from in the short term and if any other country wants in out side of the US

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By *melie LALWoman
4 weeks ago

Peterborough


"Are people really going to judge the government on how Starmer supports Zelensky over Trump?

There is short sighted and this..."

I see the support as no different to how the tories got support during covid, or at least the first two waves and ppe scandal aside.

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By *otMe66Man
4 weeks ago

Terra Firma

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By *otMe66Man
4 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"Are people really going to judge the government on how Starmer supports Zelensky over Trump?

There is short sighted and this...

I see the support as no different to how the tories got support during covid, or at least the first two waves and ppe scandal aside."

The measure of Starmer should be in the results of the government domestically as a priority and internationally as a secondary.

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By *ecadentDeviantsCouple
4 weeks ago

Stratford


"

The measure of Starmer should be in the results of the government domestically as a priority and internationally as a secondary."

Of course, but for example, those of us who remember Thatcher know that domestically she wasn’t doing too well at all. Her medicine wasn’t going down too well in the polls initially. Then the Argentinians invaded the Falklands.

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By *rDiscretionXXXMan
4 weeks ago

Gilfach


"Not unless we put more in to Ukraine in the short term for a % of the minerals that could wipe out the national Debt and put the UK in a strong position."

Ukraine doesn't have any valuable minerals. It has about the same level of rare earths as anywhere else on the planet.

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By *otMe66Man
4 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"

The measure of Starmer should be in the results of the government domestically as a priority and internationally as a secondary.

Of course, but for example, those of us who remember Thatcher know that domestically she wasn’t doing too well at all. Her medicine wasn’t going down too well in the polls initially. Then the Argentinians invaded the Falklands. "

That was a different set of circumstances though.

Here we have people applauding and cheering Starmer on because he appears to be continuing to support the military effort of Ukraine, which is the opposite direction to Trump and the US.

The war needs to end and Starmer along with Zelensky need to wake up to the fact that no amount of weaponry or money is going to turn this around in Ukraines favour.

So my opinion of Starmer is weakening, it would increase if he were to start to bring about meaningful conversations that were intended to bring the war to an end. Until then he is throwing our tax money at a war that can't be won, not to mention the needles deaths that are going on day after day.

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By *ecadentDeviantsCouple
4 weeks ago

Stratford


"

The measure of Starmer should be in the results of the government domestically as a priority and internationally as a secondary.

Of course, but for example, those of us who remember Thatcher know that domestically she wasn’t doing too well at all. Her medicine wasn’t going down too well in the polls initially. Then the Argentinians invaded the Falklands.

That was a different set of circumstances though.

Here we have people applauding and cheering Starmer on because he appears to be continuing to support the military effort of Ukraine, which is the opposite direction to Trump and the US.

The war needs to end and Starmer along with Zelensky need to wake up to the fact that no amount of weaponry or money is going to turn this around in Ukraines favour.

So my opinion of Starmer is weakening, it would increase if he were to start to bring about meaningful conversations that were intended to bring the war to an end. Until then he is throwing our tax money at a war that can't be won, not to mention the needles deaths that are going on day after day. "

I agree with you and ok, the televised Oval Office meeting was a bit of a car crash but I actually think Trump’s plan from what we know is much better than what Biden was enabling ie an incessant war.

1. The US recoups it’s financial outlay

2. US workers mining in Ukraine deter further Russian aggression

3. All the killing stops.

Sounds ok to me

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By *otMe66Man
4 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"

The measure of Starmer should be in the results of the government domestically as a priority and internationally as a secondary.

Of course, but for example, those of us who remember Thatcher know that domestically she wasn’t doing too well at all. Her medicine wasn’t going down too well in the polls initially. Then the Argentinians invaded the Falklands.

That was a different set of circumstances though.

Here we have people applauding and cheering Starmer on because he appears to be continuing to support the military effort of Ukraine, which is the opposite direction to Trump and the US.

The war needs to end and Starmer along with Zelensky need to wake up to the fact that no amount of weaponry or money is going to turn this around in Ukraines favour.

So my opinion of Starmer is weakening, it would increase if he were to start to bring about meaningful conversations that were intended to bring the war to an end. Until then he is throwing our tax money at a war that can't be won, not to mention the needles deaths that are going on day after day.

I agree with you and ok, the televised Oval Office meeting was a bit of a car crash but I actually think Trump’s plan from what we know is much better than what Biden was enabling ie an incessant war.

1. The US recoups it’s financial outlay

2. US workers mining in Ukraine deter further Russian aggression

3. All the killing stops.

Sounds ok to me "

Trump has a plan, Europe doesn't beyond throwing sacrificial money at Ukraine.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
4 weeks ago

in Lancashire

Till there's a peace plan and the only one Putin will listen to at the moment is trump, then Europe has to continue the support both militarily and sanctions..

Any lessening of such support would only lead to Russia continuing it's war and stalling talks..

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By *uffleskloofMan
4 weeks ago

Walsall

What actually is the Starmer/European plan?

They don’t seem to have one beyond going to conferences and tweeting stuff.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
4 weeks ago

in Lancashire


"What actually is the Starmer/European plan?

