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By (user no longer on site) OP   
9 weeks ago

Anyone watching this?

I've seen the jimmy carter on Israel and wanted to see the "middle east: 50 years of war " filmed in 1998 but missed that one

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
9 weeks ago

in Lancashire

Will catch it on the channel later..

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By *ortyairCouple
9 weeks ago

Wallasey

Interesting documentary,

Mrs x

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By *illedbydeathCouple
9 weeks ago

dorset

Long live Israel

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By *ortyairCouple
9 weeks ago

Wallasey

That quote about the Palestinians never missing an opportunity to miss an opportunity seems accurate after watching this,

Mrs x

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By *melie LALWoman
9 weeks ago

arsehole


"Anyone watching this?

I've seen the jimmy carter on Israel and wanted to see the "middle east: 50 years of war " filmed in 1998 but missed that one"

The one on bbc iPlayer?

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By *ortyairCouple
9 weeks ago

Wallasey


"Anyone watching this?

I've seen the jimmy carter on Israel and wanted to see the "middle east: 50 years of war " filmed in 1998 but missed that one

The one on bbc iPlayer?"

Yeah it's three episodes long,

Mrs x

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
9 weeks ago

The foundations of the conflict as a whole covering Israel's actions only confirms what others and I have said all along

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By *ortyairCouple
9 weeks ago

Wallasey


"The foundations of the conflict as a whole covering Israel's actions only confirms what others and I have said all along "
Haha, you obviously didn't watch it or you've totally misunderstood it haha,

Mrs x

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
9 weeks ago


"The foundations of the conflict as a whole covering Israel's actions only confirms what others and I have said all along Haha, you obviously didn't watch it or you've totally misunderstood it haha,

Mrs x"

Oh I'm sorry but I cannot read this garbled post

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By *ortyairCouple
9 weeks ago

Wallasey


"The foundations of the conflict as a whole covering Israel's actions only confirms what others and I have said all along Haha, you obviously didn't watch it or you've totally misunderstood it haha,

Mrs x

Oh I'm sorry but I cannot read this garbled post "

Not surprised haha, Mrs x

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
9 weeks ago


"The foundations of the conflict as a whole covering Israel's actions only confirms what others and I have said all along Haha, you obviously didn't watch it or you've totally misunderstood it haha,

Mrs x

Oh I'm sorry but I cannot read this garbled post Not surprised haha, Mrs x"

I'll watch part two when I can

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
9 weeks ago

Netenyahu still looks like "the hood" from the Thunderbirds which is distracting but I'll not let it influence me

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By *end1Man
8 weeks ago

southend on sea

Israel continues to break the ceasefire deal not one single mobile home has been let into Gaza and now Netanyahu has stopped aid medical supplies and food from entering Gaza.

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By *regoniansCouple
8 weeks ago

Oundle


"Israel continues to break the ceasefire deal not one single mobile home has been let into Gaza and now Netanyahu has stopped aid medical supplies and food from entering Gaza."

Funny how the Gaza/Egypt border (the Rafah crossing) never gets a mention. That border is rigorously enforced by the Egyptians for one simple reason, and that is that Hamas is closely allied to the Muslim Brotherhood.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
8 weeks ago


"Israel continues to break the ceasefire deal not one single mobile home has been let into Gaza and now Netanyahu has stopped aid medical supplies and food from entering Gaza."

Routine war crimes by Israel and no western countries condemn it. Typical!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
8 weeks ago


"Israel continues to break the ceasefire deal not one single mobile home has been let into Gaza and now Netanyahu has stopped aid medical supplies and food from entering Gaza.

Funny how the Gaza/Egypt border (the Rafah crossing) never gets a mention. That border is rigorously enforced by the Egyptians for one simple reason, and that is that Hamas is closely allied to the Muslim Brotherhood."

Does that excuse war crimes? Rhe deliberate starving and denying aid to civilians?

