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"are you familiar with ground news?" They're very down to earth | |||
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"Try X if you don’t already. It’s by far the fastest source of news and you get an entire world of sources so you can take your pick and get whatever balance you want. I’ve also found Telegram useful for getting a more balanced view of what’s actually happening in Ukraine, as you get a lot of foreign language sources (including Russian) which wouldn’t be given airtime on British TV. Otherwise there’s a lot of good podcasts, again take your pick. I haven’t really watched UK TV news for years. A lot of it is biased and very parochial." X is a Trump propaganda outlet owned by the Co-President, Elon Musk, and run by the right wing mob. I would not trust that to tell me the date. I don't know about the others. Al Jazeera can be interesting for alternative opinions but keep you BS filter turned up to 11. | |||
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"Try X if you don’t already. It’s by far the fastest source of news and you get an entire world of sources so you can take your pick and get whatever balance you want. I’ve also found Telegram useful for getting a more balanced view of what’s actually happening in Ukraine, as you get a lot of foreign language sources (including Russian) which wouldn’t be given airtime on British TV. Otherwise there’s a lot of good podcasts, again take your pick. I haven’t really watched UK TV news for years. A lot of it is biased and very parochial. X is a Trump propaganda outlet owned by the Co-President, Elon Musk, and run by the right wing mob. I would not trust that to tell me the date. I don't know about the others. Al Jazeera can be interesting for alternative opinions but keep you BS filter turned up to 11. " And agreed. Twitter has turned into a shit heap these last few years, but especially the last few months. Glad to see Bluesky taking off so well with the mass exodus. Was using twitter mostly to keep up with science news and communicating with people working in conservation or climate science, but things became so utterly toxic to be discussing those topics on that platform. | |||
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"No individual outlet will be free from bias or own agenda, your best bet is to read a range of outlets across the spectrum, research stories of interest and form your own views" Totally agree with this - the key though is that you also need to search for stuff you -actively- disagree with. That’s really hard because who wants to read stuff that you -know- is rubbish? In reality I don’t think anyone is actuallly capable of doing this properly. | |||
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"For best American political news. "Belle of the Ranch" on YouTube. 3 videos a day around 4 mins long, concise and no bullshit." I've seen her. She is good. YouTube is good for a variety of sources. Unbiased is harder though. After all, we're now in an age where debunking absolute horseshit with facts, is considered 'bias'. That's where we're trapped. "Alternative facts", as Kellyanne Conway famously said. | |||
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"For best American political news. "Belle of the Ranch" on YouTube. 3 videos a day around 4 mins long, concise and no bullshit. I've seen her. She is good. YouTube is good for a variety of sources. Unbiased is harder though. After all, we're now in an age where debunking absolute horseshit with facts, is considered 'bias'. That's where we're trapped. "Alternative facts", as Kellyanne Conway famously said." Very true. For world news, I like "PPR Global". | |||
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"The internet now is so misleading soon no one will know what to believe." Fake news !  | |||
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"Essex Tom "Had he left the site..i havent seen any posts from him for a while | |||
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"Any ideas? I tend to get mine from the BBC but that's not impartial, I only use bbc for lack of adverts. But it would be good to read the news without any political leaning involved or a particular agenda. Although I do also use Reuters." . Most news outlets will be impartial if you differentiate between the facts that they report and the opinions expressed by the various journalists. It is the opinions expressed that make the facts interesting. | |||
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Had he left the site..i havent seen any posts from him for a while"Yes he has left  | |||
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"Essex Tom
Had he left the site..i havent seen any posts from him for a while
Yes he has left "Ok thanks Its a shame,i thought he was quite funny | |||
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"Try X if you don’t already. It’s by far the fastest source of news and you get an entire world of sources so you can take your pick and get whatever balance you want. I’ve also found Telegram useful for getting a more balanced view of what’s actually happening in Ukraine, as you get a lot of foreign language sources (including Russian) which wouldn’t be given airtime on British TV. Otherwise there’s a lot of good podcasts, again take your pick. I haven’t really watched UK TV news for years. A lot of it is biased and very parochial. X is a Trump propaganda outlet owned by the Co-President, Elon Musk, and run by the right wing mob. I would not trust that to tell me the date. I don't know about the others. Al Jazeera can be interesting for alternative opinions but keep you BS filter turned up to 11. And agreed. Twitter has turned into a shit heap these last few years, but especially the last few months. Glad to see Bluesky taking off so well with the mass exodus. Was using twitter mostly to keep up with science news and communicating with people working in conservation or climate science, but things became so utterly toxic to be discussing those topics on that platform." what do you meen twitter has turned into a spithead,it always has been,I've always viewed it as a digital version of a public toilet wall | |||
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"Essex Tom
Had he left the site..i havent seen any posts from him for a while
Yes he has left
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Its a shame,i thought he was quite funny"Many people enjoyed his posts. | |||