They don’t seem to have one beyond going to conferences and tweeting stuff."

It might so cunning a plan that they sort of don't want to put it on social media for everyone to see ..

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
4 weeks ago

Hastings


"Not unless we put more in to Ukraine in the short term for a % of the minerals that could wipe out the national Debt and put the UK in a strong position.

Ukraine doesn't have any valuable minerals. It has about the same level of rare earths as anywhere else on the planet."

Realy where is the UK’S gold mine. 🤔 don't think there is much in the way of mining hear anymore even the gypsum mine is low on deposits.

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
4 weeks ago

Hastings


"

The measure of Starmer should be in the results of the government domestically as a priority and internationally as a secondary.

Of course, but for example, those of us who remember Thatcher know that domestically she wasn’t doing too well at all. Her medicine wasn’t going down too well in the polls initially. Then the Argentinians invaded the Falklands.

That was a different set of circumstances though.

Here we have people applauding and cheering Starmer on because he appears to be continuing to support the military effort of Ukraine, which is the opposite direction to Trump and the US.

The war needs to end and Starmer along with Zelensky need to wake up to the fact that no amount of weaponry or money is going to turn this around in Ukraines favour.

So my opinion of Starmer is weakening, it would increase if he were to start to bring about meaningful conversations that were intended to bring the war to an end. Until then he is throwing our tax money at a war that can't be won, not to mention the needles deaths that are going on day after day. "

So what happens if Putin says he wants all of Ukraine or the special opposition carry on, would you give the aggressor what he wants to stop the war.

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By *roadShoulderzMan
4 weeks ago

Petersfield


"I've been one of his critics but perhaps Sir Kier is growing into the job. I thought he had a good week with his increases to defence spending and successful trip to the US. Also impressed that he met Zelensky straight after his bashing from Trump.

Has your opinion of him changed at all recently?"

Perhaps rather than somewhat arrogantly suggesting Sir Keir (not Kier as you write) is growing into the job, I might arrogantly suggest perhaps it is you who is growing your understanding about what the role involves?

Yes a nasty comment about you, but many of us always felt Starmer would make the best PM of the choices available. Welcome to our world!

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By *otMe66Man
4 weeks ago

Terra Firma


"

The measure of Starmer should be in the results of the government domestically as a priority and internationally as a secondary.

Of course, but for example, those of us who remember Thatcher know that domestically she wasn’t doing too well at all. Her medicine wasn’t going down too well in the polls initially. Then the Argentinians invaded the Falklands.

That was a different set of circumstances though.

Here we have people applauding and cheering Starmer on because he appears to be continuing to support the military effort of Ukraine, which is the opposite direction to Trump and the US.

The war needs to end and Starmer along with Zelensky need to wake up to the fact that no amount of weaponry or money is going to turn this around in Ukraines favour.

So my opinion of Starmer is weakening, it would increase if he were to start to bring about meaningful conversations that were intended to bring the war to an end. Until then he is throwing our tax money at a war that can't be won, not to mention the needles deaths that are going on day after day.

So what happens if Putin says he wants all of Ukraine or the special opposition carry on, would you give the aggressor what he wants to stop the war. "

That is a different proposition to what is happening now or expected, so I would expect a different outcome.

It would be a good start to get a plan for now as a priority.

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By *uffleskloofMan
4 weeks ago

Walsall


"

The measure of Starmer should be in the results of the government domestically as a priority and internationally as a secondary.

Of course, but for example, those of us who remember Thatcher know that domestically she wasn’t doing too well at all. Her medicine wasn’t going down too well in the polls initially. Then the Argentinians invaded the Falklands.

That was a different set of circumstances though.

Here we have people applauding and cheering Starmer on because he appears to be continuing to support the military effort of Ukraine, which is the opposite direction to Trump and the US.

The war needs to end and Starmer along with Zelensky need to wake up to the fact that no amount of weaponry or money is going to turn this around in Ukraines favour.

So my opinion of Starmer is weakening, it would increase if he were to start to bring about meaningful conversations that were intended to bring the war to an end. Until then he is throwing our tax money at a war that can't be won, not to mention the needles deaths that are going on day after day.

So what happens if Putin says he wants all of Ukraine or the special opposition carry on, would you give the aggressor what he wants to stop the war. "

I’m sure fights break out all over the UK every Saturday night but I don’t feel it’s my responsibility to get involved in all of them.

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
4 weeks ago

Hastings


"

The measure of Starmer should be in the results of the government domestically as a priority and internationally as a secondary.

Of course, but for example, those of us who remember Thatcher know that domestically she wasn’t doing too well at all. Her medicine wasn’t going down too well in the polls initially. Then the Argentinians invaded the Falklands.

That was a different set of circumstances though.

Here we have people applauding and cheering Starmer on because he appears to be continuing to support the military effort of Ukraine, which is the opposite direction to Trump and the US.

The war needs to end and Starmer along with Zelensky need to wake up to the fact that no amount of weaponry or money is going to turn this around in Ukraines favour.