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By *regoniansCouple
8 weeks ago

Oundle


"Israel continues to break the ceasefire deal not one single mobile home has been let into Gaza and now Netanyahu has stopped aid medical supplies and food from entering Gaza.

Funny how the Gaza/Egypt border (the Rafah crossing) never gets a mention. That border is rigorously enforced by the Egyptians for one simple reason, and that is that Hamas is closely allied to the Muslim Brotherhood.

Does that excuse war crimes? Rhe deliberate starving and denying aid to civilians?"

You are living the Hamas lie.

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By *end1Man
8 weeks ago

southend on sea


"Israel continues to break the ceasefire deal not one single mobile home has been let into Gaza and now Netanyahu has stopped aid medical supplies and food from entering Gaza.

Funny how the Gaza/Egypt border (the Rafah crossing) never gets a mention. That border is rigorously enforced by the Egyptians for one simple reason, and that is that Hamas is closely allied to the Muslim Brotherhood.

Does that excuse war crimes? Rhe deliberate starving and denying aid to civilians?

You are living the Hamas lie."

hamas don't have control of the west bank! And when you have Jewish journalists who have a better insight into what Netanyahu is doing and they state that its following the same path as Gaza to force out Palestinians.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
8 weeks ago


"Israel continues to break the ceasefire deal not one single mobile home has been let into Gaza and now Netanyahu has stopped aid medical supplies and food from entering Gaza.

Funny how the Gaza/Egypt border (the Rafah crossing) never gets a mention. That border is rigorously enforced by the Egyptians for one simple reason, and that is that Hamas is closely allied to the Muslim Brotherhood.

Does that excuse war crimes? Rhe deliberate starving and denying aid to civilians?

You are living the Hamas lie."

Nope, I'm living the reality as reported on international news.

I take it you support the war crimes against children , the ill and other innocents who've been held hostage by israel

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By *ortyairCouple
8 weeks ago

Wallasey


"Israel continues to break the ceasefire deal not one single mobile home has been let into Gaza and now Netanyahu has stopped aid medical supplies and food from entering Gaza.

Funny how the Gaza/Egypt border (the Rafah crossing) never gets a mention. That border is rigorously enforced by the Egyptians for one simple reason, and that is that Hamas is closely allied to the Muslim Brotherhood.

Does that excuse war crimes? Rhe deliberate starving and denying aid to civilians?

You are living the Hamas lie.

Nope, I'm living the reality as reported on international news.

I take it you support the war crimes against children , the ill and other innocents who've been held hostage by israel

"

So you've not seen the documentary have you haha?

Mrs x

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
8 weeks ago


"Israel continues to break the ceasefire deal not one single mobile home has been let into Gaza and now Netanyahu has stopped aid medical supplies and food from entering Gaza.

Funny how the Gaza/Egypt border (the Rafah crossing) never gets a mention. That border is rigorously enforced by the Egyptians for one simple reason, and that is that Hamas is closely allied to the Muslim Brotherhood.

Does that excuse war crimes? Rhe deliberate starving and denying aid to civilians?

You are living the Hamas lie.

Nope, I'm living the reality as reported on international news.

I take it you support the war crimes against children , the ill and other innocents who've been held hostage by israel

So you've not seen the documentary have you haha?

Mrs x"

Not had the chance to see part two yet, but I'm sure you're going to lecture.

The post I'm referring to is netenyahu (aka the hood from Thunderbirds with the sneaky swivelling eyes) has decided to collectively punish [all] of the Palestinians because not only is he a little shit, committing [more] war crimes in full view of the world it's he's rengaged on phase 2 of the ceasefire

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By *ortyairCouple
8 weeks ago

Wallasey


"Israel continues to break the ceasefire deal not one single mobile home has been let into Gaza and now Netanyahu has stopped aid medical supplies and food from entering Gaza.

Funny how the Gaza/Egypt border (the Rafah crossing) never gets a mention. That border is rigorously enforced by the Egyptians for one simple reason, and that is that Hamas is closely allied to the Muslim Brotherhood.