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"Try X if you don’t already. It’s by far the fastest source of news and you get an entire world of sources so you can take your pick and get whatever balance you want. I’ve also found Telegram useful for getting a more balanced view of what’s actually happening in Ukraine, as you get a lot of foreign language sources (including Russian) which wouldn’t be given airtime on British TV. Otherwise there’s a lot of good podcasts, again take your pick. I haven’t really watched UK TV news for years. A lot of it is biased and very parochial. X is a Trump propaganda outlet owned by the Co-President, Elon Musk, and run by the right wing mob. I would not trust that to tell me the date. I don't know about the others. Al Jazeera can be interesting for alternative opinions but keep you BS filter turned up to 11. And agreed. Twitter has turned into a shit heap these last few years, but especially the last few months. Glad to see Bluesky taking off so well with the mass exodus. Was using twitter mostly to keep up with science news and communicating with people working in conservation or climate science, but things became so utterly toxic to be discussing those topics on that platform.what do you meen twitter has turned into a spithead,it always has been,I've always viewed it as a digital version of a public toilet wall" For the most part yes, but actually had been decent enough keeping up with science news and even discussing things with various researchers in many fields directly instead of just reading about things through media, as they were often sharing links to what they were working on or others that they were communicating with. Even with short messages, you could have great in-depth conversations or follow those discussions by others. That said, that part had gotten worse and worse over the last few years and just dreadful now, with many of the posts (especially when it comes to over politicised fields like climate science) being greeted with dozens of replies from morons that slept through science class dismissing the work simply because of their own political ideology and echo chambers they exist in. When you're aware how many of these researchers are struggling with despair and trying to retain hope that humanity can come through and deal with these existential risks, it's no wonder they jumped ship. Hard to retain that hope with the number of proud willfully ignorant idiots there that can't see beyond politics. | |||
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"are you familiar with ground news?" Came here to suggest this. I’ve been looking in to this lately. It’s a very different take on news. It polls other news sources, gives a gauge of the bias of that source and compares other coverage of the same subject. | |||
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"There was one called "positive news". It even had a printed newspaper version years ago. I think they are still going. Was/is a refreshing take instead of the modern doom-scrolling inclination. " Still going | |||
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"Any ideas? I tend to get mine from the BBC but that's not impartial, I only use bbc for lack of adverts. But it would be good to read the news without any political leaning involved or a particular agenda. Although I do also use Reuters." I like Channel 4 News. It's also fascinating to read the raw news from Reuters, as you say, or AP in my case, and see the bias/political slant the MSM injects to satisfy their readerships. I read all the UK front pages courtesy of BBC News website. Not really into fringe newsfeeds or X etc. as their prime function is to make money for their owners which often means inventing or slanting "facts". I like to think C4 News doesn't have this pressure, and is far less in the political spotlight than BBC News. | |||
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"Actually… now I watch of global tv to see how other countries see the same events and how it’s done is fascinating For example CBC , the Canadian version of the BBC, do I think a brilliant job at covering North America… Al Jazeera English, for all their faults, gives you a different look at subjects concerning the Middle East, than you would get anywhere else The BBC and Sky News do a good job at actually covering and reporting news as such, and it’s the envy of the world…. There is a good reason why when sky news was owned by fox and murdoch , they didn’t want it on us stations going up against Fox News! There is a good reason now that now sky news is owned by Comcast, NBC News in a lot of world defer to sky news reporting (on NBC’s 24 hr news channel, if there isn’t a news program scheduled.. for example the middle of the night.. it just switches to a sky news uk feed!) it’s just the domestic political stuff that people find divisive (I don’t watch the Sunday morning political shows for those reasons)" Sky News used to be a useful antidote to the BBC but now it’s just become another Blob propaganda outlet spewing out the same rubbish as the BBC. And its viewership has declined accordingly. It regularly gets fewer viewers than GB News, which is remarkable given their respective budgets and how long they have been around. Things went wrong for Sky News (and Sky) when Comcast acquired it. Now I see Sky News is laying off staff, shifting operations online (like Talk) and there are even doubts about whether Comcast want to keep funding it. It’s similar to what’s happening in the US where the network news audiences have collapsed and they are now culling staff. They’ve spent years pushing propaganda at people and their audience has just switched off. People want objective news available to them on demand and from a variety of sources so they can develop their own judgement, and that’s much more available on social media, podcasts, YouTube etc. As for the BBC and Sky being the “envy of the world”. Maybe they love watching the BBC at Hamas meetings, but I’m doubtful whether anyone else much cares. | |||
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"...People want objective news available to them on demand and from a variety of sources so they can develop their own judgement, and that’s much more available on social media, podcasts, YouTube etc... " Nope. People want to hear their own beliefs and worldview reinforced. Most people do not want to be challenged, although most of these "most people" would never admit that, especially to themselves. | |||
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"...People want objective news available to them on demand and from a variety of sources so they can develop their own judgement, and that’s much more available on social media, podcasts, YouTube etc... Nope. People want to hear their own beliefs and worldview reinforced. Most people do not want to be challenged, although most of these "most people" would never admit that, especially to themselves." Agreed. Our own worldview distorts how we perceive reality as well as influences what sources we use, and we're all susceptible to confirmation bias and getting immersed in reaffirming echochambers. Need to be totally aware of that to truly be skeptical. | |||
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 going off on one and Jacob reece-mogg clips of him basically bragging about his mansion , wealth (again) and being lazy while in parliament and slouching in his seat and being paid by our taxes.
Farage is much better s presenter though don't agree with some topics he brings up
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