So my opinion of Starmer is weakening, it would increase if he were to start to bring about meaningful conversations that were intended to bring the war to an end. Until then he is throwing our tax money at a war that can't be won, not to mention the needles deaths that are going on day after day.

So what happens if Putin says he wants all of Ukraine or the special opposition carry on, would you give the aggressor what he wants to stop the war.

That is a different proposition to what is happening now or expected, so I would expect a different outcome.

It would be a good start to get a plan for now as a priority. "

Sow you think Putin will stick to the agreement with Trump even if the USA don't want anything to do with it.

I see it more as USA confirming Europe is now on its own with Russia. And what happens will happen.

But I guess as individuals there is not much we can do but watch from the side line.

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
4 weeks ago

Hastings


"

The measure of Starmer should be in the results of the government domestically as a priority and internationally as a secondary.

Of course, but for example, those of us who remember Thatcher know that domestically she wasn’t doing too well at all. Her medicine wasn’t going down too well in the polls initially. Then the Argentinians invaded the Falklands.

That was a different set of circumstances though.

Here we have people applauding and cheering Starmer on because he appears to be continuing to support the military effort of Ukraine, which is the opposite direction to Trump and the US.

The war needs to end and Starmer along with Zelensky need to wake up to the fact that no amount of weaponry or money is going to turn this around in Ukraines favour.

So my opinion of Starmer is weakening, it would increase if he were to start to bring about meaningful conversations that were intended to bring the war to an end. Until then he is throwing our tax money at a war that can't be won, not to mention the needles deaths that are going on day after day.

So what happens if Putin says he wants all of Ukraine or the special opposition carry on, would you give the aggressor what he wants to stop the war.

I’m sure fights break out all over the UK every Saturday night but I don’t feel it’s my responsibility to get involved in all of them."

So your happy to get involved in some of them.

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan
4 weeks ago

nearby

Any peace deal negotiated Putin will use to wipe his arse.

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
4 weeks ago

Hastings


"Any peace deal negotiated Putin will use to wipe his arse. "

So like me you think Putin dose not want long term peace. Maybe a brake to re group.

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By *uffleskloofMan
4 weeks ago

Walsall


"

The measure of Starmer should be in the results of the government domestically as a priority and internationally as a secondary.

Of course, but for example, those of us who remember Thatcher know that domestically she wasn’t doing too well at all. Her medicine wasn’t going down too well in the polls initially. Then the Argentinians invaded the Falklands.

That was a different set of circumstances though.

Here we have people applauding and cheering Starmer on because he appears to be continuing to support the military effort of Ukraine, which is the opposite direction to Trump and the US.

The war needs to end and Starmer along with Zelensky need to wake up to the fact that no amount of weaponry or money is going to turn this around in Ukraines favour.

So my opinion of Starmer is weakening, it would increase if he were to start to bring about meaningful conversations that were intended to bring the war to an end. Until then he is throwing our tax money at a war that can't be won, not to mention the needles deaths that are going on day after day.

So what happens if Putin says he wants all of Ukraine or the special opposition carry on, would you give the aggressor what he wants to stop the war.

I’m sure fights break out all over the UK every Saturday night but I don’t feel it’s my responsibility to get involved in all of them.

So your happy to get involved in some of them. "

Maybe if my next door neighbour was fighting in my garden I’d go and see what was happening and see if I could de-escalate the situation.

But I wouldn’t particularly bother travelling to Aberdeen to get involved.

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
4 weeks ago

Hastings


"

The measure of Starmer should be in the results of the government domestically as a priority and internationally as a secondary.

Of course, but for example, those of us who remember Thatcher know that domestically she wasn’t doing too well at all. Her medicine wasn’t going down too well in the polls initially. Then the Argentinians invaded the Falklands.

That was a different set of circumstances though.

Here we have people applauding and cheering Starmer on because he appears to be continuing to support the military effort of Ukraine, which is the opposite direction to Trump and the US.

The war needs to end and Starmer along with Zelensky need to wake up to the fact that no amount of weaponry or money is going to turn this around in Ukraines favour.

So my opinion of Starmer is weakening, it would increase if he were to start to bring about meaningful conversations that were intended to bring the war to an end. Until then he is throwing our tax money at a war that can't be won, not to mention the needles deaths that are going on day after day.

So what happens if Putin says he wants all of Ukraine or the special opposition carry on, would you give the aggressor what he wants to stop the war.

I’m sure fights break out all over the UK every Saturday night but I don’t feel it’s my responsibility to get involved in all of them.

So your happy to get involved in some of them.

Maybe if my next door neighbour was fighting in my garden I’d go and see what was happening and see if I could de-escalate the situation.

But I wouldn’t particularly bother travelling to Aberdeen to get involved."

Ukraine did not travel to Russia what would you do if the fight in you garden broke you front window.

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By *uffleskloofMan
4 weeks ago

Walsall


"

The measure of Starmer should be in the results of the government domestically as a priority and internationally as a secondary.

Of course, but for example, those of us who remember Thatcher know that domestically she wasn’t doing too well at all. Her medicine wasn’t going down too well in the polls initially. Then the Argentinians invaded the Falklands.