Does that excuse war crimes? Rhe deliberate starving and denying aid to civilians?

You are living the Hamas lie.

Nope, I'm living the reality as reported on international news.

I take it you support the war crimes against children , the ill and other innocents who've been held hostage by israel

So you've not seen the documentary have you haha?

Mrs x

Not had the chance to see part two yet, but I'm sure you're going to lecture.

The post I'm referring to is netenyahu (aka the hood from Thunderbirds with the sneaky swivelling eyes) has decided to collectively punish [all] of the Palestinians because not only is he a little shit, committing [more] war crimes in full view of the world it's he's rengaged on phase 2 of the ceasefire

"

Not true though is it. He's stopped all traffic in to Gaza due to Hamas not sticking to the agreement,

Mrs x

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
8 weeks ago


"Israel continues to break the ceasefire deal not one single mobile home has been let into Gaza and now Netanyahu has stopped aid medical supplies and food from entering Gaza.

Funny how the Gaza/Egypt border (the Rafah crossing) never gets a mention. That border is rigorously enforced by the Egyptians for one simple reason, and that is that Hamas is closely allied to the Muslim Brotherhood.

Does that excuse war crimes? Rhe deliberate starving and denying aid to civilians?

You are living the Hamas lie.

Nope, I'm living the reality as reported on international news.

I take it you support the war crimes against children , the ill and other innocents who've been held hostage by israel

So you've not seen the documentary have you haha?

Mrs x

Not had the chance to see part two yet, but I'm sure you're going to lecture.

The post I'm referring to is netenyahu (aka the hood from Thunderbirds with the sneaky swivelling eyes) has decided to collectively punish [all] of the Palestinians because not only is he a little shit, committing [more] war crimes in full view of the world it's he's rengaged on phase 2 of the ceasefire

Not true though is it. He's stopped all traffic in to Gaza due to Hamas not sticking to the agreement,

Mrs x"

It is still a war crime to withhold aid to civilians, regardless of "deals" etc.

He could have stopped hostage exchanges instead, but he's never wanted to go through with the ceasefire

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By *ortyairCouple
8 weeks ago

Wallasey


"Israel continues to break the ceasefire deal not one single mobile home has been let into Gaza and now Netanyahu has stopped aid medical supplies and food from entering Gaza.

Funny how the Gaza/Egypt border (the Rafah crossing) never gets a mention. That border is rigorously enforced by the Egyptians for one simple reason, and that is that Hamas is closely allied to the Muslim Brotherhood.

Does that excuse war crimes? Rhe deliberate starving and denying aid to civilians?

You are living the Hamas lie.

Nope, I'm living the reality as reported on international news.

I take it you support the war crimes against children , the ill and other innocents who've been held hostage by israel

So you've not seen the documentary have you haha?

Mrs x

Not had the chance to see part two yet, but I'm sure you're going to lecture.

The post I'm referring to is netenyahu (aka the hood from Thunderbirds with the sneaky swivelling eyes) has decided to collectively punish [all] of the Palestinians because not only is he a little shit, committing [more] war crimes in full view of the world it's he's rengaged on phase 2 of the ceasefire

Not true though is it. He's stopped all traffic in to Gaza due to Hamas not sticking to the agreement,

Mrs x

It is still a war crime to withhold aid to civilians, regardless of "deals" etc.

He could have stopped hostage exchanges instead, but he's never wanted to go through with the ceasefire "

No thoughts on Hamas war crimes as per usual i see,

Mrs x

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
8 weeks ago


"Israel continues to break the ceasefire deal not one single mobile home has been let into Gaza and now Netanyahu has stopped aid medical supplies and food from entering Gaza.

Funny how the Gaza/Egypt border (the Rafah crossing) never gets a mention. That border is rigorously enforced by the Egyptians for one simple reason, and that is that Hamas is closely allied to the Muslim Brotherhood.

Does that excuse war crimes? Rhe deliberate starving and denying aid to civilians?

You are living the Hamas lie.