That was a different set of circumstances though.

Here we have people applauding and cheering Starmer on because he appears to be continuing to support the military effort of Ukraine, which is the opposite direction to Trump and the US.

The war needs to end and Starmer along with Zelensky need to wake up to the fact that no amount of weaponry or money is going to turn this around in Ukraines favour.

So my opinion of Starmer is weakening, it would increase if he were to start to bring about meaningful conversations that were intended to bring the war to an end. Until then he is throwing our tax money at a war that can't be won, not to mention the needles deaths that are going on day after day.

So what happens if Putin says he wants all of Ukraine or the special opposition carry on, would you give the aggressor what he wants to stop the war.

I’m sure fights break out all over the UK every Saturday night but I don’t feel it’s my responsibility to get involved in all of them.

So your happy to get involved in some of them.

Maybe if my next door neighbour was fighting in my garden I’d go and see what was happening and see if I could de-escalate the situation.

But I wouldn’t particularly bother travelling to Aberdeen to get involved.

Ukraine did not travel to Russia what would you do if the fight in you garden broke you front window."

I’d probably get all my mates to come round and then the guy who broke the window could get his mates to come around and we could have a big fight until a few people are dead over a broken window.

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
4 weeks ago

Hastings


"

The measure of Starmer should be in the results of the government domestically as a priority and internationally as a secondary.

Of course, but for example, those of us who remember Thatcher know that domestically she wasn’t doing too well at all. Her medicine wasn’t going down too well in the polls initially. Then the Argentinians invaded the Falklands.

That was a different set of circumstances though.

Here we have people applauding and cheering Starmer on because he appears to be continuing to support the military effort of Ukraine, which is the opposite direction to Trump and the US.

The war needs to end and Starmer along with Zelensky need to wake up to the fact that no amount of weaponry or money is going to turn this around in Ukraines favour.

So my opinion of Starmer is weakening, it would increase if he were to start to bring about meaningful conversations that were intended to bring the war to an end. Until then he is throwing our tax money at a war that can't be won, not to mention the needles deaths that are going on day after day.

So what happens if Putin says he wants all of Ukraine or the special opposition carry on, would you give the aggressor what he wants to stop the war.

I’m sure fights break out all over the UK every Saturday night but I don’t feel it’s my responsibility to get involved in all of them.

So your happy to get involved in some of them.

Maybe if my next door neighbour was fighting in my garden I’d go and see what was happening and see if I could de-escalate the situation.

But I wouldn’t particularly bother travelling to Aberdeen to get involved.

Ukraine did not travel to Russia what would you do if the fight in you garden broke you front window.

I’d probably get all my mates to come round and then the guy who broke the window could get his mates to come around and we could have a big fight until a few people are dead over a broken window."

Well if Putins mate is Kim Jon un and Trump Europe is done for.

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By *rDiscretionXXXMan
4 weeks ago

Gilfach


"Realy where is the UK’S gold mine."

There are several of them, not least Cononish in Scotland, and Clogau in Wales.

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By *hrill CollinsMan
4 weeks ago

The Outer Rim


"Realy where is the UK’S gold mine.

There are several of them, not least Cononish in Scotland, and Clogau in Wales."

clogau shut almost 30 years ago

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By *rDiscretionXXXMan
4 weeks ago

Gilfach


"Realy where is the UK’S gold mine."


"There are several of them, not least Cononish in Scotland, and Clogau in Wales."


"clogau shut almost 30 years ago"

And its owners have applied to re-open it, since there's still plenty of gold in there, and modern techniques make it easier to extract.

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By *ill69888Couple
4 weeks ago

cheltenham

I don’t get this Starmer love? He got rinsed by Trump, made to look very weak indeed. Vance ruined him about free speech. Trump and Vance made it pretty clear what they feel about Starmer

The Zelenskyy thing is a massive bluff. Just a PR stunt with little substance. Basically, without the backing of the US, Europe will struggle to achieve anything.

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
4 weeks ago

Hastings


"Realy where is the UK’S gold mine.

There are several of them, not least Cononish in Scotland, and Clogau in Wales."

Did not know that so how much do they produce 😳

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By *ottom charlieMan
4 weeks ago

Washington


"I've been one of his critics but perhaps Sir Kier is growing into the job. I thought he had a good week with his increases to defence spending and successful trip to the US. Also impressed that he met Zelensky straight after his bashing from Trump.

Has your opinion of him changed at all recently?"

YES he is an even bigger butt kisser than he was before he conned all of us to vote for him to get into power so he can kiss and lick even more high powered arses,,

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By *eroy1000Man
4 weeks ago

milton keynes


"I've been one of his critics but perhaps Sir Kier is growing into the job. I thought he had a good week with his increases to defence spending and successful trip to the US. Also impressed that he met Zelensky straight after his bashing from Trump.

Has your opinion of him changed at all recently?"

I think he has done ok with the difficult trump/ Ukraine situation. As our PM this is what I expect from him. We seem to have sunk so low that when the PM doesn't mess up, it's classed as a good day. Will he improve the situation in the UK or continue to allow our fake chancellor to drag the economy down, is more important in my view.

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By *hrill CollinsMan
4 weeks ago

The Outer Rim


"Realy where is the UK’S gold mine.

There are several of them, not least Cononish in Scotland, and Clogau in Wales.

clogau shut almost 30 years ago

And its owners have applied to re-open it, since there's still plenty of gold in there, and modern techniques make it easier to extract."

to be honest Alba have been struggling to make it viable and suffered numerous setbacks, so i would be surprised if it's a goer really. even their regurging of the historic waste tip has yielded only 3.2g per ton and totals less than 50g so far. then there's the battle they're fighting with the dewatering of level 4.5 & level 5, the lack of pressure for the drilling rig at those levels, along with the access road that keeps being washed away.

NRW aren't looking favourable at granting the licence or even extending the exploration licence when it runs out.

but never say never hey

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By *hrill CollinsMan
4 weeks ago

The Outer Rim


"I've been one of his critics but perhaps Sir Kier is growing into the job. I thought he had a good week with his increases to defence spending and successful trip to the US. Also impressed that he met Zelensky straight after his bashing from Trump.

Has your opinion of him changed at all recently?

I think he has done ok with the difficult trump/ Ukraine situation. As our PM this is what I expect from him. We seem to have sunk so low that when the PM doesn't mess up, it's classed as a good day. Will he improve the situation in the UK or continue to allow our fake chancellor to drag the economy down, is more important in my view. "

i'm pretty sure that the export finance agreement being banded about today will itself show up as an increase in GDP .... then that finance is to be spent on weapons procurement from the likes of thales etc which will further increase GDP ..... thales subcontracts to the likes of denis feranti etc which will push GDP up again.

we'll see i guess

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By *ellhungvweMan
4 weeks ago

Cheltenham


"I've been one of his critics but perhaps Sir Kier is growing into the job. I thought he had a good week with his increases to defence spending and successful trip to the US. Also impressed that he met Zelensky straight after his bashing from Trump.

Has your opinion of him changed at all recently?

I think he has done ok with the difficult trump/ Ukraine situation. As our PM this is what I expect from him. We seem to have sunk so low that when the PM doesn't mess up, it's classed as a good day. Will he improve the situation in the UK or continue to allow our fake chancellor to drag the economy down, is more important in my view.

i'm pretty sure that the export finance agreement being banded about today will itself show up as an increase in GDP .... then that finance is to be spent on weapons procurement from the likes of thales etc which will further increase GDP ..... thales subcontracts to the likes of denis feranti etc which will push GDP up again.

we'll see i guess

"

That’s exactly why it is being structured in the way it is. Ukraine is buying weapons from a factory in Northen Ireland - GDP gets pushed up.

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By *uffleskloofMan
4 weeks ago

Walsall


"I've been one of his critics but perhaps Sir Kier is growing into the job. I thought he had a good week with his increases to defence spending and successful trip to the US. Also impressed that he met Zelensky straight after his bashing from Trump.

Has your opinion of him changed at all recently?

I think he has done ok with the difficult trump/ Ukraine situation. As our PM this is what I expect from him. We seem to have sunk so low that when the PM doesn't mess up, it's classed as a good day. Will he improve the situation in the UK or continue to allow our fake chancellor to drag the economy down, is more important in my view.

i'm pretty sure that the export finance agreement being banded about today will itself show up as an increase in GDP .... then that finance is to be spent on weapons procurement from the likes of thales etc which will further increase GDP ..... thales subcontracts to the likes of denis feranti etc which will push GDP up again.

we'll see i guess

That’s exactly why it is being structured in the way it is. Ukraine is buying weapons from a factory in Northen Ireland - GDP gets pushed up. "

We give Ukraine £2 bn in aid, they then use it to buy some weapons from the UK.

Sounds like a massive Ponzi scheme.

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By *eoBlooms OP   Man
4 weeks ago

Springfield

I guess I'm in a minority.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
4 weeks ago

in Lancashire


"I guess I'm in a minority. "

Your own fault for being objective lol

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By *eoBlooms OP   Man
4 weeks ago

Springfield


"I guess I'm in a minority.

Your own fault for being objective lol"

Haha 😄

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By *arakiss12TV/TS
4 weeks ago

Bedford

No he's friends with everyone but the British people, he's even more friends with putin than the British people and supposedly hates putin.

He's only doing what he's supposed to do and he can't throw the people he's dealing with in jail if they oppose him.

He's verging on a dictator.

Blair mkII Americas lap dog. Once Blair started flying around the world he lost the British people he was happier doing world diplomacy and forgot his own country.

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By *eroy1000Man
4 weeks ago

milton keynes


"I've been one of his critics but perhaps Sir Kier is growing into the job. I thought he had a good week with his increases to defence spending and successful trip to the US. Also impressed that he met Zelensky straight after his bashing from Trump.

Has your opinion of him changed at all recently?