Nope, I'm living the reality as reported on international news.

I take it you support the war crimes against children , the ill and other innocents who've been held hostage by israel

So you've not seen the documentary have you haha?

Mrs x

Not had the chance to see part two yet, but I'm sure you're going to lecture.

The post I'm referring to is netenyahu (aka the hood from Thunderbirds with the sneaky swivelling eyes) has decided to collectively punish [all] of the Palestinians because not only is he a little shit, committing [more] war crimes in full view of the world it's he's rengaged on phase 2 of the ceasefire

Not true though is it. He's stopped all traffic in to Gaza due to Hamas not sticking to the agreement,

Mrs x

It is still a war crime to withhold aid to civilians, regardless of "deals" etc.

He could have stopped hostage exchanges instead, but he's never wanted to go through with the ceasefire No thoughts on Hamas war crimes as per usual i see,

Mrs x"

On the contrary. Hams committed war crimes to and I supported th ICC and ICJ on the leaders and lso any evidence videoed on 7 October to identify the individuals where possible.

Consistency of international law is the only real ay forward.

No one's complaining about Putin's arrest warrant and for good reason, like sinwar had an arrest warrant.

I'd be happy to see Putin, netenyahu and sinwar (if he wasn't assisinsted) sharing a prison cell together.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
8 weeks ago

Hamas commited war crimes through hostage taking too btw

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By *ortyairCouple
8 weeks ago

Wallasey

Go and watch the other two parts of tge documentary, they may open your eyes a little, Mrs x

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
8 weeks ago


"Go and watch the other two parts of tge documentary, they may open your eyes a little, Mrs x"
.

I suggest you watch

"high noon" starring Garry cooper.

Gary Cooper is the ICC and the baddies like Lee van cleefe are the likes of netenyahu, Putin etc..

I support Gary cooper because he's upholding the law regardless of personal greviences others have.

Your like the bar tender who bases law on grudges or circumstances.

I'm like grace kelly (minus the frock) sticking up for Gary Cooper (the ICC)

All the other townsfolk are sheep that keep their heads down like the leaders of the world, waiting to see who wins the gunfight.

Gary cooper wins the day and throws his tin star in the dirt. But I hope the ICC goes on.

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By *ortyairCouple
8 weeks ago

Wallasey

Not sure what you think it have against the ICC, pretty strange if I'm honest.

You started this thread about the BBC documentary yet you haven't watched it yourself...have a look you might learn something,

Mrs x

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By *end1Man
8 weeks ago

southend on sea


"Israel continues to break the ceasefire deal not one single mobile home has been let into Gaza and now Netanyahu has stopped aid medical supplies and food from entering Gaza.

Funny how the Gaza/Egypt border (the Rafah crossing) never gets a mention. That border is rigorously enforced by the Egyptians for one simple reason, and that is that Hamas is closely allied to the Muslim Brotherhood.

Does that excuse war crimes? Rhe deliberate starving and denying aid to civilians?

You are living the Hamas lie.

Nope, I'm living the reality as reported on international news.

I take it you support the war crimes against children , the ill and other innocents who've been held hostage by israel

So you've not seen the documentary have you haha?

Mrs x

Not had the chance to see part two yet, but I'm sure you're going to lecture.

The post I'm referring to is netenyahu (aka the hood from Thunderbirds with the sneaky swivelling eyes) has decided to collectively punish [all] of the Palestinians because not only is he a little shit, committing [more] war crimes in full view of the world it's he's rengaged on phase 2 of the ceasefire

Not true though is it. He's stopped all traffic in to Gaza due to Hamas not sticking to the agreement,

Mrs x"

Netanyahu wants to extend the first phase so hamas give all hostages back to weaken the hand of hamas. Netanyahu doesn't want a ceasefire under the agreement Israel was ment to let 60.000 mobile homes into Gaza yet not one has been allowed in! Also the video of a 10 year old boy shot by the IDF then stopping him getting help he died the next day! But no doubt your view him as a hamas terrorist.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
8 weeks ago


"Not sure what you think it have against the ICC, pretty strange if I'm honest.

You started this thread about the BBC documentary yet you haven't watched it yourself...have a look you might learn something,

Mrs x"

Just got home from work.

The UN has stated that withholding humanitarian aid is against international law and also breaking the ceasefire deal.

So not just me saying it. You could email your grievance to the UN if you like

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
8 weeks ago


"Israel continues to break the ceasefire deal not one single mobile home has been let into Gaza and now Netanyahu has stopped aid medical supplies and food from entering Gaza.

Funny how the Gaza/Egypt border (the Rafah crossing) never gets a mention. That border is rigorously enforced by the Egyptians for one simple reason, and that is that Hamas is closely allied to the Muslim Brotherhood.

Does that excuse war crimes? Rhe deliberate starving and denying aid to civilians?

You are living the Hamas lie.

Nope, I'm living the reality as reported on international news.

I take it you support the war crimes against children , the ill and other innocents who've been held hostage by israel

So you've not seen the documentary have you haha?

Mrs x

Not had the chance to see part two yet, but I'm sure you're going to lecture.

The post I'm referring to is netenyahu (aka the hood from Thunderbirds with the sneaky swivelling eyes) has decided to collectively punish [all] of the Palestinians because not only is he a little shit, committing [more] war crimes in full view of the world it's he's rengaged on phase 2 of the ceasefire

Not true though is it. He's stopped all traffic in to Gaza due to Hamas not sticking to the agreement,

Mrs x Netanyahu wants to extend the first phase so hamas give all hostages back to weaken the hand of hamas. Netanyahu doesn't want a ceasefire under the agreement Israel was ment to let 60.000 mobile homes into Gaza yet not one has been allowed in! Also the video of a 10 year old boy shot by the IDF then stopping him getting help he died the next day! But no doubt your view him as a hamas terrorist. "

Awful news and a clear example of what's going on there. Netenyahu is clearly a war criminal along with the IDF

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By *end1Man
8 weeks ago

southend on sea

Same as today reported that the IDF has destroyed a farm and forced the family out in the occupied west bank! Meanwhile the settlers are continuing to attack Palestinians and burn property and yet not one single investigation by the IDF or Netanyahu's government yet another blatant attempt to cleanse the Palestinians.

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By *uevalMan
8 weeks ago

Everywhere


"Israel continues to break the ceasefire deal not one single mobile home has been let into Gaza and now Netanyahu has stopped aid medical supplies and food from entering Gaza.

Funny how the Gaza/Egypt border (the Rafah crossing) never gets a mention. That border is rigorously enforced by the Egyptians for one simple reason, and that is that Hamas is closely allied to the Muslim Brotherhood."

The issue is if they open the borders and Palestinians leave through Egypt Israel will do their utmost to stop them from ever returning. There is so much going on over there and so much misinformation. If you stop and think about it you have israeli Jews with ginger hair and so white it would make a necrophiliac twitch claiming to be direct descendants of the land! Any other place in that region with indigneous white gingers?

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple
8 weeks ago

Border of London


"...settlers are continuing to attack Palestinians and burn property and yet not one single investigation by the IDF or Netanyahu's government..."

Have no Israelis been arrested, charged or sentenced for these crimes? Not one?

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple
8 weeks ago

Border of London


"Israel continues to break the ceasefire deal not one single mobile home has been let into Gaza and now Netanyahu has stopped aid medical supplies and food from entering Gaza.

Funny how the Gaza/Egypt border (the Rafah crossing) never gets a mention. That border is rigorously enforced by the Egyptians for one simple reason, and that is that Hamas is closely allied to the Muslim Brotherhood.

The issue is if they open the borders and Palestinians leave through Egypt Israel will do their utmost to stop them from ever returning. There is so much going on over there and so much misinformation. If you stop and think about it you have israeli Jews with ginger hair and so white it would make a necrophiliac twitch claiming to be direct descendants of the land! Any other place in that region with indigneous white gingers? "

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahed_Tamimi

It's not so simple. You must surely know that.