I think he has done ok with the difficult trump/ Ukraine situation. As our PM this is what I expect from him. We seem to have sunk so low that when the PM doesn't mess up, it's classed as a good day. Will he improve the situation in the UK or continue to allow our fake chancellor to drag the economy down, is more important in my view.

i'm pretty sure that the export finance agreement being banded about today will itself show up as an increase in GDP .... then that finance is to be spent on weapons procurement from the likes of thales etc which will further increase GDP ..... thales subcontracts to the likes of denis feranti etc which will push GDP up again.

we'll see i guess

"

At 1.6 billion it will barely register on the GDP figures and likely any gain will be more than wiped out by the budget measures that are soon to be implemented.

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By *uddy laneMan
4 weeks ago

dudley

A person learning on the job will always need mentoring. God help us

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By *hawn ScottMan
4 weeks ago

london Brixton

It's a very challenging time for him. What is he supposed to do that's in the countries best interests?

Can't fully side with trump but then can't lose him as an ally and want to avoid the trade tariffs that he is slapping on everyone else. Think he's doing the best he can do and looks to have aged about 5 years since being elected

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By *eoBlooms OP   Man
4 weeks ago

Springfield


"It's a very challenging time for him. What is he supposed to do that's in the countries best interests?

Can't fully side with trump but then can't lose him as an ally and want to avoid the trade tariffs that he is slapping on everyone else. Think he's doing the best he can do and looks to have aged about 5 years since being elected"

Very fair Shawn.

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By *hawn ScottMan
4 weeks ago

london Brixton

I think trumps plan is "maga" or to make the USA more or less a self sufficient "superpower" country.

Ar present most of the ion, lithium and other rare minerals used to make chips are found in China but with access to Ukraines they might not have to rely on them. China is cheaper to import due to labour costs and lack of unions etc for their workers. With the DOGE program he can cut costs and have american workers on lower pay with less rights.

With the tariffs he can make imports more expensive and encourage people to buy American.

Leaving nato means he will not have to get involved in any wars he doesn't have to but with one of the most powerful military in the world.

Great for some but not for the average American joe

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By *ill69888Couple
4 weeks ago

cheltenham

How is Starmer doing well? He seems to want to put British forces in potential harms way. The economy is imploding. Illegal immigration at an all time high. The NI hit on companies about to put many out of work. The NHS is even worse than ever and Cabinet ministers resigning or being sacked.

Yeah, great Job Sir Keith. 🙄

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By *arakiss12TV/TS
4 weeks ago

Bedford


"How is Starmer doing well? He seems to want to put British forces in potential harms way. The economy is imploding. Illegal immigration at an all time high. The NI hit on companies about to put many out of work. The NHS is even worse than ever and Cabinet ministers resigning or being sacked.

Yeah, great Job Sir Keith. 🙄"

I agree, he's a plank. Does anyone know who's advising him? Who are/is his Dominic Cummins?

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By *eoBlooms OP   Man
4 weeks ago

Springfield

Interesting to see Labour rise in the latest opinion polls.

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By *ulie.your. bottom. slutTV/TS
4 weeks ago

Glasgow


"I think trumps plan is "maga" or to make the USA more or less a self sufficient "superpower" country.

Ar present most of the ion, lithium and other rare minerals used to make chips are found in China but with access to Ukraines they might not have to rely on them. China is cheaper to import due to labour costs and lack of unions etc for their workers. With the DOGE program he can cut costs and have american workers on lower pay with less rights.

With the tariffs he can make imports more expensive and encourage people to buy American.

Leaving nato means he will not have to get involved in any wars he doesn't have to but with one of the most powerful military in the world.

Great for some but not for the average American joe

"

According to some, this Ukraine reserves of rare Minerals is a embellishments of previous geology reports.

Google rare minerals and Ukraine doesn't even enter the charts compared to other countries. I mean the US has its own reserves much larger than other countries.

People have compared these reports to the ones about Afghanistan having some of the largest reserves of gems and lithium on the planet. Once the Americans pulled out, the Chinese went in and found it was bs and hardly anything about it has been mentioned since.

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By *rDiscretionXXXMan
4 weeks ago

Gilfach


"According to some, this Ukraine reserves of rare Minerals is a embellishments of previous geology reports.

Google rare minerals and Ukraine doesn't even enter the charts compared to other countries. I mean the US has its own reserves much larger than other countries.

People have compared these reports to the ones about Afghanistan having some of the largest reserves of gems and lithium on the planet. Once the Americans pulled out, the Chinese went in and found it was bs and hardly anything about it has been mentioned since."

It's a wild embellishment. Rare Earth minerals are not at all rare, they're all over the place. The problem is finding them in a sufficient concentration that it's worth digging them up. Ukraine doesn't have any such such concentrations. If it did, they'd have started digging then up 15 years ago, when the world realised that China was attempting to control supply.

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By *reddiefunMan
4 weeks ago

Mold

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By *mateur100Man
4 weeks ago

nr faversham


"I've been one of his critics but perhaps Sir Kier is growing into the job. I thought he had a good week with his increases to defence spending and successful trip to the US. Also impressed that he met Zelensky straight after his bashing from Trump.

Has your opinion of him changed at all recently?"

Mine has!I think he's behaving in a very statesman like manner and doing a good job if it. I don't agree with most of the govt policies but I think he's doing ok on this issue

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By *eoBlooms OP   Man
4 weeks ago

Springfield


"I've been one of his critics but perhaps Sir Kier is growing into the job. I thought he had a good week with his increases to defence spending and successful trip to the US. Also impressed that he met Zelensky straight after his bashing from Trump.

Has your opinion of him changed at all recently?

Mine has!I think he's behaving in a very statesman like manner and doing a good job if it. I don't agree with most of the govt policies but I think he's doing ok on this issue "

Agree, although Trump doing his best to undermine him.

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By *melie LALWoman
4 weeks ago

Peterborough


"Are people really going to judge the government on how Starmer supports Zelensky over Trump?

There is short sighted and this...

I see the support as no different to how the tories got support during covid, or at least the first two waves and ppe scandal aside.

The measure of Starmer should be in the results of the government domestically as a priority and internationally as a secondary."

I'm trying to point out you can support the government doing something even if you oppose their political leaning

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By *eoBlooms OP   Man
4 weeks ago

Springfield


"Are people really going to judge the government on how Starmer supports Zelensky over Trump?

There is short sighted and this...

I see the support as no different to how the tories got support during covid, or at least the first two waves and ppe scandal aside.

The measure of Starmer should be in the results of the government domestically as a priority and internationally as a secondary.

I'm trying to point out you can support the government doing something even if you oppose their political leaning "

Yes

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By *melie LALWoman
4 weeks ago

Peterborough


"I don’t get this Starmer love? He got rinsed by Trump, made to look very weak indeed. Vance ruined him about free speech. Trump and Vance made it pretty clear what they feel about Starmer

The Zelenskyy thing is a massive bluff. Just a PR stunt with little substance. Basically, without the backing of the US, Europe will struggle to achieve anything. "

I doubt Starmer will be upset by your personal view. People who know Trump will have advised him to feed tango man's ego.

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By *melie LALWoman
4 weeks ago

Peterborough


"No he's friends with everyone but the British people, he's even more friends with putin than the British people and supposedly hates putin.

He's only doing what he's supposed to do and he can't throw the people he's dealing with in jail if they oppose him.

He's verging on a dictator.

Blair mkII Americas lap dog. Once Blair started flying around the world he lost the British people he was happier doing world diplomacy and forgot his own country.

"

A little contradictory crap I've just read. Dictator and doing what he's supposed to do are in opposition of each other.

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By *melie LALWoman
4 weeks ago

Peterborough


"I've been one of his critics but perhaps Sir Kier is growing into the job. I thought he had a good week with his increases to defence spending and successful trip to the US. Also impressed that he met Zelensky straight after his bashing from Trump.

Has your opinion of him changed at all recently?

Mine has!I think he's behaving in a very statesman like manner and doing a good job if it. I don't agree with most of the govt policies but I think he's doing ok on this issue "

Woohoo someone else who can separate issues from their own political leaning. It's rare on here.

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By *melie LALWoman
4 weeks ago

Peterborough


"I've been one of his critics but perhaps Sir Kier is growing into the job. I thought he had a good week with his increases to defence spending and successful trip to the US. Also impressed that he met Zelensky straight after his bashing from Trump.

Has your opinion of him changed at all recently?

Mine has!I think he's behaving in a very statesman like manner and doing a good job if it. I don't agree with most of the govt policies but I think he's doing ok on this issue

Agree, although Trump doing his best to undermine him."

Only so his own shine is not out shone . We all "know" the end of the war will be Trump's doing

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3 weeks ago

The Ukraine situation has saved starmer for the time being, while the UK goes tits up elsewhere

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By *oalie66Man
3 weeks ago

Chesterfield

Makes me piss that he's trying to protect Ukrainian's border when ours is being breached on a daily basis.

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By *cdc500Man
3 weeks ago

Omagh

Starmer is hoping to get us into WW3 as that is the only thing that will keep him in power here in the UK. They prob have the conscription lists for the front line made. Those protesting in London etc will be the first. Handy way for our dictator Starmer to get rid of those here willing to stand up against him. leaving more homes for the illegals coming on boats. Bet none of them would be sent to a war that would be against their rights.

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By *melie LALWoman
3 weeks ago

Peterborough


"Makes me piss that he's trying to protect Ukrainian's border when ours is being breached on a daily basis."

Actually there's a pathway between brain and bladder that makes you piss.

You're welcome

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By *melie LALWoman
3 weeks ago

Peterborough


"The Ukraine situation has saved starmer for the time being, while the UK goes tits up elsewhere "

Sounds a bit like Thatcher and the Falklands reading your post.

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By *melie LALWoman
3 weeks ago

Peterborough


"Starmer is hoping to get us into WW3 as that is the only thing that will keep him in power here in the UK. They prob have the conscription lists for the front line made. Those protesting in London etc will be the first. Handy way for our dictator Starmer to get rid of those here willing to stand up against him. leaving more homes for the illegals coming on boats. Bet none of them would be sent to a war that would be against their rights."