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By *end1Man
8 weeks ago

southend on sea


"...settlers are continuing to attack Palestinians and burn property and yet not one single investigation by the IDF or Netanyahu's government...

Have no Israelis been arrested, charged or sentenced for these crimes? Not one?"

in alot of cases the IDF are literally close by but turn a blind eye!

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By *resesse_MelioremCouple
8 weeks ago

Border of London


"...settlers are continuing to attack Palestinians and burn property and yet not one single investigation by the IDF or Netanyahu's government...

Have no Israelis been arrested, charged or sentenced for these crimes? Not one? in alot of cases the IDF are literally close by but turn a blind eye! "

But there have been some arrests, investigations, convictions and sentences, right?

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By *end1Man
8 weeks ago

southend on sea


"...settlers are continuing to attack Palestinians and burn property and yet not one single investigation by the IDF or Netanyahu's government...

Have no Israelis been arrested, charged or sentenced for these crimes? Not one? in alot of cases the IDF are literally close by but turn a blind eye!

But there have been some arrests, investigations, convictions and sentences, right?"

not been able to find much evidence as Israel tend to publish much tho one case a soldier was convicted but apparently he was released not long after.

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By *end1Man
8 weeks ago

southend on sea


"Not sure what you think it have against the ICC, pretty strange if I'm honest.

You started this thread about the BBC documentary yet you haven't watched it yourself...have a look you might learn something,

Mrs x

Just got home from work.

The UN has stated that withholding humanitarian aid is against international law and also breaking the ceasefire deal.

So not just me saying it. You could email your grievance to the UN if you like "

been reported 90 percent of the jenin refugee camp has been forcibly displaced now!

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By *wosmilersCouple
8 weeks ago

Heathrowish


"Israel continues to break the ceasefire deal not one single mobile home has been let into Gaza and now Netanyahu has stopped aid medical supplies and food from entering Gaza.

Funny how the Gaza/Egypt border (the Rafah crossing) never gets a mention. That border is rigorously enforced by the Egyptians for one simple reason, and that is that Hamas is closely allied to the Muslim Brotherhood.

The issue is if they open the borders and Palestinians leave through Egypt Israel will do their utmost to stop them from ever returning. There is so much going on over there and so much misinformation. If you stop and think about it you have israeli Jews with ginger hair and so white it would make a necrophiliac twitch claiming to be direct descendants of the land! Any other place in that region with indigneous white gingers? "

Funny how racism tends to radiate from this issue.

If we were to apply the same logic to Northern Europe, what would you do with non white citizens?

Or alternatively, please clarify your point bearinginmindthat your assessment does not represent the face of the average Israeli.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
8 weeks ago

Just finished watching the documentary "Israel and the Palestinians road to 7th October. Part 2 of 3.

My conclusion is Israel (netenyahu's) a scheming criminal that's theiving land bit by bit and also through dirty tricks they manipulated the USA.

It's results being that Israel created Hamas through oppression outright belligerence and illegal invasion.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
8 weeks ago

I'd go as far to say that netenyahu is using Hamas as an excuse to continue the persecution of Palestinians

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By *end1Man
8 weeks ago

southend on sea


"I'd go as far to say that netenyahu is using Hamas as an excuse to continue the persecution of Palestinians "
when you consider hamas don't control the occupied west bank and the fact Netanyahu and his cronies do nothing to stop the settler attacks on Palestinians yet continue to force out Palestinians from refugee camps its pretty clear to me in my opinion.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
8 weeks ago


"I'd go as far to say that netenyahu is using Hamas as an excuse to continue the persecution of Palestinians when you consider hamas don't control the occupied west bank and the fact Netanyahu and his cronies do nothing to stop the settler attacks on Palestinians yet continue to force out Palestinians from refugee camps its pretty clear to me in my opinion."

Yes the west bank situation too

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