Bless

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By *oalie66Man
3 weeks ago

Chesterfield


"Makes me piss that he's trying to protect Ukrainian's border when ours is being breached on a daily basis.

Actually there's a pathway between brain and bladder that makes you piss.

You're welcome "

No thanks.

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan
3 weeks ago

nearby


"Makes me piss that he's trying to protect Ukrainian's border when ours is being breached on a daily basis."

The uk is a signatory to the 1994 Budapest agreement. Which gives Ukraine security in exchange for non proliferation of nuclear weapons. At the end of the cold war Ukraine had a third of the nuclear weapons on the globe

Ukraine upheld their part of the agreement.

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By *oalie66Man
3 weeks ago

Chesterfield

That's all well and good but what use is it if we can't protect our own citizens at the first line of defence,our own borders?

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan
3 weeks ago

nearby


"That's all well and good but what use is it if we can't protect our own citizens at the first line of defence,our own borders?"

1700 arrived on 34 small boats in the last week but they did not bring or threaten nuclear weapons

Ukraine has defended an 1100 mile border against a 200,000 man invading army, the uk seems inadequate in holding back peaceful small boats on 350 miles of Kent coastline.

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By *oalie66Man
3 weeks ago

Chesterfield

They may not bring nuclear weapons but some are a risk to our citizens,can't we protect both Ukraine's borders and ours or is it too much to ask to keep our people safe?

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By *atonMan
3 weeks ago

barnet


"I've been one of his critics but perhaps Sir Kier is growing into the job. I thought he had a good week with his increases to defence spending and successful trip to the US. Also impressed that he met Zelensky straight after his bashing from Trump.So extra expenditure on arms and munitions and brown nosing the convicted felon and genocide enablers arse is a good week?

Has your opinion of him changed at all recently?"

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By *ggdrasil66Man
3 weeks ago

Saltdean

Is Starmer improving? Nah, he is still a twat.

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By *oalie66Man
3 weeks ago

Chesterfield

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By *assy LassieWoman
3 weeks ago

Lanarkshire


"Makes me piss that he's trying to protect Ukrainian's border when ours is being breached on a daily basis."

Who is launching missiles at our borders. Must have missed that on the news🤷‍♀️

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By *ert999400Man
3 weeks ago

Glasgow/Edinburgh/Cardiff


"He’s a useless clown"

I agree , just wait until the shake up of the benifit system happens. The forthcoming by election will be a good indication if Labour are good.

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By *azzler2Man
3 weeks ago

halifax

Is starmer improving NO is labour improving NO

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By *ggdrasil66Man
3 weeks ago

Saltdean

His targeted demographic, leftist and left leaning liberals are attempting to paint him as an all of a sudden popular politician. I remember the same thing happening with Corbyn. It’s like, who cares? LibLabCon will no doubt believe that their own shit don’t stink, and that nobody else stands a cat in hell’s chance. They will find out how wrong they are in 2028,

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By *oalie66Man
3 weeks ago

Chesterfield


"Makes me piss that he's trying to protect Ukrainian's border when ours is being breached on a daily basis.

Who is launching missiles at our borders. Must have missed that on the news🤷‍♀️"

Didn't say we were having missiles launched at our border did I,you know full well what I meant by being breached.

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By *assy LassieWoman
3 weeks ago

Lanarkshire


"Makes me piss that he's trying to protect Ukrainian's border when ours is being breached on a daily basis.

Who is launching missiles at our borders. Must have missed that on the news🤷‍♀️

Didn't say we were having missiles launched at our border did I,you know full well what I meant by being breached."

Not really a comparison then is it🤷‍♀️

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By *oalie66Man
3 weeks ago

Chesterfield

Errr yes it is.

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By *uffleskloofMan
3 weeks ago

Walsall

The latest three polls suggest that Labour is stationary or falling back.

It looks like even the Ukraine sabre rattling hasn’t manage to move the dial for Starmer. It turns out he isn’t another Churchill, he really is just an incompetent middle manager.

Maybe people in the UK aren’t quite so desperate to get to the Eastern Front after all.

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By *2000ManMan
3 weeks ago

Worthing

That increase in defence spending is not protecting our borders.

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By *reddiefunMan
2 weeks ago

Mold

Starmer only got in because the opposition vote was split by Reform. He actually got less votes than Corbyn at the last election. However now he's in he's gone back on pretty well every promise. He and his incompetent cabinet are destroying small and medium businesses, destroying our food security, encouraging the wrong migrants in and making the working people of this country poorer. He will return Farage's favour by giving him the keys to no 10 in 4 years time, assuming this inept government survives that long. He's also going to make Labour unelectable for a very long time.

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By *ornLordMan
7 days ago

Wiltshire and London


"He's also going to make Labour unelectable for a very long time. "

I agree with this, if not all of your post. The only way Labour are going to be electable next time around is if there is some kind of coup and they ditch Starmer, Reeves and their associates. That ain't gonna happen.

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By *apt peteMan
4 days ago

Peterborough

No. Guy's a twat period.

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